BuffaloButt Posted October 14, 2020 Share Posted October 14, 2020 Before the season started, if you were told the Bills would be 5-2 and up next is New England wouldn't you be looking at the team in a positive light? Tough schedule and we knew we're going to drop some. Losing sucks and we see all of the flaws with the team when it happens. I said it before the season and I still see it now that this is not a Superbowl team this year but next year could be and seeing the progression of JA gives me hope. We are a good team that is riding on JA's back and he can win us a lot of games (he's not perfect but he's our guy and can carry the team). Nobody thought our D was going to drop off like it has but McD & Beane will take care of it and emphasis will be on it by next season. Now get healthy & fix that D soon, please!! Go Bills!!! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted October 14, 2020 Share Posted October 14, 2020 I will talk about the Bills Record after 7 games after 7 games. Right now they are 4-1 after 5 games, Leading the AFCE and have a very high powered offense. And Many if not all would have accepted a 4-1 record after 5 games. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BornAgainBillsFan Posted October 14, 2020 Share Posted October 14, 2020 6 minutes ago, Gene1973 said: Hmm, they are the ones who wiffed on it this past offseason though... Granted, they had to deal with two retirements and an opt out. And don't look for much help in FA next offseason, considering the drop in the salary cap to $175mil. We're going to be losing talent, not gaining it. But luckily everybody else will be, too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJS Posted October 14, 2020 Share Posted October 14, 2020 2 minutes ago, MAJBobby said: I will talk about the Bills Record after 7 games after 7 games. Right now they are 4-1 after 5 games, Leading the AFCE and have a very high powered offense. And Many if not all would have accepted a 4-1 record after 5 games. I had us going 4-1, but I had us losing to Vegas and winning against the Titans. But that was a little biased. I just WANTED the win against the Titans because I don't like them and I don't like Tannehill. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charles Romes Posted October 14, 2020 Share Posted October 14, 2020 Beane has lost his magic touch in terms of picking up DL free agents who can play. What happens when we are on Allen’s second contract and there is no money at all. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted October 14, 2020 Share Posted October 14, 2020 1 minute ago, MJS said: I had us going 4-1, but I had us losing to Vegas and winning against the Titans. But that was a little biased. I just WANTED the win against the Titans because I don't like them and I don't like Tannehill. See I also had them 4-1 losing to the Rams, while winning against the Titans. Hurts just a bit more that the win loss came to an AFC team over an NFC team, but doubt it hurts playoff push. 1 minute ago, Charles Romes said: Beane has lost his magic touch in terms of picking up DL free agents who can play. What happens when we are on Allen’s second contract and there is no money at all. OR. DL is mitigated greatly because the NFL stopped calling holding calls this year. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJS Posted October 14, 2020 Share Posted October 14, 2020 1 minute ago, MAJBobby said: See I also had them 4-1 losing to the Rams, while winning against the Titans. Hurts just a bit more that the win loss came to an AFC team over an NFC team, but doubt it hurts playoff push. I just thought the Raiders would be a sneaky team to come in and hand us a loss (and they showed they can do that with their win over the Chiefs). And I felt like we could match up well with the Rams, especially if we could get after Goff, which we didn't. It will be an interesting season. You always win some and lose some you don't expect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted October 14, 2020 Share Posted October 14, 2020 Just now, MJS said: I just thought the Raiders would be a sneaky team to come in and hand us a loss (and they showed they can do that with their win over the Chiefs). And I felt like we could match up well with the Rams, especially if we could get after Goff, which we didn't. It will be an interesting season. You always win some and lose some you don't expect. Yep and I would not be surprised if this loss sticks in the stomach of this Bills team and Coaching staff and McD has them fired up to hand his mentor a loss. And WHO would have thought at the Beginning of this season that Bills could hand KC a loss. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJS Posted October 14, 2020 Share Posted October 14, 2020 1 minute ago, MAJBobby said: Yep and I would not be surprised if this loss sticks in the stomach of this Bills team and Coaching staff and McD has them fired up to hand his mentor a loss. And WHO would have thought at the Beginning of this season that Bills could hand KC a loss. I picked us to win against KC. I thought it was going to be another game like the Dallas Thanksgiving game where our team comes into primetime fired up, with an elite defense. But... not sure how our defense can handle the Chiefs now. They certainly are not elite anymore. I expect a loss, but we'll see. We've seen McDermott shore up the defense after a big loss in the past. