Reports that the Virtual Mock NFL Draft Test didn't go to well

[BillsfaninSB]

Another reason to trade for Diggs.  The Bills will not be a part of the possible 1st day chit show. 

[CuseBill]

48 minutes ago, Seasons1992 said:

I go try to work from my ex's house where she's about 3 levels below my service speed

Is that why she is your ex?  Because she's 3 levels below your service speed?

[Gugny]

1 hour ago, MAJBobby said:

 

 

 

 

@YoloinOhio !!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Tesla03]

These are billion dollar sports organizations 

 

your telling me they can’t set up their employees with top end routers and internet access at their homes? Lol

 

there are 14 year old gamers out there who probably have better internet speeds 

[LabattBlue]

This is all overblown.  The entire draft could be conducted with landlines and cell phones. Is it really important that the HC, GM and scouts of any team see each other via some

video conferencing software?  Do trades take place between teams over video and wifi?

 

 

If I was Beane I’d be glad for no video so I wouldn’t have Terry Pegula staring at me with that goofy look for 3 days. 

 

 

C’mon man!

Edited April 21, 2020 by LabattBlue

[Seasons1992]

34 minutes ago, jimmy10 said:

Well, there’s your problem right there. 

 

We're on great terms, so it's great all around. But yeah, her internet blows.

1 minute ago, LabattBlue said:

This is all overblown.  The entire draft could be conducted with landlines and cell phones. Is it really important that the HC, GM and scouts of any team see each other via some

video conferencing software?  Do trades take place between teams over video and wifi?

 

 

C’mon man!

 

 

This is the most important TV show in the history of mankind, right now. They gotta give us something!!!

17 minutes ago, CuseBill said:

Is that why she is your ex?  Because she's 3 levels below your service speed?

 

Let's go with that, yes...................

[CountDorkula]

1 hour ago, That's No Moon said:

Millions of people manage to draft fantasy football teams online every year. This isn't really that complex.

I hope this was in jest because

No one is trying to hack your draft,

you don't have 31 other people online at the same time trying to make trades while talking to your scouting departments.

 

This Complexities of this are insane.

30 minutes ago, thenorthremembers said:

100% right.  If you cant figure out how to draft using a laptop you shouldnt be running a multi million dollar franchise.   Also, maybe your wife doesn't vacuum near the cords?  Unless she utterly hates you vacuuming can wait a few hours.

 

because drafting a fantasy team is much like running an NFL franchise.

 

Oh damn my team sucked this year im out 100 bucks.

Vs

oh damn my first round pick was a bust potentially setting my franschise back years and being out millions

[billsfan89]

1 hour ago, CaptnCoke11 said:

I think it’s ridiculous they can’t use the team facilities for this..

 

Fully agree, they should be able to have 5 or 6 people in a big room without compromising any public health or employee health. This virtual draft is going to be a ***** show. 

[1st Ammendment NoMas]

1 hour ago, CaptnCoke11 said:

I think it’s ridiculous they can’t use the team facilities for this..

DITTO. They should allow the draft room inside the facility. Make sure everyone is tested and let them work together.  WTF! Too much censorship, bs and restrictions from totalitarian assclowns running the show.

[Mr. WEO]

I heard there was a delay in the 1st pick because the Bengals just could not run to the podium fast enough to pick Burrow.

[aristocrat]

any pictures of beane's set up at his house?

[Buffalo716]

1 hour ago, aristocrat said:

 

this is a very underrated post. i honestly hadnt thought of that. 

fantasy football owners don't have to communicate with a staff of scouts and pro personnel while on the clock, potentially a thousand miles away from each others, arguing over a prospect

 

It's always easier just to talk face-to-face

[Mr. WEO]

1 hour ago, MAJBobby said:

Also this was interesting from Beane a week or so ago..

 

Recently speaking with Mike Florio of Pro Football Talk, Buffalo Bills general manager Brandon Beane supported a potential solution to this problem, proposed by Pittsburgh Steelers general manager Kevin Colbert, where the traditional seven-round draft would be expanded to 10 rounds.

Each year after the draft, teams suddenly become the ones pitching to prospects as those who don't get selected become free agents, getting to sign anywhere they prefer.

 

With team facilities closed and front office members, coaches, and scouts only connected online or over the phone, this process becomes quite a challenge.

"When you’re doing free agency like that after the seventh round, you’ve got everybody still in your draft room or at least down the hall,” Beane told Florio. “Now, trying to communicate because you only have so many dollars that you can allocate from a bonus and so lot of times you have several deals going. Once you agree to one, you’ve got to pull out of the others. If you’re chasing three tackles hoping to land one. If you’ve offered $15,000 to one and maybe you’re talking $12,000 to the other, but you don’t want them both. Once you get one in the boat, you’ve got to back out on the other. It’s a moving target. I think that will be an obstacle for all teams as we work through it remotely.”

