Hapless Bills Fan Posted March 6, 2020 Share Posted March 6, 2020 Especially, Dark Horse FA (repeated from title: WR!!!!) who no one is talking about much I put this in the FA thread. Parrino speculates the Bills should target Devin Funchess. My reaction to that is "what happened to the first thing about a WR is he's gotta be able to catch the ball, McBeane?" So I thought it would be interesting to provide a list of this year's FA WR and encourage speculation about who the Bills should target, beyond the top 3 or 4 (though I personally wouldn't mind us making a play for Robby Anderson - he craycray tho). https://www.fftoday.com/nfl/freeagents.php?o=1&PosID=30 Pick 3, and say why. UFA only, please. Overall, I'm looking for guys with a bit more size and catch radius than we've got on the roster, who look as though they might be able to take a step in the right circumstance (fit the Beane profile) My 3: Cody Lattimer. Unimpressive with DEN, but showed some flashes for the Giants in 2018 then got injured. Up and down season last year. Doesn't drop much. 6'2", ran a 4.44s 40 and had a 39" vertical back in the day. Weird legal trouble back in 2016 (DV...but he says he was the victim). Take a careful look at his film, see if he looks like a guy who could bloom here. Tajae Sharp. He's been unspectacular so far, but he was a guy from lower competition (U Mass) who may have taken a while to adjust, and was hampered by injury (lost his 2nd season). His catch % took a huge jump this year, up to 74% and very few drops, but he was buried way deep on the Titans depth chart behind Brown, Davis, and Jonnu Smith so he didn't get many looks. He's 6'2" and ran a 4.55 40. He's got some personal legal trouble from 2017 that would warrant looking into. If his film shows well, he might be a guy ready to take a step. Seth Roberts. Take a guy with decent hands (60% overall catch %) and size (6'2"), bury him on the depth chart behind 3 great TE, Marquise Brown, and Willie Sneed, and who do you get? Seth Roberts, that's who. He doesn't drop the ball, and he's a good downfield blocker. I'm pretty sure the Ravens signed him as a "back up plan" in case Brown needed development time. Seems like he could serve the same role here. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flutie5 Posted March 6, 2020 Share Posted March 6, 2020 Jack Conklin, Derrick Henry, and Josh Norman 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Logic Posted March 7, 2020 Share Posted March 7, 2020 (edited) **Edit: Aw, shoot. You said free agent WIDE RECEIVERS. I missed that last part. Ah well, the below listed players are who I like in free agency. The draft is where I want to see wide receivers added. They already have two trusty vets starting at WR in Brown and Beasley. Sorry I blew the thread topic** Kyler Fackrell, LB - Can play stack linebacker on 1st and 2nd down and rush the passer on 3rd down. Essentially, he would take over Lorenzo Alexander's role. Alec Ogletree, LB - If the Bills decide they don't want to even TRY to find a guy who can do what 'Zo did -- and that would be understandable, because he played a really unique role -- and that they want to go with more of a traditional WILL, I think Alec Ogletree would fit in really well. I doubt he'd break the bank, either. Vernon Butler, DT - Can play 1T and 3T. Former 1st round talent who isn't a gamebreaker, but can add great rotational value and versaitility. Ultimately, I'd like to see the Bills come out of free agency with a linebacker, corner, DT, and perhaps an Edge, as well. In short, I want to see them fill their defensive holes and depth chart via free agency. As I see it, the defense already has its young core, which were pretty much all drafted by this regime (Oliver, Edmunds, Milano, White, etc). Some savvy veterans who can fill specific roles would complement this young, homegrown core well. Conversely, I feel the offense has the opposite problem. It saw an influx of veterans and role players last year -- Brown, Beasley, Morse, Feliciano, Kroft -- but this year I'd like to see an infusion of youth. Allen, Singletary, and Knox were a great start. They need more. Free agency: fill out the defense with veterans. Draft: Infuse the offense with dynamic, young weapons. Edited March 7, 2020 by Logic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJS Posted March 7, 2020 Share Posted March 7, 2020 To be honest, I'm not too thrilled with the WR free agents. Last year I really wanted John Brown and we got him. This year nobody jumps out to me. Wouldn't mind Amari Cooper, but he is about to get overpaid. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teddy KGB Posted March 7, 2020 Share Posted March 7, 2020 Emmanuel Sanders, Robbie Anderson, Paul Richardson 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted March 7, 2020 Author Share Posted March 7, 2020 2 minutes ago, Logic said: Kyler Fackrell, LB - Can play stack linebacker on 1st and 2nd down and rush the passer on 3rd down. Essentially, he would take over Lorenzo Alexander's role. Alec Ogletree, LB - If the Bills decide they don't want to even TRY to find a guy who can do what 'Zo did -- and that would be understandable, because he played a really unique role -- and that they want to go with more of a traditional WILL, I think Alec Ogletree would fit in really well. I doubt he'd break the bank, either. Vernon Butler, DT - Can play 1T and 3T. Former 1st round talent who isn't a gamebreaker, but can add great rotational value and versaitility. Ultimately, I'd like to see the Bills come out of free agency with a linebacker, corner, DT, and perhaps an Edge, as well. In short, I want to see them fill their defensive holes and depth chart via free agency. As I see it, the defense already has its young core, which were pretty much all drafted by this regime (Oliver, Edmunds, Milano, White, etc). Some savvy veterans who can fill specific roles would complement this young, homegrown core well. Conversely, I feel the offense has the opposite problem. It saw an influx of veterans and role players last year -- Brown, Beasley, Morse, Feliciano, Kroft -- but this year I'd like to see an infusion of youth. Allen, Singletary, and Knox were a great start. They need more. Free agency: fill out the defense with veterans. Draft: Infuse the offense with dynamic, young weapons. Good choices, but again, as the subject: said, FA WR please. I edited the OP text to clarify Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whatdrought Posted March 7, 2020 Share Posted March 7, 2020 Did the name of this thread change after the first two replies? also, I like Sharpe as a sleeper. He’s shown flashes and it’s hard to judge him coming from the mess that Tennessee's offense has been in the past, and now that they’ve figured it out he was buried on the Depth... might be worth a flier. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Logic Posted March 7, 2020 Share Posted March 7, 2020 1 minute ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: Good choices, but again, as the subject: said, FA WR please. I edited the OP text to clarify Sorry, I just saw that. My bad. Have edited my reply with a line at the top accordingly. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted March 7, 2020 Author Share Posted March 7, 2020 5 minutes ago, Teddy KGB said: Emmanuel Sanders, Robbie Anderson, Paul Richardson Interesting choices - care to say why? Richardson interests me as well. I'm wondering why the Skins released him, though. Was it a cap move? He had a good 2017 for Seattle, perhaps moving to a Dumpster Fire Team threw him off track and he could get back. 3 minutes ago, whatdrought said: Did the name of this thread change after the first two replies? No, WR was always in the name, and in the list of FA I provided.... but I didn't reiterate it in the top line of the OP so I went back and added that. Quote also, I like Sharpe as a sleeper. He’s shown flashes and it’s hard to judge him coming from the mess that Tennessee's offense has been in the past, and now that they’ve figured it out he was buried on the Depth... might be worth a flier. At least worth a careful look at his film for Beane and Co. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted March 7, 2020 Author Share Posted March 7, 2020 9 minutes ago, MJS said: To be honest, I'm not too thrilled with the WR free agents. Last year I really wanted John Brown and we got him. This year nobody jumps out to me. Wouldn't mind Amari Cooper, but he is about to get overpaid. I had the same conclusion after looking at the list. There's no one on there after Cooper who I'm enthused about. Green and Sanders are good but I want youth. Robby Anderson does intrigue me if we think we can control the craycray; because the market is so thin I'm betting on "overpaid" for him. I do feel we should take a shot on bringing in some guys to at least be a "backup plan" if we draft a rookie who needs development time. Of course, whether or not that makes sense would depend upon whether they think they'll bring back McKensie and what they think they might see out of Duke. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rc2catch Posted March 7, 2020 Share Posted March 7, 2020 (edited) Tajae sharpe has a lot of potential. He’s not the #1 prototype guy everyone wants but he would be a very safe signing as backup in case you can’t get the high profile receiver you want in the draft. Tennessee is very known for not giving playing time to their better players. Hence why henry sat behind demarco Murray and even back seated to Dion Lewis a bit before he caught fire at the end of last season. This year was actually Henry’s first real season as the feature back. Mularkey was terrible on personnel. Back to the point though sharpe had a real breakout season as a rookie and kinda faded after. He’s a low risk possible high reward kinda guy. I enjoyed watching his game in his rookie season Edited March 7, 2020 by Rc2catch 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yantha Posted March 7, 2020 Share Posted March 7, 2020 Most years I'd be all over this. But this year, I'm interested in zero FA WR's. Mainly because our top two WR's are going to be on the wrong side of 30 this season, and this upcoming draft is stacked with WRs with value right through round 6. I can't look at the WR's who will likely want too much money, and/or have injury histories etc while we could use some FA targeting money for other positions like O-line (IMO our greatest FA need). 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Jokeman Posted March 7, 2020 Share Posted March 7, 2020 The WR UFAs on the whole are meh yet if we're to add one the following be on my short list: Robby Anderson, Devin Funchess and Geronimo Allison. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeF Posted March 7, 2020 Share Posted March 7, 2020 Demarcus Robinson - Still young (25); improved stats every year; poised to take a bigger role Taylor Gabriel - I think he could be better than Isiah McKenize in the gadget role AJ Green - because I met him in the Cincy airport one time and he was nice to me.. Preference - draft Bryan Edwards and Chase Claypool 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CEN-CAL17 Posted March 7, 2020 Share Posted March 7, 2020 Breshard Perriman Devin Funchess Geronimo Allison Rashard Higgins 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sherlock Holmes Posted March 7, 2020 Share Posted March 7, 2020 Taysom Hill, Jack Conklin, Brandon Scherff, Bonus 3 : Hunter Henry, Joe Schobert, HaHa Clinton Dix 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teddy KGB Posted March 7, 2020 Share Posted March 7, 2020 15 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: Interesting choices - care to say why? Richardson interests me as well. I'm wondering why the Skins released him, though. Was it a cap move? He had a good 2017 for Seattle, perhaps moving to a Dumpster Fire Team threw him off track and he could get back. —Emmanuel Sanders would be the best wr on the team — Robbie Anderson is pretty solid at catching deep balls —- Richardson is better than Duke. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frostbitmic Posted March 7, 2020 Share Posted March 7, 2020 Stephon Diggs - however you have to get him Phillip Dorsett Geronimo Allison Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CommonCents Posted March 7, 2020 Share Posted March 7, 2020 1 minute ago, Teddy KGB said: —Emmanuel Sanders would be the best wr on the team — Robbie Anderson is pretty solid at catching deep balls —- Richardson is better than Duke. I still think Anderson can be a top tier WR in this league, maybe smoking lots of pot will help him calm down. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rc2catch Posted March 7, 2020 Share Posted March 7, 2020 (edited) 6 minutes ago, Sherlock Holmes said: Taysom Hill, Jack Conklin, Brandon Scherff, Bonus 3 : Hunter Henry, Joe Schobert, HaHa Clinton Dix 0-6 you lose, punishment is you can not mention any players wearing #22 in the nfl for 6 weeks. Edited March 7, 2020 by Rc2catch 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJB Posted March 7, 2020 Share Posted March 7, 2020 Hayden Panetierre Stephanie Sandiland Margot Robbie Oh wait wrong list I think 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CommonCents Posted March 7, 2020 Share Posted March 7, 2020 I thought I’d see more interest in Perriman. His upside is at the top of the list and he shouldn’t command anything too close to Cooper. The Bills are in a spot where they can take a risk or two. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted March 7, 2020 Share Posted March 7, 2020 (edited) Oh man. Reading this thread makes me think we should trade up for Ceedee Lamb or draft 2 WRs in the first couple rds. I think we need one stud as opposed to multiple solid WRs Edited March 7, 2020 by NewEra 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sherlock Holmes Posted March 7, 2020 Share Posted March 7, 2020 6 minutes ago, Rc2catch said: 0-6 you lose, punishment is you can not mention any players wearing #22 in the nfl for 6 weeks. Can't I just take a few wacks to the behind???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rc2catch Posted March 7, 2020 Share Posted March 7, 2020 Just now, Sherlock Holmes said: Can't I just take a few wacks to the behind???? Hapless can be the judge, jury and executioner on this one Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CommonCents Posted March 7, 2020 Share Posted March 7, 2020 That’s the cure to the CoronaVirus. CMC needs to spank Sherlock’s bare cheeks then the world will return to normal. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sherlock Holmes Posted March 7, 2020 Share Posted March 7, 2020 6 minutes ago, Rc2catch said: Hapless can be the judge, jury and executioner on this one Oh @Hapless Bills Fan please have mercy on me, I promise my behind doesn't like the punishment zone I can also grovel for extra long if necessary... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wily Dog Posted March 7, 2020 Share Posted March 7, 2020 A good UFA Right Tackle so Ford can move inside and the line will not suffer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alphadawg7 Posted March 7, 2020 Share Posted March 7, 2020 AJ Green and Perriman are the only ones who interest me. And even then, they are not my main preference. Don’t get me wrong, I’m not against those signings, but just think this draft is so good at WR, let’s go get some young talent to pair with our vets and let Josh grow with them. I don’t think we should sign any FA WRs and should look to spend more at the edge, LB, and OT spots. We have 2 quality veteran starters right now in John and Cole. Go get 2 WRs in the first 3 rounds of the draft and let Duke, Roberts and McKenzie battle for the remaining spots. I would love to see us draft a stud prospect in the first and then draft another in round 3 like Claypool, Pittman, Mims, Hamler, DPJ, Reagor, Aiyuk, Edwards, etc. I know some of those guys will go in second, but odds are not all of them will and someone Good will be there in the 3rd round. Last year guys people expected to go earlier lasted a round to 2 rounds longer than expected. Even some mocked to go mid rounds were not even drafted. It’s a deep group, I would double dip and take 2 in first 3 rounds. Heck, I would have even trade back into the 3rd round if need be like last year. Take Jefferson/Higgins at 22 (assumption top 3 guys gone). Take Claypool or DPG in the third (I think good chance they could be there). Or go a different direction first and take back to back WRs in rounds 2 and 3 or even 2nd and 4th. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HappyDays Posted March 7, 2020 Share Posted March 7, 2020 If AJ Green was available that would be my pick. Otherwise this is the least exciting WR free agency group in years. Draft two and move on. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJB Posted March 7, 2020 Share Posted March 7, 2020 21 minutes ago, CommonCents said: I thought I’d see more interest in Perriman. His upside is at the top of the list and he shouldn’t command anything too close to Cooper. The Bills are in a spot where they can take a risk or two. Didnt the Bills bring in Perriman for a workout and passed on him? Why would they change their minds on him now? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdonley1180 Posted March 7, 2020 Share Posted March 7, 2020 Finally some ❤️ for Perriman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ehfeuh57 Posted March 7, 2020 Share Posted March 7, 2020 Robby Anderson would be a great fit 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScorpionZero Posted March 7, 2020 Share Posted March 7, 2020 (edited) Demarcus Robinson, Breshad perriman, size, speed, experience. Taylor gabriel. Ankle breaker. Edited March 7, 2020 by ScorpionZero Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TFBillsfan Posted March 7, 2020 Share Posted March 7, 2020 This FA WR group doesn’t excite me. The Bills have assembled a nice group of players but IMO must ADD some difference makers in FA and the draft to take the next step forward. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HappyDays Posted March 7, 2020 Share Posted March 7, 2020 13 minutes ago, DrDare said: Robby Anderson would be a great fit If it was a bad draft class I'd agree, he would be a very nice fall back option. But he isn't a #1. If we sign him and draft one early I'm not sure where everyone fits in. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
First Round Bust Posted March 7, 2020 Share Posted March 7, 2020 me thinks we did our free agent shopping last season; with a deep draft of prospects my hunch is we don't sign any WRs and we don't draft one in round 1 either *unless one of top alpha dogs falls to us; which then will kindle the debate as to which of the existing are in jeopardy namely Isiah (speed) or the Dukah (size) would be displaced.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan89 Posted March 7, 2020 Share Posted March 7, 2020 Going for impact players the three WR's that would interest me most would be 1- Amari Cooper - Cooper is the only stud WR1 on the market. Although I don't like the money he would command (likely near 20 million aav with a hefty guarantee) he is the best WR out on the market and would immediately provide the upgrade at WR needed and push the draft need of WR down to round 3 or 4 where some depth and youth would be needed at the position. I would personally not like to see them shell out close to 20 million aav for Cooper but in terms of impact he is at the top of the market. 2- Robby Anderson - Anderson would likely command a lot less than Cooper in terms of aav and guarantees although he wouldn't come cheap (I would peg his market around 9-10 million aav) but he provides a fast WR who is 6 foot 3 and has the past three seasons eclipsed 50 receptions and 700 yards and 5 TD's at a minimum playing with middling or young QB's. I think the team would still have to draft a WR in round 2 or 3 to get younger behind the vets if they signed Anderson but they would immensely add a WR that fits their needs. 3- Demarcus Robinson - The cheapest FA WR on this list but someone I think would help add depth and come on a more modest 3-5 million aav contract. I think if you sign Robinson you then have to draft a WR high as you don't want to depend on his production level but if you are going more in the bargain bin I think Robinson is a good prospect to go after here. On the trade market I see a lot of interesting options but unless Stefon Diggs becomes available for a package of picks built around a 2nd rounder I just don't see anyone making sense at a good cost point. Odell isn't a process guy and won't come cheap, the other WR's that I think will be on the market don't have enough impact or have injury concerns. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just Joshin' Posted March 7, 2020 Share Posted March 7, 2020 32 minutes ago, DrDare said: Robby Anderson would be a great fit Did he not have a legal issue a few years ago? Is he a high character guy? He has talent but not sure if he fits the Bills profile. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elltrain22 Posted March 7, 2020 Share Posted March 7, 2020 In no particular order Jimmy Smith- still can play, and I think would be a Micah Hyde type player, in that, we all know he's a good player, but with good scheme and coaching, he'd be possibly pro bowl level. Arik Armstead- good fit for our defense. He'd allow us to focus on offense in the draft, and be a really solid pass rusher for our team. Austin Hooper or Darryl Williams- in Hooper it would give Allen a reliable target over the middle. Only thing is it cuts into Knox reps. I love Knox, but we gotta maximize our offense especially while Allen is on his rookie deal. Williams can still play. Yes, he has injury history, but I truly believe in our staff and keeping guys healthy. He's versatile, and would allow Cody Ford to move inside to guard, where I think, he'd really flourish. Let me also predict we move up in the draft. I guarantee you we end up with Jeudy, Lamb, or Ruggs. No way Beane leaves this draft without a stud WR. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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