the, "am i a bad person" thread

[teef]

this thread is to discuss whether we are bad people or not.  

 

for instance...at our gym there's a guy in a wheelchair.  i avoid him like the plague.  if i even see him rolling into my area, i pack up shop and run like a little B word.  he's a very nice guy, but he's way over chatty.  on top of that, you always need to help him...hand him weights, spot him, move him to a bench, etc.  i just don't want to deal with in.  i want to go in, not talk, and get right out.  the other day he asked the help of an older guy who really wasn't in physical shape to help him, and it was a mess.  i saw them try to make a transfer, and sure enough they both ended up on the ground.  i figured that now i had to help, but once a younger kid ran over to get them up, i knew i was in the clear and ran away.  

 

am i a bad person?

[Dr. Who]

36 minutes ago, teef said:

this thread is to discuss whether we are bad people or not.  

 

for instance...at our gym there's a guy in a wheelchair.  i avoid him like the plague.  if i even see him rolling into my area, i pack up shop and run like a little B word.  he's a very nice guy, but he's way over chatty.  on top of that, you always need to help him...hand him weights, spot him, move him to a bench, etc.  i just don't want to deal with in.  i want to go in, not talk, and get right out.  the other day he asked the help of an older guy who really wasn't in physical shape to help him, and it was a mess.  i saw them try to make a transfer, and sure enough they both ended up on the ground.  i figured that now i had to help, but once a younger kid ran over to get them up, i knew i was in the clear and ran away.  

 

am i a bad person?

Are you Catholic? There's a fella who has to listen to your scrupulous quibbling over ethical quandaries. You should go see him. I mean, I come to this board to go in, not talk, get right out.

[shrader]

Without reading the story, I'm just going to assume yes.

[Augie]

1 minute ago, shrader said:

Without reading the story, I'm just going to assume yes.

 

I think it’s safe to go with the odds here. 

[teef]

6 minutes ago, Dr. Who said:

Are you Catholic? There's a fella who has to listen to your scrupulous quibbling over ethical quandaries. You should go see him. I mean, I come to this board to go in, not talk, get right out.

i am.  i even have an uncle that's a priest.  i went to 16 years of catholic schooling, (including college).  needless to say, i'm not practicing.

1 minute ago, shrader said:

Without reading the story, I'm just going to assume yes.

this was the correct answer.

[The Poojer]

I'm all for helping people out when they need it, but if they are in need of that much assistance, they should bring someone to help them instead of relying on people/strangers to do it for them.  It's difficult enough dragging yourself to the gym(poor choice of words perhaps), but to have the extra task of being someone's personal assistant adds to that drudgery....i don't think it makes you a bad person at all.  Heck, if i go out for a beer and am not feeling particularly sociable, i make it a point to sit away from people so as to not get caught up in chit chat....sometimes i just want to have a beer in peace.

 

 

49 minutes ago, teef said:

this thread is to discuss whether we are bad people or not.  

 

for instance...at our gym there's a guy in a wheelchair.  i avoid him like the plague.  if i even see him rolling into my area, i pack up shop and run like a little B word.  he's a very nice guy, but he's way over chatty.  on top of that, you always need to help him...hand him weights, spot him, move him to a bench, etc.  i just don't want to deal with in.  i want to go in, not talk, and get right out.  the other day he asked the help of an older guy who really wasn't in physical shape to help him, and it was a mess.  i saw them try to make a transfer, and sure enough they both ended up on the ground.  i figured that now i had to help, but once a younger kid ran over to get them up, i knew i was in the clear and ran away.  

 

am i a bad person?

[Seasons1992]

If he were next to me at Planet Fitness, I'd probably help him quick and say "see ya, have a good workout" and go hit the machines. Instill in him that you're nice, but not there to talk.

I cannot stand the fools who sit on equipment and stare at their phones for 5 minutes; IT'S A GYM, NOT YOUR COUCH, YOU LOSERS!

 

Offer him a free cleaning to make up for things?

[teef]

3 minutes ago, The Poojer said:

I'm all for helping people out when they need it, but if they are in need of that much assistance, they should bring someone to help them instead of relying on people/strangers to do it for them.  It's difficult enough dragging yourself to the gym(poor choice of words perhaps), but to have the extra task of being someone's personal assistant adds to that drudgery....i don't think it makes you a bad person at all.  Heck, if i go out for a beer and am not feeling particularly sociable, i make it a point to sit away from people so as to not get caught up in chit chat....sometimes i just want to have a beer in peace.

