thebandit27 Posted January 7, 2020 Share Posted January 7, 2020 I’d love Ruggs, but he won’t be there at 22. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Barbarian Posted January 7, 2020 Share Posted January 7, 2020 5 hours ago, Canadian Bills Fan said: Who do you think we will draft in round 1? I'm calling my shot now and saying Laviska Shenault WR from Colorado Laviska Shenault, 6-2/220 Wide Receiver Colorado Laviska Shenault Scouting Report By Charlie Campbell Strengths: Rare toughness Strong build Is a fighter Doesn't hesitate to get physical Dangerous run-after-the-catch skills Elusive open-field runner Has a second gear as a runner Picks up yards after contact Quality route runner Willing to go across the middle Good hands Quality height Can generate separation Tracks the ball well Good technique Adept at finding soft spots in zone Plays hurt Makes big plays in the clutch Versatile receiver Could be cross-trained as a X - split end -, Y - flanker -, or Z - slot Phenomenal fit for a west coast offense Able to contribute as a short-yardage running back Weaknesses: Durability Gets banged up Good, but not great, speed Good, but not great, size thats who im going with, Bills however seem to have a different draft board than most as i was shocked we didn't pick DK Metcalf and even more surprised we drafted Singletary in the third when he was considered a 5th rounder. So hard to say who is on there board and who they will take but my gut says they wont take Shenault. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canadian Bills Fan Posted January 7, 2020 Author Share Posted January 7, 2020 3 minutes ago, Buffalo Barbarian said: thats who im going with, Bills however seem to have a different draft board than most as i was shocked we didn't pick DK Metcalf and even more surprised we drafted Singletary in the third when he was considered a 5th rounder. So hard to say who is on there board and who they will take but my gut says they wont take Shenault. I agree. As long as its a WR in round 1 I will be happy. Unless someone falls 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Do The Reich Thing Posted January 7, 2020 Share Posted January 7, 2020 I like Tee Higgins over Shenault because he has proven it in the spotlight more. However... I'll make my decision after free agency Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Ripster Posted January 7, 2020 Share Posted January 7, 2020 I think RB position is also too deep to grab any RB other than Swift or Jonathon Taylor in the first. Dobbins, Aj Dillion, Cam Akers, Eno and Etienne are all gonna be available in the second and third. I trust the management to go BPA in the first and maybe try and grab 2 picks (WR+RB) in the second round instead of sliding up for a specific WR in the first. Hell, with that strategy they could even go WR, RB, WR and bolster the offence with 3 skill positions before the third round even begins. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted January 7, 2020 Share Posted January 7, 2020 2 minutes ago, The_Ripster said: I think RB position is also too deep to grab any RB other than Swift or Jonathon Taylor in the first. Dobbins, Aj Dillion, Cam Akers, Eno and Etienne are all gonna be available in the second and third. I trust the management to go BPA in the first and maybe try and grab 2 picks (WR+RB) in the second round instead of sliding up for a specific WR in the first. Hell, with that strategy they could even go WR, RB, WR and bolster the offence with 3 skill positions before the third round even begins. Dobbins goes before both IMO. Etienne may as well. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reed83HOF Posted January 7, 2020 Share Posted January 7, 2020 1 hour ago, The Jokeman said: Way to early but Curtis Weaver be the guy I'd say at this moment. Hopefully it's not Sammy Watkins Redux 2. It's so hard to say this early - there are good WR prospects throughout and we will probably take 2. You have the prospects tier within the WR group if let's say the top 5 are tier 1 and the next tier has 4 - what is the deference between the tiers? If the top tier is gone before 22 - is it a talent reach to go to tier 2 or do you go to the next position group? I think Beane would make the slight move up to grab one of the top tier WRs, but he won't give away next year's #1. It will be an Edmunds style trade and past history tells us it will be the freakish athlete who has a super high ceiling... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dablitzkrieg Posted January 7, 2020 Share Posted January 7, 2020 2 hours ago, ngbills said: Amari Cooper in FA Best Edge Rusher or OL at 22 Get best WR on the board in the 2nd round Cooper would be a huge mistake as he disappears in big games Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted January 7, 2020 Share Posted January 7, 2020 I’ll just throw out a name that I haven’t seen yet to be different - Kenneth Murray. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reed83HOF Posted January 7, 2020 Share Posted January 7, 2020 1 hour ago, SCBills said: I put the odds of us keeping all our draft picks at .0001% We have depth in a lot of areas, and plenty of young talent. We lack a cornerstone pass rusher and wide receiver - Could also use an upgrade at RT depending on Ford. While I hate losing draft picks due to how well it seems this staff scouts/develops, this would be a year to flip picks for players and/or move up. 100% I really think Yannick is the pass rush target and RT could be had in the 30s to 40s if we don't sign Conklin. There looks like there could be some good safety depth in RD3 as well. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Ripster Posted January 7, 2020 Share Posted January 7, 2020 1 minute ago, Kirby Jackson said: Dobbins goes before both IMO. Etienne may as well. Hey, you could be right! I like Dobbins a lot also, although I think Etienne will have size skeptics despite his blazing speed and for some reason right now all the pundits on all the mocks have Swift pegged as that guy going #1. I think it's because of his versatility catching the football honestly which the Bills could really use. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TroutDog Posted January 7, 2020 Share Posted January 7, 2020 53 minutes ago, BillsVet said: When McD talked about there being "one voice" at OBD when he was hired, that wasn't just for PR reasons. He is a control-freak, and I say that in a positive way. He's also the one building the culture and the front office is supporting that effort in personnel evaluation, among other things. The players are guys that he can work with. I'm not saying other people don't get to communicate, only that he's leading this thing. Yeah, I wouldn’t agree with your take. Beane handles that end with input from McD, in my opinion. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebandit27 Posted January 7, 2020 Share Posted January 7, 2020 1 hour ago, BillsVet said: When McD talked about there being "one voice" at OBD when he was hired, that wasn't just for PR reasons. He is a control-freak, and I say that in a positive way. He's also the one building the culture and the front office is supporting that effort in personnel evaluation, among other things. The players are guys that he can work with. I'm not saying other people don't get to communicate, only that he's leading this thing. Curious to know if you’ve seen the Bills’ video from inside the draft room for 2019? Beane is in charge; no question about it. It’s his show 100%. Now I’m positive that he relies on Schoen, Morgan, Gaine, and McDermott, but there’s no ambiguity regarding who has final say. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted January 7, 2020 Share Posted January 7, 2020 6 hours ago, stony said: Tons of WR talent to be had in rounds 2 & 3, too. Good lets get another one in round 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gambit Posted January 7, 2020 Share Posted January 7, 2020 6 hours ago, Canadian Bills Fan said: Who do you think we will draft in round 1? I'm calling my shot now and saying Laviska Shenault WR from Colorado Laviska Shenault, 6-2/220 Wide Receiver Colorado Laviska Shenault Scouting Report By Charlie Campbell Strengths: Rare toughness Strong build Is a fighter Doesn't hesitate to get physical Dangerous run-after-the-catch skills Elusive open-field runner Has a second gear as a runner Picks up yards after contact Quality route runner Willing to go across the middle Good hands Quality height Can generate separation Tracks the ball well Good technique Adept at finding soft spots in zone Plays hurt Makes big plays in the clutch Versatile receiver Could be cross-trained as a X - split end -, Y - flanker -, or Z - slot Phenomenal fit for a west coast offense Able to contribute as a short-yardage running back Weaknesses: Durability Gets banged up Good, but not great, speed Good, but not great, size This is exactly who I want. Durability is the only reason imo why he would fall to us. The guy is a beast. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Jokeman Posted January 7, 2020 Share Posted January 7, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, Reed83HOF said: It's so hard to say this early - there are good WR prospects throughout and we will probably take 2. You have the prospects tier within the WR group if let's say the top 5 are tier 1 and the next tier has 4 - what is the deference between the tiers? If the top tier is gone before 22 - is it a talent reach to go to tier 2 or do you go to the next position group? I think Beane would make the slight move up to grab one of the top tier WRs, but he won't give away next year's #1. It will be an Edmunds style trade and past history tells us it will be the freakish athlete who has a super high ceiling... I get it but if we're looking for a size WR who can play on the outside and be in our top 3 (with Brown and Beasley) I like talking a pass rusher to replace Shaq in Round 1 like Weaver and a guy like Michael Pittman Jr in Round 2. Edited January 7, 2020 by The Jokeman 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Vader Posted January 7, 2020 Share Posted January 7, 2020 1 hour ago, Kirby Jackson said: I’ll just throw out a name that I haven’t seen yet to be different - Kenneth Murray. Do you think he's a first round pick? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted January 7, 2020 Share Posted January 7, 2020 2 hours ago, Buffalo Barbarian said: thats who im going with, Bills however seem to have a different draft board than most as i was shocked we didn't pick DK Metcalf and even more surprised we drafted Singletary in the third when he was considered a 5th rounder. So hard to say who is on there board and who they will take but my gut says they wont take Shenault. I really dontt think DS was considered a 5th round pick at the time of the draft.....it seemed to me he got drafted right around where predicted (a good thing for us) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsCelticsAngelsBama Posted January 7, 2020 Share Posted January 7, 2020 K'Lavon Chaisson OLB LSU 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Floydboy12 Posted January 7, 2020 Share Posted January 7, 2020 (edited) I would imagine the Bills will move up or down with an eye toward edge rushers or corner in the first. I like CB Bryce Hall of UVA in the area Bills are picking. In the middle rounds I hope they can grab WR Lynn Bowden from UK. Edited January 7, 2020 by Floydboy12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ayjent Posted January 7, 2020 Share Posted January 7, 2020 1st Round Mekhi Becton T, Louisville. Move Ford inside. Also contingency on Dawkins wanting too much money when his rookie contract is up. Or Justin Jefferson, Wr LSU 2nd Round Michael Pittman Jr., Wr USC or Jonathan Greenard, DE Florida 3rd Round Jordan Love, QB, Utah State 4th Round LaMichael Perine, RB Florida Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Ripster Posted January 7, 2020 Share Posted January 7, 2020 33 minutes ago, Mark Vader said: Do you think he's a first round pick? I think he is. That guy hits like a truck. Pure defender. Mid - Late first. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whatdrought Posted January 7, 2020 Share Posted January 7, 2020 Shenault is my pick as well. If Daboll is here, he's gonna look at the versatility and drool. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Ripster Posted January 7, 2020 Share Posted January 7, 2020 4 minutes ago, Ayjent said: 1st Round Mekhi Becton T, Louisville. Move Ford inside. Also contingency on Dawkins wanting too much money when his rookie contract is up. Or Justin Jefferson, Wr LSU 2nd Round Michael Pittman Jr., Wr USC or Jonathan Greenard, DE Florida 3rd Round Jordan Love, QB, Utah State 4th Round LaMichael Perine, RB Florida Developing OLinemen takes so much time tho dude. There are too many weapons available to go for a shield in this one. Maybe OL with the 4th or something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nester Posted January 7, 2020 Share Posted January 7, 2020 (edited) Would be ok with OL in the 1st or 2nd. i want a top 5 OL! we also need a OLB to replace Lorenzo o. another studs LB to compliment edmunds and Milano would be great. We need more depth at the LB position. Edited January 7, 2020 by Nester Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thunderingsquid Posted January 7, 2020 Share Posted January 7, 2020 (edited) Higgins. Edited January 7, 2020 by thunderingsquid Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ayjent Posted January 7, 2020 Share Posted January 7, 2020 5 minutes ago, The_Ripster said: Developing OLinemen takes so much time tho dude. There are too many weapons available to go for a shield in this one. Maybe OL with the 4th or something. Not really - OL players that are smart and well coached can make an immediate impact. OL builds a foundation for a dominant offense for years. Can’t get effective play from backs and WRs without good blocking. Thinking that the Bills are just a WR or other playmaker away is short term thinking and if anything WR has proven to be a position that can take a long