A rare touch pass by Allen

[finn]

Did anyone else notice the uncharacteristic pass Allen through t Diggs halfway through the fourth quarter, the one where Diggs took a big hit? Aside from a few incomplete fades into the end zone last year, I can't recall Allen actually lofting a pass instead of rifling it as hard as he can. All last year fans were begging him to put some air under the ball as you see all the great quarterbacks do. Is he finally catching on? That was a beautiful pass, very Mahomes-like. May it continue!

[Kelly the Dog]

He lofts passes all the time. He had another one Sunday toward the end zone to Singletary that was broken up by a Jet on a nice play. The lob was about a yard short imo and a perfect pass MAY have been a TD. But it was a clear loft. 

[GoBills808]

He threw a very similar one to Beasley against the Ravens, except that one was on the run and across his body

[whatdrought]

It was a great pass, very much one that he has struggled with in the past. 

 

He hit one to Duke in the Tenessee game that looked very similar to this - 20+ yards, crossing pattern, dropped it over the outside shoulder. 

 

The narrative that Josh can't make every throw is just lazy. Anyone who has watched him these three years can tell you that he can make every single throw and, it's a problem of consistency. 

Edited September 16, 2020 by whatdrought

[Bangarang]

He had a wonderful throw to Knox last year against NE that almost went for a TD.

 

I also don’t get why you would call it Mahomes-like as if putting air under a deep pass was something exclusive to Mahomes. 

Edited September 16, 2020 by Bangarang

[MJS]

I disagree. He has throws like that all the time.

[Over 29 years of fanhood]

10 minutes ago, finn said:

Did anyone else notice the uncharacteristic pass Allen through t Diggs halfway through the fourth quarter, the one where Diggs took a big hit? Aside from a few incomplete fades into the end zone last year, I can't recall Allen actually lofting a pass instead of rifling it as hard as he can. All last year fans were begging him to put some air under the ball as you see all the great quarterbacks do. Is he finally catching on? That was a beautiful pass, very Mahomes-like. May it continue!

I thought his most impressive touch pass was on a screen while rolling right to Singletary.  It was a basketball shot trajectory, right over some defenders and soft enough Singletary could one hand it in stride.  
 

additional note on Diggs getting hit, Lofton said Brown eased up on his route and started working back to the ball, bringing his DB Along which have the hit. Lofton said had brown taken a few more steps on his route, Diggs wouldn’t have gotten lit up like that. For whatever that’s worth 

[Buffalo Boy]

5 minutes ago, Over 29 years of fanhood said:

I thought his most impressive touch pass was on a screen while rolling right to Singletary.  It was a basketball shot trajectory, right over some defenders and soft enough Singletary could one hand it in stride.  
 

additional note on Diggs getting hit, Lofton said Brown eased up on his route and started working back to the ball, bringing his DB Along which have the hit. Lofton said had brown taken a few more steps on his route, Diggs wouldn’t have gotten lit up like that. For whatever that’s worth 

    It sure looked that way. As Diggs caught the ball Brown was standing a few yards down the sideline from that spot. Play design error or Browns error but it didn’t make sense.

[Jauronimo]

10 minutes ago, Over 29 years of fanhood said:

I thought his most impressive touch pass was on a screen while rolling right to Singletary.  It was a basketball shot trajectory, right over some defenders and soft enough Singletary could one hand it in stride.  
 

additional note on Diggs getting hit, Lofton said Brown eased up on his route and started working back to the ball, bringing his DB Along which have the hit. Lofton said had brown taken a few more steps on his route, Diggs wouldn’t have gotten lit up like that. For whatever that’s worth 

Allen's touch on screen passes impressed me as well.  He has missed a number of swing passes and screens in his first two years.  I think the game is slowing down for him, he's handling his excitement, and he is more confident in taking some speed off the ball now.  Maybe not dealing with an electric crowd is helping him settle into games?

[clearwater cadet]

I wish he would have loft that one to brown in the end zone, but with all that, I think he is getting better.

