turftoe Posted April 23, 2020 Share Posted April 23, 2020 Ok, time to go out on a limb here. NE trades up to #3 and picks a QB. They have very close ties to GM Quinn who was in their organization for 15 years and also to Patricia. I could see Joe Thuney or Edelman as part of a deal with multiple picks. Since Saban loves Tua and is tight with Belichick, Tua would likely be the target. I hope it doesn't happen but it makes a lot of sense to me. Flame away. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted April 23, 2020 Share Posted April 23, 2020 New England doesn’t have the firepower get to 3. Miami is the team likely to go to 3. I could see the Chargers doing it too. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turftoe Posted April 23, 2020 Author Share Posted April 23, 2020 1 minute ago, Kirby Jackson said: New England doesn’t have the firepower get to 3. Miami is the team likely to go to 3. I could see the Chargers doing it too. I mentioned players as part of the deal besides picks. Patricia and possibly Quinn are up against it for their jobs. Getting established players that can contribute now may be more appealing than picks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PetermansRedemption Posted April 23, 2020 Share Posted April 23, 2020 3 minutes ago, turftoe said: I mentioned players as part of the deal besides picks. Patricia and possibly Quinn are up against it for their jobs. Getting established players that can contribute now may be more appealing than picks. Trading away a premium pick for peanuts would likely accelerate the loss of their job. They would need Thuney, Gilmore, 2020 1st, 2nd and 2021 1st. That might get it done. Doesn’t leave New England with much of a team though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Vader Posted April 23, 2020 Share Posted April 23, 2020 49'ers draft Justin Herbert. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Brown Posted April 23, 2020 Share Posted April 23, 2020 Chargers move up for Tua in trade with Lions (or Giants). Herbert drops all the way down to #18 and Miami takes him there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TPS Posted April 23, 2020 Share Posted April 23, 2020 Tagging along with this one, 4 QBs go in the top 10. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloHokie13 Posted April 23, 2020 Share Posted April 23, 2020 Raiders trade 12, 19, and 80 to the Panthers for 7 and 38. They select a sliding Jeff Okudah at 7. Eagles trade 21 and 53 to the 49ers for pick 13 and select CeeDee Lamb. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted April 23, 2020 Share Posted April 23, 2020 (edited) 23 minutes ago, turftoe said: I mentioned players as part of the deal besides picks. Patricia and possibly Quinn are up against it for their jobs. Getting established players that can contribute now may be more appealing than picks. This guys aren’t nearly enough. We’d be looking at Gilmore, Thuney, 23 and a 2nd or something like that to start. Miami’s package has so much more value otherwise. Edited April 23, 2020 by Kirby Jackson Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebandit27 Posted April 23, 2020 Share Posted April 23, 2020 Jonathan Taylor goes top-15 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted April 23, 2020 Share Posted April 23, 2020 Bold huh? Andrew Thomas is the 1st OL off the board at 4 to the Giants. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rc2catch Posted April 23, 2020 Share Posted April 23, 2020 (edited) I’m gonna say Washington trades out of 2 with Miami. Just for fun I don’t want the dolphins loading up and possibly hitting on all those first rounders. I’m not as scared of Tua in Miami as I would be with 3 solid rookies the next 5 years. Edited April 23, 2020 by Rc2catch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paup 1995MVP Posted April 23, 2020 Share Posted April 23, 2020 29 minutes ago, turftoe said: Ok, time to go out on a limb here. NE trades up to #3 and picks a QB. They have very close ties to GM Quinn who was in their organization for 15 years and also to Patricia. I could see Joe Thuney or Edelman as part of a deal with multiple picks. Since Saban loves Tua and is tight with Belichick, Tua would likely be the target. I hope it doesn't happen but it makes a lot of sense to me. Flame away. Saban loved John Parker Wilson, Greg McElroy, AJ McCarron and Jalen Hurts as well. If he doesn't really like you, you are not seeing the field at Bama. What makes everyone think that Tua is a generational talent? Maybe its his name. Has a cool Samoan ring to it. Why is noone talking up Joe Burrow on here? He had an amazing season. Its all Tua Tua Tua. Belichick may actually like Jared Stidham and give him the keys this year. Do you think Tua has more potential then Jared Goff or Carson Wentz? I would like to hear some response to that? Curious.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IgotBILLStopay Posted April 23, 2020 Share Posted April 23, 2020 Teams trading up - Miami, New England, Atlanta, New Orleans Saints, maybe LA Chargers Teams Trading Down - Detroit, NYG, SF, Seattle Second QB taken - Tua First RB taken - Swift Mims, Aiyuk and Jefferson go before Higgins minimum of 6 O linemen taken in round 1 Three most popular positions in round 1 - WR, OL, CB! Surprise Round 1 picks - Isiah Wilson, Ross Blacklock, Jordyn Brooks, Jaylon Johnson Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