 

Video meetings among far more people at a time are happening everywhere every day.

 

There's nothing that should make this such a problem.

[MAJBobby]

Just now, Mr. WEO said:

 

Video meetings among far more people at a time are happening everywhere every day.

 

There's nothing that should make this such a problem.

 

It is just the same thing that happens all over with people that are set in their ways Change is scary and will cause all types of problems in their minds.

[Mr. WEO]

1 minute ago, MAJBobby said:

 

It is just the same thing that happens all over with people that are set in their ways Change is scary and will cause all types of problems in their minds.

 

Like: "i'd rather go walk down the hall to talk to our cap guy than simply look at his face live on the screen and ask him."  LOL

[Call_Of_Ktulu]

4 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said:

 

Video meetings among far more people at a time are happening everywhere every day.

 

There's nothing that should make this such a problem.

We have a meeting everyday on Skype with over 50 people with zero issues for about a month now. The NFL is funny.

[Mr. WEO]

4 minutes ago, Call_Of_Ktulu said:

We have a meeting everyday on Skype with over 50 people with zero issues for about a month now. The NFL is funny.

 

 

Exactly.  Yet no one should ever question the intelligence of any NFL FO!!

[thenorthremembers]

33 minutes ago, CountDorkula said:

I hope this was in jest because

No one is trying to hack your draft,

you don't have 31 other people online at the same time trying to make trades while talking to your scouting departments.

 

This Complexities of this are insane.

 

because drafting a fantasy team is much like running an NFL franchise.

 

Oh damn my team sucked this year im out 100 bucks.

Vs

oh damn my first round pick was a bust potentially setting my franschise back years and being out millions

Not at all saying the consequences of failing at it were the same.  The comparison wasnt saying fantasy football is the same as real football, the comparison was more based around the fact if you cant use a laptop to do the task of selecting a football player you may not be the brightest crayon in the box. 

 

I mean seriously, some guy's wife was vacuuming near him during one of the most important days of the year he has at his multi-million dollar job?   Many of us take meetings from home on a daily at our "little jobs", and I think we know better than to be around a running vacuum. 

Edited April 21, 2020 by thenorthremembers

[Lurker]

2 hours ago, Warcodered said:

Right I'm wondering which GM will accidentally show a porn tab.

 

Good thing this didn't happen when Whaley was still GM...

 

 

1 hour ago, Blokestradamus said:

 

"Cheap plastic bowl"

"Scissors"

 

He's a visionary.    Been preparing for the lock down all his life...

 

 

Edited April 21, 2020 by Lurker

[major]

3 hours ago, MAJBobby said:

Yeah Beane talked it let me find it

 

Also interesting he said there will be less trades something about a one time 2 minute extension if a trade is made, and issues with the UDFA period.

 

 

While the pegs release employees it sounds like there is plenty of coin for av needs 

[Buffalo_Stampede]

 

[CountDorkula]

2 hours ago, Mr. WEO said:

 

Video meetings among far more people at a time are happening everywhere every day.

 

There's nothing that should make this such a problem.

two things.

 

1) Are there?

 

32 Gms,

32 owners

32 directors or amateur scouting

100s of scouts

several different NFL heads to track progress.

The NFL Commisioner

 

 

not to mention each team having its own separate channel set up of its entire staff of 50 to 100 people on its own channel

 

 

2) how many of those meetings are being televised as the biggest event to happen in ages. Skype/Zoom/Hangout meetings are not made for TV.

 

[Mr. WEO]

55 minutes ago, CountDorkula said:

two things.

 

1) Are there?

 

32 Gms,

32 owners

32 directors or amateur scouting

100s of scouts

several different NFL heads to track progress.

The NFL Commisioner

 

 

not to mention each team having its own separate channel set up of its entire staff of 50 to 100 people on its own channel

 

 

2) how many of those meetings are being televised as the biggest event to happen in ages. Skype/Zoom/Hangout meetings are not made for TV.

 

 

 

All of those people would not be together in one space on a normal draft.  Why add them up?  Each team will be meeting via video independently.  If each team can't do a video meeting with the couple dozen of employees they would normally need for their "war room", then they are incompetent. 

 

As for "2)", so what?  If half the scouts and owners and GMs connections went dead for a portion of the draft we wouldn't know by watching.  We wouldn't care either.  Picks will be made.

[CBD]

Couple of things i'm interested in:

 

Trade calls, communications are typically done by individuals other than Beane, and how they will organize that information via zoom interests me. 

