BillsMafi$ Posted November 16, 2020 Share Posted November 16, 2020 All charges were dropped. Get it done Beane 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rc2catch Posted November 16, 2020 Share Posted November 16, 2020 Hahahahaha that’s your missing piece player huh 😂😂😂😂😂 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OrtonHearsaWho Posted November 16, 2020 Share Posted November 16, 2020 He was still found guilty of being a terrible cornerback. 5 14 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kwai San Posted November 16, 2020 Share Posted November 16, 2020 No Thanks.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoPoy88 Posted November 16, 2020 Share Posted November 16, 2020 Is he any good? Crazy about that criminal case though. Lot of effort put in to set these guys up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aristocrat Posted November 16, 2020 Share Posted November 16, 2020 not the worst idea. guy was a first round talent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BullBuchanan Posted November 16, 2020 Share Posted November 16, 2020 2 minutes ago, aristocrat said: not the worst idea. guy was a first round talent. So was JaMarcus Russell 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aristocrat Posted November 16, 2020 Share Posted November 16, 2020 2 minutes ago, BullBuchanan said: So was JaMarcus Russell so was tre white 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Call_Of_Ktulu Posted November 16, 2020 Share Posted November 16, 2020 16 minutes ago, OrtonHearsaWho said: He was still found guilty of being a terrible cornerback. I agree, he is a below average CB and would've been Nuked 5 times to Whites 2. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted November 16, 2020 Share Posted November 16, 2020 1 minute ago, aristocrat said: so was tre white So was Sebastian Janikowski....I still can't believe that! 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rigotz Posted November 16, 2020 Share Posted November 16, 2020 (edited) 47 minutes ago, OrtonHearsaWho said: He was still found guilty of being a terrible cornerback. He was a first round pick ... drafted in the 2019 draft. Thank god you guys aren't GM. Edited November 16, 2020 by Rigotz 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OrtonHearsaWho Posted November 16, 2020 Share Posted November 16, 2020 1 minute ago, Rigotz said: He was a first round pick who only played his rookie season last year. Thank god you guys aren't GM. He was ranked 115th out of 116 eligible CBs by PFF. Just because a guy was drafted in the 1st round doesn't mean he isn't immune to being terrible. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rigotz Posted November 16, 2020 Share Posted November 16, 2020 (edited) 2 minutes ago, OrtonHearsaWho said: He was ranked 115th out of 116 eligible CBs by PFF. Just because a guy was drafted in the 1st round doesn't mean he isn't immune to being terrible. He's a rookie. You don't want a free first round pick rookie because he had a bad start to his first season? Yikes. If you said something about his personality issues (and there are several) then I would have said sure... makes sense... but saying he is "terrible" is just ridiculous. Edited November 16, 2020 by Rigotz 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFanThru-N-Thru Posted November 16, 2020 Share Posted November 16, 2020 (edited) 20 minutes ago, OrtonHearsaWho said: He was ranked 115th out of 116 eligible CBs by PFF. Just because a guy was drafted in the 1st round doesn't mean he isn't immune to being terrible. He struggled mightily in the beginning of his rookie season, but since you reference PFF you might have missed this then .... PFF NY Giants @PFF_Giants Dec 18, 2019 Since the Giants bye week, DeAndre Baker has the 6th best coverage grade among all qualified CB’s over the last 4 games. In this same time period, QB’s targeting Baker are completing just 26.3% of their passes, the lowest percentage targeting any CB So he was starting to turn it around Edited November 16, 2020 by BillsFanThru-N-Thru 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
947 Posted November 16, 2020 Share Posted November 16, 2020 He was benched in his rookie season for playing with a lack of effort, the final straw play was him casually jogging after a WR en route to a 47 yard TD. Even though he was cleared of the armed robbery charges, he clearly was surrounding himself with the type of people who get caught up in that sort of thing, and that's another huge red flag. I haven't seen him play, but based on his 40-time (4.57) & still being drafted in the first round, I have to assume he's a zone CB, I wouldn't mind Beane & Co taking a look & seeing if he's matured & has anything. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shaw66 Posted November 16, 2020 Share Posted November 16, 2020 Can he play defensive tackle? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ogham26 Posted November 16, 2020 Share Posted November 16, 2020 id rather just see more of dane jackson. although not sure how bad that injury was. easily may have been a torn ACL 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted November 16, 2020 Share Posted November 16, 2020 Just name Dane Jackson the starter. 5 minutes ago, ogham26 said: id rather just see more of dane jackson. although not sure how bad that injury was. easily may have been a torn ACL He came back in the game, so not a torn ACL, was also on the Bike after the injury 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ogham26 Posted November 16, 2020 Share Posted November 16, 2020 3 minutes ago, MAJBobby said: Just name Dane Jackson the starter. He came back in the game, so not a torn ACL, was also on the Bike after the injury ah okay great i didnt notice him come back in. i saw him on the bike you can do that after tearing an acl so i still wasnt sure at that point the extent of the damage. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted November 16, 2020 Share Posted November 16, 2020 1 minute ago, ogham26 said: ah okay great i didnt notice him come back in. i saw him on the bike you can do that after tearing an acl so i still wasnt sure at that point the extent of the damage. Well they are not putting him on the Bike with a positive torn ACL test, they are going to the locker room. He is fine Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
