JetsFan20 Posted May 8, 2020 Share Posted May 8, 2020 Ralph Wilson Jim Kelly Bruce Smith OJ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJS Posted May 8, 2020 Share Posted May 8, 2020 Jim Kelly Bruce Smith Thurman Thomas Jack Kemp OJ would be up there if he hadn't had ... off the field issues ... 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBillies Posted May 8, 2020 Share Posted May 8, 2020 22 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gugny Posted May 8, 2020 Share Posted May 8, 2020 5 minutes ago, JetsFan20 said: Ralph Wilson Jim Kelly Bruce Smith OJ? Nice one, @Ice bowl 67. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warcodered Posted May 8, 2020 Share Posted May 8, 2020 I mean isn't there an actual wall with names on it. 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GETTOTHE50 Posted May 8, 2020 Share Posted May 8, 2020 Me 4x 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJS Posted May 8, 2020 Share Posted May 8, 2020 2 minutes ago, BuffaloBillies said: If you go by the approximate value index, that's the group right there. https://www.pro-football-reference.com/teams/buf/career-av.htm FYI, Bruce is 8th in the entire NFL in that metric. There's three defenders in the top 10: Bruce Smith, Reggie White, and Ray Lewis. 3 minutes ago, Warcodered said: I mean isn't there an actual wall with names on it. This conversation is about a mountain, not a wall. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg S Posted May 8, 2020 Share Posted May 8, 2020 Bruce, Jim, Andre, Thurman. Ralph needs to be on it as well. Without him their is no Buffalo Bills. 2 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJS Posted May 8, 2020 Share Posted May 8, 2020 1 minute ago, Greg S said: Bruce, Jim, Andre, Thurman. Ralph needs to be on it as well. Without him their is no Buffalo Bills. I don't really like mixing players and coaches and owners all together. Might as well have two mountains. One for players and one for non-players. The non-players would probably be Wilson, Levy, Polian, and Lou Saban? 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg S Posted May 8, 2020 Share Posted May 8, 2020 Just now, MJS said: I don't really like mixing players and coaches and owners all together. Might as well have two mountains. One for players and one for non-players. The non-players would probably be Wilson, Levy, Polian, and Lou Saban? Good point and your choice for owner/GM/coaches(Ralph is a given) is what I would make also. Maybe an argument can be made for Knox. He did a good job. I still think if they could have held on against the Chargers in 1980 divisional round then they probably would have gone all the way that year and played the Eagles in the Super Bowl. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveFreeman22 Posted May 8, 2020 Share Posted May 8, 2020 O.J., Bruce, Jim, Kyle 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LABILLBACKER Posted May 8, 2020 Share Posted May 8, 2020 13 minutes ago, Greg S said: Bruce, Jim, Andre, Thurman. Ralph needs to be on it as well. Without him their is no Buffalo Bills. Only those 5....I agree 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJS Posted May 8, 2020 Share Posted May 8, 2020 1 minute ago, LABILLBACKER said: Only those 5....I agree Can only have 4 though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flip Johnson Posted May 8, 2020 Share Posted May 8, 2020 JK Bruce Thurman Marv 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rico Posted May 8, 2020 Share Posted May 8, 2020 OJ Jimbo Thurman Bruce 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paulus Posted May 8, 2020 Share Posted May 8, 2020 Ezpz OJ Bruce Jim Wilson Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetsFan20 Posted May 8, 2020 Author Share Posted May 8, 2020 I’m not a fan of making a Mt Rushmore totally comprised of one generation. Bruce and Kelly are locks but the other two should go to Ralph and either OJ or Jack Kemp IMO. My Jets Mt Rushmore: Joe Namath Joe Klecko Curtis Martin Darrelle Revis It encompasses the championship 69 team with a very good early 80’s team, late 90’s team, and late 00’s team. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoHuddleKelly12 Posted May 8, 2020 Share Posted May 8, 2020 Does special teams get its own mountain? If so, then I'm going Tasker and Christie (honorable mention, Frank Reich, holder)--but who would round that "3rd phase of the game" group out for us? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetsFan20 Posted May 8, 2020 Author Share Posted May 8, 2020 1 minute ago, NoHuddleKelly12 said: Does special teams get its own mountain? If so, then I'm going Tasker and Christie (honorable mention, Frank Reich, holder)--but who would round that "3rd phase of the game" group out for us? There is only ONE Mountain No Special Teams Mountain/No Front Office/Ownership Mountain/No Coaching Mountains! don’t you bills fans know anything about mt Rushmore’s? 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoHuddleKelly12 Posted May 8, 2020 Share Posted May 8, 2020 8 minutes ago, JetsFan20 said: There is only ONE Mountain No Special Teams Mountain/No Front Office/Ownership Mountain/No Coaching Mountains! don’t you bills fans know anything about mt Rushmore’s? Embarrassment of riches I suppose Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted May 8, 2020 Share Posted May 8, 2020 Bruce Smith Thurman Thomas OJ Simpson Jack Kemp Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALLEN1QB Posted May 8, 2020 Share Posted May 8, 2020 Short list - Flutie 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnBonhamRocks Posted May 8, 2020 Share Posted May 8, 2020 OJ Simpson Jim Kelly Bruce Smith Brian Moorman 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prickly Pete Posted May 8, 2020 Share Posted May 8, 2020 1 hour ago, BuffaloBillies said: Yep. That's it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Motorin' Posted May 8, 2020 Share Posted May 8, 2020 26 minutes ago, Joe in Winslow said: Bruce Smith Thurman Thomas OJ Simpson Jack Kemp As much as us Bills fans put Jimbo on a pedestal, we overestimate his career on the field with our idolization of him... Will anyone be able to live up to the imaginary standard we set? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted May 8, 2020 Share Posted May 8, 2020 1 minute ago, Motorin' said: As much as us Bills fans put Jimbo on a pedestal, we overestimate his career on the field with our idolization of him... Will anyone be able to live up to the imaginary standard we set? I've always been critical of Kelly. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
