Big Turk Posted November 11, 2019 Share Posted November 11, 2019 (edited) They leave themselves too small a margin of error on a week to week basis. What i mean is that the team isn't able to give themselves enough breathing room to overcome many screw-ups...whether its turnovers, lack of offensive production, lack of defensive turnovers, bad special teams play, etc... They always seem to find themselves in close games even against lesser opponents. Today they lost because they missed 2 FGs and because the kicker doesn't have enough of a leg anymore, realistically a 3rd because he forced McDermott to go for it on a 4th and 4 instead of trying a 50+ yard FG that 90% of the league would try. They can't have a kicker who isn't ultra reliable. It just isn't going to work...they don't score enough points to overcome 2 or 3 FG misses in a game... Ultimately the team just doesn't do enough to give themselves enough breathing room and that will likely be their downfall...either by missing the playoffs or they will lose in the playoffs due to it likely in the first round... Edited November 11, 2019 by matter2003 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsbackto81 Posted November 11, 2019 Share Posted November 11, 2019 Generating more turnovers would remedy that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chill Posted November 11, 2019 Share Posted November 11, 2019 Play Jauron ball and most games will be tight. We have to get the bounces and calls to succeed, which we usually do not. Margin of error is too tight to be consistently successful. We need a coaching change. 5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John in Jax Posted November 11, 2019 Share Posted November 11, 2019 Well, to boil it down....their defense isnt as good as everybody thought they were, and the young QB is still a work in progress, and he may turn out to be a dud. And, oh, today, clock management by the coaches was horrible at the end of the game. WHY on earth was a TO called coming off of the 2-minute warning break? 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BITE ME Posted November 11, 2019 Share Posted November 11, 2019 The Bills are not very talented. That is their problem in a nutshell. 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wvbillsfan Posted November 11, 2019 Share Posted November 11, 2019 Well part of that is the offenses inability to score points. Whatever you believe that reason to be, its hard to give yourself a margin of error without points on the board. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Real McClappy Posted November 11, 2019 Share Posted November 11, 2019 Haush $$$ Is the exact player you describe we thought we had. It's sucks that it's happening right now but it is. I hope he turns it around. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seven-N-Nine Posted November 11, 2019 Share Posted November 11, 2019 (edited) This is McDermott's coaching style, it's why he rarely has any blowout wins and has too many blowout losses all the while only beating bad teams. He's a play not to lose coach. Play to not lose teams never win anything meaningful. Edited November 11, 2019 by Seven-N-Nine 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zevo Posted November 11, 2019 Share Posted November 11, 2019 1 minute ago, FUTURIST said: The Bills are not very talented. That is their problem in a nutshell. This is probably one of the dumber statements I’ve read here today. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twist_to_open Posted November 11, 2019 Share Posted November 11, 2019 How about we're Buffalo and we just plain suck! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjt328 Posted November 11, 2019 Share Posted November 11, 2019 This ultimately comes back to lack of offense. A defense cannot allow negative points. The best they can do is zero, and I consider anything under 20 a pretty good performance. But if the offense is always struggling to score more than 20, then games are ALWAYS going to be close. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BITE ME Posted November 11, 2019 Share Posted November 11, 2019 1 minute ago, zevo said: This is probably one of the dumber statements I’ve read here today. What is so dumb? They don't have the talent to compete with good teams. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JXCOL3 Posted November 11, 2019 Share Posted November 11, 2019 Imagine if we could have Chan Gailey's offense paired with this defense, we would have something then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cheektowaga Chad Posted November 11, 2019 Share Posted November 11, 2019 Hitting a deep ball today would have won this game, had at least 2 that were wide open 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted November 11, 2019 Author Share Posted November 11, 2019 (edited) 9 minutes ago, wvbillsfan said: Well part of that is the offenses inability to score points. Whatever you believe that reason to be, its hard to give yourself a margin of error without points on the board. I believe the lack of deep ball success plays a large role...its a lot harder to score when you have to drive 10 or 12 plays than it is when you can pick up 50 or 60 yards on a single play and turn those into 5 play drives. If i had to bet i would say the Bills are top 5 highest in percentage of drives entering opponents territory that result in no points. They