947 Posted November 16, 2020 Share Posted November 16, 2020 Dane Jackson really impressed me yesterday, I'd have no problem with him being the CB2 the rest of the way. He's solid in coverage, and a very willing & fundamentally-sound tackler. When I saw the close-up of the injury, it looked like he just got cleated. Hopefully that's all it is. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TUBSTER Posted November 16, 2020 Share Posted November 16, 2020 Dane Jackson played very well yesterday up until the injury. Not to mention our actual CB2, back up safety, and Allens favorite TE were out because a player who's done nothing this year got Covid. If we're going to sign anyone I'd like to see if Alexander would be interested in coming back for the playoff run. A familiar face who's a leader might just be what this defense needs, even if it's in limited playing time. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gobills404 Posted November 16, 2020 Share Posted November 16, 2020 Sports Illustrated - Why DeAndre Baker is One of the Giants Most Improved Rookies from 2019 Quote The 22-year-old defensive back looked like a completely different player when the Giants returned to action in Week 12, and he more than held his own for the remainder of the season. Baker was one of the best corners in football down the stretch, per Pro Football Focus (PFF), and he saw a massive improvement in coverage. The table below illustrates Baker’s performance on a per-game basis when targeted, as well as his overall snap count per contest over New York’s final six games of the season. Baker’s post-bye passer rating allowed is admittedly a little high, but his 48.5 completion percentage allowed is on-par with some of the league’s elite corners. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sherlock Holmes Posted November 16, 2020 Share Posted November 16, 2020 Maybe he would've robbed Nuke of the ball Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TigerJ Posted November 16, 2020 Share Posted November 16, 2020 2 hours ago, ogham26 said: id rather just see more of dane jackson. although not sure how bad that injury was. easily may have been a torn ACL I doubt that. I think trainers can tell an ACL pretty quickly by manipulating the knee. He was on a stationary bike. I can't imagine they'd have him on that if there were any chance of an ACL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted November 16, 2020 Share Posted November 16, 2020 6 hours ago, Royale with Cheese said: So was Sebastian Janikowski....I still can't believe that! #10 all-time NFL scoring. A great pick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Generic_Bills_Fan Posted November 16, 2020 Share Posted November 16, 2020 I like the 'sign jordan Howard and steal the dolphins playbook' idea a lot better 🤣 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOUSE Posted November 16, 2020 Share Posted November 16, 2020 Can he jump really high and knock down passes ? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Putin Posted November 16, 2020 Share Posted November 16, 2020 5 hours ago, Shaw66 said: Can he play defensive tackle? Thank God “can he play QB” are done with !!! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Do The Reich Thing Posted November 16, 2020 Share Posted November 16, 2020 I’d be okay for practice squading him. If he proves himself cut Norman for him. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Junction Posted November 17, 2020 Share Posted November 17, 2020 9 hours ago, Royale with Cheese said: So was Sebastian Janikowski....I still can't believe that! In hindsight the Janikowski pick wasn’t as bad many others. At the very least he solidified their kicker spot for almost two decades. That first year was brutal though. IIRC he only connected on around 70% of his kicks that year and the fans wanted Al Davis to stop making picks. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted November 17, 2020 Share Posted November 17, 2020 4 hours ago, Mr. WEO said: #10 all-time NFL scoring. A great pick. Lol....605 of his total points are on extra points. Back in his day, it was a 20 yard chip shot. I’m sorry if I don’t believe that is worth the 17th overall pick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted November 17, 2020 Share Posted November 17, 2020 13 minutes ago, Royale with Cheese said: Lol....605 of his total points are on extra points. Back in his day, it was a 20 yard chip shot. I’m sorry if I don’t believe that is worth the 17th overall pick. Look at that draft. He was one of 12 ProBowlers in the first 17 picks from that 1st round. The rest of the round would yield only 2 more. They had just signed Wheatley then year before so they weren't taking Alexander. Maybe they should have taken Pennington? Anthony Becht? Stocker McDougal? Wait, I know.....Erik Flowers?? He missed 9 PATs in 19 years (98.5%). His career FG is over 80%--which he maintained to the end. Over 1300 points from FGs. If I told you beforehand (let alone in hindsight) that a first round pick would be a ProBowler and be on your roster for 18 years and end up as a top 10 at his position all time, you would pass on that guy....because he's a kicker? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thriftygamer83 Posted November 17, 2020 Share Posted November 17, 2020 (edited) The Bills are not a team of second chances they let other more established franchises do those like New England, Pittsburgh, Indy, Las Vegas, and others. It's a world of frat connections for that. Edited November 17, 2020 by Thriftygamer83 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punching Bag Posted November 17, 2020 Share Posted November 17, 2020 13 hours ago, BillsMafi$ said: All charges were dropped. Get it done Beane Are you sure you want the Bills to win? You do not seem to be a good representative of Buffalo or Bills Mafia. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYGPopgun10 Posted November 17, 2020 Share Posted November 17, 2020 Lmao 🤣 funniest post ever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted November 17, 2020 Share Posted November 17, 2020 7 hours ago, Mr. WEO said: Look at that draft. He was one of 12 ProBowlers in the first 17 picks from that 1st round. The rest of the round would yield only 2 more. They had just signed Wheatley then year before so they weren't taking Alexander. Maybe they should have taken Pennington? Anthony Becht? Stocker McDougal? Wait, I know.....Erik Flowers?? He missed 9 PATs in 19 years (98.5%). His career FG is over 80%--which he maintained to the end. Over 1300 points from FGs. If I told you beforehand (let alone in hindsight) that a first round pick would be a ProBowler and be on your roster for 18 years and end up as a top 10 at his position all time, you would pass on that guy....because he's a kicker? Yep. I’m not drafting a kicker in the first round. I like how you conveniently left out 3 time All Pro Keith Bulluck. You can have your All Pro kicker, I’ll take an All Pro Linebacker. Or better yet, take the All Pro linebacker in the first round and get your kicker later like the rest of the NFL. Its such a good idea to draft a kicker in the first round that its only been done twice in the Super Bowl era. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted November 17, 2020 Share Posted November 17, 2020 24 minutes ago, Royale with Cheese said: Yep. I’m not drafting a kicker in the first round. I like how you conveniently left out 3 time All Pro Keith Bulluck. You can have your All Pro kicker, I’ll take an All Pro Linebacker. Or better yet, take the All Pro linebacker in the first round and get your kicker later like the rest of the NFL. Its such a good idea to draft a kicker in the first round that its only been done twice in the Super Bowl era. He was one of the 2 other ProBowlers I referred to. Despite not drafting a one time All Pro LB and drafting a Kicker instead, the Raiders were in the SB 2 years later. The year before they drafted Bullock, the Titans were in the SB for the final time in their history to this point. Their D was top 5 twice in Bullocks career, bottom 5 4 times. Good player, not much impact for that franchise. It is done rarely, but in this case...it obviously paid off. You cannot make any argument other than that was a massive success of a 1st round pick, by any measure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted November 17, 2020 Share Posted November 17, 2020 15 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said: He was one of the 2 other ProBowlers I referred to. Despite not drafting a one time All Pro LB and drafting a Kicker instead, the Raiders were in the SB 2 years later. The year before they drafted Bullock, the Titans were in the SB for the final time in their history to this point. Their D was top 5 twice in Bullocks career, bottom 5 4 times. Good player, not much impact for that franchise. It is done rarely, but in this case...it obviously paid off. You cannot make any argument other than that was a massive success of a 1st round pick, by any measure. Lol....now you’re bringing up Super Bowls? Im pretty sure it didn’t matter who their kicker was when Rich Gannon was the MVP of the league and the Raiders had 5 All Pros. But I guess those extra points though. What about the 15 other seasons without playoffs with that 1st round kicker? Yes you can make the argument a kicker is not worth a first round grade. Your argument is because he was top ten in scoring. Well guess what, the top 37 scorers in NFL history are kickers. If points are your argument, which it is, kickers should be drafted in the first all the time lol. BTW, Jerry Rice is the first position player outside of a kicker to make the top scoring list....at #38. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted November 17, 2020 Share Posted November 17, 2020 1 hour ago, Royale with Cheese said: Lol....now you’re bringing up Super Bowls? Im pretty sure it didn’t matter who their kicker was when Rich Gannon was the MVP of the league and the Raiders had 5 All Pros. But I guess those extra points though. What about the 15 other seasons without playoffs with that 1st round kicker? Yes you can make the argument a kicker is not worth a first round grade. Your argument is because he was top ten in scoring. Well guess what, the top 37 scorers in NFL history are kickers. If points are your argument, which it is, kickers should be drafted in the first all the time lol. BTW, Jerry Rice is the first position player outside of a kicker to make the top scoring list....at #38. Correct. Also correct is that the Raiders were a SB caliber team soon after they passed on Bullock. Adding a kicker didn't make them a SB contender. They didn't need Bullock. But this discussion is about value. Janikowski brought far more value as a 1st round pick than Bullock would have for the Raiders. It's pretty clear for the reasons already lsited. He was a rock solid producer for almost 2 decades (over any replacement in that first round especially). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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