JerseyBills Posted February 4, 2021 Share Posted February 4, 2021 (edited) I seen the banter on here about KC being too chippy. Then I go on Twitter tonight and I see 3 videos by Bills fans saying they won't root for KC because of these plays! A trip to the SUPERBOWL was on the line. I'd expect the game to get a bit chippy. I'm just tired of the whining. This is football. If the shoe was on the other foot and our guys on D are feeling confident enough to act like that, I'd be thrilled and would have spent last week researching tickets to a Bills SB game. They were better and more physical and deserved the W. I'm tired of Bills fans whining about these type of plays! Edit - Only dirty play i saw was Jones punching Mongo. I would've loved to see our D slam Hill and hit Mahomes like that. Fair play to them, our Bills will get revenge next year. Edited February 4, 2021 by JerseyBills 4 2 7 3 3 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
machine gun kelly Posted February 4, 2021 Share Posted February 4, 2021 The problem was the refs. I’m not one to blame the refs for everything as they have such a difficult job, but they let things go too long. It’s not an excusable argument to say, let them play. You start ejecting guys and all of this stuff calms down. Because after the game, they would get large fines as well. Our three guys were fined, but there should have been more. Ill agree with you they were the better team that day, but it’s up to the refs to get rid of players who are out of hand. Their players were wrong and so was ours. The last part of ownership is the coaches. Both Reid’s and McD’s staff. No one was right for these situations. Im not rooting for any team and I live now in Tampa. I just want a fun, entertaining game that hopefully comes down to the last play. 2 5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sweats Posted February 4, 2021 Share Posted February 4, 2021 We lost....can we just let it go already 6 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
machine gun kelly Posted February 4, 2021 Share Posted February 4, 2021 No, we need 150 more threads diagnosing every last second of every loss. Wouldn’t that be fun? 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOUSE Posted February 4, 2021 Share Posted February 4, 2021 I see no banter.. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gobills404 Posted February 4, 2021 Share Posted February 4, 2021 There's a fine line between between chippy/physical and dirty, and the chiefs crossed that line multiple times. I hope the Bucs wipe the floor with them. 9 1 5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just Jack Posted February 4, 2021 Share Posted February 4, 2021 22 minutes ago, machine gun kelly said: No, we need 150 more threads diagnosing every last second of every loss. Wouldn’t that be fun? I've been researching what happened at 8:37 of the 2nd quarter and once I'm finished with my 30 page analysis of it, I'll post why that was the one and only true turning point of the game. Once I'm done with that, I'll start on 8:36 of the second quarter and why that was the one and only true turning point of the game. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted February 4, 2021 Share Posted February 4, 2021 people are entitled to their opinions. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PrimeTime101 Posted February 4, 2021 Share Posted February 4, 2021 3 hours ago, JerseyBills said: I seen the banter on here about KC being too chippy. Then I go on Twitter tonight and I see 3 videos by Bills fans saying they won't root for KC because of these plays! A trip to the SUPERBOWL was on the line. I'd expect the game to get a bit chippy. I'm just tired of the whining. This is football. If the shoe was on the other foot and our guys on D are feeling confident enough to act like that, I'd be thrilled and would have spent last week researching tickets to a Bills SB game. They were better and more physical and deserved the W. I'm tired of Bills fans whining about these type of plays! I'm tired about the whiners complaining about the whining .... 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
