Kmart128 Posted September 27, 2020 Share Posted September 27, 2020 (edited) Well I never thought id say this but Daboll looks like he may be worthy of his HC talk. If he takes a head coaching job who do we look for as a replacement. Personally we need to keep this current playbook and offense. Josh Allens knowledge of this offense is to great to give up on. Ken Dorsey i think would make a fantastic option. Since we added him Josh Allen just kept getting better. I think he has a bright future ahead of him. Edited September 27, 2020 by Kmart128 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted September 27, 2020 Share Posted September 27, 2020 Let's wait until at least game 12, can we? 9 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warcodered Posted September 27, 2020 Share Posted September 27, 2020 At this rate definitely though I hope maybe he picks his shot a bit more selectively. Just now, Hapless Bills Fan said: Let's wait until at least game 12, can we? He's our right now *****. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Doug Posted September 27, 2020 Share Posted September 27, 2020 I’m not so sure about this. Roman didn’t get any sniffs at HC. Plus, do we honestly think our offensive success is due to Daboll? I will give him credit for properly developing Allen though, but even this has been multifactorial. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2020 Our Year For Sure Posted September 27, 2020 Share Posted September 27, 2020 Could well be gone, any thoughts on Dirk Koetter? Most interesting guy I've been able to think of. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kmart128 Posted September 27, 2020 Author Share Posted September 27, 2020 22 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: Let's wait until at least game 12, can we? Well normally i would be he has already had a HC interview last offseason so i think we have to start to think about it being a likely scenario Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bangarang Posted September 27, 2020 Share Posted September 27, 2020 15 minutes ago, 2020 Our Year For Sure said: Could well be gone, any thoughts on Dirk Koetter? Most interesting guy I've been able to think of. I doubt McD would hire an outside guy that would want to change the scheme. I think if Daboll does leave, we’ll hire from within for the sake of continuity. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PrimeTime101 Posted September 27, 2020 Share Posted September 27, 2020 are we going to see this topic posted after every game? 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2020 Our Year For Sure Posted September 28, 2020 Share Posted September 28, 2020 19 minutes ago, Bangarang said: I doubt McD would hire an outside guy that would want to change the scheme. I think if Daboll does leave, we’ll hire from within for the sake of continuity. I hope not, it's a desirable job in almost every way, we should be able to get a strong, proven candidate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zevo Posted September 28, 2020 Share Posted September 28, 2020 I can’t believe we are discussing losing our oc after week 3....let’s just enjoy the ride 😎 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobobonators Posted September 28, 2020 Share Posted September 28, 2020 56 minutes ago, Warcodered said: At this rate definitely though I hope maybe he picks his shot a bit more selectively. He's our right now *****. I hope hes like Josh Mcdaniels 19 minutes ago, PrimeTime101 said: are we going to see this topic posted after every game? Last year we had Daboll threads for him to be fired now we have Daboll threads to be promoted to HC. Either way you slice it Daboll is not in the long term plans at TSW 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted September 28, 2020 Share Posted September 28, 2020 59 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: Let's wait until at least game 12, can we? Or at least bump one of the other "Daboll/HC" threads? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LabattBlue Posted September 28, 2020 Share Posted September 28, 2020 Who knows if he even has what it takes to be a HC. Not every coordinator is HC material. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yobogoya! Posted September 28, 2020 Share Posted September 28, 2020 Yeah but how many teams are going to want to wait til February to interview him? 😎 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bearstobills Posted September 28, 2020 Share Posted September 28, 2020 I'm not sure he'd want a head coaching gig. Mcdaniels turned down a bunch of offers. Life is pretty good for Brian Daboll right now, and he just may want to finish what he started......especially if the Pegulas make it worth his while. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bangarang Posted September 28, 2020 Share Posted September 28, 2020 1 minute ago, bearstobills said: I'm not sure he'd want a head coaching gig. Mcdaniels turned down a bunch of offers. Life is pretty good for Brian Daboll right now, and he just may want to finish what he started......especially if the Pegulas make it worth his while. He interviewed with the Browns last offseason so it seems like he’s at least entertaining the possibility 15 minutes ago, 2020 Our Year For Sure said: I hope not, it's a desirable job in almost every way, we should be able to get a strong, proven candidate. There’s no doubt it would be a highly desirable job but I think having continuity in a scheme Allen is comfortable with and in total control of means a lot to Beane and McD. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bangarang Posted September 28, 2020 Share Posted September 28, 2020 (edited) 1 minute ago, Gene1973 said: This is premature... Same was said about Frazier last season. Frazier was never realistically going to get HC chances. Daboll has already interviewed for an opening and I imagine he’ll get more this offseason. Edited September 28, 2020 by Bangarang 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malazan Posted September 28, 2020 Share Posted September 28, 2020 1 hour ago, Saint Doug said: I’m not so sure about this. Roman didn’t get any sniffs at HC. Plus, do we honestly think our offensive success is due to Daboll? I will give him credit for properly developing Allen though, but even this has been multifactorial. The Bills gameplan has been attacking opponents weaknesses. Plays are designed to attack them hard. Daboll is doing a good job. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GETTOTHE50 Posted September 28, 2020 Share Posted September 28, 2020 Watch the jets hire daboll Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
delirious Posted September 28, 2020 Share Posted September 28, 2020 1 minute ago, GETTOTHE50 said: Watch the jets hire daboll I think there's going to be quite a bit of vacancies this year in the NFL, that we shouldn't have to worry about that. Atlanta looks to be about the best as far as having immediate talent to work with if they fire Quinn. 1 hour ago, Saint Doug said: I’m not so sure about this. Roman didn’t get any sniffs at HC. Plus, do we honestly think our offensive success is due to Daboll? I will give him credit for properly developing Allen though, but even this has been multifactorial. Yes. Do you think it was someone other than Daboll, maybe a Keebler elf? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrDawkinstein Posted September 28, 2020 Share Posted September 28, 2020 My only concern is Daboll taking the offensive staff with him and giving them promotions. Maybe Dorsey wants to follow him? I dont know where allegiances really lie tho. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Doug Posted September 28, 2020 Share Posted September 28, 2020 1 hour ago, delirious said: Yes. Do you think it was someone other than Daboll, maybe a Keebler elf? Seriously? Yes, and his name is Josh. Without Allen progressing as he has, our offense would be in the bottom half of the league. Behind every great coach is a great QB. It’s also a big boost we have an elite WR on our team this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bangarang Posted September 28, 2020 Share Posted September 28, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, DrDawkinstein said: My only concern is Daboll taking the offensive staff with him and giving them promotions. Maybe Dorsey wants to follow him? I dont know where allegiances really lie tho. The only real promotion is becoming a HC. If Dorsey is next in line then you’d have to imagine he would rather coordinate a stacked offense led by a guy who’s playing like an MVP. Edited September 28, 2020 by Bangarang 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted September 28, 2020 Share Posted September 28, 2020 2 hours ago, Kmart128 said: Well normally i would be he has already had a HC interview last offseason so i think we have to start to think about it being a likely scenario Yeah, but it was with the Browns. I think that is kind of its own category 1 hour ago, DrDawkinstein said: My only concern is Daboll taking the offensive staff with him and giving them promotions. Maybe Dorsey wants to follow him? I dont know where allegiances really lie tho. If the staff is under contract, they stay if we want them to stay. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrDawkinstein Posted September 28, 2020 Share Posted September 28, 2020 1 minute ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: Yeah, but it was with the Browns. I think that is kind of its own category If the staff is under contract, they stay if we want them to stay. @Bangarang made a good point as well. I am convinced/relieved. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted September 28, 2020 Share Posted September 28, 2020 Just now, DrDawkinstein said: @Bangarang made a good point as well. I am convinced/relieved. I don't know that you should be. I thought Pettine would no way take a HC job with the Browns (worked predictably badly for him), but he did. To our benefit, remember, because Schwartz did a better job as DC. Bottom line I'm not sure my thoughts on this point have much predictive value, but I'm also not sure change is change for the worse. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TigerJ Posted September 28, 2020 Share Posted September 28, 2020 Maybe. I don't know that it's inevitable. Some coordinators, I think, are what you might call "mad scientist" types. They are great with Xs and Os, but don't really have the charisma to forge a bunch of players into a team. Moreover, they know it, and don't really aspire to a position that takes them away from what they love - designing plays and strategizing, and instead taking the role of manager and motivator. I'm hoping Daboll is that kind of guy. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob in STL Posted September 28, 2020 Share Posted September 28, 2020 I really hope the site puts a filter on these threads. win a big game and we are losing a coach. Let’s really win something before we go crazy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PrimeTime101 Posted September 28, 2020 Share Posted September 28, 2020 not every oc\dc make good head coaches just cause they were great oc\dc... I think Our OC loves where hes at and not going anywhere just my opinion 17 hours ago, bobobonators said: I hope hes like Josh Mcdaniels Last year we had Daboll threads for him to be fired now we have Daboll threads to be promoted to HC. Either way you slice it Daboll is not in the long term plans at TSW last 2 games it was talked about. we going to talk about it next game to? cant wait.