C.Biscuit97 Posted April 21, 2020 Share Posted April 21, 2020 2 hours ago, Rc2catch said: I don’t understand why they would have to get rid of Howard. Gronk, Howard and Brate is a pretty fantastic group of tight ends for a quarterback that knows how to use them. On top of the fact you can’t count on a healthy gronk 16 games. Be silly to trade him it’s not like his contract is big or his value is high right now. It makes zero sense. If anything, they should trade Brate. He’s at his ceiling and has maximized his trade value. You are selling really low on Howard. But there are a lot of dumb nfl GMs. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt_In_NH Posted April 21, 2020 Share Posted April 21, 2020 He's been a disapointment in the receiving game vs his supposed potential. How has his blocking been? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrEpsYtown Posted April 21, 2020 Share Posted April 21, 2020 37 minutes ago, Doc said: It's possible but I don't know. Not sure what made him decide to come out (too) early. Yeah it was weird. He annnounced he was staying and then pulled a 180 out of nowhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gjv001 Posted April 21, 2020 Share Posted April 21, 2020 Howard would be an upgrade over at least one TE on our roster. But if we can only trade for one new player, I would like it to be Fournette. He’s the perfect power back compliment to Motor. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Biscuit97 Posted April 21, 2020 Share Posted April 21, 2020 7 minutes ago, mattynh said: He's been a disapointment in the receiving game vs his supposed potential. How has his blocking been? But there are many factors why this could be. Arians runs an offense that doesn’t use TEs. They have a lot of weapons and Winston likes Brate. talent wise, he is as talented as TE in the nfl. You acquire talent guys who have no character issues for low draft picks and hope the light turns on. This was the case with Jerry Hughes. There is not TE in this draft that as good as Howard available in the 4th. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frogger Posted April 21, 2020 Share Posted April 21, 2020 2020 5th and conditional 2021. Howard is a good blocking TE, with decent receiving abilities. Good compliment to Knox. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFanForever19 Posted April 21, 2020 Share Posted April 21, 2020 Source who spoke regarding Fournette said the Bills are "100% focused on the draft". I think players like Howard and Fournette are more likely to be moved during or immediately following the draft than before. At this point, I think Beane and most teams would like to see how the board falls before swinging a deal for a vet. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steptide Posted April 21, 2020 Share Posted April 21, 2020 2 hours ago, DFT said: You don’t give up on an ultra athletic, generational tight end talent like Lee Smith, who’s just about ready to peak!!!! 32 is the age where tight ends begin to shine! It’s science.... Ya, plus he's a hall of fame when it comes to false starts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloHokie13 Posted April 21, 2020 Share Posted April 21, 2020 Hard Pass. Our group is underwhelming, sure, but if Knox does some climbing to up his grip strength we're actually pretty solid as is. No need to waste assets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
That's No Moon Posted April 21, 2020 Share Posted April 21, 2020 Howard is an excellent athlete who didn't produce in college and hasn't produced in the NFL. No thank you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColoradoBills Posted April 21, 2020 Share Posted April 21, 2020 33 minutes ago, BillsFanForever19 said: Source who spoke regarding Fournette said the Bills are "100% focused on the draft". I think players like Howard and Fournette are more likely to be moved during or immediately following the draft than before. At this point, I think Beane and most teams would like to see how the board falls before swinging a deal for a vet. yes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
machine gun kelly Posted April 22, 2020 Share Posted April 22, 2020 I like Fournette and Howard on our team, but understand if we wait to see if they are cut. Fournette is a great compliment to Singletary, and Howard is far better than Smith or Kroft. I don’t see much savings if we cut those TE’s, but from a talent standpoint, it’s an upgrade. Fournette is a cap friendly deal and a late pick or just draft someone. They are not just haves, but upgrades over our current talent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo03 Posted April 22, 2020 Share Posted April 22, 2020 Honestly, I think they might just outright release him with Gronk there now. He hasn't quite lived up to his draft position. He's a monster freak athlete but in 3 seasons hasn't quite put it together yet. Mabe part of that is Jameis Winston though, I don't know Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Formerly Allan in MD Posted April 22, 2020 Share Posted April 22, 2020 3 hours ago, IgotBILLStopay said: Cut Lee Smith and make him an asst. coach. this is the year we have an out on his contract - will save on cap - 2 mill that will more than pay OJ Howard's salary Right, he could become the Offside Technique Coach. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
