TroutDog Posted April 16, 2020 Share Posted April 16, 2020 (edited) https://www.washingtonpost.com/sports/2020/04/15/nfl-empty-stadiums-sports-return/ The article touches on all of the major leagues. Glad to hear they’re considering all options and listening to health professionals above all else. EDIT: I shared this as a manner for others to see what the NFL and other leagues are looking at. It was NOT intended for people to spread disinformation or anecdotal evidence based on their ‘favorite expert’. Please let’s keep this to the sports arena, preferably Bills and Sabres. Thanks. ? Edited April 16, 2020 by TroutDog 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PirateHookerMD Posted April 16, 2020 Share Posted April 16, 2020 The problem is the players. Without a vaccine, it is likely inevitable that a player will test positive during the season. What happens to that team and that locker room? If they get players to sign a waiver and the NFLPA goes for it I guess it could happen. Would you want a season to have happened if Mitch Morris gets COVID and our entire offense is out for 2-3 weeks and essentially wastes the season anyway? I know we all want this to happen but it is problematic. 7 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBaumer Posted April 16, 2020 Share Posted April 16, 2020 Sports and concerts are done for 2020 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted April 16, 2020 Share Posted April 16, 2020 I find this refreshing 1 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted April 16, 2020 Share Posted April 16, 2020 18 minutes ago, PirateHookerMD said: The problem is the players. Without a vaccine, it is likely inevitable that a player will test positive during the season. What happens to that team and that locker room? If they get players to sign a waiver and the NFLPA goes for it I guess it could happen. Would you want a season to have happened if Mitch Morris gets COVID and our entire offense is out for 2-3 weeks and essentially wastes the season anyway? I know we all want this to happen but it is problematic. Mitch Morris? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eball Posted April 16, 2020 Share Posted April 16, 2020 23 minutes ago, GunnerBill said: Mitch Morris? Might be one of the Bills' waterboys. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RiotAct Posted April 16, 2020 Share Posted April 16, 2020 my first thought was that playing in front of no fans would be bad for the Bills, seeing as we’d lose that patented Buffalo home-field advantage and they seem to really, really love the fanbase (more so than pretty much every team in the league). But then I think of their home/away split last season... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TroutDog Posted April 16, 2020 Author Share Posted April 16, 2020 I believe it would be the right decision if they can pull it off. Like Mike Trout said in the article, there are tons of hurdles but, selfishly, I’d like sports to come back. Should the new pin-prick test come out soon then it could be a possibility...albeit without fans in the stands. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
machine gun kelly Posted April 16, 2020 Share Posted April 16, 2020 6 minutes ago, TroutDog said: I believe it would be the right decision if they can pull it off. Like Mike Trout said in the article, there are tons of hurdles but, selfishly, I’d like sports to come back. Should the new pin-prick test come out soon then it could be a possibility...albeit without fans in the stands. Trout, I think you’re comments are plausible. If they have an accurate rapid test, you can see players and staff getting tested before any contact in practices, and games. The fans in the stands I don’t believe will happen. They won’t take any chances unless they have a vaccine which is doubtful. My father unfortunately because of his age doesn’t know why they aren’t using more widespread the hydroxychloroquine as a treatment. I told him, there are serious risks of cardiac and retinal problems so only being used on the most sick. We just don’t have an effective treatment yet. I love football as much as all of you, but not at the risk of this pandemic starting up again given the assumption things tail off over the summer. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobbRiddicksTDLeap Posted April 16, 2020 Share Posted April 16, 2020 If there are no fans, then let’s hope that there is a sufficient work around of the Direct TV exclusivity deal, and that fans can stream games, with a portion of that new revenue going to the owners. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptnCoke11 Posted April 16, 2020 Share Posted April 16, 2020 With a fall outbreak being predicted likely i see now way they play this season. One player/coach gets it it’s over Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TroutDog Posted April 16, 2020 Author Share Posted April 16, 2020 (edited) 2 hours ago, BuffaloBaumer said: Sports and concerts are done for 2020 Some concerts are happening now...then televised or put on the web. People can get creative instead of simply cratering. Edited April 16, 2020 by TroutDog Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K-9 Posted April 16, 2020 Share Posted April 16, 2020 2 hours ago, BuffaloBaumer said: Sports and concerts are done for 2020 I think you’re correct here. With both the mayors in LA and NYC, the two largest sports and concert venues in the country hinting at that eventuality, the writing is on the wall for sure. But it’s nothing we can’t handle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shoshin Posted April 16, 2020 Share Posted April 16, 2020 I have been trying to picture this. MLB will be the first league to give this a shot. It probably works fine for baseball since it's a quiet crowd. Football would be hard to imagine in an empty stadium. It would be like watching a scrimmage but where the game had meaning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrober38 Posted April 16, 2020 Share Posted April 16, 2020 2 hours ago, BuffaloBaumer said: Sports and concerts are done for 2020 They should be, but they won't be. The NFL will never miss an opportunity to make the worst possible decision when faced with a PR issue. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nester Posted April 16, 2020 Share Posted April 16, 2020 It’s going to be like watching a practice. i doubt empty arenas will hold my interest in any pro sport. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
plenzmd1 Posted April 16, 2020 Share Posted April 16, 2020 3 minutes ago, K-9 said: I think you’re correct here. With both the mayors in LA and NYC, the two largest sports and concert venues in the country hinting at that eventuality, the writing is on the wall for sure. But it’s nothing we can’t handle. I know i am just optimistic, but i think it is way to early to call that yet. I mean we are 4 months from training camp, 5 from games. Lord knows what all the computer and AI in this world can do with treatment options. I think i am in the great majority of people in the middle on this thing...not a hox or overblown, but at some point the risk/reward becomes to great and we open things up soon..and we build herd immunity 1 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Franco_92 Posted April 16, 2020 Share Posted April 16, 2020 4 minutes ago, plenzmd1 said: I know i am just optimistic, but i think it is way to early to call that yet. I mean we are 4 months from training camp, 5 from games. Lord knows what all the computer and AI in this world can do with treatment options. I think i am in the great majority of people in the middle on this thing...not a hox or overblown, but at some point the risk/reward becomes to great and we open things up soon..and we build herd immunity You mean people predictably ramping up the doom and gloom during the worst week of the virus in the US, talking about events 5-6 months away, guaranteeing things about events 8months away, even as best case scenarios were slashed into fractions of what was thought just two weeks ago, might not be the most sage and informed on this topic?? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Giuseppe Tognarelli Posted April 16, 2020 Share Posted April 16, 2020 1 hour ago, RiotAct said: my first thought was that playing in front of no fans would be bad for the Bills, seeing as we’d lose that patented Buffalo home-field advantage and they seem to really, really love the fanbase (more so than pretty much every team in the league). But then I think of their home/away split last season... Yep. The Bills feel pressure when playing in front of the home fans. My question is do we really lose a year of our Super Bowl window if there is no season? Does this count as an accrued season with contracts? That would literally be the Billsiest thing in history. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RiotAct Posted April 16, 2020 Share Posted April 16, 2020 12 minutes ago, Giuseppe Tognarelli said: Yep. The Bills feel pressure when playing in front of the home fans. My question is do we really lose a year of our Super Bowl window if there is no season? Yes - but so do all the other teams who were in that window Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K-9 Posted April 16, 2020 Share Posted April 16, 2020 23 minutes ago, plenzmd1 said: I know i am just optimistic, but i think it is way to early to call that yet. I mean we are 4 months from training camp, 5 from games. Lord knows what all the computer and AI in this world can do with treatment options. I think i am in the great majority of people in the middle on this thing...not a hox or overblown, but at some point the risk/reward becomes to great and we open things up soon..and we build herd immunity I don’t see my view on things as pessimistic, just realistic. In the absence of a vaccine, there will be a resurgence; it’s just the nature of viral pandemics, especially this particular virus. Tens of thousands of closely packed people in the two largest population centers in the country on a regular basis sets the table nicely. I’ll remain hopeful though. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg S Posted April 16, 2020 Share Posted April 16, 2020 47 minutes ago, shoshin said: I have been trying to picture this. MLB will be the first league to give this a shot. It probably works fine for baseball since it's a quiet crowd. Football would be hard to imagine in an empty stadium. It would be like watching a scrimmage but where the game had meaning. Or watching a Chargers home game. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Giuseppe Tognarelli Posted April 16, 2020 Share Posted April 16, 2020 34 minutes ago, RiotAct said: Yes - but so do all the other teams who were in that window That doesn't make me feel better. If the Bills had two prime years to win a Super Bowl and one of those years was forfeited, that is not a good thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RiotAct Posted April 16, 2020 Share Posted April 16, 2020 11 minutes ago, Giuseppe Tognarelli said: That doesn't make me feel better. If the Bills had two prime years to win a Super Bowl and one of those years was forfeited, that is not a good thing. yep, I hear you. And my answer was rooted in the fact that all of our key guys will get another year older without being able to actually play. I have no idea what would happen as far as contract lengths, terms, and stuff like that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K-9 Posted April 16, 2020 Share Posted April 16, 2020 1 hour ago, hjnick said: They are learning more and more about this COVID every day. - Anyone under 40 and that's in great health without any underlying medical problems has almost a 0% chance of dying from this. - I think once the antibodies test comes out we will find out that ALOT of ppl have already had COVID, didn't know it and were asymptomatic. - You cannot trust the mortality rate from other countries, especially China. I trust the numbers in the US and right now it shows a mortality rate of approximately 4.9% ( 49 times the death rare of flu). It’s great that most people won’t die from this, but can you guarantee that all those infected people who won’t suffer much aren’t gonna infect the millions of people who will? 6 minutes ago, plenzmd1 said: Yea, I prooly phrased that wrong..not imnplying you were pessimistic, but more that my view I understand is relaying on some unknown happening...a therapeutic with great success, much greater numbers of asymptomatic people than we realize and letting people get out, something else that we can't foresee. I agree on that the atatements from CA and NY sure make the view of no sports seem more realistic...but let's not forget even 8 weeks ago we were told by the experts " this was on par with the seasonal flu"..things can change quick... And at the end of the day, I am a BUffalo fan, i always think things are better than they are!!!! I, too, have great hope for therapeutic remedies. But those will take some time as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
plenzmd1 Posted April 16, 2020 Share Posted April 16, 2020 10 hours ago, HappyDays said: Right now I would say there is practically a 0% probability that there are NFL games played in Los Angeles or NYC, at a bare minimum. The question isn't IF there will still be restrictions into September, but how many there restrictions there will be and if the NFL will be able to work around them. I think the NFL will cobble together a season somehow - there's too much money on the line - but it's going to be very different from what we're used to. thats the rub..lets say you cant play there..how can you play anywhere? Jets play the Bills...no Jet games at home, so all their fans from the City come to Orchard park to watch ...same as playing in Met life no? Such a freaking mess, lord knows what it is like in 3 months let alone 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HappyDays Posted April 16, 2020 Share Posted April 16, 2020 10 hours ago, plenzmd1 said: thats the rub..lets say you cant play there..how can you play anywhere? Jets play the Bills...no Jet games at home, so all their fans from the City come to Orchard park to watch ...same as playing in Met life no? Such a freaking mess, lord knows what it is like in 3 months let alone 6 I think they might have to do neutral locations for every team in a very controlled environment. That's the only possibility in my mind. If even one player tests positive during the season the league would have to shut down for the rest of the year. But they cant give certain teams a competitive advantage because they happen to play in lax states. So I think we'll see an NFL season without home or away games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrober38 Posted April 16, 2020 Share Posted April 16, 2020 (edited) 10 hours ago, HappyDays said: I think they might have to do neutral locations for every team in a very controlled environment. That's the only possibility in my mind. If even one player tests positive during the season the league would have to shut down for the rest of the year. But they cant give certain teams a competitive advantage because they happen to play in lax states. So I think we'll see an NFL season without home or away games. To your second, I think they'll find a way to play in front of empty stadiums. The NFL knows it's fan base is very conservative I think they'll come up with some sort of system where players are quarantined, tested every 3 days, etc to try their best to ensure a safe work environment. Not sure it will work, but if any league will prioritize money over health it's definitely