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kwai San Posted October 14, 2020 Share Posted October 14, 2020 5 minutes ago, MAJBobby said: Yep and I would not be surprised if this loss sticks in the stomach of this Bills team and Coaching staff and McD has them fired up to hand his mentor a loss. And WHO would have thought at the Beginning of this season that Bills could hand KC a loss. Well they haven't yet and will be facing an equally fired up team. Going to be a big huge test. Go Bills Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted October 14, 2020 Share Posted October 14, 2020 3 minutes ago, MJS said: I picked us to win against KC. I thought it was going to be another game like the Dallas Thanksgiving game where our team comes into primetime fired up, with an elite defense. But... not sure how our defense can handle the Chiefs now. They certainly are not elite anymore. I expect a loss, but we'll see. We've seen McDermott shore up the defense after a big loss in the past. Drop 8, Rush 3 plug up the passing lanes and DARE the chiefs to take it out of Mahomes hands and put it in CEH hands to win, just like the Raiders did. 2 minutes ago, Kwai San said: Well they haven't yet and will be facing an equally fired up team. Going to be a big huge test. Go Bills Well we are in a thread talking about a week 7 record. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnnycage46 Posted October 14, 2020 Share Posted October 14, 2020 I'm ok with our current record and if they get to 5-2 after 7 games that's great. I think the concerning thing from last night (and also weeks 2-4 that were "hidden" due to our offensive performances and winning) is just how bad our D can be. That, for me, is what gives me the most trepidation about getting too excited for the remainder of the season. We have some very good offenses to play left on the schedule so, while 5-2 at this point would be nice, last night planted a little seed of doubt for me that we can make any noise down the stretch and/or in the playoffs if we can get there. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted October 14, 2020 Share Posted October 14, 2020 5 minutes ago, Gene1973 said: Then why has the Bills D fallen so far in the rankings? Should be a relative decline, correct? Well lets see how many games has this defense been completely healthy, sorry cannot compare a healthy team getting TOs, to a banged up team not. Doesnt work that way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TroutDog Posted October 14, 2020 Share Posted October 14, 2020 15 minutes ago, MAJBobby said: DL is mitigated greatly because the NFL stopped calling holding calls this year Certainly a big component. Good call. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TroutDog Posted October 14, 2020 Share Posted October 14, 2020 Last year the Chiefs lost four games between weeks five and ten. Did they fire everyone, get rid of players and bring in others? Stay calm and right the ship. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted October 14, 2020 Share Posted October 14, 2020 Just now, Gene1973 said: I bet a lot of other defenses are "banged up" as well though? Yep and alot of other Defenses are not good this year either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBillies Posted October 14, 2020 Share Posted October 14, 2020 (edited) A positive way to look at it... If the refs didn't call the PI on Rams at end of game (which was a very questionable call), Bills would have lost, then we would have needed to beat Tenn to get to 4-1. ...Well, the Bills are 4-1, so no harm done. Get healthy this week (Tre, Brown, Spain, Moss). Big time HOME game. Like it.... Edited October 14, 2020 by BuffaloBillies Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted October 14, 2020 Share Posted October 14, 2020 2 minutes ago, Gene1973 said: Right, but, relative to the rest of the defenses in the league, the Bills are performing much worse than last season in relation to said defenses (like 15 spots in the rankings). This cannot be just due to holding penalties and injuries (which every team deals with). So, something else is amiss... Yeah could be that their CB1, CB2, CB3 havent played together yet MLB and WLB have played together healthy 2 games Their DT2 is not even a full year back from his leg injury and Everyone is a year older. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thenorthremembers Posted October 14, 2020 Share Posted October 14, 2020 Still think they go 12-4 or 11-5, but we will see. Long season, one bad game thus far. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr.Sack Posted October 14, 2020 Share Posted October 14, 2020 We need to focus on playing the Chiefs and beating them at their game. Also let’s remember if we win 80% of our games that puts us above Belichickian levels. We won’t do that and historically you’ll never be able to maintain a 100% winning percentage. The Bills will be fine, and we will find a way to run the ball and play better D. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Casey D Posted October 14, 2020 Share Posted October 14, 2020 Looking at the schedule, Bills "should win" against @Jets, Dolphins, @Broncos and Chargers. That's 8. Should be able to win 2 or 3 of remaining 7. 