 

I imagine they may have multiple zoom rooms, perhaps in prioritized groups. I heard the Schefter interview with Dimitroff. His main meeting will only have 5 individuals. And perhaps one of those 5 will be charged with any necessary discussions with scouts etc. in a separate chat?

 

Their actual draft board. It's typically a large magenetic or touch screen on the wall. They'll have to use a live google doc or something like that to refresh and update the board after every pick I assume. 

 

 

[BillsCelticsAngelsBama]

5 hours ago, Mark Vader said:

Yes.

 

Why can't teams do this? 

CNN would scream bloody murder

[That's No Moon]

6 hours ago, Warcodered said:

Right I'm wondering which GM will accidentally show a porn tab.

That's an excellent prop bet.  Jets?

[ColoradoBills]

6 hours ago, PIZ said:

I’m reading multiple tweets that say the issues with the virtual draft are overblown. Seems there were some early hiccups, but they worked through them. They will figure it out. 

 

Elway was on local TV talking about the mock draft and said everything is fine.

He did comment that the virtual draft could cause less trades than normal.

[Punching Bag]

7 hours ago, MAJBobby said:

https://terezowens.com/nfl-virtual-mock-draft-was-a-disaster/

 

 

 

There are a lot more sites talking about this (and other threads) with a lot higher info to ad ratio.

[That's No Moon]

5 hours ago, Buffalo716 said:

fantasy football owners don't have to communicate with a staff of scouts and pro personnel while on the clock, potentially a thousand miles away from each others, arguing over a prospect

 

It's always easier just to talk face-to-face

Jesus, there have been plain old conference calls for a million years where Fortune 500 companies would do huge business.  

 

Yes it easier to talk face to face but c'mon guys.  The potential pain points come with broadcasting this on TV and doing things like forgetting to mute your mic.

 

[/dev/null]

5 hours ago, Call_Of_Ktulu said:

We have a meeting everyday on Skype with over 50 people with zero issues for about a month now. The NFL is funny.

 

Your 50 person Skype call isn't part of a high profile event that tens of millions of people will watch

 

Your 50 person Skype call is significantly less likely to draw the interest of cyber criminals, foreign cyberwarriors, terrorists, hacktivists, or script kiddies

[That's No Moon]

5 hours ago, AlCowlingsTaxiService said:

Fantasy drafts don’t involve multiple remote webcams at probably fifty locations

And these dont have to either.

2 minutes ago, /dev/null said:

 

Your 50 person Skype call isn't part of a high profile event that tens of millions of people will watch

 

Your 50 person Skype call is significantly less likely to draw the interest of cyber criminals, foreign cyberwarriors, terrorists, hacktivists, or script kiddies

Companies do investor calls on Skype and other similar platforms all the time.

[MAJBobby]

What a great way to get that remodel you have been meaning to get done expensed to your employer. 
 

 

[CommonCents]

This is dumb. Like these guys can’t pay a few extra bucks for a higher speed connection. 

[That's No Moon]

5 hours ago, Mr. WEO said:

 

There's nothing that should make this such a problem.

The NFLs over-inflated sense of self-importance.

[BuffaloHokie13]

12 minutes ago, That's No Moon said:

That's an excellent prop bet.  Jets?

Well Whaley's no longer employed...

[Buffalo716]

6 minutes ago, That's No Moon said:

Jesus, there have been plain old conference calls for a million years where Fortune 500 companies would do huge business.  

 

Yes it easier to talk face to face but c'mon guys.  The potential pain points come with broadcasting this on TV and doing things like forgetting to mute your mic.

 

I don't think it's the end of the world but football coaches and personnel people are very strong opinionated

 

it would just be a lot more streamline if they're in the same room opposed to  arguing about a player via conference call

[That's No Moon]

Just now, Buffalo716 said:

I don't think it's the end of the world but football coaches and personnel people are very strong opinionated

 

it would just be a lot more streamline if they're in the same room opposed to  arguing about a player via conference call

I'm not arguing that it's not more streamlined but let's not act like this is impossible or even difficult.

[/dev/null]

1 minute ago, That's No Moon said:

Companies do investor calls on Skype and other similar platforms all the time.

Do you think they've ever been compromised?

 

Disrupting investor infomercials isn't going to get the attention of most of the bad actors that I mentioned.  Disrupting a highly public event on the other hand will

[CommonCents]

Just now, That's No Moon said:

I'm not arguing that it's not more streamlined but let's not act like this is impossible or even difficult.

It’s not and the GM hit rate is so low it can only help. 

[CBD]

I think any disagreements and questions on players should be answered prior to the draft. They’ve set a board, I wonder how much communication goes on with scouts etc in a normal year. 

Edited April 21, 2020 by CBD