machine gun kelly Posted February 4, 2021 Share Posted February 4, 2021 41 minutes ago, Just Jack said: I've been researching what happened at 8:37 of the 2nd quarter and once I'm finished with my 30 page analysis of it, I'll post why that was the one and only true turning point of the game. Once I'm done with that, I'll start on 8:36 of the second quarter and why that was the one and only true turning point of the game. Jack, do me a favor and go minute by minute and start a new thread for every minute. That would be awesome. I can’t wait fir the next thread at 8:37 pm. 🤣🤪🤪 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SirAndrew Posted February 4, 2021 Share Posted February 4, 2021 (edited) I agree, fans are entitled to feel however they want about KC, but Bills fans who are using it as a reason to root for the Bucs confuse me. We’re mad the Chiefs played a classless game, so let’s root for Brady and Gronk. Seems to make a ton of sense 😂 Edited February 4, 2021 by SirAndrew Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnNord Posted February 4, 2021 Share Posted February 4, 2021 I won’t root for Kansas City because I want them to lose....and because their fans have become arrogant as shizznit. It’s getting to Patriot-like levels, where you want to see a team lose so their fans can get knocked down a peg. With that being said, I didn’t think KC was playing that dirty. The toss of Diggs was a dirty plan and was rightfully flagged. Either way... Go Buccaneers! Let’s go Brady 3 minutes ago, SirAndrew said: I agree, fans are entitled to feel however they want about KC, but Bills fans who are using it as a reason to root for the Bucs confuse me. We’re mad the Chiefs played a classless game, so let’s root for Brady and Gronk. Seems to make a ton of sense 😂 Why is it confusing? Fans don’t want to see the team that just beat them down win the Super Bowl. It seems pretty natural to me 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted February 4, 2021 Share Posted February 4, 2021 5 minutes ago, SirAndrew said: I agree, fans are entitled to feel however they want about KC, but Bills fans who are using it as a reason to root for the Bucs confuse me. We’re mad the Chiefs played a classless game, so let’s root for Brady and Gronk. Seems to make a ton of sense 😂 I'm not rooting for either team. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SirAndrew Posted February 4, 2021 Share Posted February 4, 2021 12 minutes ago, JohnNord said: I won’t root for Kansas City because I want them to lose....and because their fans have become arrogant as shizznit. It’s getting to Patriot-like levels, where you want to see a team lose so their fans can get knocked down a peg. With that being said, I didn’t think KC was playing that dirty. The toss of Diggs was a dirty plan and was rightfully flagged. Either way... Go Buccaneers! Let’s go Brady Why is it confusing? Fans don’t want to see the team that just beat them down win the Super Bowl. It seems pretty natural to me I understand that perspective, but I don’t think KC losing the Super Bowl would make me feel better about the loss, although I can see how some people would see it that way. What I find confusing is rooting against KC because the way acted during the game. I’m good with not rooting for either team, but if you’re mad at KC for being classless, how do you root for the team with Gronk ? The same Gronk who jumped on Tre White’s neck in a far more egregious play than anything KC did. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmur66 Posted February 4, 2021 Share Posted February 4, 2021 (edited) Chippy? Who you calling chippy? Edited February 4, 2021 by bmur66 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JMF2006 Posted February 4, 2021 Share Posted February 4, 2021 1 hour ago, machine gun kelly said: No, we need 150 more threads diagnosing every last second of every loss. Wouldn’t that be fun? Well that would be 600 new threads so at 2 a day it pretty well takes us back to next year and we can start again Fitting that Ground Hog day was Tuesday 17 minutes ago, SlimShady'sSpaceForce said: I'm not rooting for either team. I am hoping for a tie........could you imagine 12 hours of overtime 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JMF2006 Posted February 4, 2021 Share Posted February 4, 2021 I think I have changed my mind....I wanted KC because I thought it would legitimize the Bills loss. But on second thought Mahomee winning again would start his legacy add nauseum. Brady has 6 rings and is considered the Goat already so what if he adds #7 it wouldn't change things much at this point. So I am going to jinx the Bucs by cheering for them 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted February 4, 2021 Share Posted February 4, 2021 12 minutes ago, SirAndrew said: I understand that perspective, but I don’t think KC losing the Super Bowl would make me feel better about the loss, although I can see how some people would see it that way. What I find confusing is rooting against KC because the way acted during the game. I’m good with not rooting for either team, but if you’re mad at KC for being classless, how do you root for the team with Gronk ? The same Gronk who jumped on Tre White’s neck in a far more egregious play than anything KC did. Excellent point. How does the OP feel about Gronk being a neanderthal for dropping onto Tre' already on the turf? 