move the ball well until the opponent 40 or 45 yard line many times and then stall out...or get penalties...or self destruct some other way... They also seem very successful at getting themselves into "No mans land" where its 4th and under 6 and too close to punt but too far for a FG. Surprisingly McDermott has been very aggressive at going for it there but i think this points to a bigger picture of losing confidence in Hauschka's ability to even reach that distance on 50+ yard FGs now let alone make them.... Edited November 11, 2019 by matter2003 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dayman Posted November 11, 2019 Share Posted November 11, 2019 Bills problem in a nutshell: QB is not good enough to consistently apply pressure on the opposing team throughout the game and often hurts us. /topic /season 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warren Zevon Posted November 11, 2019 Share Posted November 11, 2019 What would Dunkirk Don say? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsherd Posted November 11, 2019 Share Posted November 11, 2019 Bills need offense. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheJauronClap Posted November 11, 2019 Share Posted November 11, 2019 12 minutes ago, billsbackto81 said: Generating more turnovers would remedy that. I feel like scoring more points is better just saying Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wvbillsfan Posted November 11, 2019 Share Posted November 11, 2019 1 minute ago, matter2003 said: I believe the lack of deep ball success plays a large role...its a lot harder to score when you have to drive 10 or 12 plays than it is when you can pick up 50 or 60 yards on a single play and turn those into 5 play drives. If i had to bet i would say the Bills are top 5 highest in percentage of drives entering opponents territory that result in no points. They move the ball well until the opponent 40 or 45 yard line many times and then stall out...or get penalties...or self destruct some other way... They also seem very successful at getting themselves into "No mans land" where its 4th and under 6 and too close to punt but too far for a FG. Surprisingly McDermott has been very aggressive at going for it there but i think this points to a bigger picture of losing confidence in Hauschka's ability to even reach that distance on 50+ yard FGs now let alone make them.... The aggressiveness by McDermott on 4th down is a breathe of fresh air and why he can’t be consider Dick Jauron but it’s just not being repayed by the offense. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bangarang Posted November 11, 2019 Share Posted November 11, 2019 12 minutes ago, FUTURIST said: The Bills are not very talented. That is their problem in a nutshell. Didn’t you predict us to go 14-2 last week? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Best Player Available Posted November 11, 2019 Share Posted November 11, 2019 1 minute ago, Gary Busey said: What would Dunkirk Don say? Keep buying land East of Buffalo. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
34-78-83 Posted November 11, 2019 Share Posted November 11, 2019 1 - Our QB is developing quite nicely. The film is out there it's really not debatable. HOWEVER, the kid needs to re-learn how to deliver a deep ball QUICK. 2- Beyond that , the team is moving nicely down the field to get a chance to win the game and the coach literally castrates both his QB and his offense by playing for a 50 plus yard FG. That lost any chance at the win right there. Its as simple as that. Nothing else really matters. Kickers are gonna miss. We probably need a new one but that wasn't the big picture cause today. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsbackto81 Posted November 11, 2019 Share Posted November 11, 2019 Just now, TheJauronClap said: I feel like scoring more points is better just saying Shorter fields create more scoring opportunities. Not easy scoring on drives of 75 or more yards every drive. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheJauronClap Posted November 11, 2019 Share Posted November 11, 2019 Well i mean true when your qb can't hit open receivers down the field 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MDH Posted November 11, 2019 Share Posted November 11, 2019 There were lots of problems today but I agree in general. If you are going to play a grind it out, low scoring type of game a fantastic kicker is a must. Haush isn’t great, he’s good enough. His miss just before halftime of the NE game cost the team too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BITE ME Posted November 11, 2019 Share Posted November 11, 2019 4 minutes ago, Bangarang said: Didn’t you predict us to go 14-2 last week? Yes. I have given up. I am no longer delusional enough to believe the Bills can beat a good team. They just are not very good. I have to agree with Terry Bradshaw. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnnycage46 Posted November 11, 2019 Share Posted November 11, 2019 The Chiefs lost at Tennessee today. Just sayin. The Colts lost at home to the Dolphins today. Just Sayin. The Falcons won at the Saints today. Just sayin. Stuff happens. Just sayin. 