YoloinOhio Posted December 13, 2019 Author Share Posted December 13, 2019 7 minutes ago, GoBills808 said: Yeah but just read through that guy's feed a little and it's pretty obvious he's their janitor who tricked Twitter into the blue check, I was more talking about the people who actually do something football related at PFF Haha his claim to fame is that he was a contestant on the Bachelorette Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Hapless Bills Fan Posted December 13, 2019 Share Posted December 13, 2019 4 hours ago, YoloinOhio said: Should we all have turkey again on Sunday for good luck ? Oooh, good point. We had lasagna and cheesecake before the Dallas game. Perhaps I should serve that Sunday. 4 hours ago, YoloinOhio said: 4 hours ago, MAJBobby said: JuJu looks like he might be out. Or not Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted December 13, 2019 Share Posted December 13, 2019 2 hours ago, Bangarang said: I better not see you quoting PFF or DVOA when Allen and this offense become elite. Fair Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted December 13, 2019 Author Share Posted December 13, 2019 6 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: Oooh, good point. We had lasagna and cheesecake before the Dallas game. Perhaps I should serve that Sunday. Or not I think that regarding juju, he will play. I don’t think he or Conner are 100% though and it’s maybe preferable to have some hobbled guys out there. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted December 13, 2019 Share Posted December 13, 2019 45 minutes ago, atlbillsfan1975 said: Looks like percentage for precipitation went from 10% yesterday to 40% today. Looks like could be a rain/snow mix. Does Pitts get lake effect like Buffalo? That would be "No", on the grounds that they aren't on or near a lake Currently alleged to be high of 37, low of 30, partly cloudy. But, rain Fri and Sat (just rain - not mix) and Mon/Tues after a warm front comes through, so it all depends on how fast said front boogies along. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColoradoBills Posted December 13, 2019 Share Posted December 13, 2019 57 minutes ago, atlbillsfan1975 said: Do people know that watching games is still the best way to evaluate players and a teams performance? It would seem not. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snamsnoops Posted December 13, 2019 Share Posted December 13, 2019 3 hours ago, Greg S said: http://www.gridiron-uniforms.com/GUD/controller/controller.php?action=main White over blue it is. I'll take any thing over red on red! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tesla03 Posted December 13, 2019 Share Posted December 13, 2019 2 hours ago, Big C said: So we lose a hard fought battle with the ravens and all of a sudden everyone thinks we won't be able to handle Duck? I get their defense is tough but we should win this game. no one is worried about our defense ppl are concerned about Dabboll calling another poor game and Allen not being able to beat a top defense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warcodered Posted December 13, 2019 Share Posted December 13, 2019 52 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: Awesome. Duck is from the south. Nope . Meanwhile Dak is crushing it with back to back weeks over 300.? 1 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoBills808 Posted December 13, 2019 Share Posted December 13, 2019 6 minutes ago, Tesla03 said: no one is worried about our defense ppl are concerned about Dabboll calling another poor game and Allen not being able to beat a top defense. Already beat Dallas so no worries there Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted December 13, 2019 Author Share Posted December 13, 2019 4 minutes ago, GoBills808 said: Already beat Dallas so no worries there And Denver Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted December 13, 2019 Share Posted December 13, 2019 8 minutes ago, GoBills808 said: Already beat Dallas so no worries there right now (on points): Titans #9 Broncos #10 Cowboys #12 (higher when we played 'em) I think both the Broncos and Titans were higher when we played 'em? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoBills808 Posted December 13, 2019 Share Posted December 13, 2019 2 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: And Denver And the Jets Oh wait and the Titans too Just now, Hapless Bills Fan said: right now (on points): Titans #9 Broncos #10 Cowboys #12 (higher when we played 'em) I think both the Broncos and Titans were higher when we played 'em I don't use points a lot tbh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted December 13, 2019 Share Posted December 13, 2019 1 minute ago, GoBills808 said: And the Jets Oh wait and the Titans too I don't use points a lot tbh First thing I look at. Points win games. But if a D is legit, shouldn't be much discrepency between points and yds, if there is, "Something is Happening" Jets for example. #7 D on Yards #19 on Points Hmmmmmm.... "Something is Happening" can mean D starts with poor field position a lot due to ST or turnovers Or O or ST give up points Dunno what's up with Jets, haven't looked (yet) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoBills808 Posted December 13, 2019 Share Posted December 13, 2019 1 minute ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: First thing I look at. Points win games. Yeh but point don't tell a good story imo. The Bills made the Ravens take, what, like 8 plays to score after the Allen sack fumble on our own 25? Like 3 yards/play but if you just look @points it's 7 regardless Also some total pt lines include special teams points, nothing to do w/defense Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atlbillsfan1975 Posted December 13, 2019 Share Posted December 13, 2019 29 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: That would be "No", on the grounds that they aren't on or near a lake Currently