Warcodered Posted February 9, 2020 Share Posted February 9, 2020 Well that's not good the new QB seems to be cursed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zow2 Posted February 9, 2020 Share Posted February 9, 2020 I’ve seen more crunching helmet to helmet hits in two games today than you see on a normal NFL weekend. And no flags. Hey It’s not my body but they may want to clean that up a bit. These guys in 15-20 years will be paying a dear price. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Otreply Posted February 9, 2020 Share Posted February 9, 2020 Seriously, Is there any real chance this league is still around six months from now? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davefan66 Posted February 9, 2020 Share Posted February 9, 2020 3 minutes ago, Don Otreply said: Seriously, Is there any real chance this league is still around six months from now? Yep. Financed by Jim McMahon. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Otreply Posted February 9, 2020 Share Posted February 9, 2020 (edited) 13 minutes ago, davefan66 said: Yep. Financed by Jim McMahon. I thought he try this once before and there was not enough interest to keep it alive, and it died, and McMahon and his investors lost a lot of coin. Question still stands, it is less interesting than the college game, no culture, no tradition, and no history, it is a league of players that “aren’t good enough” to play pro ball, its an odd way to lose a whole lot of money. I guess we shall see, well actually someone else is gonna have to see, because I won’t be watching. Edited February 9, 2020 by Don Otreply Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
/dev/null Posted February 9, 2020 Share Posted February 9, 2020 52 minutes ago, PromoTheRobot said: That's a nice crowd in Houston. DC had a decent crowd too. Crowd size is something to keep an eye on. Other than San Antonio, the AAF crowds were abysmal. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted February 9, 2020 Author Share Posted February 9, 2020 19 minutes ago, Don Otreply said: Seriously, Is there any real chance this league is still around six months from now? yeah it will be in the offseason at that point 4 minutes ago, Don Otreply said: don’t worry you don’t need to watch. The Stadiums are full and I bet the ratings are good too. Because the production of the game was actually pretty good Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Real McClappy Posted February 9, 2020 Share Posted February 9, 2020 8 minutes ago, Don Otreply said: I enjoyed it today and will watch tomorrow. I will most likely buy a shirt or hat as well. This is how it starts man. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted February 9, 2020 Author Share Posted February 9, 2020 great Attendance Numbers 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rc2catch Posted February 9, 2020 Share Posted February 9, 2020 (edited) I really enjoyed both games. That was competent football. They did a fantastic job. Long term is still wait and see for me obviously but I could not have scripted it to go much better than it did. Vinnie Mac for the win on opening day Edited February 9, 2020 by Rc2catch 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Do The Reich Thing Posted February 9, 2020 Share Posted February 9, 2020 Don’t know if this was mentioned, but Shawn Oakman is on LA. Anyone remember him? Man... if he didn’t get that bogus false accusation that ruined his life he could’ve really done big things in the NFL. Maybe this can be his bridge. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zow2 Posted February 9, 2020 Share Posted February 9, 2020 keep an eye on injuries. The LA QBs got hurt and the 3rd guy was pretty bad. That will kill a team...poor or injured QBs. Then no one will want to watch that club. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rc2catch Posted February 9, 2020 Share Posted February 9, 2020 1 minute ago, Do The Reich Thing said: Don’t know if this was mentioned, but Shawn Oakman is on LA. Anyone remember him? Man... if he didn’t get that bogus false accusation that ruined his life he could’ve really done big things in the NFL. Maybe this can be his bridge. I remembered him when he about killed that quarterback lol, he crushed that guy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted February 9, 2020 Share Posted February 9, 2020 2 hours ago, MAJBobby said: I guess I will adopt the DC team. They have the most Ex-Bills Cam Phillips got some work in........... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Do The Reich Thing Posted February 9, 2020 Share Posted February 9, 2020 16 minutes ago, Rc2catch said: I remembered him when he about killed that quarterback lol, he crushed that guy I really hope he gets an opportunity in the NFL. He was an unfortunate innocent victim of the #metoo movement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Rc2catch Posted February 9, 2020 Share Posted February 9, 2020 11 minutes ago, Do The Reich Thing said: I really hope he gets an opportunity in the NFL. He was an unfortunate innocent victim of the #metoo movement. If he has NFL talent this platform will get him into a camp come summer. NFL teams HAVE to be watching this, mostly because they can sign these guys dirt cheap. If there are hidden gems or guys with old red flags or whatever they’ll get a shot. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davefan66 Posted February 9, 2020 Share Posted February 9, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, Don Otreply said: I thought he try this once before and there was not enough interest to keep it alive, and it died, and McMahon and his investors lost a lot of coin. Question still stands, it is less interesting than the college game, no culture, no tradition, and no history, it is a league of players that “aren’t good enough” to play pro ball, its an odd way to lose a whole lot of money. I guess we shall see, well actually someone else isgonna have to see, because I won’t be watching. The original question was, will it be around I’m 6 months? I believe yes. 2 years from now? I doubt it. McMahon will do what it takes to play minimum of 2 years. Would want to outdo the AAF. I believe there is more of an appetite for football now, than when XFL-1 was around. Should have a better TV audience than back then. Interesting thing is they don’t get a dime from ESPN or Fox for TV rights so they best have a plan as ticket revenue isn’t going to keep them afloat. edit: Apparently the league is funded for 3 years. Doesn’t mean they won’t pull the plug early. Edited February 9, 2020 by davefan66 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Brown Posted February 9, 2020 Share Posted February 9, 2020 Let's see how it does over the next few weeks. The AAF ratings were great the first weekend and then dropped off quickly. I'd love to see elite college players join the league and make some money they can't at college. Come on Trevor Lawrence and Justin Fields. Be the pioneers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted February 9, 2020 Share Posted February 9, 2020 I'm watching the DC-SEA game on DVR. WTF did Tyree Jackson do on that point after? Was that the called play?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Brown Posted February 9, 2020 Share Posted February 9, 2020 1 minute ago, davefan66 said: The original question was, will it be around I’m 6 months? I believe yes. 2 years from now? I doubt it. McMahon will do what it takes to play minimum of 2 years. Would want to outdo the AAF. I believe there is more of an appetite for football now, than when XFL-1 was around. Should have a better TV audience than back then. Interesting thing is they don’t get a dime from ESPN or Fox for TV rights so they best have a plan as ticket revenue isn’t going to keep them afloat. They're pinning all their long term hopes on a lucrative TV contract. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaybee Posted February 9, 2020 Share Posted February 9, 2020 I was quite pleased with the product. The kickoff rules and the extra point options are pretty cool.. I was surprised with how clean the games were and the overall quality of play. Additionally, the officiating was pretty darn good. I'll be watching this again for sure. ???? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davefan66 Posted February 9, 2020 Share Posted February 9, 2020 2 minutes ago, Doc Brown said: They're pinning all their long term hopes on a lucrative TV contract. One would think so. The NFL basically covers their player salaries with TV revenue every year. There is TV revenue and sponsorships. Have to have a fan base to score the sponsors. Ultimately, will fans support year round football? I’ll be honest, love the NFL but don’t mind the off-season. Can get things done on the weekends... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alphadawg7 Posted February 9, 2020 Share Posted February 9, 2020 6 minutes ago, davefan66 said: The original question was, will it be around I’m 6 months? I believe yes. 2 years from now? I doubt it. McMahon will do what it takes to play minimum of 2 years. Would want to outdo the AAF. I believe there is more of an appetite for football now, than when XFL-1 was around. Should have a better TV audience than back then. Interesting thing is they don’t get a dime from ESPN or Fox for TV rights so they best have a plan as ticket revenue isn’t going to keep them afloat. edit: Apparently the league is funded for 3 years. Doesn’t mean they won’t pull the plug early. No new sports league will ever have any TV rights paying them money at launch, this is standard. Like MLS, MLR, AAF, etc when they started, they wont make money on their TV deals out the gate. The league/teams will pay for production of non national TV games, and the national TV games production cost will likely be covered by the network. But the network keeps all revenue. League like this usually signs a 2 or 3 year deal like this. They need the exposure to succeed, so they don't really have a choice. If the league exceeds early expectations, its not out of the question the networks will open negotiations early, but also its not likely. From what I have read, XFL is on a 3 year TV deal like this. When MLR launched in 2017, it was a 2 year deal (they just started their 3rd season in January). There is no guarantee money will be offered for the rights even when deal has expired. If the league isn't drawing enough, they would likely just extend the original deal. 9 minutes ago, Doc Brown said: They're pinning all their long term hopes on a lucrative TV contract. As does every sports league as that is a main source of revenue for a league Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davefan66 Posted February 9, 2020 Share Posted February 9, 2020 1 minute ago, Alphadawg7 said: No new sports league will ever have any TV rights paying them money at launch, this is standard. Like MLS, MLR, AAF, etc when they started, they wont make money on their TV deals out the gate. The league/teams will pay for production of non national TV games, and the national TV games production cost will likely be covered by the network. But the network keeps all revenue. League like this usually signs a 2 or 3 year deal like this. They need the exposure to succeed, so they don't really have a choice. If the league exceeds early expectations, its not out of the question the networks will open negotiations early, but also its not likely. From what I have read, XFL is on a 3 year TV deal like this. When MLR launched in 2017, it was a 2 year deal (they just started their 3rd season in January). There is no guarantee money will be offered for the rights even when deal has expired. If the league isn't drawing enough, they would likely just extend the original deal. Believe they are on a 3 year deal. May be wrong. From what I read, they are funded for 3 years. Their costs should contain no big surprises from now until then - player/coach cost and stadium costs should be somewhat set. They just can’t depend on TV, ticket or merchandise revenue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Brown Posted February 9, 2020 Share Posted February 9, 2020 5 minutes ago, davefan66 said: One would think so. The NFL basically covers their player salaries with TV