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Call_Of_Ktulu Posted September 28, 2020 Share Posted September 28, 2020 (edited) 17 hours ago, Bangarang said: Frazier was never realistically going to get HC chances. Daboll has already interviewed for an opening and I imagine he’ll get more this offseason. Frazier is a better than average/good DC but I don’t see Frazier as a HC. Daboll might have that HC mentality and everyone is hiring good OC’s that can develop a young QB. Unless this offense completely just falls apart I’m 99% sure Daboll is gone. Edited September 28, 2020 by Call_Of_Ktulu Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WideNine Posted September 28, 2020 Share Posted September 28, 2020 18 hours ago, Kmart128 said: Well I never thought id say this but Daboll looks like he may be worthy of his HC talk. If he takes a head coaching job who do we look for as a replacement. Personally we need to keep this current playbook and offense. Josh Allens knowledge of this offense is to great to give up on. Ken Dorsey i think would make a fantastic option. Since we added him Josh Allen just kept getting better. I think he has a bright future ahead of him. I think this would be a mistake for Dabs, as he is one of those guys who makes a great OC, but prob not HC. Sometimes we should stick to what we do well. There is a selfish element to that, but still true. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chandler#81 Posted September 28, 2020 Share Posted September 28, 2020 adding Assistant HC to his title (along with some Peg$ Buck$) is very Process, so.. Maybe I’m pie in the sky, but I think he loves being here, living here and being able to just focus on Offense. Make no mistake though, he’s had the best tutelage (Saban, Evil Warlord & Process). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridgewaycynic2013 Posted September 28, 2020 Share Posted September 28, 2020 18 hours ago, Kmart128 said: Well I never thought id say this but Daboll looks like he may be worthy of his HC talk. If he takes a head coaching job who do we look for as a replacement. Personally we need to keep this current playbook and offense. More importantly, if he jumps ship, doesn't that mean the Bills take out a hit on him? 🤔 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bangarang Posted September 28, 2020 Share Posted September 28, 2020 7 minutes ago, Call_Of_Ktulu said: Frazier is a better than average/good DC but I don’t see Frazier as a HC. Daboll might have that HC mentality and everyone is hiring good OC’s that can develop a young QB. Unless this offense completely just falls apart I’m 99% sure Daboll is gone. Who knows? Greg Roman still hasn’t been hired as a HC yet and Eric Bieniemy will also likely get interviews this offseason. Then there’s other coordinators not mentioned yet, former HCs and current college coaches. Anything could happen but there’s no question Daboll will be a hot candidate if this offense keeps things going. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kmart128 Posted September 29, 2020 Author Share Posted September 29, 2020 On 9/27/2020 at 8:37 PM, DrDawkinstein said: My only concern is Daboll taking the offensive staff with him and giving them promotions. Maybe Dorsey wants to follow him? I dont know where allegiances really lie tho. I have a feeling Dorsey would be more loyal to McDermott than Daboll... worked with him longer 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted September 29, 2020 Share Posted September 29, 2020 On 9/28/2020 at 2:01 PM, Chandler#81 said: adding Assistant HC to his title (along with some Peg$ Buck$) is very Process, so.. Maybe I’m pie in the sky, but I think he loves being here, living here and being able to just focus on Offense. Make no mistake though, he’s had the best tutelage (Saban, Evil Warlord & Process). He had a cup of coffee in Bama. He sent years holding BB's cup of coffee in NE. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
machine gun kelly Posted September 29, 2020 Share Posted September 29, 2020 Jets hire Daboll, which I doubt, and not sure on Dorsey. NFL teams have All 22 tapes so there are no surprises In what is being done. I think the fire/promote Coordinators is a bit premature. This is a great February conversation, not a September conversation. At least no knucklehead is already bringing up free agency, draft pick threads at this point of the year. I get the passing comment, we should grab a TE next year, but we can have way too much fun talking about this year, THIS YEAR. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted September 29, 2020 Share Posted September 29, 2020 On 9/27/2020 at 7:24 PM, Bangarang said: Frazier was never realistically going to get HC chances. Daboll has already interviewed for an opening and I imagine he’ll get more this offseason. I know he wasn't considered, but I'm truly not understanding why not? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dean Posted September 30, 2020 Share Posted September 30, 2020 On 9/27/2020 at 8:24 PM, Bangarang said: Frazier was never realistically going to get HC chances. Daboll has already interviewed for an opening and I imagine he’ll get more this offseason. Frazier has already been a HC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bangarang Posted September 30, 2020 Share Posted September 30, 2020 20 minutes ago, The Dean said: Frazier has already been a HC. I know, which is why he won’t be again. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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