the NFL. Edited April 17, 2020 by Hapless Bills Fan gratuitous political comment removed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkyMannn Posted April 16, 2020 Share Posted April 16, 2020 If it is contagious for fans, it is contagious for players. The NBA shut down almost immediately once a couple players were C-19 positive. Not to mention if you hold games the league is opening itself up for a lawsuit nightmare. They would be obligated to shut down. May not be even the league's decision once states rule against it as non-essential Still, it is almost 5 months away so lets hope Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HappyDays Posted April 16, 2020 Share Posted April 16, 2020 5 minutes ago, jrober38 said: I think they'll come up with some sort of system where players are quarantined, tested every 3 days, etc to try their best to ensure a safe work environment. The biggest road block is getting the players on board. And for that matter all the coaches, referees, NFL sideline officials... Are you going to tell everyone involved with an NFL game that they can't come in contact with their family for 6 months straight? How else do you keep everyone quarantined to ensure that not even one person tests positive? When I think about it like that the logistics sound impossible. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrober38 Posted April 16, 2020 Share Posted April 16, 2020 1 minute ago, HappyDays said: The biggest road block is getting the players on board. And for that matter all the coaches, referees, NFL sideline officials... Are you going to tell everyone involved with an NFL game that they can't come in contact with their family for 6 months straight? How else do you keep everyone quarantined to ensure that not even one person tests positive? When I think about it like that the logistics sound impossible. I totally agree. I'm just saying the NFL will find a way because they're they league the most motivated by money, and it will probably all wind up as a train wreck because as you said, the logistics don't make any sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brianmoorman4jesus Posted April 16, 2020 Share Posted April 16, 2020 No fans in the stands wouldn’t bother me at all. Sure I like to go to the games but as long as they are on TV, I’m good. Just please find a way to get the season in. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K-9 Posted April 16, 2020 Share Posted April 16, 2020 10 hours ago, jrober38 said: To your first post: EXACTLY!!!! To your second, I think they'll find a way to play in front of empty stadiums. The NFL knows it's fan base is very conservative I think they'll come up with some sort of system where players are quarantined, tested every 3 days, etc to try their best to ensure a safe work environment. Not sure it will work, but if any league will prioritize money over health it's definitely the NFL. NFL fans, regardless of who they side with politically, will have absolutely ZERO say in the matter. None. Just as it should be. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TroutDog Posted April 16, 2020 Author Share Posted April 16, 2020 11 minutes ago, K-9 said: NFL fans, regardless of who they side with politically, will have absolutely ZERO say in the matter. None. It’s time to listen to experts and ONLY experts. The rest is too suspect. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptnCoke11 Posted April 16, 2020 Share Posted April 16, 2020 No fans is a deal breaker for me.. Just shut it down if that’s the case Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. K Posted April 16, 2020 Share Posted April 16, 2020 Imagine if football lost is luster because of a lack of crowd kinda like WWE for the kiddos Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Boy Posted April 16, 2020 Share Posted April 16, 2020 4 hours ago, Nester said: It’s going to be like watching a practice. i doubt empty arenas will hold my interest in any pro sport. Disagree. The game itself will be different as crowd noise is a definite hinderance the farther you get from center. DB, WR and Safeties will de able to hear Playa crystal clear which will cause the game to truly be based on skill. Plus, we will be able to hear A LOT more of the trash talk, which will be fascinating. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Locomark Posted April 16, 2020 Share Posted April 16, 2020 6 hours ago, GunnerBill said: Mitch Morris? He's the durmmer on the Josh Fallon late night show. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RalphWilson'sNewWar Posted April 16, 2020 Share Posted April 16, 2020 Ehhh. NFL is a product first, entertainment second, sport third. who wins or loses doesn’t really matter in the grand scheme of things. Who won the super bowl last season? See! It didn’t really effect anything. Play a few exhibition games (8 games) at a neutral site. Call it a day around Christmas and we will see everyone back in 2021. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOUSE Posted April 16, 2020 Share Posted April 16, 2020 Studio football is not for me, you can't trust anyone now days 1 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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