time to develop. They need weapons at WR but this draft is historically deep at WR and they can pick up at least one that is starting caliber in probably the first 5 rounds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Ripster Posted January 7, 2020 Share Posted January 7, 2020 1 minute ago, Ayjent said: Not really - OL players that are smart and well coached can make an immediate impact. OL builds a foundation for a dominant offense for years. Can’t get effective play from backs and WRs without good blocking. Thinking that the Bills are just a WR or other playmaker away is short term thinking and if anything WR has proven to be a position that can take a long time to develop. They need weapons at WR but this draft is historically deep at WR and they can pick up at least one that is starting caliber in probably the first 5 rounds. We built a whole new oline last offseason for chump change aside from Mitch Morse. if we can bring in another quality OL FA then there should be no reason to draft OL in this draft and dude OL take time to adapt to the speed almost more than any position. JA had nobody except john brown knox and beasley most games and Daboll was reluctant to really lean on singletary regardless of his stellar production behind a slightly better than mediocre OL. We need weapons in rounds 1, 2, and 3. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted January 7, 2020 Share Posted January 7, 2020 7 hours ago, stony said: Tons of WR talent to be had in rounds 2 & 3, too. If they waste this draft on a lineman in the first, no bueno. No more linemen in the draft. Skill players. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stony Posted January 7, 2020 Share Posted January 7, 2020 2 minutes ago, Joe in Winslow said: If they waste this draft on a lineman in the first, no bueno. No more linemen in the draft. Skill players. Fine with me. I'm just thinking there might be more than one WR taken in the first few rounds. Great year for it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BADOLBILZ Posted January 7, 2020 Share Posted January 7, 2020 8 hours ago, Canadian Bills Fan said: Who do you think we will draft in round 1? I'm calling my shot now and saying Laviska Shenault WR from Colorado Laviska Shenault, 6-2/220 Wide Receiver Colorado Laviska Shenault Scouting Report By Charlie Campbell I don't have a shot to call yet but this dude reminds me so much of Cordarelle Patterson when he was coming out of Tennessee. I've watched a number of his games and not been overwhelmed. When you get the ball in his hands he can be very dangerous but I don't see an every down NFL wide receiver in his game. The comps to Sammy Watkins are way off..........Watkins was far more advanced and had remarkable agility and ball tracking ability. At the very least he is VERY raw as a receiver which is not what they need going into hopefully a SB run season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victory Formation Posted January 7, 2020 Share Posted January 7, 2020 Trade out of the first, load up on picks. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reed83HOF Posted January 7, 2020 Share Posted January 7, 2020 4 minutes ago, Sunshower said: Trade out of the first, load up on picks. We need elite talent, not more picks; try again 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach Tuesday Posted January 7, 2020 Share Posted January 7, 2020 18 minutes ago, BADOLBILZ said: I don't have a shot to call yet but this dude reminds me so much of Cordarelle Patterson when he was coming out of Tennessee. I've watched a number of his games and not been overwhelmed. When you get the ball in his hands he can be very dangerous but I don't see an every down NFL wide receiver in his game. The comps to Sammy Watkins are way off..........Watkins was far more advanced and had remarkable agility and ball tracking ability. At the very least he is VERY raw as a receiver which is not what they need going into hopefully a SB run season. Patterson is a good comp - except from what I've seen he has legit ball-tracking skills. Watching clips yesterday I thought he looked like a combination of Patterson and Steve Smith. He goes and gets it. I could be wrong but he doesn't look too raw to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reed83HOF Posted January 7, 2020 Share Posted January 7, 2020 15 minutes ago, BADOLBILZ said: I don't have a shot to call yet but this dude reminds me so much of Cordarelle Patterson when he was coming out of Tennessee. I've watched a number of his games and not been overwhelmed. When you get the ball in his hands he can be very dangerous but I don't see an every down NFL wide receiver in his game. The comps to Sammy Watkins are way