TC in St. Louis Posted May 4, 2020 Share Posted May 4, 2020 I was driving around doing DoorDash last night, listening to ESPN radio, when the Utah coach came on for an interview. They had 7 guys drafted. When asked about Zach Moss, he said he thought he was the best running back in the draft (of course he would say that). He said he can do everything. Run inside, outside, pass block, catch passes, and he's just a great player. He said he thought he would be a very productive NFL player for the Buffalo Bills. Solid, Pete. Probably not worth its own thread. 4 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Posted May 4, 2020 Share Posted May 4, 2020 It seems like the Zach Moss pick is a very good one, and it was a position of need, but these interviews with the player's former coaches aren't going to be negative. The coach is not going to say Moss is weak at this and that, should do this better, etc. The interviews are always complimentary. Moss should bring power on tough yard situations and am glad he was our third round pick. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scuba guy Posted May 4, 2020 Share Posted May 4, 2020 If he can be half a good as thurmam Thomas it would be great As some will say he already has high miles on the tires 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shaw66 Posted May 4, 2020 Share Posted May 4, 2020 4 minutes ago, Happy said: It seems like the Zach Moss pick is a very good one, and it was a position of need, but these interviews with the player's former coaches aren't going to be negative. The coach is not going to say Moss is weak at this and that, should do this better, etc. The interviews are always complimentary. Moss should bring power on tough yard situations and am glad he was our third round pick. Yeah, but they're fun if your team drafted the guy. Plus, unless the coach is a jerk, he doesn't lie. People generally don't say things they don't believe. He could have said a lot of nice things about Moss without saying "he was the best running back in the draft." He could have said "he was my favorite running back in the draft." He could have said "he's as good as running back in the draft." He could have said "I like him as much as running back in the draft." All of those perfectly complimentary of his former player, offer a lot of praise. But of all the things he could have said, what he chose to say is that Moss was "the best running back in the draft." So sure, it's all coach-speak and fluff, I get that. Still, the guy's words mean something. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TroutDog Posted May 4, 2020 Share Posted May 4, 2020 19 minutes ago, Shaw66 said: Yeah, but they're fun if your team drafted the guy. Plus, unless the coach is a jerk, he doesn't lie. People generally don't say things they don't believe. He could have said a lot of nice things about Moss without saying "he was the best running back in the draft." He could have said "he was my favorite running back in the draft." He could have said "he's as good as running back in the draft." He could have said "I like him as much as running back in the draft." All of those perfectly complimentary of his former player, offer a lot of praise. But of all the things he could have said, what he chose to say is that Moss was "the best running back in the draft." So sure, it's all coach-speak and fluff, I get that. Still, the guy's words mean something. Agreed. So many people are so jaded now and operate from a position of assuming everything is BS. Sad state of affairs. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted May 4, 2020 Share Posted May 4, 2020 Reminds me of Kareem Hunt. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seasons1992 Posted May 4, 2020 Share Posted May 4, 2020 50 minutes ago, scuba guy said: As some will say he already has high miles on the tires I don't care about that; give us the 5 best years of your career initially and if you're done after that, Mr. Beane will handle things appropriately. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TC in St. Louis Posted May 4, 2020 Author Share Posted May 4, 2020 He mentioned that in 2018 Zach led the nation in total yards from scrimmage. That's pretty impressive, right? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Vader Posted May 4, 2020 Share Posted May 4, 2020 21 minutes ago, TC in St. Louis said: He mentioned that in 2018 Zach led the nation in total yards from scrimmage. That's pretty impressive, right? Definitely. Also, you have to give a lot of credit to Utah's coach, Kyle Whittingham, for the Utes being able to produce some very good teams and players during his time there. Utah is not an area where people automatically think of great college football, even with Brigham Young's moment of dominance in the mid 80's, but the Utes have a come a long way and have become a top team in the Pacific 12. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExWNYer Posted May 4, 2020 Share Posted May 4, 2020 2 hours ago, TC in St. Louis said: I was driving around doing DoorDash last night, listening to ESPN radio, when the Utah coach came on for an interview. They had 7 guys drafted. When asked about Zach Moss, he said he thought he was the best running back in the draft (of course he would say that). He said he can do everything. Run inside, outside, pass block, catch passes, and he's just a great player. He said he thought he would be a very productive NFL player for the Buffalo Bills. Solid, Pete. Probably not worth its own thread. You buried the lead... Did people get cold food because you were waiting in your car for Utah's coach to finish his interview? ? 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JESSEFEFFER Posted May 4, 2020 Share Posted May 4, 2020 (edited) It really is (lucky? a head scratcher? puzzling?) how the Bills got him as RB#9 in the draft. I did not pay much attention to him prior to the draft because he was not a top 5 guy anywhere I looked and I wanted a top guy but he was worthy of more scrutiny. Most had him at 6. He is my kind of runner. I liked Robb Riddick in his day and James Conner coming out of Pitt. Very physical, underappreciated runners that challenge a defense in every way except with elite speed which tends not to matter very often. I think he can do more than Devin which is great if true and having the two of them should give OC Daboll more versatility with the running back position than he has ever had before. Rotor and Motor. With all the extra time on our hands, I recommend watching some of his college games. Just watch how he grinds play after play. Very few times is he stuffed. He had a 1 yard TD run (UCLA?) where he beat three tacklers in succession. He has a great spin move ala Texas Twister Kenny Davis that is a very effective ankle breaker. There are a number of PAC-12 DBs that should be happy to see him move on to the NFL. Edited May 4, 2020 by JESSEFEFFER 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris heff Posted May 4, 2020 Share Posted May 4, 2020 2 hours ago, Happy said: It seems like the Zach Moss pick is a very good one, and it was a position of need, but these interviews with the player's former coaches aren't going to be negative. The coach is not going to say Moss is weak at this and that, should do this better, etc. The interviews are always complimentary. Moss should bring power on tough yard situations and am glad he was our third round pick. “Former coaches aren’t going to be negative”? Unless you’re Jimbo Fisher talking about EJ Manuel. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buffalover4life Posted May 4, 2020 Share Posted May 4, 2020 2 hours ago, Buffalo_Stampede said: Reminds me of Kareem Hunt. That was my exact comment to my friends after we drafted him. His running style is more upright, like kareem hunt, similar size and 40 time. The tackles he shrugs off without losing his momentum is really impressive Great balance as well. He is pro ready. Very excited about the Pick 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Posted May 4, 2020 Share Posted May 4, 2020 19 minutes ago, chris heff said: “Former coaches aren’t going to be negative”? Unless you’re Jimbo Fisher talking about EJ Manuel. I don't remember that. What did Jimbo say, if you don't mind? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stuvian Posted May 4, 2020 Share Posted May 4, 2020 3 hours ago, TC in St. Louis said: I was driving around doing DoorDash last night, listening to ESPN radio, when the Utah coach came on for an interview. They had 7 guys drafted. When asked about Zach Moss, he said he thought he was the best running back in the draft (of course he would say that). He said he can do everything. Run inside, outside, pass block, catch passes, and he's just a great player. He said he thought he would be a very productive NFL player for the Buffalo Bills. Solid, Pete. Probably not worth its own thread. kudos to you for keeping the economy going ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted May 4, 2020 Share Posted May 4, 2020 25 minutes ago, chris heff said: “Former coaches aren’t going to be negative”? Unless you’re Jimbo Fisher talking about EJ Manuel. Paterno said he didn't think Maybin was ready for the NFL. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Otreply Posted May 4, 2020 Share Posted May 4, 2020 I watched a YouTube with Zach and the host yesterday, the host had Zach doing film reviews of some of his college games. It appears he is well adept at reading defenses at the line as well the D backs. He explained his concept on how to use his blockers to avoid not only the opponent in front but as well coming laterally from behind. He has a good spin move, knows exactly we’re to place a stiff arm, and use techniques he referred to as an old school leg movement to avoid low tacklers on the D. Really smart kid, knows what he is up to. Excellent pick by Beane, who also knows what he is up to. ?? Go Bills!!! 