Bad Things Posted February 19, 2020 Share Posted February 19, 2020 Doomed! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frostbitmic Posted February 19, 2020 Share Posted February 19, 2020 Austin Hooper ... Seriously, Austin Hooper ... Austin Hooper would make our offense unstoppable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted February 19, 2020 Share Posted February 19, 2020 2 minutes ago, OldTimer1960 said: I was hoping that they could sign Olsen for a year’s good play and mentorship, but I am not down on Knox and Sweeney - I think both showed promise- especially Knox. I think he will address the drops which I think (Hope?) were mostly due to being too anxious to start running before securing the catch. I really think Knox has very good size and speed and we also saw some “want to” on some plays. I’m not “down on Knox and Sweeney” either. I’m a realist. We really should give Allen better talent at the TE given our cap space, amount of draft picks and the free agents that are available. Many options that are better imo 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted February 19, 2020 Share Posted February 19, 2020 Darn..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlCowlingsTaxiService Posted February 19, 2020 Share Posted February 19, 2020 As soon as Seattle entered thr fray, I figured it was a fore gone conclusion. A catcher of passes will always choose the best thrower of the football, all other factors being relatively equal. I’m sure there’s exceptions to this rule, but I’m too lazy to research it at this moment ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted February 19, 2020 Share Posted February 19, 2020 3 minutes ago, NewEra said: I’m not “down on Knox and Sweeney” either. I’m a realist. We really should give Allen better talent at the TE given our cap space, amount of draft picks and the free agents that are available. Many options that are better imo I actually like Knox and Sweeney......we just need to use them more 1 hour ago, JaCrispy said: This tells me we don’t have a good enough QB to attract FA’s... Yes I am sure that is what that says 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Helpmenow Posted February 19, 2020 Share Posted February 19, 2020 Injury prone and too old. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frostbitmic Posted February 19, 2020 Share Posted February 19, 2020 Just 4 fun ... Austin Hooper Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted February 19, 2020 Share Posted February 19, 2020 1 hour ago, BringBackOrton said: He looked at Washington because of his coach. He also decided to not go there. It remains to be see if Russel will be better then Allen next year......one has peaked and one is making jump's in production year to year. I would have liked to have Olson but its not a season killer or anything.....just need to continue being aggressive pursuing offensive talent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
All_Pro_Bills Posted February 19, 2020 Share Posted February 19, 2020 6 minutes ago, AlCowlingsTaxiService said: As soon as Seattle entered thr fray, I figured it was a fore gone conclusion. A catcher of passes will always choose the best thrower of the football, all other factors being relatively equal. I’m sure there’s exceptions to this rule, but I’m too lazy to research it at this moment ? Me too. I figured the Seahawks would be the choice too. Most likely offered the most dollars and in win-now mode vs. the Bills who might be a year away from a realistic shot at the SB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted February 19, 2020 Share Posted February 19, 2020 8 minutes ago, John from Riverside said: I actually like Knox and Sweeney......we just need to use them more Yes I am sure that is what that says That’s fine John. I like them too. That doesn’t mean we can’t upgrade. Or do you think that their like a top 5 combo in the league? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stinky finger Posted February 19, 2020 Share Posted February 19, 2020 1 hour ago, Elite Poster said: Yeah this one was obvious. Chance to play with Russell in a great organization. Subtle yet hateful. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manther Posted February 19, 2020 Share Posted February 19, 2020 1 hour ago, BuffaloMatt said: 10 games is my over for him in 2020. Being injury prone late in his career makes him too expensive of a risk - Great Job by Beane to pass!! I would agree he can play about 10 games. Maybe, 12 tops. For that price on a one year deal, I would like Olsen. If Olsen likes Seattle more than Buffalo (for various/known reasons). If we paid Olsen $7M, $8M, $9M he wouldn't sign here IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted February 19, 2020 Share Posted February 19, 2020 8 minutes ago, NewEra said: That’s fine John. I like them too. That doesn’t mean we can’t upgrade. Or do you think that their like a top 5 combo in the league? Era I think they could grow into one but I would like to add a good vet TE to go with them....plenty out there. Olson is just a name.....we can find another good one. 1 hour ago, ScottLaw said: Jesus Christ. Any team that is still developing in their 4th year of a rebuild is a total fail. We are not developing....we have made the playoffs in 2 of the last 3 years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted February 19, 2020 Share Posted February 19, 2020 36 minutes ago, 4merper4mer said: The main downside of Seattle signing Olsen is that the legend of Austin Hooper is going to spin out of control for a month. If I never read that bag of hype's name on here again it'll be too soon. You just had to put this out here to "inspire" the natives now, didn't you? No sympathy! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Who Posted February 19, 2020 Share Posted February 19, 2020 17 minutes ago, frostbitmic said: Just 4 fun ... Austin Hooper You're really trying to hurt that 4merper4mer fella, aren't you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JaCrispy Posted February 19, 2020 Share Posted February 19, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, BuffaloBills1998 said: Why does it make you think that? I take it your not a fan of Allen I see Meh, he’s alright... but it seems more like Olsen is not a fan of Allen’s... 25 minutes ago, John from Riverside said: I actually like Knox and Sweeney......we just need to use them more Yes I am sure that is what that says Thanks John...I have to admit I chuckled a little...? Edited February 19, 2020 by JaCrispy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted February 19, 2020 Share Posted February 19, 2020 25 minutes ago, AlCowlingsTaxiService said: As soon as Seattle entered thr fray, I figured it was a fore gone conclusion. A catcher of passes will always choose the best thrower of the football, all other factors being relatively equal. I’m sure there’s exceptions to this rule, but I’m too lazy to research it at this moment ? You being all privy to the negotiations and knowing it had nothing to do with maybe Beane stopping the bidding at $5.5M fully guaranteed and Seattle "sweetening the pot" to $7M? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JaCrispy Posted February 19, 2020 Share Posted February 19, 2020 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: You being all privy to the negotiations and knowing it had nothing to do with maybe Beane stopping the bidding at $5.5M fully guaranteed and Seattle "sweetening the pot" to $7M? (Sigh) Happless, why you always gots to be so rational and stuff...? ? Edited February 19, 2020 by JaCrispy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted February 19, 2020 Share Posted February 19, 2020 3 minutes ago, Dr. Who said: You're really trying to hurt that 4merper4mer fella, aren't you? We can all benefit from more wide-ranging and thorough discussion of FA target Austin Hooper. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IDBillzFan Posted February 19, 2020 Share Posted February 19, 2020 1 hour ago, JaCrispy said: This tells me we don’t have a good enough QB to attract FA’s... This tells me I hate the preseason. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBills1998 Posted February 19, 2020 Share Posted February 19, 2020 5 minutes ago, JaCrispy said: Meh, he’s alright... but it seems more like Olsen is not a fan of Allen’s... I think your looking too much into that lol. No where did he say he wasn’t a fan of Allen’s. I’m glad we didn’t get Olson guys always hurt and isn’t productive anymore 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted February 19, 2020 Share Posted February 19, 2020 3 minutes ago, JaCrispy said: (Sigh) Happless, why you always gots to be so rational and stuff...? It's a blessing and a curse, like Allen says about his strong arm. That, and you wouldn't like me if I turn green 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buddo Posted February 19, 2020 Share Posted February 19, 2020 1 hour ago, ScottLaw said: Jesus Christ. Any team that is still developing in their 4th year of a rebuild is a total fail. You are going to be very pissed on a regular basis then, as the FO mantra is one of 'continuous improvement' and that implies development. In any given year, it could be assumed that the only team that doesn't need development, are the Champions. Guess what, it took KC 6-7 years to go from a rebuild to the SB champs. If the Bills do the same, I won't be unhappy. You will probably still be pissed, about something . 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
auburnbillsbacker Posted February 19, 2020 Share Posted February 19, 2020 I would have been willing to fully guarantee the one year contract and bud a little hight than Sesttle. I think he would have been a great help to Allen next year Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted February 19, 2020 Share Posted February 19, 2020 1 hour ago, Jauronimo said: At least we still have Croom. Looks like hes reasonably well rested. I think hes decent shape from carrying all of Kelly's shopping bags. I thought that stuff was supposed to drain the "Vital Forces" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Who Posted February 19, 2020 Share Posted February 19, 2020 9 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: We can all benefit from more wide-ranging and thorough discussion of FA target Austin Hooper. I suggested we go after him upthread. Don't really know why anyone would be against bringing him in. I live in Atlanta and Hooper is a very good, reliable target. Atlanta can't afford him. We have the cap room to go get him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted February 19, 2020 Share Posted February 19, 2020 2 minutes ago, Dr. Who said: I suggested we go after him upthread. Don't really know why anyone would be against bringing him in. I live in Atlanta and Hooper is a very good, reliable target. Atlanta can't afford him. We have the cap room to go get him. I've been saying for weeks that Hooper is the receiving target I would most like to see us push for. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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AlCowlingsTaxiService Posted February 19, 2020 Share Posted February 19, 2020 25 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: You being all privy to the negotiations and knowing it had nothing to do with maybe Beane stopping the bidding at $5.5M fully guaranteed and Seattle "sweetening the pot" to $7M? Which part of “all other things being equal” didn’t you understand? Also I still stand by my assessment that a vet looking at his last chance at a ring will choose the most likely path towards that goal 1 hour ago, rayray808 said: If Olsen was that good, he would still be a Panther Cmon man .... the NFL isn’t that simple since the salary cap came into existence ... be better Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fansince88 Posted February 19, 2020 Share Posted February 19, 2020 2 hours ago, Nextmanup said: The fish that slipped off the hook! Slipped off or catch and release. Trusting the process. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevie Ray Posted February 19, 2020 Share Posted February 19, 2020 1 hour ago, Buffalo619 said: On one hand you have a Super Bowl caliper coach, with multiple appearances and a win. On the other, a coach who cracks under pressure and can’t get over the hump to beat a divisional rival. Plays conservative to the point of recklessness. Which one would you chose? To be fair, it took 8 seasons as HC on his third team for Pete Carroll to win a Super Bowl. McD just completed his 3rd season and has reached the playoffs 2 out of those 3. Oh and their records in their first 3 seasons as HC - identical at 25-23. Sure Carroll is much more accomplished, but he also has been HC for 14 seasons so it should be expected that he is much more accomplished given his tenure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