[clayboy54]

Please share with us more about your anti-Allen agenda.

[Logic]

This can't be true.

I was told by Twitter he was "funny bad" on Sunday.

He overthrew Brown in the end zone, underthrew Beasley in the slot, and fumbled twice.

As far as I know, those were the only plays in which Joshua Allen participated.

[Warcodered]

Didn't he drop a nice one to Knox?

[Kelly the Dog]

1 minute ago, Warcodered said:

Didn't he drop a nice one to Knox?

Yep. That was pretty much a loft or lob touch pass as well. Terrific throw and catch. Knox should be huge this year with all the attention that will be paid to Diggs, Smoke, Beasley.

[AirAllenPower]

He seems to be putting more arc on his throws,  he has worked on his touch. You could tell in camp

[716er]

How about the pass to Singletary in the 3rd or 4th quarter? If Allen lofts it a yard further it's a TD.

 

Does anyone have a replay of that play? I've been looking for it for a couple days now..

1 hour ago, Kelly the Dog said:

He lofts passes all the time. He had another one Sunday toward the end zone to Singletary that was broken up by a Jet on a nice play. The lob was about a yard short imo and a perfect pass MAY have been a TD. But it was a clear loft. 

 

Didn't see this! This is why I should read a thread before posting

Edited September 16, 2020 by 716er

[JESSEFEFFER]

32 minutes ago, Warcodered said:

Didn't he drop a nice one to Knox?

 

Back shoulder and up high where only Knox could make a play.  Dawson seems pretty good on highly contested throws.  It's the ones where he was in the clear but did not know where the nearest defenders were that made a drop more likely.

[eball]

41 minutes ago, Jauronimo said:

Allen's touch on screen passes impressed me as well.  He has missed a number of swing passes and screens in his first two years.  I think the game is slowing down for him, he's handling his excitement, and he is more confident in taking some speed off the ball now.  Maybe not dealing with an electric crowd is helping him settle into games?

 

I've also thought that Josh perhaps is too hyped up at the start.  It looked Sunday as though some of those read options were designed to allow him to take some hits early and get into the flow.

 

Now we just need to figure out what to do to get him a little more pumped after halftime.  His 3rd quarters have been atrocious.

[Jauronimo]

Just now, eball said:

 

I've also thought that Josh perhaps is too hyped up at the start.  It looked Sunday as though some of those read options were designed to allow him to take some hits early and get into the flow.

 

Now we just need to figure out what to do to get him a little more pumped after halftime.  His 3rd quarters have been atrocious.

He has said many times he doesn't settle into a game until he takes his first hit.  I agree on the intent of the early called runs.

[JESSEFEFFER]

1 hour ago, finn said:

Did anyone else notice the uncharacteristic pass Allen through t Diggs halfway through the fourth quarter, the one where Diggs took a big hit? Aside from a few incomplete fades into the end zone last year, I can't recall Allen actually lofting a pass instead of rifling it as hard as he can. All last year fans were begging him to put some air under the ball as you see all the great quarterbacks do. Is he finally catching on? That was a beautiful pass, very Mahomes-like. May it continue!

 

Nice Twitter follow Stathi Papadopoulos provided this:

 

Duke and Stephon Running the Same Route

 

Duke injured his shoulder and Stephon nearly got wrecked.  

 

 

[LABILLBACKER]

1 hour ago, Over 29 years of fanhood said:

I thought his most impressive touch pass was on a screen while rolling right to Singletary.  It was a basketball shot trajectory, right over some defenders and soft enough Singletary could one hand it in stride.  
 

additional note on Diggs getting hit, Lofton said Brown eased up on his route and started working back to the ball, bringing his DB Along which have the hit. Lofton said had brown taken a few more steps on his route, Diggs wouldn’t have gotten lit up like that. For whatever that’s worth 

That hit on Diggs was 100% on smoke cutting his route short allowing his db to light up Stefon. Josh is improving slowly on his touch passes. He now has to work on his accuracy rolling to his left. Hopefully his first deep throw this season has some trajectory on it.