10-6 11-5 could easily win division if Bills at least split with Pats. Nothing to panic about. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeGOATski Posted October 14, 2020 Share Posted October 14, 2020 1 hour ago, MAJBobby said: I will talk about the Bills Record after 7 games after 7 games. Right now they are 4-1 after 5 games, Leading the AFCE and have a very high powered offense. And Many if not all would have accepted a 4-1 record after 5 games. Deja vu from last year... I remember hearing these same sentiments when the Bills were 5-2 after the Eagles trampled them. They're gonna be okay. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Casey D Posted October 14, 2020 Share Posted October 14, 2020 3 minutes ago, ScottLaw said: Honestly I think one team comes out of the East..... 3 are coming out of the North, IMO so that leaves one spot for the loser of the other 3 divisions. Absolutely must win the division. Maybe. Prediction on North seems right. 2nd in East will be competing for slot likely against Raiders and Colts, neither of which are great and Bills already beat Raiders. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeGOATski Posted October 14, 2020 Share Posted October 14, 2020 47 minutes ago, BuffaloBillies said: If the refs didn't call the PI on Rams at end of game (which was a very questionable call), Bills would have lost, then we would have needed to beat Tenn to get to 4-1. Not questionable at all. People simply don't like that call at the end of a game. Boo hoo....IMO, the refs just need to call it consistently, no matter what point in the game they're at. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
corta765 Posted October 14, 2020 Share Posted October 14, 2020 1 hour ago, Charles Romes said: Beane has lost his magic touch in terms of picking up DL free agents who can play. What happens when we are on Allen’s second contract and there is no money at all. I have been hyper critical of the defenses failing to start the season. But to the defense of Beane I do not believe he foresaw Star opting out. With Star to eat space I believe Buffalo's D would be doing a bit better, not Top 5 better but it would have certainly helped. I never understood the criticism of Star once we signed him and by the end of last year I think people understood his importance even if the numbers didn't reflect it. Star opted out on July 29th which isn't a lot of time to find or fill a suitable replacement. Also Beane will not be perfect everytime. I will fault him for the defensive line additions in the first 5 games not making an impact, but it isn't like he ignored the position either. The major mistake to me was I think Beane thought AJ would step right in for Shaq which hasn't happened to this time. Clowney was there to go for as added strength and he never seemed interested even after Star left. But Beane has found a lot of guys in the past including Phillips and I believe he will find more this may have just been a bad year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Casey D Posted October 14, 2020 Share Posted October 14, 2020 2 minutes ago, ScottLaw said: Sure....but it doesn't always work that way. See the 2017 Bills. Got annihilated by the Ravens in week 1 and won the tiebreaker over them for the final playoff spot in week 17. Of course. But I think 10 wins gets you in. Only 9 in 2017. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustWinPlease Posted October 14, 2020 Share Posted October 14, 2020 Next year? No, they need to get this sh*t figured out now and compete this year. They not only need to make the playoffs, they need to win a playoff game at the very least. This is the roster they put together, it's year #3...no excuses. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Success Posted October 14, 2020 Share Posted October 14, 2020 Looking at our schedule and the Patriots, I'm becoming more inclined to think that the entire season will come down to the head-to-head matchups. We just can't get swept again. I believe we can maintain a 1 game advantage over them in all of the other games - but this Bills team MUST split w/ the Pats, at minimum. No more excuses. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freddie's Dead Posted October 14, 2020 Share Posted October 14, 2020 It's not the loss, it's the way they lost. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ethan in Cleveland Posted October 14, 2020 Share Posted October 14, 2020 I'd be quite happy with 5-2. But that does not mean I still wouldn't be concerned about the next 9 games. 44 minutes ago, Success said: Looking at our schedule and the Patriots, I'm becoming more inclined to think that the entire season will come down to the head-to-head matchups. We just can't get swept again. I believe we can maintain a 1 game advantage over them in all of the other games - but this Bills team MUST split w/ the Pats, at minimum. No more excuses. Seriously if McD can't beat Belichick at least once this year, then we have bigger issues than we think. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ethan in Cleveland Posted October 14, 2020 Share Posted October 14, 2020 2 hours ago, Casey D said: Looking at the schedule, Bills "should win" against @Jets, Dolphins, @Broncos and Chargers. That's 8. Should be able to win 2 or 3 of remaining 7. 