 

 

thank you!  he does pretty well, but he needs someone there.  i've helped him in the past and spent time talking to him, but it only gave him an, "in".  i just can't/ don't want to do it every time.   i'm with you about a beer in peace.  sometimes i just want to sit at the bar and have a nice drink in quiet.  

[Steve O]

54 minutes ago, teef said:

this thread is to discuss whether we are bad people or not.  

 

for instance...at our gym there's a guy in a wheelchair.  i avoid him like the plague.  if i even see him rolling into my area, i pack up shop and run like a little B word.  he's a very nice guy, but he's way over chatty.  on top of that, you always need to help him...hand him weights, spot him, move him to a bench, etc.  i just don't want to deal with in.  i want to go in, not talk, and get right out.  the other day he asked the help of an older guy who really wasn't in physical shape to help him, and it was a mess.  i saw them try to make a transfer, and sure enough they both ended up on the ground.  i figured that now i had to help, but once a younger kid ran over to get them up, i knew i was in the clear and ran away.  

 

am i a bad person?

Does not make you a bad person at all. If anything, he's being incredibly presumptuous to think helping him is not an inconvenience to others. As Poojer said, he should bring someone with him, either that or hire a personal trainer. There's a guy in a wheelchair at my gym, asked him a couple times if he needed a hand but he keeps saying he's fine so I stopped offering. 

My bad person thing...have a friend that's 15 years younger than me. His brother was my best friend growing up (died 17 years ago.) Lives down the street from my mother...my 100 year old mother. My mother's probably in better shape than him. Help him put on/take off his compression socks. Take his garbage out. Whatever else he needs around the house. Draw the line at shopping. I hate shopping. He seems to think that if I'm going to Wegman's or BJ's anyways, it isn't an inconvenience for me to shop for him. I already shop for Mom and me, and have to fill in for her aides whenever one is sick or late or whatever (still lives in my childhood home, 24/7 care required.) He has 3 sisters living in town, says they don't mind shopping for him but he hates to inconvenience them. Doesn't seem to have a problem inconveniencing me though. At any rate, now whenever he asks I tell him not sure when I'm shopping again. Am I a bad person for not doing more? Probably. But I really hate shopping.

[Cripple Creek]

2 hours ago, teef said:

this thread is to discuss whether we are bad people or not.  

 

for instance...at our gym there's a guy in a wheelchair.  i avoid him like the plague.  if i even see him rolling into my area, i pack up shop and run like a little B word.  he's a very nice guy, but he's way over chatty.  on top of that, you always need to help him...hand him weights, spot him, move him to a bench, etc.  i just don't want to deal with in.  i want to go in, not talk, and get right out.  the other day he asked the help of an older guy who really wasn't in physical shape to help him, and it was a mess.  i saw them try to make a transfer, and sure enough they both ended up on the ground.  i figured that now i had to help, but once a younger kid ran over to get them up, i knew i was in the clear and ran away.  

 

am i a bad person?

Ed, is that you?

[Gugny]

My neighbor and I are close friends.  We were coworkers/friends for a decade before becoming neighbors.  She's the kind of person who will always help someone out with a smile.

 

We got some snow the other day.  I cleared my driveway and went back inside.  Looking out the living room window, I noticed her driveway had not been cleared; just a small shoveled path that made it appear that someone had begun to shovel, but gave up.

 

I could have gone over and snow blown her driveway.  But her husband's truck was in the driveway. 

 

If he's home, he should be snowblowing, right???  He's a county corrections officer who works nights.  The thing is, the snow stopped overnight.  So it was ready to be taken care of as soon as he got home.

 

He couldn't take the 30 minutes to clear that out for his wife before he went to bed??

 

For that reason, I did not clear their driveway.

 

Am I a bad person???

[Cripple Creek]

5 minutes ago, Gugny said:

My neighbor and I are close friends.  We were coworkers/friends for a decade before becoming neighbors.  She's the kind of person who will always help someone out with a smile.

 

We got some snow the other day.  I cleared my driveway and went back inside.  Looking out the living room window, I noticed her driveway had not been cleared; just a small shoveled path that made it appear that someone had begun to shovel, but gave up.

 

I could have gone over and snow blown her driveway.  But her husband's truck was in the driveway. 

