Bleed Bills Blue Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 15 hours ago, atlbillsfan1975 said: There is enough tape on Duck for Leslie and Sean to see tendencies. Duck tape? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blank Stare Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 1 hour ago, YoloinOhio said: Not a shot at you Yolo, but shocking! Knew he would be back for this one. I bet Conner too. Steelers know they need this game. Honestly, I fully trust our defense. It’s our offense vs. their defense that will determine this game. And you can bet they’ll be sending the house at Allen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stank_Nasty Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 1 minute ago, TheProcess said: Not a shot at you Yolo, but shocking! Knew he would be back for this one. I bet Conner too. Steelers know they need this game. Honestly, I fully trust our defense. It’s our offense vs. their defense that will determine this game. And you can bet they’ll be sending the house at Allen. pitts d has 33 to's and 48 sacks.... that's big time. very tough test again for the offense. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Franco_92 Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 The dumb thing about "Allen hasn't beaten good teams" argument is that it's completely possible for Allen to have beaten 3 playoff teams this year, if he can win this Sunday, the 8-5 steelers/titans, and a cowboys team that can still win 9. whether or not he does this has nothing to do with him or us, and everything to do with those teams' last few games. So I'm not really interested in viewing it that way when the only other good team he plays this year is NE. Sure he still needs to have a statement game against a great team, but he had good games against good ones and has only faced NE as far as "great" ones go. Next year there will be plenty of them with KC, SF, SEA on the table. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whatdrought Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 I personally don't get it... this seems like such an easy game for us. Am i completely underrating the Steelers, or do people still not trust josh to do at least as much as he did this past sunday- cause Duck aint scoring 24 points on our Defense... 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
finn Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 Will be interesting to see how the Bills adjust on offense now that two teams--the Pats and Ravens--have shown the league that the way to beat Josh Allen is to be in his face all game long. He can be effective given time (most QBs are), but he doesn't make good decisions when rushed. In both games he or Daboll went for long balls in the face of the blitz instead of his short hot read (if he had one). The Steelers will be bringing the heat. Will Daboll adjust or not? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CommonCents Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 1 minute ago, whatdrought said: I personally don't get it... this seems like such an easy game for us. Am i completely underrating the Steelers, or do people still not trust josh to do at least as much as he did this past sunday- cause Duck aint scoring 24 points on our Defense... An easy game? Allen Josh got slammed around for the better part of 3 quarters. The Steelers are even better at getting the QB. I can assure you, no one at OBD is expecting any easy one this week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yobogoya! Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 3 minutes ago, whatdrought said: I personally don't get it... this seems like such an easy game for us. Am i completely underrating the Steelers, or do people still not trust josh to do at least as much as he did this past sunday- cause Duck aint scoring 24 points on our Defense... It's not about trusting our D to shut down Duck, it's about their defense getting big time sacks / fumbles / picks against Josh in dangerous territory -- that's what has me unsettled anyway. If we get behind early against that D, I don't know if Josh can overcome it. Just like this past Sunday. We have to score first and get ahead of them, but it won't be easy... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whatdrought Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 (edited) 16 minutes ago, Yobogoya! said: It's not about trusting our D to shut down Duck, it's about their defense getting big time sacks / fumbles / picks against Josh in dangerous territory -- that's what has me unsettled anyway. If we get behind early against that D, I don't know if Josh can overcome it. Just like this past Sunday. We have to score first and get ahead of them, but it won't be easy... Right, but I guess my thought is that even if josh has the exact same game this week that he did yesterday (seems very unlikely) and the offense can only score 17 points, I would still be surprised to see their offense do anything close to enough to overcome that. Also, the whole “who have you beaten” game is way over done, but it is fair to question what offenses the steeelrs have been shutting down. They gave the rams fits, but the rams offense was hot trash at that point. Edited December 9, 2019 by whatdrought 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 I'm so concerned, I think I'll go hang out in a bunker in Montana. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big C Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 10 minutes ago, whatdrought said: Right, but I guess my thought is that even if josh has the exact same game this week that he did yesterday (seems very unlikely) and the offense can only score 17 points, I would still be surprised to see their offense do anything close to enough to overcome that. Also, the whole “who have you beaten” game is way over done, but it is fair to question what offenses the steeelrs have been shutting down. They gave the rams fits, but the rams offense was hot trash at that point. I do feel we can shut their offense down. But I'm not sure we can pull away from them if our offense plays like it did yesterday. Probably a close, low-scoring game but I'm hopeful Josh learns from yesterday and gets back on track. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GimmeSomeProcess Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 I feel much more confident going into this week than playing Baltimore. I was worried about the Ravens scoring points but also worries how good that D was playing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cheektowaga Chad Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 11 hours ago, mykidsdad said: Willie Parker and Mark Maddox. Bad memories. They also played a QB by the name Bryan st. Pierre in the game Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boatdrinks Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 1 hour ago, whatdrought said: I personally don't get it... this seems like such an easy game for us. Am i completely underrating the Steelers, or do people still not trust josh to do at least as much as he did this past sunday- cause Duck aint scoring 24 points on our Defense... The defense will be fine vs Duck, but make no mistake ; this game is a terrible matchup for the Bills on offense. Steelers D is right there with the Ravens in scoring D and number one in the league in takeaways. That’s Kryptonite for the Bills offense, as they can’t handle stunts or overload pressures and lack playmakers to make you pay outside of J Browns speed. The Bills D is stout, but don’t generate a ton of takeaways and don’t have many return TDs . Look for a low scoring affair where the Bills struggle to reach 20 points and come up a bit short on the road. 1 hour ago, Yobogoya! said: It's not about trusting our D to shut down Duck, it's about their defense getting big time sacks / fumbles / picks against Josh in dangerous territory -- that's what has me unsettled anyway. If we get behind early against that D, I don't know if Josh can overcome it. Just like this past Sunday. We have to score first and get ahead of them, but it won't be easy... Josh can’t overcome it on his own. His OL and offensive skill players matter too. They’re not very effective vs pressure defenses. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Berky1010 Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 Steelers -1.5 per Vegas is all you need to know Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoHuddleKelly12 Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 1 hour ago, Joe in Winslow said: I'm so concerned, I think I'll go hang out in a bunker in Montana. Outfitted with or without a transistor radio? Make that WiFi enabled so you can catch Schopp’s postgame gems? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 4 minutes ago, NoHuddleKelly12 said: Outfitted with or without a transistor radio? Make that WiFi enabled so you can catch Schopp’s postgame gems? Oh no. Can't have that, because then the NSA can track me. THAT is how concerned I am. My concern >>>>>>>>>>>> anybody else's concern. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColoradoBills Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 Just now, Joe in Winslow said: Oh no. Can't have that, because then the NSA can track me. THAT is how concerned I am. My concern >>>>>>>>>>>> anybody else's concern. I'm "sheltering in place" and have laid in my supplies. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillnutinHouston Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 Surprised that so far nobody's mentioned that Pouncey will be back from his suspension this week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MDH Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 2 hours ago, whatdrought said: I personally don't get it... this seems like such an easy game for us. Am i completely underrating the Steelers, or do people still not trust josh to do at least as much as he did this past sunday- cause Duck aint scoring 24 points on our Defense... Duck doesn't have to drive the field to score 24. The Pit D causes havoc and their ST is fantastic as well. Even a Duck led offense can put the ball in the endzone if their D or ST gives him a couple of short fields. If the Bills don't turn the ball over, they win. Let's see if they can manage that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boatdrinks Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 8 minutes ago, BillnutinHouston said: Surprised that so far nobody's mentioned that Pouncey will be back from his suspension this week. It’s a factor, but I don’t think the Bills D Vs the PIT offense is a matchup that has a lot of Bills fans concerned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 2 minutes ago, Boatdrinks said: It’s a factor, but I don’t think the Bills D Vs the PIT offense is a matchup that has a lot of Bills fans concerned. How dare you assume anyone's concern? Concern-ist! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted December 9, 2019 Author Share Posted December 9, 2019 33 minutes ago, BillnutinHouston said: Surprised that so far nobody's mentioned that Pouncey will be back from his suspension this week. He already came back Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShakAttack Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 2 hours ago, whatdrought said: I personally don't get it... this seems like such an easy game for us. Am i completely underrating the Steelers, or do people still not trust josh to do at least as much as he did this past sunday- cause Duck aint scoring 24 points on our Defense... Yes people still do not trust Josh.... against a top tier defense. And until he puts in a good game against one of those defenses, that is going to be the feeling. Denver was the best defense that he looked good against, and that was fairly recent which is encouraging, but I think the Steelers defense is on a higher level and have much more to play for Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 (edited) Bills 20 Steelers 9 the game was never in doubt. Bills are the better team here. 3 hours ago, whatdrought said: I personally don't get it... this seems like such an easy game for us. Am i completely underrating the Steelers, or do people still not trust josh to do at least as much as he did this past sunday- cause Duck aint scoring 24 points on our Defense... no I am with you. Bills are a better football team and this game should be a Bills win by two scores. their Defense isn’t that great when they are not getting their opportunistic turnovers. And their Offense really is trash. Edited December 9, 2019 by MAJBobby Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 12 minutes ago, MAJBobby said: Bills 20 Steelers 9 the game was never in doubt. Bills are the better team here. no I am with you. Bills are a better football team and this game should be a Bills win by two scores. their Defense isn’t that great when they are not getting their opportunistic turnovers. And their Offense really is trash. I was gonna say 24-10. but 20-9 works for me, too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 Just now, Joe in Winslow said: I was gonna say 24-10. but 20-9 works for me, too. yeah either way I don’t think this game is ever in doubt. Bills cruise to a 2 score win 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RiotAct Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 1 hour ago, ColoradoBills said: I'm "sheltering in place" and have laid in my supplies. what about some MREs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CincyBillsFan Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 17 hours ago, Penfield45 said: Dabboll hasn't learnt anything all year lol you saw first hand today how clueless he is. ravens send blitz from the first drive to the last and he didn't make a single adjustment to it. no screens, max protect, TE seam routes, quick slants. Dabboll is so out of his depth at OC its embarrassing. Or maybe he just doesn't have the personnel yet on Offense that can handle a team loaded with defensive talent. IMO the Ravens since getting that CB a month ago are the best defense in football. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bills and clippers fan Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 I just want a win THIS week. Dont want to wait till last game of season to determine our playoff hopes. 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CincyBillsFan Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 To me this is the kind of game where the Bills should be very conservative on offense. As others have pointed out the Steeler's are winning games with defensive & ST scoring. We have to limit the TO's, especially early in the game. If we want to attack them the 2nd half might be the better time if we're up like 10 - 6. There is NO way the Steeler's O should move the ball much against our D. If the Bills O can score 17 - 20 points we win this game and are in the playoffs. And for the record, I don't think the Steeler's defense is as good as the Raven D is. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atlbillsfan1975 Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 25 minutes ago, MAJBobby said: yeah either way I don’t think this game is ever in doubt. Bills cruise to a 2 score win God I hope so. It’s my wedding anniversary and we will be on vacation in Newport Beach California. Cherry on top to the day would be an easy Bills win. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColoradoBills Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 27 minutes ago, RiotAct said: what about some MREs MREs, that's 5-star restaurant fare. This is what we ate. Showing my age now! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victory Formation Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 I’m concerned that this will be another jailbreak every time Allen hikes the ball. They got Watt, Dupree and Hayward, arguably a better pass rush than the Ravens. If we protect Allen, we win. If these guys explode into our backfield we will be humiliated. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 17 minutes ago, ColoradoBills said: MREs, that's 5-star restaurant fare. This is what we ate. Showing my age now! Hot dogs, meatballs and beef stew yes. Chicken ala King...not so much. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MasterStrategist Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 35 minutes ago, CincyBillsFan said: To me this is the kind of game where the Bills should be very conservative on offense. As others have pointed out the Steeler's are winning games with defensive & ST scoring. We have to limit the TO's, especially early in the game. If we want to attack them the 2nd half might be the better time if we're up like 10 - 6. There is NO way the Steeler's O should move the ball much against our D. If the Bills O can score 17 - 20 points we win this game and are in the playoffs. And for the record, I don't think the Steeler's defense is as good as the Raven D is. I haven't had the chance to read all comments in this thread, so not singling you out just wanted to say... Living in Pittsburgh, I've seen every steeler game and connected with some media folks too: 1. dont sleep on steeler defense. they dont have the corners, although Haden is very good, thatbthe ravens or Patriots have, but their front seven and pass rush is the best we will be facing up till now, imo 2. attacking their defense: historically, teams that run spread have had success vs running 12 or 21 personnel. this year is a bit different, as their combo of watt and Dupree is difficult to block. Josh is going to need to throw "on time" and be willing to take some quick check downs. their defense is very aggressive, misdirection and screens can work against them 3. on offense, duck brings a very different dynamic than rudolph. duck is a rhythm passer, not a cannon, but solid arm. he can scramble, if needed, but more like a ryan fitz. Teams have stacked the box to counter their strong oline and tendency this season to pass short to their rbs. As they do that, corners typically jam the wrs in man coverage. which is where both duck and rudolph have had success with fade/go routes. This is where I'd mix up the press vs off man/zone 4. with juju hurt, I think their most dangerous weapon is diontae Johnson, however hes a rookie and still coming into his own. james Washington has solid speed, and great catch radius/strength, hes their primary deep threat right now Bottom line, get them into 3rd and 5+, and minimize the big plays on deep catches or pass interference. On offense, josh needs to play a game like he did against the titans and hopefully connect on a deep pass 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blank Stare Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 23 minutes ago, Sunshower said: I’m concerned that this will be another jailbreak every time Allen hikes the ball. They got Watt, Dupree and Hayward, arguably a better pass rush than the Ravens. If we protect Allen, we win. If these guys explode into our backfield we will be humiliated. Agreed. They HAVE to know this. The key to the game is our offense vs. their defense. I’m fully confident in our defense against Hodges. If our offense is not up to the challenge, it will be a long night. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CincyBillsFan Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 4 minutes ago, MasterStrategist said: I haven't had the chance to read all comments in this thread, so not singling you out just wanted to say... Living in Pittsburgh, I've seen every steeler game and connected with some media folks too: 1. dont sleep on steeler defense. they dont have the corners, although Haden is very good, thatbthe ravens or Patriots have, but their front seven and pass rush is the best we will be facing up till now, imo 2. attacking their defense: historically, teams that run spread have had success vs running 12 or 21 personnel. this year is a bit different, as their combo of watt and Dupree is difficult to block. Josh is going to need to throw "on time" and be willing to take some quick check downs. their defense is very aggressive, misdirection and screens can work against them 3. on offense, duck brings a very different dynamic than rudolph. duck is a rhythm passer, not a cannon, but solid arm. he can scramble, if needed, but more like a ryan fitz. Teams have stacked the box to counter their strong oline and tendency this season to pass short to their rbs. As they do that, corners typically jam the wrs in man coverage. which is where both duck and rudolph have had success with fade/go routes. This is where I'd mix up the press vs off man/zone 4. with juju hurt, I think their most dangerous weapon is diontae Johnson, however hes a rookie and still coming into his own. james Washington has solid speed, and great catch radius/strength, hes their primary deep threat right now Bottom line, get them into 3rd and 5+, and minimize the big plays on deep catches or pass interference. On offense, josh needs to play a game like he did against the titans and hopefully connect on a deep pass I agree that the Steeler's have a very good defense that is dangerously opportunistic. I was just saying that as good as the Steelers are on D they aren't as good as Baltimore's defense. Having seen the Ravens play the last couple of weeks I think they have the best defense in the NFL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RiotAct Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 26 minutes ago, Joe in Winslow said: Hot dogs, meatballs and beef stew yes. Chicken ala King...not so much. mmmmmm, spiced sauce. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 I guess I'll put this here McDermott Presser https://twitter.com/BuffaloBills/status/1204144071805227009 Injury report was just Ty Nseckhe. No one asked him about Josh's ankle No one asked him about the report that he needed to be restrained in the tunnel or why he got so heated near the end of the 2nd half Didn't say much about the offensive performance except that it's usually not one guy and it takes all 11 to make play. Pretty vanilla. One game at a time, got to fix stuff, starts with me. https://twitter.com/BuffaloBills/status/1204144071805227009 Daboll Presser https://twitter.com/BuffaloBills/status/1204147506491351040 Talked about Knox being a tough-minded resiliant guy and telling Boras get him ready because we're going right back to him. Again very vanilla, starts with me, thought Josh settled in as the game went on. Said Josh has a lot of responsibility for protections, can't call alert on every play but he did a lot of it. Again no one asked him about Josh's ankle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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