Alphadawg7 Posted March 16, 2020 Share Posted March 16, 2020 6 hours ago, YoloinOhio said: He apparently didn’t fit the new offense In Chicago . But their running game missed him when he left. Funny, they replaced him with Montgomery who so far, didnt show himself to be better than Howard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rc2catch Posted March 16, 2020 Share Posted March 16, 2020 12 minutes ago, NewEra said: We talk about improving our offense and wanting to become explosive.....then we shouldn’t be talking about Jordan Howard imo. We have guys that can do what howard does. Our lead back can do what he does Most teams need 3-4 backs to get through the season. To just expect singletary and whoever the explosive player everyone is adding to this offense to both survive the season healthy is quite slim Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stuvian Posted March 16, 2020 Share Posted March 16, 2020 Howard's just a warm body Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted March 16, 2020 Share Posted March 16, 2020 1 minute ago, Rc2catch said: Most teams need 3-4 backs to get through the season. To just expect singletary and whoever the explosive player everyone is adding to this offense to both survive the season healthy is quite slim Beane and McD did last season. They had Singletary and Gore with Yeldon inactive all year. If they operate their roster in a similar fashion, it would be Singletary and Howard with Yeldon inactive. Or they could cut Yeldon and add that explosive back we all cover....but who sits each week as they like to dress 2 backs. If we sign howard for a 2mill a year contract or less, I’m all for it. So if we cut him, it won’t hurt. I just don’t want to pay this JAG anything more than the minimum Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExWNYer Posted March 16, 2020 Share Posted March 16, 2020 (edited) 48 minutes ago, njbuff said: Trade for Howard who is a FA? Edited March 16, 2020 by ExWNYer 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan89 Posted March 16, 2020 Share Posted March 16, 2020 Jordan Howard would be a solid addition to team. It's not a ground breaking high priority need but a road grater short yardage back is good to have and Howard would both come cheap and be effective. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rc2catch Posted March 16, 2020 Share Posted March 16, 2020 33 minutes ago, NewEra said: Beane and McD did last season. They had Singletary and Gore with Yeldon inactive all year. If they operate their roster in a similar fashion, it would be Singletary and Howard with Yeldon inactive. Or they could cut Yeldon and add that explosive back we all cover....but who sits each week as they like to dress 2 backs. If we sign howard for a 2mill a year contract or less, I’m all for it. So if we cut him, it won’t hurt. I just don’t want to pay this JAG anything more than the minimum I don’t see him as the answer or anything. But if it’s Howard handling the carries Gore had last season we will see a much different result I think. I still would prefer a 3-4 guy committee. I didn’t like the 1-2 punch every week last season 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted March 16, 2020 Share Posted March 16, 2020 1 minute ago, Rc2catch said: I don’t see him as the answer or anything. But if it’s Howard handling the carries Gore had last season we will see a much different result I think. I still would prefer a 3-4 guy committee. I didn’t like the 1-2 punch every week last season Agreed. He’s a nice upgrade over gore, but our offense needs more juice. MCD doesn’t mess around with his roster spots. I think we roll with 2 RBs and the 3rd being inactive. There are several that I like in the draft. I’d rather not pay howard jack and roll with a rookie. We also have wade....:who could be better than Howard. We have no idea what wade even is at this point. Potential WR draftees like Antonio Gibson or Lynn Bowden Jr could get some carries to mix up the pace. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted March 16, 2020 Share Posted March 16, 2020 Call me very "meh" on Jordan Howard. The 49ers are the model. Speed at running back kills. Singletary has moves but lacks speed and Howard is another straight line plodder. Pass. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicken Boo Posted March 16, 2020 Share Posted March 16, 2020 Perfect fit! I mean PERFECT! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted March 16, 2020 Share Posted March 16, 2020 1 minute ago, Chicken Boo said: Perfect fit! I mean PERFECT! For a dick Jauron offense Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicken Boo Posted March 16, 2020 Share Posted March 16, 2020 8 hours ago, Joe in Winslow said: Not thrilled with this. The people here in Philthadelphia aren't all that keen on him. Did you see him take our defense's heart just last season? He is EXACTLY what this team needs and what McDermott was hoping to get with Gore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted March 16, 2020 Share Posted March 16, 2020 Just now, Chicken Boo said: Did you see him take our defense's heart just last season? He is EXACTLY what this team needs and what McDermott was hoping to get with Gore. I saw him bang into the line for no gain plenty of times. Then they gave the ball to Miles Sanders a running back who can actually, you know, run... and he took it to the house. We don't have that breakaway speed in Singletary so our change of pace guy needs to have it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicken Boo Posted March 16, 2020 Share Posted March 16, 2020 21 minutes ago, NewEra said: For a dick Jauron offense A veteran RB who is physical, can receive out of the backfield and is great in pass protection. This "vaunted" Bills defense wanted nothing to do with him this past season, when it mattered in the 2nd half. 19 minutes ago, GunnerBill said: I saw him bang into the line for no gain plenty of times. Then they gave the ball to Miles Sanders a running back who can actually, you know, run... and he took it to the house. We don't have that breakaway speed in Singletary so our change of pace guy needs to have it. You must have turned the game off after that run then. There are more important things than speed when it comes to running backs. Howard is plenty fast enough. He can also block and is a good receiver as well. Both are far more important traits. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted March 16, 2020 Share Posted March 16, 2020 (edited) 22 minutes ago, Chicken Boo said: A veteran RB who is physical, can receive out of the backfield and is great in pass protection. This "vaunted" Bills defense wanted nothing to do with him this past season, when it mattered in the 2nd half. You must have turned the game off after that run then. There are more important things than speed when it comes to running backs. Howard is plenty fast enough. He can also block and is a good receiver as well. Both are far more important traits. You said it. You’re trying to sell him being good and that’s how you sold him. Yeah he’s awesome. The bears let him go after he had success there. They didn’t want him. The eagles get him, they let him go. he “can receive”. Lol. He can. So can Dion Dawkins. Doesn’t mean he’s any good at it. He did own us last year. He had one of the best games of his career....and he had 23-96. Lots of credit due to their OL and scheme that day. like I said before, he doesn’t suck. I just want more from my complimentary rb to devin Singletary. You should too Edited March 16, 2020 by NewEra 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turk71 Posted March 16, 2020 Share Posted March 16, 2020 11 minutes ago, Chicken Boo said: A veteran RB who is physical, can receive out of the backfield and is great in pass protection. This "vaunted" Bills defense wanted nothing to do with him this past season, when it mattered in the 2nd half. You must have turned the game off after that run then. There are more important things than speed when it comes to running backs. Howard is plenty fast enough. He can also block and is a good receiver as well. Both are far more important traits. He is not plenty fast enough, in fact he is kind of slow. I would not classify him a very good receiver either. He is pretty average across the board imo. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted March 16, 2020 Share Posted March 16, 2020 (edited) 1 minute ago, Turk71 said: He is not plenty fast enough, in fact he is kind of slow. I would not classify him a very good receiver either. He is pretty average across the board imo. And he’s not a “good receiver”. He physically has hands and can catch the ball. 2 different things Edited March 16, 2020 by NewEra 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turk71 Posted March 16, 2020 Share Posted March 16, 2020 1 minute ago, NewEra said: And he’s not a “good receiver”. He physically has hands and can catch the ball. 2 different things Ya, I'm pretty good at catching too.☺ 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicken Boo Posted March 16, 2020 Share Posted March 16, 2020 (edited) 25 minutes ago, NewEra said: You said it. You’re trying to sell him being good and that’s how you sold him. Yeah he’s awesome. The bears let him go after he had success there. They didn’t want him. The eagles get him, they let him go. he “can receive”. Lol. He can. So can Dion Dawkins. Doesn’t mean he’s any good at it. He did own us last year. He had one of the best games of his career....and he had 23-96. Lots of credit due to their OL and scheme that day. like I said before, he doesn’t suck. I just want more from my complimentary rb to devin Singletary. You should too Howard was #2 on my wants list behind Conklin because he fits. Singletary is going to be the bell cow. Howard will be our thumper/short yardage/cleanup guy and a veteran presence. I wouldn't feel comfortable going into the season with Josh having to rely on a 2nd year guy who's not great in pass protection and a rookie RB just learning the ropes. Mark my words, Buffalo will love him! Edited March 16, 2020 by Chicken Boo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Biscuit97 Posted March 16, 2020 Share Posted March 16, 2020 It blows my mind why this regime values older, expensive veteran rbs. It’s a passing league where rbs are a dime a dozen but let’s just keeping paying $3 million plus to a guy. Makes no sense. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted March 16, 2020 Share Posted March 16, 2020 1 minute ago, Chicken Boo said: Howard was #2 on my wants list behind Conklin because he fits. Singletary is going to be the bell cow. Howard will be our thumper/short yardage/cleanup guy and a veteran presence. I wouldn't feel comfortable going into the season with Josh having to rely on a 2nd year guy who's not great in pass protection and a rookie RB just learning the ropes. Mark my words, Buffalo will love him! Like I said before, what started this, he “fits a dick Jauron offense”. I hear ya and I believe that McB is interested. I just think he’s best served as our 3rd back and takes yeldons spot on the inactive list each week. I’d be really happy with him in that role Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gambit Posted March 16, 2020 Share Posted March 16, 2020 1 minute ago, C.Biscuit97 said: It blows my mind why this regime values older, expensive veteran rbs. It’s a passing league where rbs are a dime a dozen but let’s just keeping paying $3 million plus to a guy. Makes no sense. Older? Howard is only 25 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Biscuit97 Posted March 16, 2020 Share Posted March 16, 2020 5 minutes ago, Chicken Boo said: Howard was #2 on my wants list behind Conklin because he fits. Singletary is going to be the bell cow. Howard will be our thumper/short yardage/cleanup guy and a veteran presence. I wouldn't feel comfortable going into the season with Josh having to rely on a 2nd year guy who's not great in pass protection and a rookie RB just learning the ropes. Mark my words, Buffalo will love him! Why is a running back so high? Just draft a guy or sign one after training camp cuts for super cheap. 1 minute ago, Gambit said: Older? Howard is only 25 With wear and tear. Like he’s not horrible but there’s a reason he’s about to be on his 3rd team in 3 years. running back should not a be a priority position. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malazan Posted March 16, 2020 Share Posted March 16, 2020 I wonder how many of the people here who are dying to draft a RB lost their minds when they picked SIngletary last year? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gambit Posted March 16, 2020 Share Posted March 16, 2020 4 minutes ago, C.Biscuit97 said: Why is a running back so high? Just draft a guy or sign one after training camp cuts for super cheap. With wear and tear. Like he’s not horrible but there’s a reason he’s about to be on his 3rd team in 3 years. running back should not a be a priority position. Yeah, I understand your point. I'm very okay with drafting one this year. So many solid options. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicken Boo Posted March 16, 2020 Share Posted March 16, 2020 I'm banking all of these responses. Crow will be eaten if the Bills sign Howard. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdand12 Posted March 16, 2020 Share Posted March 16, 2020 8 hours ago, TOboy said: Those are little dump offs though. Howard has never been the guy out running routes. and Allen / Daboll don't do those sweet checkdowns much so... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blacklabel Posted March 16, 2020 Share Posted March 16, 2020 I'd be alright with Howard as the #2 back. Started off his career pretty hot but then kinda fell off the rails there. Everyone clamoring for them to say, "Eh, fudge Howard, we'll just draft a guy" they could do both, really. And keep in mind that they prefer a veteran in each position group. Also keep in mind how gradually they worked Singletary into the offense. They might want a guy who can come in and be able to contribute quicker than a rookie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted March 16, 2020 Share Posted March 16, 2020 39 minutes ago, C.Biscuit97 said: Why is a running back so high? Just draft a guy or sign one after training camp cuts for super cheap. With wear and tear. Like he’s not horrible but there’s a reason he’s about to be on his 3rd team in 3 years. running back should not a be a priority position. You get better where you can. And he's averaged 224 carries a season. Hardly high mileage. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdand12 Posted March 16, 2020 Share Posted March 16, 2020 34 minutes ago, jeremy2020 said: I wonder how many of the people here who are dying to draft a RB lost their minds when they picked SIngletary last year? That was a get they Bills were delighted about. They need to ad to that. Yeldon is not my pick, even for the inactive list. Sorry TJ. Howard would be an upgrade from Gore. young enough to run him hard. old enough to be smart about his runs. and he should be reasonably priced if Bills make a deal you solidify the position and now Bills can get back to BPA in the draft. Seem Beane can identify College RBs decently. Lets find a gem then ? 4 minutes ago, Doc said: You get better where you can. And he's averaged 224 carries a season. Hardly high mileage. I agree. Beane doesn't swing for the fences anyways. He gets on base or drives a runner in off the pop fly lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victory Formation Posted March 16, 2020 Share Posted March 16, 2020 35 minutes ago, Chicken Boo said: I'm banking all of these responses. Crow will be eaten if the Bills sign Howard. He’s solid but not a game breaker. Would have much preferred Taylor or Dobbins. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted March 16, 2020 Share Posted March 16, 2020 39 minutes ago, Chicken Boo said: I'm banking all of these responses. Crow will be eaten if the Bills sign Howard. Bank this: Howard would be a waste of time and money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan_34 Posted March 16, 2020 Share Posted March 16, 2020 9 hours ago, YoloinOhio said: Why could he not fill the RB2 role Thank you! He is a darn good back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tesla03 Posted March 16, 2020 Share Posted March 16, 2020 man it really sucks to be excited about this FA period only to hear Jordan Howard's name ... where are the big money star players? this team is dying for top talent Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted March 16, 2020 Share Posted March 16, 2020 3 minutes ago, Tesla03 said: man it really sucks to be excited about this FA period only to hear Jordan Howard's name ... where are the big money star players? this team is dying for top talent They are? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsDiehard Posted March 16, 2020 Share Posted March 16, 2020 Is Buddy sleeping!? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Shooter McGavin Posted March 17, 2020 Share Posted March 17, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, BillsDiehard said: Is Buddy sleeping!? He made a big splash last year with the Mario Williams signing. $100 mil!!!! Biggest contract ever! Ralph is cheap! It’s a tuff game for tuff paple! Cordy Glenn is a guard! Edited March 17, 2020 by Shooter McGavin 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cheektowaga Chad Posted March 17, 2020 Share Posted March 17, 2020 Howard would be a great pick up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monty98 Posted March 17, 2020 Share Posted March 17, 2020 Looking at this, Howard would be a solid pick up. He's not going to wow you, but he's going to convert those 3rd and 3 or less situations we were so bad at last year. He also doesn't put the ball on the ground. Also he was moved out of Chicago based on the new Matt Nagy scheme plus when you have crazy contracts like Mack and needed to extend players like Eddie Jackson and Fuller coming up a RB isn't as valuable to you. Lamar Miller is the dynamic back everyone cries for. Yes I know he's older but once Miller gets through the hole he's a home run threat every time. He's got that sneaky speed and he's the only RB with two TD runs of 95 yards or longer in NFL history. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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