formerlyofCtown Posted February 19, 2020 Share Posted February 19, 2020 2 hours ago, BillsMafi$ said: Greg Olsen really liked Buffalo and Washington, and strongly considered both. But the lure of playing with Russell Wilson in Seattle was just too strong. Olsen takes a 1-year, $7 million deal with the Seahawks. -Shefter At least he will be able to watch the SB at home now that he isn’t gonna be in Buffalo. Nobody is getting past SF in the NFC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo86 Posted February 19, 2020 Share Posted February 19, 2020 I'm pretty relieved. While I like what McBeane have accomplished overall, I don't trust them when it comes to former Panthers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stuvian Posted February 19, 2020 Share Posted February 19, 2020 We're still a young team that's building. Seattle is in one player away mode 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CEN-CAL17 Posted February 19, 2020 Share Posted February 19, 2020 16 minutes ago, ScottLaw said: McD isn’t Pete Carroll. Not yet at least. Russell Wilson made him? He’s never started from nothing? What are you even talking about? ?He drafted Wilson and made a bold decision to start him as a rookie. Does he get any credit for developing him? Guy won a Super Bowl. McD hasn’t even won a playoffIf Please look over this roster Pete Carroll tool over in 2010... A lot of the same players who took him to a Super Bowl. That team was loaded. Yeah he hit gold in Russell Wilson, who also played with most of that squad, with even better players at some positions. Now look at the Bills 2017 roster, the craptastic team and McD got them to the playoffs. Ever since Pete has taken over it’s been a place FA desire. They’ve had things going right for them a team built there even before Carroll. So he got lucky drafting Russell Wilson, now he’s a great coach? The rosters McD has had over the past 3 seasons, the difficulties bringing in FAs etc, I doubt Carroll could have done what McD has, at best it’s equal. Carroll ain’t that great. 2010 Seahawks - OL one of the best, Solid TEs, Lynch, good WRs, Secondary one of the best, Great DLine, Curry was one of the best LBs in football at the time.... he took over a franchise is Super Bowl contending shape. McD took over a team that had not made the playoffs in 17 years! https://www.pro-football-reference.com/teams/sea/2010_roster.htm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nuncha Posted February 19, 2020 Share Posted February 19, 2020 3 hours ago, JaCrispy said: This tells me we don’t have a good enough QB to attract FA’s... Many players don't like Buffalo...I'd blame it on that before I'd blame it on JA. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thenorthremembers Posted February 19, 2020 Share Posted February 19, 2020 Ahh not too heartbroken. Didnt expect him to get more than 5.5 total, so happy we didnt pay him 7. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo86 Posted February 19, 2020 Share Posted February 19, 2020 11 minutes ago, CEN-CAL17 said: Please look over this roster Pete Carroll tool over in 2010... A lot of the same players who took him to a Super Bowl. That team was loaded. Yeah he hit gold in Russell Wilson, who also played with most of that squad, with even better players at some positions. Now look at the Bills 2017 roster, the craptastic team and McD got them to the playoffs. Ever since Pete has taken over it’s been a place FA desire. They’ve had things going right for them a team built there even before Carroll. So he got lucky drafting Russell Wilson, now he’s a great coach? The rosters McD has had over the past 3 seasons, the difficulties bringing in FAs etc, I doubt Carroll could have done what McD has, at best it’s equal. Carroll ain’t that great. 2010 Seahawks - OL one of the best, Solid TEs, Lynch, good WRs, Secondary one of the best, Great DLine, Curry was one of the best LBs in football at the time.... he took over a franchise is Super Bowl contending shape. McD took over a team that had not made the playoffs in 17 years! https://www.pro-football-reference.com/teams/sea/2010_roster.htm Carroll didn't inherit that 2010 roster; he built it. He was hired in Jan '10 and given full control over personnel. The link below paints a much more accurate picture of what he actually inherited: Matt Hasselbeck, Edgerrin James, TJ Whosyourmama, etc. They were an aging team that had gone 4-11 and 5-12 in the 2 years prior to Carroll's arrival. https://www.pro-football-reference.com/teams/sea/2009_roster.htm This is not to say that he's a better coach than McDermott, but the fact that Carroll is one of the best acquirors of talent in the game shouldn't be held against him. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Boy Posted February 19, 2020 Share Posted February 19, 2020 3 hours ago, Jauronimo said: This signing and their W-L record the past 10 years tell me Seattle is better than Buffalo and Olsen's chances of winning a championship improve by playing on a better team. Past results have no bearing on the future. Seattle is good but there is a very good chance we are the better team next year. I get Greg’s choice but I , for one, think he screwed the pooch on this one. Our D has the potential to be better and so does our O. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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