 

If he's home, he should be snowblowing, right???  He's a county corrections officer who works nights.  The thing is, the snow stopped overnight.  So it was ready to be taken care of as soon as he got home.

 

He couldn't take the 30 minutes to clear that out for his wife before he went to bed??

 

For that reason, I did not clear their driveway.

 

Am I a bad person???

If this neighbor knew that you coveted a kitchen appliance and she bought it for you then, yes, you are bad.

[Gugny]

Just now, Cripple Creek said:

If this neighbor knew that you coveted a kitchen appliance and she bought it for you then, yes, you are bad.

 

She is that person.

 

Dammit!

[D. L. Hot-Flamethrower]

When I go to the gym and there is a hot 22 year old in spandex leggings in front of me, and I can only think about 1 thing, does that make me a bad person?

[Boca BIlls]

1 hour ago, Dr. Who said:

Are you Catholic? There's a fella who has to listen to your scrupulous quibbling over ethical quandaries. You should go see him. I mean, I come to this board to go in, not talk, get right out.

This guy's only listen if you are a little boy.

[Seasons1992]

20 minutes ago, D. L. Hot-Flamethrower said:

When I go to the gym and there is a hot 22 year old in spandex leggings in front of me, and I can only think about 1 thing, does that make me a bad person?

 

Well hell.............I'm the WORST person then. It's rampant in there.........

[billsfanmiami(oh)]

31 minutes ago, Gugny said:

My neighbor and I are close friends.  We were coworkers/friends for a decade before becoming neighbors.  She's the kind of person who will always help someone out with a smile.

 

We got some snow the other day.  I cleared my driveway and went back inside.  Looking out the living room window, I noticed her driveway had not been cleared; just a small shoveled path that made it appear that someone had begun to shovel, but gave up.

 

I could have gone over and snow blown her driveway.  But her husband's truck was in the driveway. 

 

If he's home, he should be snowblowing, right???  He's a county corrections officer who works nights.  The thing is, the snow stopped overnight.  So it was ready to be taken care of as soon as he got home.

 

He couldn't take the 30 minutes to clear that out for his wife before he went to bed??

 

For that reason, I did not clear their driveway.

 

Am I a bad person???

Are you hitting it? Either way, the answer is no. 

[KD in CA]

25 minutes ago, D. L. Hot-Flamethrower said:

When I go to the gym and there is a hot 22 year old in spandex leggings in front of me, and I can only think about 1 thing, does that make me a bad person?

 

Whether the Bills should go WR in round 1?

[D. L. Hot-Flamethrower]

15 minutes ago, KD in CA said:

 

Whether the Bills should go WR in round 1?

Sometimes my Fomo motivates me to go to the gym!

[Cripple Creek]

2 minutes ago, Bandito said:

As someone who has studied numerous political philosophers, you should read The Leviathan by Thomas Hobbes. An excellent read about how people are born bad. Of course he also promotes the idea of absolute monarchy, which isn't a very good idea.

I prefer Calvin &.

[Seasons1992]

23 minutes ago, Bandito said:

As someone who has studied numerous political philosophers, you should read The Leviathan by Thomas Hobbes. An excellent read about how people are born bad. Of course he also promotes the idea of absolute monarchy, which isn't a very good idea.

 

[Captain Hindsight]

Sometimes at work, I read a Bills message board. Am I a bad person?

[Marv's Neighbor]

You guys need to get a grip!  We are all BILLS fans, and having to put up with the past 25 years gives all of us a pass.  There are no bad people here.

[Pine Barrens Mafia]

7 hours ago, Gugny said:

My neighbor and I are close friends.  We were coworkers/friends for a decade before becoming neighbors.  She's the kind of person who will always help someone out with a smile.

 

We got some snow the other day.  I cleared my driveway and went back inside.  Looking out the living room window, I noticed her driveway had not been cleared; just a small shoveled path that made it appear that someone had begun to shovel, but gave up.

 

I could have gone over and snow blown her driveway.  But her husband's truck was in the driveway. 

 

If he's home, he should be snowblowing, right???  He's a county corrections officer who works nights.  The thing is, the snow stopped overnight.  So it was ready to be taken care of as soon as he got home.

 

He couldn't take the 30 minutes to clear that out for his wife before he went to bed??

 

For that reason, I did not clear their driveway.

 

Am I a bad person???

 

No. The man of the house is responsible.

[RochesterRob]

10 hours ago, teef said:

this thread is to discuss whether we are bad people or not.  