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TC in St. Louis Posted May 4, 2020 Author Share Posted May 4, 2020 1 hour ago, ExWNYer said: You buried the lead... Did people get cold food because you were waiting in your car for Utah's coach to finish his interview? ? I just sat there and ate a bunch of food...forgot what I was doing. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted May 4, 2020 Share Posted May 4, 2020 Pete Carroll said Mark Sanchez needed to stay another year at USC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maryland-bills-fan Posted May 4, 2020 Share Posted May 4, 2020 I had a top 5 RB list, a lower list of okay players and Moss in between the two groups. I thought we were screwed when we passed over Dobbins (taken next by the Ravens who are swooning over him here in the Baltimore area), because Moss was going to be gone before our next pick, regardless of how much we might move up. Getting him in the third made everything good again. Dobbins and somebody else at #86 is nowhere as good as Espensa and Moss. I think we were damn lucky. I think that a coming thing in the NFL is the small fast running back who is also a legitimate wide receiver. Swift, Helaire and Gipson are such players. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo716 Posted May 4, 2020 Share Posted May 4, 2020 4 hours ago, TC in St. Louis said: He mentioned that in 2018 Zach led the nation in total yards from scrimmage. That's pretty impressive, right? 3 hours ago, Mark Vader said: Definitely. Also, you have to give a lot of credit to Utah's coach, Kyle Whittingham, for the Utes being able to produce some very good teams and players during his time there. Utah is not an area where people automatically think of great college football, even with Brigham Young's moment of dominance in the mid 80's, but the Utes have a come a long way and have become a top team in the Pacific 12. Utah has been a good program for probably 20 years now And I don't think that coach was correct about him leading the nation in yards from scrimmage in 18, that would have been Jonathan Taylor Moss was 11th last year in yards from scrimmage Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freddyjj Posted May 4, 2020 Share Posted May 4, 2020 5 hours ago, TC in St. Louis said: When asked about Zach Moss, Hey he's on the Bills now so let's spell his name correctly please. Zack Moss. Zaccheus Malik Moss is his given name. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan89 Posted May 4, 2020 Share Posted May 4, 2020 Zack Moss was a really solid pick. I think he will be a quality 4.3 to 4.5 ypc between the tackles runner. I think by the end of their first season together Moss and Singletary will be viewed as one of the best young RB duos in the league. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Biscuit97 Posted May 4, 2020 Share Posted May 4, 2020 A college coach likes his own player!!!! Shocking. ? and Moss is a baller. Loved him at Utah. We still lack a home run hitter but it’s a really nice combo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Utah John Posted May 4, 2020 Share Posted May 4, 2020 I got to be a Utah fan while living in Salt Lake City. I love this guy. He plays with the heart of Freddie Jackson. You will love him too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Biscuit97 Posted May 4, 2020 Share Posted May 4, 2020 Just now, Utah John said: I got to be a Utah fan while living in Salt Lake City. I love this guy. He plays with the heart of Freddie Jackson. You will love him too. I thought you were from Arizona? ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JESSEFEFFER Posted May 4, 2020 Share Posted May 4, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, maryland-bills-fan said: I had a top 5 RB list, a lower list of okay players and Moss in between the two groups. I thought we were screwed when we passed over Dobbins (taken next by the Ravens who are swooning over him here in the Baltimore area), because Moss was going to be gone before our next pick, regardless of how much we might move up. Getting him in the third made everything good again. Dobbins and somebody else at #86 is nowhere as good as Espensa and Moss. I think we were damn lucky. I think that a coming thing in the NFL is the small fast running back who is also a legitimate wide receiver. Swift, Helaire and Gipson are such players. I can see why Beane was so anxious that he was willing to proactively trade up to prevent some other team from doing so. Gipson is more of a gadget RB/WR that