alleged to be high of 37, low of 30, partly cloudy. But, rain Fri and Sat (just rain - not mix) and Mon/Tues after a warm front comes through, so it all depends on how fast said front boogies along. You are right. I didn’t realize Pittsburgh was over 130 miles from Lake Erie, been awhile since I’ve been up that way. Lake Effect snow can only travel up to 100 miles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CincyBillsFan Posted December 13, 2019 Share Posted December 13, 2019 The thing that drives me nuts is the notion that Allen is a turnover machine. From the link on page 21 of this thread: Let's look at some QB's rated equal to or better then Allen on this list and focus on their total TD's and total TO's: Watson = 31/12 Jimmy G = 26/16 Dak Prescott = 27/12 Ryan = 23/16 Wentz = 23/13 Carr = 19/11 Allen = 25/12 Now lets throw out a couple of names who are rated lower then Allen but aren't called TO machines: Rivers = 20/17 Goff = 17/19 Mayfield = 19/18 Minshew = 15/12 Darnold = 17/12 Kyle Allen = 18/19 Now lets look at the whole list (31 players) and focus on those that have as many or more fumbles then "fumble prone Josh Allen": Rodgers = 4 Jimmy G = 5 Ryan = 4 Wentz = 6 Goff = 5 Winston = 5 Minshew = 7 Kyle Allen = 7 To be clear I left out the elite QB's who have much better numbers then Allen. But Allen isn't elite YET. But the notion that he's a TO machine is rubbish and the numbers prove it. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted December 13, 2019 Share Posted December 13, 2019 7 minutes ago, atlbillsfan1975 said: You are right. I didn’t realize Pittsburgh was over 130 miles from Lake Erie, been awhile since I’ve been up that way. Lake Effect snow can only travel up to 100 miles. It's not just distance, it's direction, prevailing wind direction, and topography. Pittsburgh SE of Cleveland with some hilly country between 'em 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stank_Nasty Posted December 13, 2019 Share Posted December 13, 2019 (edited) 27 minutes ago, CincyBillsFan said: The thing that drives me nuts is the notion that Allen is a turnover machine. From the link on page 21 of this thread: Let's look at some QB's rated equal to or better then Allen on this list and focus on their total TD's and total TO's: Watson = 31/12 Jimmy G = 26/16 Dak Prescott = 27/12 Ryan = 23/16 Wentz = 23/13 Carr = 19/11 Allen = 25/12 Now lets throw out a couple of names who are rated lower then Allen but aren't called TO machines: Rivers = 20/17 Goff = 17/19 Mayfield = 19/18 Minshew = 15/12 Darnold = 17/12 Kyle Allen = 18/19 Now lets look at the whole list (31 players) and focus on those that have as many or more fumbles then "fumble prone Josh Allen": Rodgers = 4 Jimmy G = 5 Ryan = 4 Wentz = 6 Goff = 5 Winston = 5 Minshew = 7 Kyle Allen = 7 To be clear I left out the elite QB's who have much better numbers then Allen. But Allen isn't elite YET. But the notion that he's a TO machine is rubbish and the numbers prove it. He’s only got 12 total to’s in 13 games. I just don’t understand how the narrative is still around. I’m curious of how many qb’s actually average more than his .92 per game. I bet Allen is simply middle of the pack. I think it’s partly because the proclamations of the “experts” were so bold and over the top with him that they are clinging for dear life to their old assertions.... notice that it NEVER gets mentioned that there are a mere 6 qb’s in the whole NFL with more total td’s? After all, isn’t that what the position is all about? Scoring freaking tds!!! Here’s the start of that list: Jackson Watson Wilson Winston prescott Jimmy G ..... JOSH FRIGGIN ALLEN! Edited December 13, 2019 by Stank_Nasty 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CincyBillsFan Posted December 13, 2019 Share Posted December 13, 2019 Just now, Stank_Nasty said: He’s only got 12 total to’s in 13 games. I just don’t understand how the narrative is still around. I’m curious of how many qb’s actually average more than his .92 per game. I bet it’s a fair amount. I think it’s partly because the proclamations of the “experts” were so bold and over the top with him that they are clinging for dear life to their old assertions.... notice that it NEVER gets mentioned that there are a mere 6 qb’s in the whole NFL with more total td’s? After all, isn’t that what the position is all about? Scoring freaking tds!!! Here’s the start of that list: Jackson Watson Wilson Winston prescott Jimmy G ..... JOSH FRIGGIN ALLEN! Bingo! And remember how after they had fast starts folks on 2BD were talking about how Minshew & Kyle Allen were better value then Allen because they were low draft picks? Now look at them: Minshew = 15/12 Kyle Allen = 18/19 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoBills808 Posted December 13, 2019 Share Posted December 13, 2019 That was the tickiest of the tack Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsbackto81 Posted December 13, 2019 Share Posted December 13, 2019 (edited) 6 hours ago, GoBills808 said: Already beat Dallas so no worries there 6 hours ago, YoloinOhio said: And Denver Dallas and Denver have "good" defenses. Pitt has an "excellent" D. Their front 7 is down right scary. I just re-watched the Arizona and Cleveland highlights and they got after Murray and Mayfield what seemed to be effortlessly. Our O line will not be able to handle them and Baltimore has already given them the blueprint for Josh. We will have to hope we force some turnovers from Duck. Hopefully get an early lead and force them to pass often, something the Duck is not accustomed to. One thing I did notice about Duck is he isn't afraid to chuck it. He throws the deep shot when there's single coverage and trusts his WR's to make the play. Edited December 13, 2019 by billsbackto81 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoBills808 Posted December 13, 2019 Share Posted December 13, 2019 1 minute ago, billsbackto81 said: Dallas and Denver have "good" defenses. Pitt has an "excellent" D. Their front 7 is down right scary. I just re-watched the Arizona and Cleveland highlights and they got after Murray and Mayfield what seemed to be effortlessly. Our O line will not be able to handle them and Baltimore has already given them the blueprint for Josh. We will have to hope we force some turnovers from Duck. One thing I did notice about Duck is he isn't afraid to chuck it. He throws the deep shot when there's single coverage and trusts his WR's to make the play. Those are two bad olines though, the Bills’ isn’t nearly as susceptible. Pitt doesn’t have the horses in the secondary that Baltimore does, and I don’t expect the offense to struggle nearly as much against their pass rush because they will expose their coverage unlike the Ravens. I think Allen has a nice day and the Bills win comfortably tbh. Singletary and Brown should be productive as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
78thealltimegreat Posted December 13, 2019 Share Posted December 13, 2019 Kinda like those commercials...Looking over their games they don’t score alot of points and rely on turnovers from their D...we get a couple drives and don’t give up the deep ball they seem to live by we win this game pretty easily as this isn’t exactly Lamar Jackson and crew Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsbackto81 Posted December 13, 2019 Share Posted December 13, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, 78thealltimegreat said: Kinda like those commercials...Looking over their games they don’t score alot of points and rely on turnovers from their D...we get a couple drives and don’t give up the deep ball they seem to live by we win this game pretty easily as this isn’t exactly Lamar Jackson and crew Neither does Buffalo. And what do you know, we also have a fumbling prone QB. No it's not Lamar Jackson and crew but their D is pretty legit and I can see them blowing up our O line often. Don't underestimate this team. They have everything riding on this game and they're home. Edited December 13, 2019 by billsbackto81 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thurman#1 Posted December 13, 2019 Share Posted December 13, 2019 They're a good team. They're legit. I'd pick us, but expect them to be in it with a chance to win. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nextmanup Posted December 13, 2019 Share Posted December 13, 2019 The game is going to be won by the team whose offense struggles slightly less than the other. 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted December 13, 2019 Share Posted December 13, 2019 9 hours ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: Fair Was that quoted post for me? I have that Yahoo on ignore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bronxbomber21 Posted December 13, 2019 Share Posted December 13, 2019 I think Allen learned from last week thats one thing i really like about him. He doesn't often carry a bad game with him in back to back weeks 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALF Posted December 13, 2019 Share Posted December 13, 2019 'Duck' also become the first undrafted quarterback in league history to win his first three career starts. Pittsburgh's swarming Steel Curtain 2.0 remains their catalyst and the majority reason for the Steelers' 8-5 record this year as coach Mike Tomlin astonishingly clinched his 13th straight season without a losing campaign. They'll again be put to the test against Josh Allen and the Bills' electric offense in Week 15. G YDS YPA COMP% TD-INT RAT 5 682 8.5 71.3 4-2 103.2 https://www.rotoworld.com/football/nfl/player/52560/devlin-hodges Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ethan in Cleveland Posted December 13, 2019 Share Posted December 13, 2019 The next two weeks will define this season. We will know if they are a legitimate playoff team or just the beneficiaries of an easy schedule. Defense needs to create some short fields and an early lead. Daboll needs to move the pocket and get the ball to Beasley and Knox early. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cripple Creek Posted December 13, 2019 Share Posted December 13, 2019 If only there was a thread for this. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted December 13, 2019 Share Posted December 13, 2019 2 hours ago, 78thealltimegreat said: Kinda like those commercials...Looking over their games they don’t score alot of points and rely on turnovers from their D...we get a couple drives and don’t give up the deep ball they seem to live by we win this game pretty easily as this isn’t exactly Lamar Jackson and crew so winning 10-7 is a failure to you? have to score how many points to impress you? Last time I looked the correct answer was one more point on the scoreboard than opponents, by any means necessary 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eball Posted December 13, 2019 Share Posted December 13, 2019 1 hour ago, Bronxbomber21 said: I think Allen learned from last week thats one thing i really like about him. He doesn't often carry a bad game with him in back to back weeks He was already learning by the 4th quarter. I expect a good game out of Josh this week. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Matt_In_NH Posted December 13, 2019 Share Posted December 13, 2019 (edited) They are 8-5 but started 0-3 I think. The Bills are WAY better though at 9-4! Its not even close Edited December 13, 2019 by mattynh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOUSE Posted December 13, 2019 Share Posted December 13, 2019 The Eagles & Browns were just OK too. This game will go right down to the wire. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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The Wiz Posted December 13, 2019 Share Posted December 13, 2019 3 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: Good juju for us. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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