1 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheJauronClap Posted November 11, 2019 Share Posted November 11, 2019 2 minutes ago, billsbackto81 said: Shorter fields create more scoring opportunities. Not easy scoring on drives of 75 or more yards every drive. I cant put anything else on the d they played great qb and offense screwed the pooch again Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seven-N-Nine Posted November 11, 2019 Share Posted November 11, 2019 9 minutes ago, dayman said: Bills problem in a nutshell: QB is not good enough to consistently apply pressure on the opposing team throughout the game and often hurts us. /topic /season The biggest uncomfortable truth in Buffalo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCal Deek Posted November 11, 2019 Share Posted November 11, 2019 I remember someone posted McDs record when the opponent scored 20 against us. I’m guessing you get the same HORRIBLE record if you lower it to 19 points after today. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted November 11, 2019 Author Share Posted November 11, 2019 (edited) 9 minutes ago, 34-78-83 said: 1 - Our QB is developing quite nicely. The film is out there it's really not debatable. HOWEVER, the kid needs to re-learn how to deliver a deep ball QUICK. 2- Beyond that , the team is moving nicely down the field to get a chance to win the game and the coach literally castrates both his QB and his offense by playing for a 50 plus yard FG. That lost any chance at the win right there. Its as simple as that. Nothing else really matters. Kickers are gonna miss. We probably need a new one but that wasn't the big picture cause today. Im not sure why he played for a 50+ yard FG when he had no confidence in him earlier in the game to hit almost the same length FG that would have given them a 10-9 lead at the time... These are pretty common FGs these days and are routinely made...Hauschka used to have the longest streak of made 50+ yard FGs in the NFL so its not like this is some mystery... McDermott knows Hauschka doesn't have the leg for them right now based on him going for it earlier in the game for really no valid reason so this makes his explanation even more puzzling... Edited November 11, 2019 by matter2003 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCal Deek Posted November 11, 2019 Share Posted November 11, 2019 Just now, matter2003 said: Im not sure why he played for a 50+ yard FG when he had no confidence in him earlier in the game to hit almost the same length FG that would have given them a 10-9 lead at the time... McDermott knows Hauschka doesn't have the leg for them right now based on him going for it earlier in the game for really no valid reason so this makes his explanation even more puzzling... That wasn’t the critical mistake. I don’t believe the coach was playing for a 53 yard field goal...but Daboll botched the play calling so badly on that series that is was all that was left to them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teddy KGB Posted November 11, 2019 Share Posted November 11, 2019 22 minutes ago, zevo said: This is probably one of the dumber statements I’ve read here today. The we could have had Mason Rudolph statements have to be a tad dumber Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QB Bills Posted November 11, 2019 Share Posted November 11, 2019 The QB sucks. The coach sucks. Until the Bills fix at least one of those two things, everything else is a waste of time and energy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted November 11, 2019 Share Posted November 11, 2019 26 minutes ago, zevo said: This is probably one of the dumber statements I’ve read here today. honestly, we have some good pieces but in the trifecta of pass thrower, pass catcher and pass rusher we are currently behind in all three. in another soft metric- we are lacking guys that are overwhelming to game plan for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gray Beard Posted November 11, 2019 Share Posted November 11, 2019 They have had almost no success with deep passes this season. It’s third and four on the wrong side of the field. They gamble it all on a deep pass. They kill the drive and end up punting. To me, that summarizes all the failures on offense this year in one play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lurker Posted November 11, 2019 Share Posted November 11, 2019 1 minute ago, NoSaint said: honestly, we have some good pieces but in the trifecta of pass thrower, pass catcher and pass rusher we are currently behind in all three. in another soft metric- we are lacking guys that are overwhelming to game plan for. Or anybody on defense that can lay the lumber. They're all drag down defenders... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keepthefaith Posted November 11, 2019 Share Posted November 11, 2019 5 minutes ago, NoSaint said: honestly, we have some good pieces but in the trifecta of pass thrower, pass catcher and pass rusher we are currently behind in all three. in another soft metric- we are lacking guys that are overwhelming to game plan for. Dabol is calling a pass happy game nearly every week without players that can execute it at a high level consistently. With a young QB and 3 capable running backs, the ball should be handed off more often. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffbills123 Posted November 11, 2019 Share Posted November 11, 2019 Bills problem in a nutshell (for years): They don’t have a competent NFL quarterback. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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