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Do you think the Bills are doomed to repeat 2008, 2011?

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36 minutes ago, njbuff said:

I would like to think that the Bills have much stronger coaching this time around to prevent it from happening.

 

Plus, I think they can iron a lot of these kinks out from within.

 

What do you think?

Team started 5-2 as well with McDermott in 2017 before landing at 5-5 then recovering.  

 

You only have to look back to two years if you hope history repeats itself 

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Where's Royale at?  I figured he'd be running into this thread like

 

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33 minutes ago, Nextmanup said:

Coaching is not "much stronger" than Chan Gailey in 2011; it is better than Dick Jauron in 2008.

 

A monkey with a learning disability would provide better coaching than Dick Jauron.

 

Do not think we are doomed to repeat however.

Yeah sure the guy who was the National Scholar Athlete of the year from Yale in 1972 is dumber than a monkey. 

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Did we go 17-2 those years? If not then no.

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I think this team can win 10 games this season. The last stretch of the season looks tough. My hope is that McDermott knows this and has them well pre pared for the tougher games. They HAVE to be better in offense if they want any chance at playoffs 

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30 minutes ago, Cotton Fitzsimmons said:

 

THE CHANIMAL could draw up a screen like nobody's business! FACT!

 

I have said this many times and even heard a guy on WGR post game say it.  We own those films.  Dust 'em off and copy a few of those screens.  Hit Singletary instead of Fred.

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I don't believe so.  Not with this schedule at least.  It's not that I think we are contenders or anything... It's that I think we will get better over time and not worse and that this schedule seems pretty weak compared to those years.

 

Can we get Chan back to run this offense?  I actually liked Chan.  I know that's probably not a popular opinion.

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1 minute ago, reddogblitz said:

 

I have said this many times and even heard a guy on WGR post game say it.  We own those films.  Dust 'em off and copy a few of those screens.  Hit Singletary instead of Fred.

I genuinely believe Chan Gailey had a natural knack for drawing up clever plays.

 

It was a strength of his.

 

 

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I doubt we have a collapse of that magnitude, if for no other reason than our schedule. We only have 3 quality opponents left to face. Even if we lose to all 3, we only have to go 4-2 against the scrubs to finish with a winning record.

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57 minutes ago, Cotton Fitzsimmons said:

As always, anything is possible, but 2017 would seem to be a better marker than the Jauron/Gailey era teams. McDermott's already had a team here that went from 5-2 to 5-5 while getting gashed in the run game at a historic clip. After that Saints game where they ended the game with like 50 consecutive run plays, who could've seen that team winning another game the rest of the year? They managed to turn it around, win @KC and then break the drought. Had we came away with a win against the Eagles, YE OLE would've said we might have a run at the division here, gents. But, at this point, the most likely scenario is a 10/11 win season and a wildcard game at Indy/Baltimore. How McDermott's team fairs in that game will likely be the true test as to what the trajectory of THE PROCESS is. 

 

please stop.   11-5 would be amazing progress.   complete reversal of last year.  the result of one game never defines a season.  I don't give a crap about winning 1st round road wild card games.   To win the SB you almost always need to win your division and get home field.   That ain't gonna happen in the AFC East unless they build a super solid program here that is based on solid decision on top of solid long term decision.   Could take a couple more years, given how broken the program was McBeanes inherited. 

 

McD said it best today as to why no trades at the deadline.   Because they are being RESPONSIBLE and sticking to their roster building principles; I'm going with that as they are in general killing it in the personnel area.  Trust the Process.   This may take a while. 

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13 minutes ago, Rob's House said:

I doubt we have a collapse of that magnitude, if for no other reason than our schedule. We only have 3 quality opponents left to face. Even if we lose to all 3, we only have to go 4-2 against the scrubs to finish with a winning record.

Agreed, but although 9-7 may be above .500 it may not land us a Wild Card spot.  I'm hoping for 10+ wins!

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58 minutes ago, ngbills said:

2008 - Similarity is they were beating bad teams. They played better teams that year as NYJ, MIA and NE were all solid. 

2011 - They just fell apart. Balanced schedule and were beating decent teams until the wheels fell of.

 

This year we are beating bad teams and mostly play bad teams. We would have to be really bad. 

 

I agree with the above.  We have a weak schedule and enough talent and coaching that we should be able to get to 10 wins and a wild card spot (and not implode like in those seasons).  We still get to play Washington this weekend (in Buffalo), the Jests again (in Buffalo), Miami again, a lesser than usual Pittsburgh team with no Big Ben,  Denver and Cleveland (who has played a tough schedule and is probably better than their record, but isn't great).  Tougher games against Dallas, Baltimore, New England again are also on the schedule.  I think we should easily win 4 out of these remaining games, should squeeze out 5, and perhaps (but not likely) 6, if the defensive lapse against Philly was an anomaly and not a trend.  That puts us between 9-7 and 11-5.

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44 minutes ago, D. L. Hot-Flamethrower said:

Yeah sure the guy who was the National Scholar Athlete of the year from Yale in 1972 is dumber than a monkey. 

Dick, is that you?

 

:lol:

 

Please point out in my writing where I said Dick Jauron is dumber than a monkey.

 

 

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They will be awesome rest of year. Stay positive.  It will help. 

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1 hour ago, njbuff said:

I would like to think that the Bills have much stronger coaching this time around to prevent it from happening.

 

Plus, I think they can iron a lot of these kinks out from within.

 

What do you think?

I agree with you.  You can see the progress and continued potential on this team; a whole different culture.

 

That said, I'm concerned about the slippage on the defense.  For the Bills to make the playoffs this year, which quite frankly is my expectation (nothing more), the defense has to step it back up.

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I'm slightly concerned about Hyde and Shaq saying, essentially, "Relax, we're 5-2."

 

I remember similar sentiments in those years. Getting too comfortable, no killer instinct.

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1 minute ago, Nextmanup said:

Dick, is that you?

 

:lol:

 

Please point out in my writing where I said Dick Jauron is dumber than a monkey.

 

 

 

I have no doubt that Dick Jauron is a very smart man.  That doesn't make him a good motivator and doesn't mean that he's a good football coach.

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I feel that this is not the case.  When the tale is told of the eventual Lombardi winner, narrators with deep, NFL-story-telling voices will come in dramatically at this point of the documentary, and say things like "with the loss to the Eagles, uncertainty ruled the day, and the Bills season hung in the balance," and "no one could possibly know the glory that was to come."

 

True story.

 

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No!

 

The 2008 season was marred by that concussion on Trent Edwards. The Bills also lost pass rusher Aaron Schobel after 5 games and that was the end of that! The Miami Dolphins took the division that year with an 11-5 record.  That's also the year the Patriots lost Brady after one game. 

 

2011 Fitz got Fked up by the Redskins in week 8 and broke some ribs and he played hurting most of that season. The next week the Bills lost Eric Wood for the season and had great difficulty snapping the ball after that. Week 11 against Miami was a joke because they couldn't snap the ball correctly to save their lives. Besides that Bills defense was horrid under George Edwards that year.

 

This season the Bills have to have the weakest schedule I've ever seen them have 1-7 Redskins, 2-5 Browns, 0-7 Dolphins, 2-6 Broncos... 4-3 Cowboys, 5-2 Ravens...3-4 Steelers,

8-0 Patriots, 1-6 Jets. 

 

 

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Maybe TBD should be like a busy doctor's office.   "No Longer Accepting New Patients."

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