off..........Watkins was far more advanced and had remarkable agility and ball tracking ability. At the very least he is VERY raw as a receiver which is not what they need going into hopefully a SB run season. I actually think Daboll earns his worth with knowing the Alabama WRs and my guess is that we won't move up for Jeudy unless he drops close to 10, my guess is Ruggs. He checks every box Beane has shown thus far in his first round draft picks - beyond special athletically and super high ceiling. Ruggs may be the fastest WR in the class and plays with ridiculous breakaway ability once the ball is in his hands. He may not be as complete as other receivers, but his play making ability is rare. Ruggs is far from just a speed receiver, though. He has shown flashes of nuance in his route tree through sinking his hips into his cuts and showing off body control when flipping his hips or making tough adjustments to the ball. He has natural ball skills and can track down balls at a high level. Ruggs is also a tough runner after the catch, showing off impressive contact balance and determination for a receiver with his frame. The dynamic playmaker is an athletic mismatch for just about any cornerback, and he has shown he has more tools in his skill set than the average speedy receiver. Pros - Unbelievable speed. There won’t be many - if any - players on opposing defenses that can keep pace with him. Absolutely destroys pursuit angles with the ball in his hands. Rare ability to accelerate and achieve unprecedented speed. Isn’t just a fast guy - football skills are absolutely present at a high level. Features outstanding body control and ball skills that make him effective in contested situations. Plenty of reps that illustrate his ability to elevate and win through contact when necessary. Has no issues establishing his frame at the catch point and hauling in the football outside his frame with extension. Makes excellent adjustments to the football in every direction. Competitive demeanor is evident in everything he does. Works his tail off to block and competes with the ball in his hands post-catch. Cons - A touch lean but plenty big for his size. Has room for technical growth as a route runner. As it stands, he is fully capable of separating based on athleticism but he can be even more dangerous with more work selling breaks and creating leverage. He has RARE run after catch ability and is a threat to take it the distance whenever he touches the football. For a WR he displays good lower body strength to run through arm tackles. He is well coached and will get his correct route depth. He’s disciplined and plays hard when he doesn’t have the football, evidenced in his willingness to be a stalk blocker down the field on run plays. In the passing game he is excellent. If you do not reroute him at the LOS, he will beat you with excellent foot quickness or good upper body strength. When he beats you off the line, it could be a TD every time. For this reason he forces corners to play soft press at the LOS. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted January 7, 2020 Share Posted January 7, 2020 15 minutes ago, Sunshower said: Trade out of the first, load up on picks. The roster is already packed with a lot of talent....to me it does not make sense to try to fill the roster with low salaries/project guys I would like to not do to much trading up and would like to see us have a nice boring draft where we pick at our positions.....Beane has been a ninja at finding late round guys that actually make contributions (Sweeney and Johnson should both have bigger roles this next season and were excellent picks for where they were drafted) This is a great draft for us because it is deep in positions that we need.......imagine coming out of this draft with TWO good wide receivers? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted January 7, 2020 Share Posted January 7, 2020 1 hour ago, Mark Vader said: Do you think he's a first round pick? Borderline but would be a nice replacement for Lorax Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reddogblitz Posted January 7, 2020 Share Posted January 7, 2020 I don't have a name but it's gonna be a defensive player, probably a DB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victory Formation Posted January 7, 2020 Share Posted January 7, 2020 26 minutes ago, Reed83HOF said: We need elite talent, not more picks; try again RT, CB2, RB, WR, WR, LE, RE, K, P, LB, LB Not as deep as you think young padawan. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
noacls Posted January 7, 2020 Share Posted January 7, 2020 Grant Delpit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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