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As an Aussie NFL fan, ESPN is our only option when it comes to opinion shows and live game coverage.

 

I have watched the ESPN crew collectively ridicule Josh almost to a man with few exceptions - none more so than that clown Trey Wingo.

 

However. this season they have already changed their tune - they have given him a big thumbs up. Although they still believe the pats with Cam are a superior team.

 

At least now he is starting to get the respect he deserves.

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Ok I'm apparently an idiot (and idiot, for some) on how to use this. It says I need espn+, which I have, but opens ESPN app which is telling me I need to subscribe? 

 

I know I'm over complicating this right? 

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6 minutes ago, The Wiz said:

Ok I'm apparently an idiot (and idiot, for some) on how to use this. It says I need espn+, which I have, but opens ESPN app which is telling me I need to subscribe? 

 

I know I'm over complicating this right? 


Are you logged in on the app?

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15 minutes ago, LeviF91 said:


Are you logged in on the app?

I am. It's asking me to restore my espn+ subscription but it's still active. Keeps sending me in an endless loop. 

 

I have the Hulu, espn+, Disney plus bundle and has worked fine in the past. 

 

Edit: Pretty sure it's the espn app that's causing the issues because it doesn't authenticate me with my same account as the normal Disney linked account for the other three. 

 

Oh well, I'll catch it on my computer later. 

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Just got done looking it and it was very very good. It provided some subtle coaching for Allen on some little things that can help his game for example:

  • Keeping all his fake snaps looking just like his real snaps. 
     
  • Reducing his base to avoid his lineman from stepping on him (showed where it almost happened)
  • Showed a play where he did keep 2 hands on the ball for ball security but another where he did not but did try to keep the ball away from the defender.

Other highlights were:
 

Show Allen protecting TE Gilliam on the Td pass from taking a big hit.


Peyton also showed what a ridiculous talent Josh Allen is by highlighting plays plays Allen was getting hit but still put the ball on the money on some long pass plays


Showed Allen correcting reading the defense and the contrast of Baker Mayfield misreading the same type of play.

 

Show Gabe Davis working back toward Allen for the TD catch

 

Last but not least showed a couple of Diggs catches one of which showed Diggs fighting for position to shield off the defender from making a play on the ball.

 

Also showed Digg running a ridiculous route on the single side of the formation near the goal where shook the ***** out of the defender ( which I did notice live and commented on by the gameday thread) but Allen reads were to the other side of the formation. ( In my opinion Allen first read should be to Diggs when he is one on one with a defender in the red zone)

 

Overall a great video to watch and I am going to see if Allen implements any of the advice he was given into his game.

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Just now, Warcodered said:

The snaps maybe and he's still going to be working on ball security but I doubt he messes with his base during the season, plus he has that little hop he's been doing to protect himself.

Yeah I was more thinking like the Snaps and Ball Security as well.

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Finally got to watch it and glad I did. Honestly with all that I've seen of Manning lately, nationwide and his recent interview about NE, I expected some slapstick humor the whole time.  There was a bunch but not not really related to what he was watching of the game film. 

 

Great insight. 

 

Also I didn't realize from watching on TV how much it was raining in that game. 

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Easily one of the best, and most entertaining,  breakdowns I have seen. Peyton continues to impress me.

 

Had to join ESPN+ to see it. But I'm guessing Details is worth the price of admission.

 

And IMO far more on point than what JT (raindrops keep falling on my head) O'Sullivan had to say.

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2 hours ago, eball said:

For those of you who have ESPN+ this is a must watch. Peyton is great. Hopefully Josh watched this and got some tips. But it is awesome.

 

https://www.reddit.com/r/buffalobills/comments/izxein/peyton_manning_breaking_down_josh_allen_watch_espn/

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He pointed out a lot of small areas for Josh to improve in that I never would have thought about. For example, Josh keeps a pretty wide stance under center and Peyton shows a few times where it almost resulted in the guard stepping on him as he takes the snap and drops back. Another was trying to do hard counts to get the defense to jump Offside but when Josh does it, he uses different mannerisms than when he actually does take the snap. Peyton said defenses clue in on those tiny mannerisms and know when the QB is bluffing if they aren’t using consistent tendencies.

 

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This was great, thanks for the link. I got ESPN+ free with Disney+ and this is the first time I've used it. I wouldn't recommend buying it stand alone. That said, Peyton is amazing in this show and I learned a bunch from his breakdown and insight.  Josh is super impressive with room to grow.  It's a good time to be a Bills fan.

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44 minutes ago, Gene Frenkle said:

This was great, thanks for the link. I got ESPN+ free with Disney+ and this is the first time I've used it. I wouldn't recommend buying it stand alone. That said, Peyton is amazing in this show and I learned a bunch from his breakdown and insight.  Josh is super impressive with room to grow.  It's a good time to be a Bills fan.

ESPN plus is a great deal for $4.99. it lets you watch tons of college football games that you wouldn't normally get, as well as tons of other sporting events

 

And replays

 

I can watch all the college basketball I want, and college football. It really is good

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4 hours ago, Protocal69 said:

Just got done looking it and it was very very good. It provided some subtle coaching for Allen on some little things that can help his game for example:

 

Your recap is greatly appreciated.  THANKS, MAN!!!