familykwi Posted April 22, 2020 Share Posted April 22, 2020 OJ Howard will NOT be available. For any reason you think that we should claim him, they should keep him esp. w/Gronk's injury history Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Florida Bills Fanatic Posted April 22, 2020 Share Posted April 22, 2020 I don't believe that TE changes are even on Beane's radar. Howard would be an upgrade but I doubt that he is headed to Buffalo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted April 22, 2020 Share Posted April 22, 2020 I'd rather give Knox a chance first. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikemac2001 Posted April 22, 2020 Share Posted April 22, 2020 25 minutes ago, Doc said: I'd rather give Knox a chance first. you can still give Knox a chance and you can give Howard chances and Kroft chances and Sweeney chances best man wins 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted April 22, 2020 Share Posted April 22, 2020 (edited) How much do they want for him? And why didn't Belichick get him in trade for Gronk? Ben Watson was their leading TE last year with 17 catches for 173 yards...and he retired (again). Not to mention this is a lousy draft for TEs. Edited April 22, 2020 by Doc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ethan in Cleveland Posted April 22, 2020 Share Posted April 22, 2020 6 hours ago, NewEra said: Much rather have Brate. He’s better and is on a decent contract for the next few years. He and Knox would be a nice pairing imo. He’s what everyone hopes Sweeney might become if everything works out perfectly for him. I’ll take the sure thing for 6-7 mill i’d really only want to trade a 5th or lower. Because Arians system doesn’t really utilize tight ends as it is. Now he has 3. Why not trade the guy that sat the bench all last season and is due to leave after the upcoming season I read today that Howard played twice as many snaps as Brate did, but Brate is almost exclusively used in pass patterns. I still like Howard a lot. Bills are fine at TE. I think Knox is going to be great this year. Howard is a capable blocker that would allow them to cut Lee Smith. I'd trade 4th and 5rh/6th draft picks respectively for Fournette and Howard and go all in this year. Use 2nd and 3rd on edge rushers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4merper4mer Posted April 22, 2020 Share Posted April 22, 2020 (edited) Is a TE allowed to wear 32? That would be cool. Sorry Sinorice. Edited April 22, 2020 by 4merper4mer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akcash Posted April 22, 2020 Share Posted April 22, 2020 (edited) I know I wanted him out of college. From what I'm reading I think I still would like him on the team. I think his value has gone down on a technicallity from what I'm reading. I could be wrong. It seemed like other teams fans was saying "if they used him right." I haven't read any Bucs fans saying that and so I haven't researched it at all either. To me fair compensation seems like a 3rd or a 4th and maybe another later pick conservatively. Just by pure raw talent and the fact that he'd be the 4th option for 2 years on a cheap contract? Uh yeah I'd like some of that. Red Zone TD's would justify it alone. Edited April 22, 2020 by akcash Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBillsGospel Posted April 22, 2020 Share Posted April 22, 2020 They're replacing Howard with a 31 year old with not much left in the tank. I'm going to say no imo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paup 1995MVP Posted April 22, 2020 Share Posted April 22, 2020 8 hours ago, Mike in Horseheads said: I say we go after Howard and Fournette and push our stacks all in on this season. Maybe a 4th for Fournette and a 5th for Howard? That's a gangbusters move!! Two players who have definitely not lived up to their potential. But both great athletes, who have high ceilings. I think they upgrade the offense a good amount where all you need is one WR and an edge rusher with our first two picks. And use the last 3 to hit on a couple undervalued talents at the best position available.. (all you guys who think we need to draft another corner high. we could draft three in the last two rounds just to make you all happy) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LABILLBACKER Posted April 22, 2020 Share Posted April 22, 2020 The Bills have never stressed a dominant TE group. And this year will be no different. I would be shocked to see McB go after him. Still like to see Smith cut doubtful that happens either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paulus Posted April 22, 2020 Share Posted April 22, 2020 Howard=Hernandez Please stop hurting me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Barbarian Posted April 22, 2020 Share Posted April 22, 2020 Bum, no thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dma0034 Posted April 22, 2020 Share Posted April 22, 2020 The Bucs will probably use tlan offense similar to the Pats when they had the two TEs. Evans, Gronk, Howard and Godwin on the field together would be difficult to stop. Imagine if the Bucs some how got Edelman to use as their slot receiver. Offense would go as far. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
machine gun kelly Posted April 22, 2020 Share Posted April 22, 2020 8 hours ago, Buffalo03 said: Honestly, I think they might just outright release him with Gronk there now. He hasn't quite lived up to his draft position. He's a monster freak athlete but in 3 seasons hasn't quite put it together yet. Mabe part of that is Jameis Winston though, I don't know Winston was lasered in on Evans and Godwin. Having watched a ton of Bucs games, Winston had tunnel vision. Fitz when here distributed much more liberally to the entire offense. As I mentioned Howard is a definite upgrade over Kroft and Smith combined, but neither would help against the cap. Too bad as he could help us as another win. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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