Edited September 16, 2020 by LABILLBACKER

[Rochesterfan]

1 hour ago, finn said:

Did anyone else notice the uncharacteristic pass Allen through t Diggs halfway through the fourth quarter, the one where Diggs took a big hit? Aside from a few incomplete fades into the end zone last year, I can't recall Allen actually lofting a pass instead of rifling it as hard as he can. All last year fans were begging him to put some air under the ball as you see all the great quarterbacks do. Is he finally catching on? That was a beautiful pass, very Mahomes-like. May it continue!

 

No longer uncharacteristic - he threw a bunch last year.  He did struggle in year 1, but by last year he hit a bunch of touch passes - to the point that he lost his touch on deep passes because he worked so hard on the touch type passes.

 

This was old news and it was a great pass to Diggs.

[JESSEFEFFER]

15 minutes ago, LABILLBACKER said:

That hit on Diggs was 100% on smoke cutting his route short allowing his db to light up Stefon. Josh is improving slowly on his touch passes. He now has to work on his accuracy rolling to his left. Hopefully his first deep throw this season has some trajectory on it.

 

i think we will see dome deep shots against the Dolphins in 1 v 1 matchups.  

 

 

[starrymessenger]

I think he did have issues in college and as a rookie with the short passing game. Last two years he has shown that he really can make tough, accurate touch passes not just throw lasers. So, unlike Losman, at least we know that he can do it. Thats pretty much whenever his mechanics are good. When he doesn't set his feet right, especially when on the run, theres no telling where that ball is going.

[zow2]

Josh should be watching Russell Wilson downfield throws on loop.  They have such a nice trajectory and drop down in the bucket.  

 

After one game Josh’s accuracy looks better but it remains to be seen on those 30+yd passes.

[Rk_Bills86]

1 hour ago, JESSEFEFFER said:

 

Back shoulder and up high where only Knox could make a play.  Dawson seems pretty good on highly contested throws.  It's the ones where he was in the clear but did not know where the nearest defenders were that made a drop more likely.

 

Was about to say this was actually my favorite touch pass - due to location, timing, and player selection. Having a TE that teams have to focus on will only open the passing game up more. Even if his routes are just distractions, he's now firmly a weapon - especially if we're going to run exotic plays (by our standards) like TE screens, or direct snap TE end arounds (see the game last year where we did it).

 

The Diggs pass on the other hand - while a touch pass - gave me two different thoughts.....

 

1) Is... Is that what it's like to see a simple cross pattern connect and go for some more yards? I've seen other teams do it, but never though it would happen in B-Lo

2) Good Lord.... Diggs got so much separation - which was something noticeable all game.

[NewEra]

2 hours ago, Kelly the Dog said:

Yep. That was pretty much a loft or lob touch pass as well. Terrific throw and catch. Knox should be huge this year with all the attention that will be paid to Diggs, Smoke, Beasley.

This.  He looked super explosive on that screen.  I was praying some puny jet db would come out of nowhere and get planted.  It’s crazy how much better Diggs makes this entire team.

[Miyagi-Do Karate]

26 minutes ago, zow2 said:

Josh should be watching Russell Wilson downfield throws on loop.  They have such a nice trajectory and drop down in the bucket.  

 

After one game Josh’s accuracy looks better but it remains to be seen on those 30+yd passes.

Not being funny (though you may laugh), but the other guy with nice trajectory is Matt Barkley. He makes up in arm strength with nice touch and loft on his deeper throws. 

[Punching Bag]

4 hours ago, Logic said:

This can't be true.

I was told by Twitter he was "funny bad" on Sunday.

He overthrew Brown in the end zone, underthrew Beasley in the slot, and fumbled twice.

As far as I know, those were the only plays in which Joshua Allen participated.

 

Why do you listen to twits?