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I haven't seen it but the fakes thing is interesting. I thought last year Josh had a definite tell when we were going to run a screen in that he seemed to drop his head and his eyes to look at the rush straight off the bat rather than selling the downfield throw. Through two games in 2020 he has definitely got better at "selling" the deep throw which opens up the screen. It is an example of him really developing the nuance of the position as he goes along and the hard count fakes might just be the next one for him to master. 

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4 hours ago, GunnerBill said:

I haven't seen it but the fakes thing is interesting. I thought last year Josh had a definite tell when we were going to run a screen in that he seemed to drop his head and his eyes to look at the rush straight off the bat rather than selling the downfield throw. Through two games in 2020 he has definitely got better at "selling" the deep throw which opens up the screen. It is an example of him really developing the nuance of the position as he goes along and the hard count fakes might just be the next one for him to master. 

 

Yes.  This is the best thing to come out of the show, in my opinion.  Peyton picking up on little things that take a good QB to the next level.  It is clear that no matter who the analyst is, though, they are all “wowed” by some of Josh’s throws.  There were a couple where Peyton was almost speechless.  It’s a really good 20-minute watch.

 

Edit:  and I’m just going to add...if you don’t like Peyton Manning’s humor and charisma, combined with his knowledge, I don’t know what to say.  The guy is absolutely awesome and would be amazing in the booth if he ever decides to go in that direction.

 

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The reason why Peyton is so good is because he is a perfectiomist, extremely hardworking, self-motivated, and into every detail. He focuses on things most cannot, will not or do not. He is always looking for the extra small mental edge to be better than the rest, to make up for any physical shortcomings. He wants to be one step ahead (no pun intended) of everyone else, and in order to do so he analyzes everything, by breaking everything up into minute parts. He seems to not fret over those things he cannot control, but to obsessively worry about, hone, and fix those mistakes and  things he could have done better, and to find the smaller things that others do not see. He is ensence wants to learn and perfect everything that he feels he can control, which means to  nitpick and learn from everything, no matter how small, and to have a need for preciseness, promptness and structure. .

 

I am unsure if Josh is as intense as Manning there, and as he has different personality and had more physical tools than Manning and may have not needed to compensate for such as much, but Josh seems to have many of those traits, in wanting to be the best, and in wanting to fix wrongs and pick others's brains. He seems hardworking and self-motivated too. Lots of qbs at this level are, but I see Josh as adaptable and more than willing to listen and admit wrongs and sincerely believe that he can and must do better. He is not insecure in feeling he has to have all the answers and not learn from others. I do think Payton likely obsesses more about being great, and that is ok, as it lead to his greatness, and he wants others to be great too. Josh will be Josh. He will do his best to apply and practice everything he learnes, and use that chip on his shoulder to motivate him, too..

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32 minutes ago, BillsDude said:

The reason why Peyton is so good is because he is a perfectiomist, extremely hardworking, self-motivated, and into every detail. He focuses on things most cannot, will not or do not. He is always looking for the extra small mental edge to be better than the rest, to make up for any physical shortcomings. He wants to be one step ahead (no pun intended) of everyone else, and in order to do so he analyzes everything, by breaking everything up into minute parts. He seems to not fret over those things he cannot control, but to obsessively worry about, hone, and fix those mistakes and  things he could have done better, and to find the smaller things that others do not see. He is ensence wants to learn and perfect everything that he feels he can control, which means to  nitpick and learn from everything, no matter how small, and to have a need for preciseness, promptness and structure. .

 

I am unsure if Josh is as intense as Manning there, and as he has different personality and had more physical tools than Manning and may have not needed to compensate for such as much, but Josh seems to have many of those traits, in wanting to be the best, and in wanting to fix wrongs and pick others's brains. He seems hardworking and self-motivated too. Lots of qbs at this level are, but I see Josh as adaptable and more than willing to listen and admit wrongs and sincerely believe that he can and must do better. He is not insecure in feeling he has to have all the answers and not learn from others. I do think Payton likely obsesses more about being great, and that is ok, as it lead to his greatness, and he wants others to be great too. Josh will be Josh. He will do his best to apply and practice everything he learnes, and use that chip on his shoulder to motivate him, too..

Didn’t Josh and Peyton get together this offseason at some point or am I imagining I saw that written about?

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11 minutes ago, Buffalo Boy said:

Didn’t Josh and Peyton get together this offseason at some point or am I imagining I saw that written about?

2017 is what Manning was referencing in the video. 

 

Allen was a camp counselor at his passing academy. 

 

https://www.google.com/amp/s/trib.com/sports/college/wyoming/football/josh-allen-headed-to-manning-passing-academy-as-camp-counselor/article_f58da20f-eca2-5f93-8158-b458b4902ab0.amp.html

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12 hours ago, The Wiz said:

Finally got to watch it and glad I did. Honestly with all that I've seen of Manning lately, nationwide and his recent interview about NE, I expected some slapstick humor the whole time.  There was a bunch but not not really related to what he was watching of the game film. 

 

Great insight. 

 

Also I didn't realize from watching on TV how much it was raining in that game. 

Yep I was there and it was a constant shower for quite some time. Even within the stadium under the roof sections it's a little difficult to see unless it at the right angle.

 

Yeah very wet for a while there. Made me very worried for fumbles.

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15 hours ago, brianthomas said:

hopefully someone uploads the segment somewhere so i can check it out

I know i could pay the $5.99 but im not gonna just for this

I was in the same boat about ESPN+ but i've had it for like 3-4 months now and I gotta say there is some fantastic content.

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