YoloinOhio Posted September 21, 2020 Share Posted September 21, 2020 (edited) What horrible weekend for injuries Saquon Barkley, Nick Bosa, Solomon Thomas, Courtland Sutton, out for year with torn ACLs Plus mccaffrey out several weeks with high ankle sprain Edited September 21, 2020 by YoloinOhio 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Punching Bag Posted September 21, 2020 Share Posted September 21, 2020 IMO the reason for so many injuries is lack of formal training camp and preseason. Yes they had virtual ones where they had nutrition and training go over issues with players over video but not the same. Lack of equipment during off season is also reason - having the best training equipment is why Bills invested in facilities. I am sure NFLPA disagrees. They want preseason and training camps reduced as much as possible and they always have. 10 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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GoBills808 Posted September 21, 2020 Share Posted September 21, 2020 McCaffrey I believe is being held out in an attempt by Panthers to get to #1 overall Unfortunately that already belongs to Jets Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Call_Of_Ktulu Posted September 21, 2020 Share Posted September 21, 2020 More money at the cost of the players health. I make less but it is the same song and dance at my company as well. The we appreciate you speech with stay safe and oh by the way we are increasing your work load 30% and still want you to be safe. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Houston's #1 Bills Fan Posted September 21, 2020 Share Posted September 21, 2020 wow - rough! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rubes Posted September 21, 2020 Share Posted September 21, 2020 It's true any year, but this year in particular...whoever gets through the season with the fewest key injuries will be the last one standing. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Vader Posted September 21, 2020 Share Posted September 21, 2020 Brutal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Biscuit97 Posted September 21, 2020 Share Posted September 21, 2020 I 👏 Hate 👏 Injuries 👏 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punching Bag Posted September 21, 2020 Share Posted September 21, 2020 3 minutes ago, Call_Of_Ktulu said: More money at the cost of the players health. I make less but it is the same song and dance at my company as well. The we appreciate you speech with stay safe and oh by the way we are increasing your work load 30% and still want you to be safe. Players workload over the summer were greatly reduced and it shows in tackling. Facts do not match what you are saying. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted September 21, 2020 Author Share Posted September 21, 2020 (edited) 5 minutes ago, GoBills808 said: McCaffrey I believe is being held out in an attempt by Panthers to get to #1 overall Unfortunately that already belongs to Jets You think they move on from Darnold if they are picking #1? Or trade the pick for a kings ransom Edited September 21, 2020 by YoloinOhio Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoBills808 Posted September 21, 2020 Share Posted September 21, 2020 Just now, YoloinOhio said: You think they move on from Darnold if they are picking #1? Or trade for a kings ransom I think it depends entirely on what direction they go wrt Gase If they cut him loose, then it will depend on whether the incoming staff likes Darnold or wants their own guy. If they keep Gase I imagine they trade out Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gigs Posted September 21, 2020 Share Posted September 21, 2020 This is why training camps and preseason is integral to the growth of a team, and keeps players fit and conditioned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerome007 Posted September 21, 2020 Share Posted September 21, 2020 No doubt months of so little contact impacted that. I say "no doubt" but while I haven't followed the NHL playoffs for the very first time since I'm a teen, I have not heard of an injury galore. Has there been one? I thought they too would suffer a lot more injuries, going from being idle to all-out playoff hockey. But I haven't heard such. Point is, it might coincidence but yeah, no preseason and so little contact in camp could be the culprit, of course. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted September 21, 2020 Author Share Posted September 21, 2020 3 minutes ago, GoBills808 said: I think it depends entirely on what direction they go wrt Gase If they cut him loose, then it will depend on whether the incoming staff likes Darnold or wants their own guy. If they keep Gase I imagine they trade out He’s not really Gase’s guy either, so possibly it won’t matter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shaw66 Posted September 21, 2020 Share Posted September 21, 2020 16 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: Saquon Barkley, Nick Bosa, Solomon Thomas, Courtland Sutton, out for year with torn ACLs I can't remember a weekend when four names that big went down for the season. Each one of those guys is a big-time contributor to his team. We all love watching this game, and I'm regularly reminded that what we're watching is a stylized version of war. Boxing and MMA are more directly violent, one on one, but football is like watching two armies in battle. Part of what makes it similar to watching a battle is that the combatants actually are at risk. Weekends like this make that risk all the more apparent. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shane nelson Posted September 21, 2020 Share Posted September 21, 2020 I never understood why the NFL does not mandate that all players wear knee braces. I know they say its speed and the ability to cut, but if all the players had braces it would be an equalizer. Perhaps a more modified brace for the skilled positions. If they made it a mandate the technology would evolve. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoBills808 Posted September 21, 2020 Share Posted September 21, 2020 4 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: He’s not really Gase’s guy either, so possibly it won’t matter but then what do you do w Darnold...I mean his trade value plummets if they draft a guy #1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shaw66 Posted September 21, 2020 Share Posted September 21, 2020 2 minutes ago, Jerome007 said: No doubt months of so little contact impacted that. I say "no doubt" but while I haven't followed the NHL playoffs for the very first time since I'm a teen, I have not heard of an injury galore. Has there been one? I thought they too would suffer a lot more injuries, going from being idle to all-out playoff hockey. But I haven't heard such. THe hamstrin Point is, it might coincidence but yeah, no preseason and so little contact in camp could be the culprit, of course. I think you're correct, particularly the ACLs. There is very little training that anyone can do to help avoid ACLs, and what can be done is primarily strength conditioning, which can be done anywhere, anytime. Torn ACLs are about applying just the right amount of stress at just the right angle. It's a combination of events that you can't train for or prepare for. A lot of torn ACLs are non-contact injuries. This weekend was just a bad weekend. The hamstrings, shoulders, other stuff may be more directly related to this year's training regimens. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Call_Of_Ktulu Posted September 21, 2020 Share Posted September 21, 2020 6 minutes ago, Limeaid said: Players workload over the summer were greatly reduced and it shows in tackling. Facts do not match what you are saying. I’m taking about how the owners are pushing hard for that 18 game season, my bad. The injuries this year are most likely due to poor grass/turf conditions and not much time to condition properly for the season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rc2catch Posted September 21, 2020 Share Posted September 21, 2020 This is really bad for football as a whole. Especially if it keeps up 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aristocrat Posted September 21, 2020 Share Posted September 21, 2020 man malik hooker is just the what could have been guy. huge athlete but his body is not built for the game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seasons1992 Posted September 21, 2020 Share Posted September 21, 2020 Hopefully the Bills avoid the Injury Fire Swamp this year....... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fergie's ire Posted September 21, 2020 Share Posted September 21, 2020 I know Kyle Shahan was blaming the "sticky" turf in Jersey. Not sure if it is new or why it would be different this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H2o Posted September 21, 2020 Share Posted September 21, 2020 26 minutes ago, GoBills808 said: McCaffrey I believe is being held out in an attempt by Panthers to get to #1 overall Unfortunately that already belongs to Jets Was just watching a video on ESPN where Keyshawn and some other guy were already talking about the Jets taking Lawrence #1 overall. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nextmanup Posted September 21, 2020 Share Posted September 21, 2020 Don't let anyone tell you this has anything to do with no pre-season. It's called bad luck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RyanC883 Posted September 21, 2020 Share Posted September 21, 2020 knew taking McCaffery no 1 overall in fantasy was risky. I think I jinxd him. last time I had a No. 1 pick I took David Johnson right before the injury. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GG Posted September 21, 2020 Share Posted September 21, 2020 55 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: What horrible weekend for injuries Saquon Barkley, Nick Bosa, Solomon Thomas, Courtland Sutton, out for year with torn ACLs It's made worse by many '49ers being concerned about the sticky field at Metlife before the game Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigBuff423 Posted September 21, 2020 Share Posted September 21, 2020 Having lunch with a friend a couple weeks ago, this was exactly what we talked about. The Pre-Season isn't really about talent evaluations anymore, it's much more about conditioning. For that purpose, I think 2 Pre-Season games still makes sense because they can get a quarter of play in the first week and then a full half the second Pre-Season game. Making that first week their 3rd game action of the season helping to diminish these issues. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Gregthekeg Posted September 21, 2020 Share Posted September 21, 2020 (edited) If anyone has too much time on their hands, I wonder how many injuries there are typically in the first few weeks of camp/preseason games on a typical year; and what that compares to with the games just played. Its feels like they compiled all the bad news that usually happens in the offseason into 8 hours of awfulness. Hopefully playing one game with their two starting LBs out is all the Bills have to deal with. Edited September 21, 2020 by Gregthekeg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seasons1992 Posted September 21, 2020 Share Posted September 21, 2020 4 minutes ago, Gregthekeg said: If anyone has too much time on their hands, I wonder how many injuries there are typically in the first few weeks of camp/preseason games on a typical year; and what that compares to with the games just played. Its feels like they compiled all the bad news that usually happens in the offseason into 8 hours of awfulness. Hopefully playing one game with their two starting LBs out is all the Bills have to deal with. This actually makes a lot of sense. It's just crazy how many big names are now gone for a while or for the year, all on the same day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chandler#81 Posted September 21, 2020 Share Posted September 21, 2020 1 hour ago, Gigs said: This is why training camps and preseason is integral to the growth of a team, and keeps players fit and conditioned. Are you the long lost, illegitimate son of @Gugny? He’s been claiming it’s all a frame job for years. ’Lil Gigs’ 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punching Bag Posted September 21, 2020 Share Posted September 21, 2020 24 minutes ago, Gregthekeg said: If anyone has too much time on their hands, I wonder how many injuries there are typically in the first few weeks of camp/preseason games on a typical year; and what that compares to with the games just played. Its feels like they compiled all the bad news that usually happens in the offseason into 8 hours of awfulness. Hopefully playing one game with their two starting LBs out is all the Bills have to deal with. You cannot compare easily. In preseason and training camp players would be let go that during year so they can get more bodies in camp, During year many of those may be inactive which is part of reason why there are inactive players. This year IR is different and bringing up from training is different and it is harder to get players on active roster from outside team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maryland-bills-fan Posted September 21, 2020 Share Posted September 21, 2020 1 hour ago, Limeaid said: IMO the reason for so many injuries is lack of formal training camp and preseason. Yes they had virtual ones where they had nutrition and training go over issues with players over video but not the same. Lack of equipment during off season is also reason - having the best training equipment is why Bills invested in facilities. I am sure NFLPA disagrees. They want preseason and training camps reduced as much as possible and they always have. Are you sure? A fair comparison would be the number of injuries in the longer training camp and preseason games compared to the injuries in the 1st two weeks. 6 minutes ago, Chandler#81 said: Are you the long lost, illegitimate son of @Gugny? He’s been claiming it’s all a frame job for years. ’Lil Gigs’ Heh? These professional athletes came into camp with beer bellies and no conditioning this year? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rochesterfan Posted September 21, 2020 Share Posted September 21, 2020 1 hour ago, YoloinOhio said: You think they move on from Darnold if they are picking #1? Or trade the pick for a kings ransom If they don’t take Lawerence and try to trade Darnold - the GM should be fired and I think Douglas is pretty smart. It has nothing to do with production, but contract. If they keep Darnold - they have to pay a true QB salary upper 20 - 35 million per season. With Lawerence you reset the contract to rookie base and have 4 years to build with that rookie deal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridgewaycynic2013 Posted September 21, 2020 Share Posted September 21, 2020 Has Sherlock Holmes taken that online / matchbook cover course on 'massage therapist' yet? I saw the news re: McCaffery and figured SH would have booked a plane to Charlotte. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridgewaycynic2013 Posted September 21, 2020 Share Posted September 21, 2020 1 hour ago, Seasons1992 said: Hopefully the Bills avoid the Injury Fire Swamp this year....... Next time, tell the chef you want 'medium'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Otreply Posted September 21, 2020 Share Posted September 21, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, Limeaid said: IMO the reason for so many injuries is lack of formal training camp and preseason. Yes they had virtual ones where they had nutrition and training go over issues with players over video but not the same. Lack of equipment during off season is also reason - having the best training equipment is why Bills invested in facilities. I am sure NFLPA disagrees. They want preseason and training camps reduced as much as possible and they always have. Training camp and preseason are far more important than what a noisy minority of the fan base thinks, it is utterly stupid to not have a full preseason training regime, to include those four games/scrimmages, the large numbers of injuries are a testament to why those who hot take this issue are just so obviously wrong. Go Bills!!! Edited September 21, 2020 by Don Otreply 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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