 

for instance...at our gym there's a guy in a wheelchair.  i avoid him like the plague.  if i even see him rolling into my area, i pack up shop and run like a little B word.  he's a very nice guy, but he's way over chatty.  on top of that, you always need to help him...hand him weights, spot him, move him to a bench, etc.  i just don't want to deal with in.  i want to go in, not talk, and get right out.  the other day he asked the help of an older guy who really wasn't in physical shape to help him, and it was a mess.  i saw them try to make a transfer, and sure enough they both ended up on the ground.  i figured that now i had to help, but once a younger kid ran over to get them up, i knew i was in the clear and ran away.  

 

am i a bad person?

  With the ball busting out of the way I will say the following.  You are not obligated to be his life partner.  He needs to learn his limitations and work within his capabilities.  Just because you look young does not mean that you do not have a serious health concern that you need to protect from being made worse.  A health spa does not lend itself to being automatically being a social center.  I would assume that if I went in alone I would be on my own in terms of using the equipment and other facilities.  He has the option of going to other places if socializing is of paramount importance.  Where it gets dicey is what I have to deal with in church every Sunday.  A guy comes in every Sunday and while not in a wheel chair he has definite mobility problems.  He also wants to talk at length and wants to know personal information.  He also has problems finding his indoor voice.  I greet him as he is seated and ask a general how is he doing then generally go back to reading something scripture related.  Sometimes he accepts that and sometimes he will move right down next to me before Mass.  I keep the conversation fairly impersonal in part to protect me as nobody needs to know how big my house is or what my business may be worth.  For a while he got flustered but now I think that he accepts but is still a little miffed as he says very little.  I think some people get a little irritated at me at church but the way I look at it "my life, my privacy."  I don't ask somebody why their spouse is not with them or what their salary is.  If they want to tell me they will and even at that point I may want to not know anything.  

[/dev/null]

A few weeks ago some guy brings his laptop in that had BSoD.  He was giving a training class later that day and needed to get his presentation off the hard drive.

It was close to lunch time and I didn't feel like decrypting the drive.  So i told him the drive failed and to come back in the morning and pick up the laptop

 

Am I a horrible human being?

 

Yeah I know, but meh

[KD in CA]

9 minutes ago, /dev/null said:

A few weeks ago some guy brings his laptop in that had BSoD.  He was giving a training class later that day and needed to get his presentation off the hard drive.

It was close to lunch time and I didn't feel like decrypting the drive.  So i told him the drive failed and to come back in the morning and pick up the laptop

 

Am I a horrible human being?

 

Yeah I know, but meh

 

I supposed I'd have to know what BSoD was to make a complete judgement on your horribleness.

 

p.s.  Did you search his laptop for naked pictures of his wife?

[Pine Barrens Mafia]

9 hours ago, /dev/null said:

A few weeks ago some guy brings his laptop in that had BSoD.  He was giving a training class later that day and needed to get his presentation off the hard drive.

It was close to lunch time and I didn't feel like decrypting the drive.  So i told him the drive failed and to come back in the morning and pick up the laptop

 

Am I a horrible human being?

 

Yeah I know, but meh

 

No. Because ***** users.

[BringBackFergy]

22 hours ago, teef said:

this thread is to discuss whether we are bad people or not.  

 

for instance...at our gym there's a guy in a wheelchair.  i avoid him like the plague.  if i even see him rolling into my area, i pack up shop and run like a little B word.  he's a very nice guy, but he's way over chatty.  on top of that, you always need to help him...hand him weights, spot him, move him to a bench, etc.  i just don't want to deal with in.  i want to go in, not talk, and get right out.  the other day he asked the help of an older guy who really wasn't in physical shape to help him, and it was a mess.  i saw them try to make a transfer, and sure enough they both ended up on the ground.  i figured that now i had to help, but once a younger kid ran over to get them up, i knew i was in the clear and ran away.  

 

am i a bad person?

Absolutely not. 
 

 

 

Now where’s that post about the babe in leggings doing squats ....

[aristocrat]

there is a guy who is in a wheelchair and comes to my gym but he seems to have it all figured out. gets his weights, transfers onto benches and back. this guy needs some tips it would seem. 

[NoHuddleKelly12]

"When they kept on questioning him, he straightened up and said to them, 'Let any one of you who is without sin be the first to throw a stone...'" John 8:7 New International Version (NIV). 