doesn't run between the tackles and is more WR we were told. He is pretty tall to be a between the tackles runner. The other two taken, Dillon and Vaughn, are lesser talents at this time. Moss has shown much more as an all-around player. If we had the typical war room video of the draft, I bet we would have seen lots of smiles, high fives and back slaps after pick #85 was made. Lucky indeed. Edited May 4, 2020 by JESSEFEFFER 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maryland-bills-fan Posted May 4, 2020 Share Posted May 4, 2020 (As I said before the dual WR/RB may be the coming thing,, but) What I want to see is if this kid could do the things that T.Thomas used to do. The Bills hike the ball to Kelly in the shotgun. 3 WR and a TE. The OLine sets up in pass blocking and the waltz partners push around while Jimbo drops back and looks downfield. TT helps block somebody and the saunders a few yards deeper than the LOS. He talks to the linebacker: "Hey, do you guys have submarine sandwiches in the locker room at halftime?" "Shut up, I'm busy now" is the reply" from the linebacker. Kelly lobs a 6 yard pass and TT takes it 23 yards for much more. That is what I want to see from Moss this coming year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Utah John Posted May 4, 2020 Share Posted May 4, 2020 49 minutes ago, C.Biscuit97 said: I thought you were from Arizona? ? Nope. I've lived in 9 states, but never Arizona. In Alaska now. I kept my online name. I was John in CA, then John in VA, then Utah John. Grew up in West Seneca and WNY is still home. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted May 4, 2020 Share Posted May 4, 2020 I just love that we were able to use a 3rd round pick to get a quality player like that......again That is 2 running backs in the 3rd round......we know Devin S. has got it and hopefully Moss does as well......allowing us to use our top 2 picks on Diggs and AJ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CSBill Posted May 5, 2020 Share Posted May 5, 2020 15 hours ago, Buffalo_Stampede said: Paterno said he didn't think Maybin was ready for the NFL. Both the Bills and Aaron should have listened him. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CapeBreton Posted May 5, 2020 Share Posted May 5, 2020 I think Moss will turn our way better than Dillon and Vaughn who went ahead of him. Same as us getting Singletary in 2019 after David Montgomery and Darrell Henderson went before us lol. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris heff Posted May 5, 2020 Share Posted May 5, 2020 21 hours ago, Happy said: I don't remember that. What did Jimbo say, if you don't mind? I can’t remember exactly, but it was something to the effect that he told everyone that EJ would not be a successful QB in the NFL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Posted May 5, 2020 Share Posted May 5, 2020 1 hour ago, chris heff said: I can’t remember exactly, but it was something to the effect that he told everyone that EJ would not be a successful QB in the NFL. Well, he was right. Buffalo was definitely not the right environment for EJ, who had no chance of succeeding here, especially as a starter. I'm a little surprised at the number of coaches who warned on their former players as you and others in this thread have pointed out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsCelticsAngelsBama Posted May 5, 2020 Share Posted May 5, 2020 23 hours ago, TC in St. Louis said: I just sat there and ate a bunch of food...forgot what I was doing. ???. On 5/4/2020 at 9:01 AM, ExWNYer said: You buried the lead... Did people get cold food because you were waiting in your car for Utah's coach to finish his interview? ? ??? My laughing at this needed it's own beyond the normal reaction choices. ?? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted May 5, 2020 Share Posted May 5, 2020 On 5/4/2020 at 10:42 AM, Buffalo_Stampede said: Reminds me of Kareem Hunt. And without the extra curricular activities... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Barbarian Posted May 6, 2020 Share Posted May 6, 2020 On 5/4/2020 at 9:55 AM, TC in St. Louis said: I was driving around doing DoorDash last night, listening to ESPN radio, when the Utah coach came on for an interview. They had 7 guys drafted. When asked about Zach Moss, he said he thought he was the best running back in the draft (of course he would say that). He said he can do everything. Run inside, outside, pass block, catch passes, and he's just a great player. He said he thought he would be a very productive NFL player for the Buffalo Bills. Solid, Pete. Probably not worth its own thread. Clyde Edwards was the best but im happy with Beastmode Jr. What is door dash? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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