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JMF2006 Posted February 4, 2021 Share Posted February 4, 2021 1 minute ago, SlimShady'sSpaceForce said: Excellent point. How does the OP feel about Gronk being a neanderthal for dropping onto Tre' already on the turf? Maybe Sorensen cheap shots Gronk 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted February 4, 2021 Share Posted February 4, 2021 1 minute ago, JMF2006 said: Maybe Sorensen cheap shots Gronk Gronk - Me no likey, grunt and a swing. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BreezeMafia Posted February 4, 2021 Share Posted February 4, 2021 Maybe KC was chippy on purpose and felt it would get the Bills a bit off their game. Case in point - when Diggs was lifted then slammed in the first or second quarter. Seemed a bit off after that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnNord Posted February 4, 2021 Share Posted February 4, 2021 1 hour ago, SirAndrew said: I understand that perspective, but I don’t think KC losing the Super Bowl would make me feel better about the loss, although I can see how some people would see it that way. What I find confusing is rooting against KC because the way acted during the game. I’m good with not rooting for either team, but if you’re mad at KC for being classless, how do you root for the team with Gronk ? The same Gronk who jumped on Tre White’s neck in a far more egregious play than anything KC did. Everyone is different. Many NFL players don’t want to see that beat them with the championship. Like I said, it’s common. To your point, I highly doubt the reason fans won’t support KC is because they felt they were dirty. They just don’t want to see them win - I don’t either! And your point about Gronk - want that like 4 years ago? Who cares? If Bills players can forgive Gronk for something stupid then why shouldn’t fans? The way I see it, some fans see a KC win as the lesser of two evils due to their hate of New England. They can stand the fact that Bills fans want to cheer for Tom Brady. Personally, I could care less. I’m hoping Brady wins his 7th ring Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCal Deek Posted February 4, 2021 Share Posted February 4, 2021 The Chiefs played a far more aggressive style of football that day. I believe it was intentional, but that doesn’t guarantee you a win, and in fact it can backfire on you if you get too caught up in it. In the end, they were the better team that day. Is ANYONE debating that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted February 4, 2021 Share Posted February 4, 2021 I’ll be rooting for the chiefs because I believe they’ll cover -3.5 Just worried that the Bucs will be smart and employ a good amount of 2 TE sets and force the chiefs out of their comfort zone, 2-3 LB sets Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patrick Duffy Posted February 4, 2021 Share Posted February 4, 2021 Just now, NewEra said: I’ll be rooting for the chiefs because I believe they’ll cover -3.5 Just worried that the Bucs will be smart and employ a good amount of 2 TE sets and force the chiefs out of their comfort zone, 2-3 LB sets Something I wish the Bills were able to do. Anywho, hopefully that's one of the issues that gets resolved. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted February 4, 2021 Share Posted February 4, 2021 2 hours ago, machine gun kelly said: Jack, do me a favor and go minute by minute and start a new thread for every minute. That would be awesome. I can’t wait fir the next thread at 8:37 pm. 🤣🤪🤪 When folks have tried such on, it hasn't ended well. Just sayin' 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Southern_Bills Posted February 4, 2021 Share Posted February 4, 2021 7 minutes ago, SoCal Deek said: The Chiefs played a far more aggressive style of football that day. I believe it was intentional, but that doesn’t guarantee you a win, and in fact it can backfire on you if you get too caught up in it. In the end, they were the better team that day. Is ANYONE debating that? Not at all. KC wins that game 8/10 times easy. Do I think KC got by with more than Buffalo? Yeah I do. Wouldn't have changed the outcome of the game though. Bucs-Packers was the hose job with the PI to end the game. They let both teams club each other all game then changed course on an uncatchable ball to end it. Packers have a gripe. Buffalo wasn't good enough on that day regardless of how the refs called it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sammy Watkins' Rib Posted February 4, 2021 Share Posted February 4, 2021 3 hours ago, Sweats said: We lost....can we just let it go already And given the talent on this team we will have at least a couple more AFCCG losses in the coming 10 years. Hopefully a couple wins too but yes, we will need to learn to accept the losses. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCal Deek Posted February 4, 2021 Share Posted February 4, 2021 5 minutes ago, Southern_Bills said: Not at all. KC wins that game 8/10 times easy. Do I think KC got by with more than Buffalo? Yeah I do. Wouldn't have changed the outcome of the game though. Bucs-Packers was the hose job with the PI to end the game. They let both teams club each other all game then changed course on an uncatchable ball to end it. Packers have a gripe. Buffalo wasn't good enough on that day regardless of how the refs called it. That’s where we differ. The refs called the penalty against the guy for body slamming Diggs but the other chippy stuff is part of football. As I said, the aggressive style can also backfire on a team if they get too caught up in it and fail to make actual plays. But in the case of the Chiefs they were able to make more plays AND do the chippy stuff in between plays...which is pretty incredible really. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eastport bills Posted February 4, 2021 Share Posted February 4, 2021 It was chippy because as the game became one sided , KCs defense started hitting Josh after his throws and after the whistle. The altercation with Monzo and Dawkins and #57 was in response to these hits. KC was not the classiest of winners. Sorry. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Southern_Bills Posted February 4, 2021 Share Posted February 4, 2021 2 minutes ago, SoCal Deek said: That’s where we differ. The refs called the penalty against the guy for body slamming Diggs but the other chippy stuff is part of football. As I said, the aggressive style can also backfire on a team if they get too caught up in it and fail to make actual plays. But in the case of the Chiefs they were able to make more plays AND do the chippy stuff in between plays...which is pretty incredible really. I get it, I like physicality as well. When they are jumping on our OL after the play, hitting the QB after the play it is football. Just not clean football, it's not KCs fault, the refs start to call it and they knock it off. The refs didn't so they continued to do it. The right thing to do for Buffalo was start doing the same and force the refs hand at doing something. Sadly they didnt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCal Deek Posted February 4, 2021 Share Posted February 4, 2021 2 minutes ago, Southern_Bills said: I get it, I like physicality as well. When they are jumping on our OL after the play, hitting the QB after the play it is football. Just not clean football, it's not KCs fault, the refs start to call it and they knock it off. The refs didn't so they continued to do it. The right thing to do for Buffalo was start doing the same and force the refs hand at doing something. Sadly they didnt. Bingo! It’s also up to our head coach to say something. I’m not sure that he did. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted February 4, 2021 Share Posted February 4, 2021 Dude, we're down to discussing Cole Beasley's Pineapple on Pizza ad and Josh Allen's Coldstone Creamery treats and upcoming Fortnight tournament as competition for second-guessing and psychoanalyzing our last game. If you want different or better football content from fans here, the way to achieve that is.....wait for it....help to provide it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCal Deek Posted February 4, 2021 Share Posted February 4, 2021 21 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: Dude, we're down to discussing Cole Beasley's Pineapple on Pizza ad and Josh Allen's Coldstone Creamery treats and upcoming Fortnight tournament as competition for second-guessing and psychoanalyzing our last game. If you want different or better football content from fans here, the way to achieve that is.....wait for it....help to provide it. It’s a long offseason Hapless. I’m just happy this offseason was three weeks shorter than we’ve become accustomed to. Go Bills 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DabillsDaBillsDaBills Posted February 4, 2021 Share Posted February 4, 2021 39 minutes ago, SoCal Deek said: That’s where we differ. The refs called the penalty against the guy for body slamming Diggs but the other chippy stuff is part of football. As I said, the aggressive style can also backfire on a team if they get too caught up in it and fail to make actual plays. But in the case of the Chiefs they were able to make more plays AND do the chippy stuff in between plays...which is pretty incredible really. I'm not seeing how throwing a punch at a guys head after the whistle is a "part of football". Jones absolutely should've been ejected and I think that would've really reigned in a lot of the chippiness. Props to the Chiefs for altering how they played to take advantage of the unofficial playoff rulebook, where defensive holding is only called if it's obviously blatant, and dirty/late hits are just "playing physical" 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SirAndrew