 

You'll get no judgment from me OP! 

[LeviF]

6 minutes ago, NoHuddleKelly12 said:

"When they kept on questioning him, he straightened up and said to them, 'Let any one of you who is without sin be the first to throw a stone...'" John 8:7 New International Version (NIV). 

 

You'll get no judgment from me OP! 

 

"As soon as he was done saying this, a stone flew over the crowd's heads and smacked the adulteress in the throat.

"Then Jesus said, DAMMIT, MOM!"

[dollars 2 donuts]

On 1/21/2020 at 9:34 AM, teef said:

this thread is to discuss whether we are bad people or not.  

 

for instance...at our gym there's a guy in a wheelchair.  i avoid him like the plague.  if i even see him rolling into my area, i pack up shop and run like a little B word.  he's a very nice guy, but he's way over chatty.  on top of that, you always need to help him...hand him weights, spot him, move him to a bench, etc.  i just don't want to deal with in.  i want to go in, not talk, and get right out.  the other day he asked the help of an older guy who really wasn't in physical shape to help him, and it was a mess.  i saw them try to make a transfer, and sure enough they both ended up on the ground.  i figured that now i had to help, but once a younger kid ran over to get them up, i knew i was in the clear and ran away.  

 

am i a bad person?

 

42 minutes ago, NoHuddleKelly12 said:

"When they kept on questioning him, he straightened up and said to them, 'Let any one of you who is without sin be the first to throw a stone...'" John 8:7 New International Version (NIV). 

 

You'll get no judgment from me OP! 

 

 

Yeah...teef, man, we are all sinners and we all fall short at times.  The guilt you are expressing here shows you feel something, so don't beat yourself up at all.

 

However, I believe you would likely feel better if you did something to counter your feelings...not necessarily to the person you are trying to avoid, but maybe pay it forward by doing something nice to someone else when they appear to need it.

 

 

[WhoTom]

In general, when someone has enough of a conscience to ask, "Am I a bad person?" the answer is a resounding "No."

 

In general, that is. Your mileage may vary. ?

 

[Augie]

4 hours ago, dollars 2 donuts said:

 

 

 

Yeah...teef, man, we are all sinners and we all fall short at times.  The guilt you are expressing here shows you feel something, so don't beat yourself up at all.

 

However, I believe you would likely feel better if you did something to counter your feelings...not necessarily to the person you are trying to avoid, but maybe pay it forward by doing something nice to someone else when they appear to need it.

 

 

 

Because I am such a decent person, I am available to be on the receiving end of the bolded. I’m here for you, buddy! We’ll make this good for you! 

 

The more you do, the better you will feel! Trust me! 

 

.

Edited January 23, 2020 by Augie

[LeGOATski]

On 1/21/2020 at 7:34 AM, teef said:

this thread is to discuss whether we are bad people or not.  

 

for instance...at our gym there's a guy in a wheelchair.  i avoid him like the plague.  if i even see him rolling into my area, i pack up shop and run like a little B word.  he's a very nice guy, but he's way over chatty.  on top of that, you always need to help him...hand him weights, spot him, move him to a bench, etc.  i just don't want to deal with in.  i want to go in, not talk, and get right out.  the other day he asked the help of an older guy who really wasn't in physical shape to help him, and it was a mess.  i saw them try to make a transfer, and sure enough they both ended up on the ground.  i figured that now i had to help, but once a younger kid ran over to get them up, i knew i was in the clear and ran away.  

 

am i a bad person?

All that just to let us know you work out...

[teef]

11 hours ago, LeGOATski said:

All that just to let us know you work out...

you would think at least one person would have asked for shirtless picks.  one...

[dollars 2 donuts]

14 hours ago, Augie said:

 

Because I am such a decent person, I am available to be on the receiving end of the bolded. I’m here for you, buddy! We’ll make this good for you! 

 

The more you do, the better you will feel! Trust me! 

 

.

@teef

 

 

*

 

 

 

 

 

*  Augie would love a pony.

[Jon in Pasadena]

On 1/21/2020 at 8:35 AM, Cripple Creek said:

Ed, is that you?

Did we ever actually find out why Ed is a horrible person?  I can't recall...

[Chandler#81]

On 1/21/2020 at 1:18 PM, Captain Hindsight said:

Sometimes at work, I read a Bills message board. Am I a bad person?

You actually read them? Versus opine on the title subject matter??

 

freak.