purple haze Posted April 23, 2020 Share Posted April 23, 2020 Tua will be drafted before Herbert. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seasons1992 Posted April 23, 2020 Share Posted April 23, 2020 (edited) Beane doesn't do a damn thing and we aren't mentioned tonight. That's anti-Beane, but I think that's what's gonna happen. The only craziness would be if he moves up to #2 and sends the message that we have 2-3 years to win a SB before it's all torn down again. Edited April 23, 2020 by Seasons1992 Grammar error Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted April 23, 2020 Share Posted April 23, 2020 ESPN won't go to commercial at the Bills' pick. 2 7 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LittleSammy Posted April 23, 2020 Share Posted April 23, 2020 37 minutes ago, turftoe said: Ok, time to go out on a limb here. NE trades up to #3 and picks a QB. They have very close ties to GM Quinn who was in their organization for 15 years and also to Patricia. I could see Joe Thuney or Edelman as part of a deal with multiple picks. Since Saban loves Tua and is tight with Belichick, Tua would likely be the target. I hope it doesn't happen but it makes a lot of sense to me. Flame away. I wouldn't put this past the Lions. The Lions have been the benchmark of organizational ineptitude within the NFL for years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ny33 Posted April 23, 2020 Share Posted April 23, 2020 Jaylon Johnson goes in the 1st. Aiyuk goes in the top 20. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whatdrought Posted April 23, 2020 Share Posted April 23, 2020 4 minutes ago, Seasons1992 said: Beane doesn't do a damn thing and we aren't mentioned tonight. That's anti-Beane, but I think that's what's gonna happen. The only craziness would be if he moves up to #2 and sends the message that we have 2-3 years to win a SB before it's all torn down again. this doesn't seem bold to me... This is pretty much exactly what I expect to happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark80 Posted April 23, 2020 Share Posted April 23, 2020 Justin Herbert is 4th QB taken. Burrow, Tua, and Love ahead of him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fan in Chicago Posted April 23, 2020 Share Posted April 23, 2020 15 minutes ago, Doc said: ESPN won't go to commercial at the Bills' pick. Bills have a first round pick? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KD in CA Posted April 23, 2020 Share Posted April 23, 2020 19 minutes ago, Seasons1992 said: Beane doesn't do a damn thing and we aren't mentioned tonight. That's anti-Beane, but I think that's what's gonna happen. The only craziness would be if he moves up to #2 and sends the message that we have 2-3 years to win a SB before it's all torn down again. Let's hope so. I have no interest in spending any top picks from the 2021 draft tonight. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whatdrought Posted April 23, 2020 Share Posted April 23, 2020 Not sure how Bold, but DJ's mock last night was the first time I've seen this even though it seems pretty obvious to me: The Bucs will take a WR with the 14th pick. I don't expect one of the elite T's to be there at 14, so instead of settling they will grab Jeudy, Ruggs, or Lamb (whichever is left) to give that last piece to their offense. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HappyDays Posted April 23, 2020 Share Posted April 23, 2020 The only 2 teams to trade up will be Atlanta and Philly. Everyone else will stay where they are. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turftoe Posted April 23, 2020 Author Share Posted April 23, 2020 40 minutes ago, Paup 1995MVP said: Saban loved John Parker Wilson, Greg McElroy, AJ McCarron and Jalen Hurts as well. If he doesn't really like you, you are not seeing the field at Bama. What makes everyone think that Tua is a generational talent? Maybe its his name. Has a cool Samoan ring to it. Why is noone talking up Joe Burrow on here? He had an amazing season. Its all Tua Tua Tua. Belichick may actually like Jared Stidham and give him the keys this year. Do you think Tua has more potential then Jared Goff or Carson Wentz? I would like to hear some response to that? Curious.... You are right that Saban wouldn't play a QB he didn't like. He recently came out and said that if teams pass on Tua for medical reasons, they would be making the same mistake that he made with the Dolphins regarding Drew Brees. Tua is leap years better than the QBs you mentioned. I think Belichick is going to listen to Saben. It's just a bold prediction to fire up the draft juices. 3 minutes ago, HappyDays said: The only 2 teams to trade up will be Atlanta and Philly. Everyone else will stay where they are. I could see Cleveland trading down, especially if they trade for Trent Williams. Their top need is OT. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turftoe Posted April 23, 2020 Author Share Posted April 23, 2020 1 hour ago, Kirby Jackson said: This guys aren’t nearly enough. We’d be looking at Gilmore, Thuney, 23 and a 2nd or something like that to start. Miami’s package has so much more value otherwise. I doubt they would let Gilmore go. #23 plus Thuney plus Edelman plus next years first. They also have 3-3rd rounders and 2-4ths this year. NE and Detroit have made several trades the past two years and I think there is something to GMs/Teams having a level of comfort with each other, especially for a big trade such as this. It's just my bold prediction on draft day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted April 23, 2020 Share Posted April 23, 2020 2 minutes ago, turftoe said: I doubt they would let Gilmore go. #23 plus Thuney plus Edelman plus next years first. They also have 3-3rd rounders and 2-4ths this year. NE and Detroit have made several trades the past two years and I think there is something to GMs/Teams having a level of comfort with each other, especially for a big trade such as this. It's just my bold prediction on draft day. Say Thuney has the value of a 2nd and Edelman a 4th. Next year’s first is the equivalent of a 2nd in the draft value chart. They are about a 1st round pick (minimum) short still. Gilmore HAS to be a part of the package or it can’t happen. Now maybe they can get into the teens with package but not to 3. Gilmore, Thuney, 23 and a 2021 2nd probably gets it done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HappyDays Posted April 23, 2020 Share Posted April 23, 2020 22 minutes ago, turftoe said: I could see Cleveland trading down, especially if they trade for Trent Williams. Their top need is OT. It's weird to me that players like Ngakoue and Williams haven't been traded yet. I cant imagine teams will want to part with 2021 picks until they know how the season will be played. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Putin Posted April 23, 2020 Share Posted April 23, 2020 1 hour ago, PetermansRedemption said: Trading away a premium pick for peanuts would likely accelerate the loss of their job. They would need Thuney, Gilmore, 2020 1st, 2nd and 2021 1st. That might get it done. Doesn’t leave New England with much of a team though. That still won’t get it done ( IMO ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbfla10 Posted April 23, 2020 Share Posted April 23, 2020 Trevon Diggs is drafted in the top 20.. Long lengthy DB, good size with great ball skills. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted April 23, 2020 Share Posted April 23, 2020 When is Mayocks Mock??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turftoe Posted April 23, 2020 Author Share Posted April 23, 2020 17 minutes ago, Kirby Jackson said: Say Thuney has the value of a 2nd and Edelman a 4th. Next year’s first is the equivalent of a 2nd in the draft value chart. They are about a 1st round pick (minimum) short still. Gilmore HAS to be a part of the package or it can’t happen. Now maybe they can get into the teens with package but not to 3. Gilmore, Thuney, 23 and a 2021 2nd probably gets it done. Your probably right. NE would probably have a stipulation that the trade doesn't happen until they are on the clock. That way Miami wouldn't have the urgency to try to get to #2. Maybe Detroit traded Darius Slay knowing Gilmore was part of the deal. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloHokie13 Posted April 23, 2020 Share Posted April 23, 2020 1 minute ago, MAJBobby said: When is Mayocks Mock??? I think Gruden would get pretty pissed if he published it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CEN-CAL17 Posted April 23, 2020 Share Posted April 23, 2020 Chase Claypool goes round 1 to Green Bay! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turftoe Posted April 23, 2020 Author Share Posted April 23, 2020 21 minutes ago, HappyDays said: It's weird to me that players like Ngakoue and Williams haven't been traded yet. I cant imagine teams will want to part with 2021 picks until they know how the season will be played. They can't get a team physical before the draft. That might be a factor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrober38 Posted April 23, 2020 Share Posted April 23, 2020 1 hour ago, turftoe said: I mentioned players as part of the deal besides picks. Patricia and possibly Quinn are up against it for their jobs. Getting established players that can contribute now may be more appealing than picks. I think the issue is that player over 30 in the NFL are mostly worthless. The guys you mentioned aren't worth anything more than late round picks, so to make that move New England might have to trade like 3 first and 3 seconds to get up that high. If it was going to happen, New England would already need to have traded into the teens. The late 20s is way too distant a jump off point to move all the way into the top 5. I think the board will come to them at QB and they'll be able to get the guy they want if they go that route in the 10-15 range and save a massive amount of draft capital. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CEN-CAL17 Posted April 23, 2020 Share Posted April 23, 2020 (edited) Some how and some way Roger Goodell still gets booooo’d!!!!!! Edited April 23, 2020 by CEN-CAL17 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gobills404 Posted April 23, 2020 Share Posted April 23, 2020 2 minutes ago, CEN-CAL17 said: Chase Claypool goes round 1 to Green Bay! I'm gonna counter your hot take with my own hot take. Chase Claypool doesn't get drafted until Saturday Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turftoe Posted April 23, 2020 Author Share Posted April 23, 2020 3 minutes ago, BuffaloHokie13 said: I think Gruden would get pretty pissed if he published it Unless it was all misinformation. Speaking of Gruden, I found this to be hilarious. Gruden Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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