Posted February 4, 2021 Share Posted February 4, 2021 1 hour ago, JohnNord said: Everyone is different. Many NFL players don’t want to see that beat them with the championship. Like I said, it’s common. To your point, I highly doubt the reason fans won’t support KC is because they felt they were dirty. They just don’t want to see them win - I don’t either! And your point about Gronk - want that like 4 years ago? Who cares? If Bills players can forgive Gronk for something stupid then why shouldn’t fans? The way I see it, some fans see a KC win as the lesser of two evils due to their hate of New England. They can stand the fact that Bills fans want to cheer for Tom Brady. Personally, I could care less. I’m hoping Brady wins his 7th ring I don’t care much about Gronk either, I’m just making the point that some fans are rooting against KC because of dirty plays. Brady is a cheat and Gronk committed one of the dirtiest plays I’ve ever seen, so I didn’t understand how some Bills fans are all about the Bucs suddenly. To each their own, I just find some of the Brady love around here kind of gross. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patrick Duffy Posted February 4, 2021 Share Posted February 4, 2021 (edited) 23 minutes ago, DabillsDaBillsDaBills said: I'm not seeing how throwing a punch at a guys head after the whistle is a "part of football". Jones absolutely should've been ejected and I think that would've really reigned in a lot of the chippiness. Props to the Chiefs for altering how they played to take advantage of the unofficial playoff rulebook, where defensive holding is only called if it's obviously blatant, and dirty/late hits are just "playing physical" Exactly. I was livid when that happened. I bet that if he returned a punch in the same exact manner, Bills would have been flagged. The saying is, the 2nd player always gets caught. Issue in this particular incident is the officials saw Jones throw the 1st punch and did nothing. I recall reading somewhere the ref went to Chiefs side line and just said something along the lines of, " calm it down, or don't let it happen again", Something to that extent. Edited February 4, 2021 by Patrick_Duffy 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HereComesTheReignAgain Posted February 4, 2021 Share Posted February 4, 2021 (edited) I won't root for either team. I dislike both teams and their fans. I hope my numbers hit and I end up with more money than I started with at the beginning of the game. I also want to see both QBs get hit repeatedly after the whistle. Mahomes because that is how the Chiefs play and they deserve a little karma, and Brady because he is a giant douche. 7 minutes ago, Patrick_Duffy said: Exactly. I was livid when that happened. I bet that if he returned a punch in the same exact manner, Bills would have been flagged. The saying is, the 2nd player always gets caught. Issue in this particular incident is the officials saw Jones throw the 1st punch and did nothing. I recall reading somewhere the ref went to Chiefs side line and just said something along the lines of, " calm it down, or don't let it happen again", Something to that extent. If the refs would have called a penalty on that play, they would have to eject Jones for throwing a punch. They were not about to kick out one of the Chiefs best players at that time in the game. It was BS and Jones should have watched the rest of the game from the locker room. Edited February 4, 2021 by chknwing334 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Call_Of_Ktulu Posted February 4, 2021 Share Posted February 4, 2021 So you think Diggs getting suplexed and Mongo punched in the helmet is chippy? The late hit on Allen when the game was out of reach? That to me is not chippy, it’s the officials making the game into a complete ***** show. It would be like if the NBA called fouls for barely touching someone in the regular season like they do now but then in the playoffs went back to allowing Jordan era fouls of elbows to the face and kidney punches. The transition from the regular season to the playoffs should not change that much. 1 hour ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: Dude, we're down to discussing Cole Beasley's Pineapple on Pizza ad and Josh Allen's Coldstone Creamery treats and upcoming Fortnight tournament as competition for second-guessing and psychoanalyzing our last game. If you want different or better football content from fans here, the way to achieve that is.....wait for it....help to provide it. Can you send me a link to that Fortnight tourney. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gjv001 Posted February 4, 2021 Share Posted February 4, 2021 I got the impression that our Oline was intimidated by KC's Dline. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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