10-6 11-5 could easily win division if Bills at least split with Pats. Nothing to panic about. Agreed. I'd put the 49ers game in the should win list. Dolphins will be as tough to be beat again as it will be to split with New England. But Bills can win all three and a sweep of Belichick would be a great step forward for this team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kwai San Posted October 15, 2020 Share Posted October 15, 2020 8 hours ago, MAJBobby said: Well we are in a thread talking about a week 7 record. Crazy days no???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloFan68 Posted October 15, 2020 Share Posted October 15, 2020 The D was better with Lawson & Phillips. Just saying Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DBilz2500 Posted October 15, 2020 Share Posted October 15, 2020 9 hours ago, ScottLaw said: Sure....but it doesn't always work that way. See the 2017 Bills. Got annihilated by the Ravens in week 1 and won the tiebreaker over them for the final playoff spot in week 17. Actually we didn’t play the Ravens in 2017. We played them the first game of 2018. We beat them on a 3 way tiebreaker for that ‘17 playoff spot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted October 15, 2020 Share Posted October 15, 2020 11 hours ago, BuffaloButt said: Before the season started, if you were told the Bills would be 5-2 and up next is New England wouldn't you be looking at the team in a positive light? Tough schedule and we knew we're going to drop some. Losing sucks and we see all of the flaws with the team when it happens. I said it before the season and I still see it now that this is not a Superbowl team this year but next year could be and seeing the progression of JA gives me hope. We are a good team that is riding on JA's back and he can win us a lot of games (he's not perfect but he's our guy and can carry the team). Nobody thought our D was going to drop off like it has but McD & Beane will take care of it and emphasis will be on it by next season. Now get healthy & fix that D soon, please!! Go Bills!!! 4-0 you start thinking you're unbeatable. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DBilz2500 Posted October 15, 2020 Share Posted October 15, 2020 Just now, ScottLaw said: You are right... I meant the Chargers. Yup. I do think with the expanded playoff field that we easily get in with even just 8-9 wins Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BADOLBILZ Posted October 15, 2020 Share Posted October 15, 2020 11 hours ago, BuffaloButt said: Before the season started, if you were told the Bills would be 5-2 and up next is New England wouldn't you be looking at the team in a positive light? Tough schedule and we knew we're going to drop some. Losing sucks and we see all of the flaws with the team when it happens. I said it before the season and I still see it now that this is not a Superbowl team this year but next year could be and seeing the progression of JA gives me hope. We are a good team that is riding on JA's back and he can win us a lot of games (he's not perfect but he's our guy and can carry the team). Nobody thought our D was going to drop off like it has but McD & Beane will take care of it and emphasis will be on it by next season. Now get healthy & fix that D soon, please!! Go Bills!!! It's ALL RELATIVE. How you get to the record means equally as much(if not more) than the number. How would you feel about going 16-1? Wouldn't you take that before the season started? I think a truly happy ending to a Bills season is going to have a sum of at least 19 outcomes. The whole "I'll be happy if they just win the division" kinda' thing is only an attempt to mitigate the pain of failure. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloButt Posted October 20, 2020 Author Share Posted October 20, 2020 So we've learned we are not as good as our 4-0 record indicated. We'll be 5-2 as I started this post but we now know there are some glaring holes to fix that may take a year to fix if possible. We are going to win the division but it appears we can't beat the top teams. We will rebound and they sky isn't falling. We're not a disaster but we have work to do. What are realistic expectations for this season? Playoff win and become competitive against playoff teams. I believe both are possible and realistic by seasons end if they start making some more aggressive changes. Go Bills!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted October 20, 2020 Share Posted October 20, 2020 On 10/14/2020 at 11:28 PM, PromoTheRobot said: 4-0 you start thinking you're unbeatable. So true. I had 12-4 to 10-6. Still very doable. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted October 20, 2020 Share Posted October 20, 2020 5 hours ago, SlimShady'sSpaceForce said: So true. I had 12-4 to 10-6. Still very doable. This always happens at the start of the year. Some new guy explodes on the scene. But eventually teams figure out what you're doing. And if you had weaknesses that were being covered up by your success you get exposed like we have. This is where McDermott & Co. will earn their checks. They have to solve these issues with a new strategy. I think we have good players. We just have to adjust. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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