behind a post WMS69 Posted May 8, 2020 Share Posted May 8, 2020 35 minutes ago, JetsFan20 said: There is only ONE Mountain No Special Teams Mountain/No Front Office/Ownership Mountain/No Coaching Mountains! don’t you bills fans know anything about mt Rushmore’s? Not true. 4 players, for me OJ, JK, Bruce, Thurman. Ralph gets his own, ala Crazy Horse monument. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoHuddleKelly12 Posted May 8, 2020 Share Posted May 8, 2020 9 minutes ago, Joe in Winslow said: I've always been critical of Kelly. I consider you the keepin' it real voice around here when folks such as myself get carried away by the 90's nostalgia... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted May 8, 2020 Share Posted May 8, 2020 1 hour ago, MJS said: Can only have 4 though. We’re gonna need a bigger mountain....... 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Motorin' Posted May 8, 2020 Share Posted May 8, 2020 3 minutes ago, NoHuddleKelly12 said: I consider you the keepin' it real voice around here when folks such as myself get carried away by the 90's nostalgia... It's easy to do... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted May 8, 2020 Share Posted May 8, 2020 5 minutes ago, NoHuddleKelly12 said: I consider you the keepin' it real voice around here when folks such as myself get carried away by the 90's nostalgia... I believe that if the Bills had Marino instead of Kelly they'd have won four superbowls. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brianmoorman4jesus Posted May 8, 2020 Share Posted May 8, 2020 Kelly Bruce OJ Thurman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Brown Posted May 8, 2020 Share Posted May 8, 2020 Can we have six? My deepest apologies to Andre and Kelly. If Kelly willed us to victory in any of the three Super Bowls following the Giants one he'd make the cut. OJ Simpson Jack Kemp Bruce Smith Thurman Thomas 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoHuddleKelly12 Posted May 8, 2020 Share Posted May 8, 2020 (edited) 6 hours ago, Motorin' said: As much as us Bills fans put Jimbo on a pedestal, we overestimate his career on the field with our idolization of him... Will anyone be able to live up to the imaginary standard we set? I for one hope that Josh eclipses Kelly on the field, which in turn would equate to better than...(takes a deep breath) 101-59 regular season record; better than Elway numbers in almost every metric at the time of his retirement [better completion percentage, better average gain per attempt, better touchdown percentage and better passer rating]; 14-8 head to head record against Dan Marino [3-0 in the playoffs]; 23 fourth-quarter comebacks and six other winning drives that broke a fourth-quarter tie. Former Dallas Hall of Famer Roger Staubach, famous for his comeback heroics, also finished his career with 23 fourth-quarter comebacks; https://buffalonews.com/1997/02/12/the-numbers-put-kelly-in-same-tier-with-marino-elway/; pro-football reference has it as 21 4th Q comebacks and 28 game-winning drives https://www.pro-football-reference.com/play-index/comeback.cgi?player=KellJi00 Also, it should be noted that NONE of the following fellow HOF QB's ever made it past Kelly when playing head to head in the playoffs: Marino, Elway, Moon & Montana. I'm happy to dig out more in defense of Jim's pedestal, but my overall point is that we should be so lucky if Allen surpasses Jim's actual on-field metrics, W/L #'s! Edited May 9, 2020 by NoHuddleKelly12 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoHuddleKelly12 Posted May 8, 2020 Share Posted May 8, 2020 38 minutes ago, Joe in Winslow said: I believe that if the Bills had Marino instead of Kelly they'd have won four superbowls. I believe this is the next movie you need to watch when you get a chance, Joe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slippery Rubber Mats Posted May 8, 2020 Share Posted May 8, 2020 OJ Kelly Bruce for sure I'd do Thurman over Marv and Reed personally. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hondo in seattle Posted May 8, 2020 Share Posted May 8, 2020 Ralph OJ Bruce Kelly The Bills wouldn't exist without Ralph. And they wouldn't have remained in Buffalo. OJ is arguably the best running back in NFL history. (He's also a homicidal schmuck so I can see leaving off). Bruce is arguably the best DE ever. Kelly was the leader of the Bills during their greatest era. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldmanfan Posted May 8, 2020 Share Posted May 8, 2020 Billy Shaw Bruce Kelly OJ with a statue of Ralph at the entrance Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freddyjj Posted May 8, 2020 Share Posted May 8, 2020 1 hour ago, JohnBonhamRocks said: OJ Simpson Jim Kelly Bruce Smith Brian Moorman lol - so Billsy - a punter! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freddyjj Posted May 8, 2020 Share Posted May 8, 2020 31 minutes ago, NoHuddleKelly12 said: 48-13 regular season record; Not sure if you are using Kelly's record as Bills QB here. Kelly was 101-59 in regular season in 11 years from 1986-1996. And he went 9-8 in the playoffs as Bills Starter. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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