revenue every year. There is TV revenue and sponsorships. Have to have a fan base to score the sponsors. Ultimately, will fans support year round football? I’ll be honest, love the NFL but don’t mind the off-season. Can get things done on the weekends... History says no. There's a post Superbowl depression disorder that usually disappears within a couple of weeks that the AFL took advantage of in the early 2000's to get a contract with NBC. Maybe this league will beat the odds though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alphadawg7 Posted February 9, 2020 Share Posted February 9, 2020 (edited) 16 minutes ago, davefan66 said: Believe they are on a 3 year deal. May be wrong. From what I read, they are funded for 3 years. Their costs should contain no big surprises from now until then - player/coach cost and stadium costs should be somewhat set. They just can’t depend on TV, ticket or merchandise revenue. Yeah, read the same thing that McM has funded them for 3 years and is willing to lose money over that time until they can get to TV rev deals. Which probably confirms the existing deal is a 3 year deal. Also, McM isn't carry all the expense. Each of those individually owned teams will have had to come into the league with enough funding to also survive for 3 years (or could have been even longer like 5 years). And thats gross operations before revenue as they can't depend on revenue projections on something that hasn't launched yet. I was involved in the first year of Major League Rugby, and it was run the same way. Edited February 9, 2020 by Alphadawg7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted February 9, 2020 Share Posted February 9, 2020 23 minutes ago, Alphadawg7 said: Yeah, read the same thing that McM has funded them for 3 years and is willing to lose money over that time until they can get to TV rev deals. Which probably confirms the existing deal is a 3 year deal. Also, McM isn't carry all the expense. Each of those individually owned teams will have had to come into the league with enough funding to also survive for 3 years (or could have been even longer like 5 years). And thats gross operations before revenue as they can't depend on revenue projections on something that hasn't launched yet. I was involved in the first year of Major League Rugby, and it was run the same way. huh? Teams are league owned, no? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charles Romes Posted February 9, 2020 Share Posted February 9, 2020 2 Cardale Jones 16/26 291 2td 0int 125.6 rtg XFL could give him a career. He just needs reps to be a backup plus. Would be a great backup for any duel threat qb team. 16 26 291 70 2 0 125.6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
y2zipper Posted February 9, 2020 Share Posted February 9, 2020 3 hours ago, MAJBobby said: Add in that the have already made more revenue in tickets before kickoff than the AAF did the entire year should show there is a market. Also the QB play hasn’t been Atrocious yet like in AAF I definitely think the communication rules for the coaches wear the headset never turns off is a great way to help the quarterback play. But the broadcasting here is definitely very good and this was a good watch today. I'll time in tomorrow also. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
May Day 10 Posted February 9, 2020 Share Posted February 9, 2020 Still zero motivation to watch 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
/dev/null Posted February 9, 2020 Share Posted February 9, 2020 6 minutes ago, May Day 10 said: Still zero motivation to watch and yet you're here 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBillsGospel Posted February 9, 2020 Share Posted February 9, 2020 The last start up league had weird camera angles and it didn't feel like a professional game to me, this had the look and feel of a real somewhat NFL type of game, the crowd was really into it and I actually enjoyed watching it. I was thinking hehateme was going to come running out of the tunnel but that never happened. Hopefully this league will stick, it doesn't need to be the NFL we just need quality football after the Superbowl and leading up to the draft and into the summer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted February 9, 2020 Share Posted February 9, 2020 3 hours ago, Charles Romes said: 2 Cardale Jones 16/26 291 2td 0int 125.6 rtg XFL could give him a career. He just needs reps to be a backup plus. Would be a great backup for any duel threat qb team. 16 26 291 70 2 0 125.6 I might get blistered for saying this but I would like to see a C. Jones with some playing experience would look like as the backup of OUR team Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alphadawg7 Posted February 9, 2020 Share Posted February 9, 2020 4 hours ago, Mr. WEO said: huh? Teams are league owned, no? I don’t think so Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mountain Man Posted February 9, 2020 Share Posted February 9, 2020 It was better than expected but I can't see it surviving. Some of the new novelty elements will become annoying real fast, like the interviews. And the better ones the NFL will quickly take. Whilst it's good to watch football. The standard was terrible If there is any sign of success, the NFL will create its own feeder league, that they control. They won't let the XFL succeedc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted February 9, 2020 Share Posted February 9, 2020 4 hours ago, Alphadawg7 said: I don’t think so yeah he owns all the teams. No franchises Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ProcessTruster Posted February 9, 2020 Share Posted February 9, 2020 (edited) Granted I was down with a brutal head cold yesterday, plopping me squarely in front of the tube all day, but I thought the DC game was very watchable. Anyone else have a viewpoint? wow, post crushed. Edited February 9, 2020 by ProcessTruster Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOUSE Posted February 9, 2020 Share Posted February 9, 2020 Great uniforms Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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