Sammy Watkins' Rib Posted October 15, 2019 Share Posted October 15, 2019 Not sure about beating them straight up but I did just take the Jets +10 so I am in the same boat as far as this being a competitive game. They are a completely different and better team with Darnold. And is Mosely not even back yet? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocket94 Posted October 15, 2019 Share Posted October 15, 2019 13 minutes ago, Real McCoy said: IKR? I will do it though even though it will hurt Just make us proud! ha! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted October 15, 2019 Share Posted October 15, 2019 8 hours ago, Estelle Getty said: Fairly easily at that. Darnold is the real deal and there is a good amount of talent on that roster. They are about to go on a fairly big run and it will start with the “upset” over brady as father time tightens it’s grip on the least physically gifted qb in the league. Mark my words. The *pats have been winning in spite of brady but playtimes over. "In spite of Brady"....who has is 10/3 TD to INT, 1,743 yards passing, 97.5 rating and an offense averaging 31.7 points per game. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatsFanNH Posted October 15, 2019 Share Posted October 15, 2019 54 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: Ah.....OK You way that based on what evidence? Last 4 times the Jets played in Foxboro the score was 41-3, 26-6, 38-3, and 30-14 in favor of the Patriots*** I don't know what you call "ALWAYS" or "close", but I call that flying them Airplanes into the Ground. I said always close AT HOME.. which is the Meadowlands in NJ.. your right at the razor they get crushed.. but in NJ it’s usually close. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badassgixxer05 Posted October 15, 2019 Share Posted October 15, 2019 8 hours ago, Doc Brown said: I still don't get how this happens. A grown ass man running and is only as tall as another's ass.... ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted October 15, 2019 Share Posted October 15, 2019 12 minutes ago, PatsFanNH said: I said always close AT HOME.. which is the Meadowlands in NJ.. your right at the razor they get crushed.. but in NJ it’s usually close. Oh sorry....when you said "at home" I interpreted that from your POV as a Pats*** fan, Home = Razor. Yes, much closer at home...since 2016, 22-17, 24-17, 27-13. I wonder why? But I think "that was then, this is now". The Pats have a far more legit D this year. I'd bet on the Hoodie to "Daze and Confuse" Darnold. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UConn James Posted October 15, 2019 Share Posted October 15, 2019 (edited) Well... if Henry Anderson cheap-shots Brady’s knees 5 seconds after the throw while staggering around like a drunk guy, as he tried to do with Josh.... Video link: https://mobile.twitter.com/salsports/status/1171256590139346944?locale=hi Edited October 15, 2019 by UConn James 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Junction Posted October 15, 2019 Share Posted October 15, 2019 1 minute ago, UConn James said: Well... if Anderson cheap-shots Brady’s knees 5 seconds after the throw while staggering around like a drunk guy, as he tried to do with Josh. 15 yards, a 1st down, and an ejection. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted October 15, 2019 Share Posted October 15, 2019 8 hours ago, billsbackto81 said: So basically you're disregarding what Josh (4th Qtr) and the Defense did to them Week 1. Nobody wants to see them get beat more than me but the Jets are not that team. Darnold couldn't do anything against our secondary and the Pats may be a little better in that respect. All of a sudden they're world beaters because they barely beat a team without their starting tackles, a sorry D and boneheaded coach at home? C'mon man! They'll be lucky to finish 5-11 with Darnold. I have to say...the Cowboys did not play as though they have a top 10 Defense on Sunday. It is possible that perception of this was skewed by their first 3 games being Giants, Redskins, and Dolphins. They gave up 441 passing yards to the Ghost of Aaron Rodgers and "Who?" at WR. Well heck - even the Ghost of Eli Manning soaked the 'Boys for 306 yds week 1. Dak Prescott and Zeke Elliot are checking all the boxes, but unless something changes the 'Boys D won't get 'er done. Getting back to the Pats*** at Jets: I think the Cowboys were a nice warm-up game for Darnold and he did look good. But don't disregard the effect that adequate time to throw has on QB performance. The Pats*** #1 D on points have given up less than half the points that the Boys have surrendered (48 vs 114). Both teams have had bad teams on their early schedule so it's apples-to-apples there. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TwistofFate Posted October 15, 2019 Share Posted October 15, 2019 The Jets are NOT the same team without Darnold. New England had it easy against them the first time, it won't be easy the second time around. Im taking a Jets "upset" in that one. The Pats are OVERRATED and barely got by the Giants with multiple starters out of the game, a rookie Qb, and defense no where near as good as the Jets. Jets 20-17 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted October 15, 2019 Share Posted October 15, 2019 33 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: I have to say...the Cowboys did not play as though they have a top 10 Defense on Sunday. It is possible that perception of this was skewed by their first 3 games being Giants, Redskins, and Dolphins. They gave up 441 passing yards to the Ghost of Aaron Rodgers and "Who?" at WR. Well heck - even the Ghost of Eli Manning soaked the 'Boys for 306 yds week 1. Dak Prescott and Zeke Elliot are checking all the boxes, but unless something changes the 'Boys D won't get 'er done. Getting back to the Pats*** at Jets: I think the Cowboys were a nice warm-up game for Darnold and he did look good. But don't disregard the effect that adequate time to throw has on QB performance. The Pats*** #1 D on points have given up less than half the points that the Boys have surrendered (48 vs 114). Both teams have had bad teams on their early schedule so it's apples-to-apples there. Correct. That defense is trash. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreboding Posted October 15, 2019 Share Posted October 15, 2019 9 hours ago, Estelle Getty said: Fairly easily at that. Darnold is the real deal and there is a good amount of talent on that roster. They are about to go on a fairly big run and it will start with the “upset” over brady as father time tightens it’s grip on the least physically gifted qb in the league. Mark my words. The *pats have been winning in spite of brady but playtimes over. I seriously doubt this. Seriously. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatsFanNH Posted October 15, 2019 Share Posted October 15, 2019 58 minutes ago, UConn James said: Well... if Henry Anderson cheap-shots Brady’s knees 5 seconds after the throw while staggering around like a drunk guy, as he tried to do with Josh.... Video link: https://mobile.twitter.com/salsports/status/1171256590139346944?locale=hi If he does that to Brady he will be suspended for the year... Brady like the few other elite/legend QBs like Brees and Rogers gets a lot more calls and protection from the league. Is it right? Probably not.. but it has sent really shocking either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest K-GunJimKelly12 Posted October 15, 2019 Share Posted October 15, 2019 (edited) I'm with the OP on this one. The Pats are not as good as they seem. I could see them finishing 12-4 or even 11-5 despite their 6-0 start. Not out of the question that the Bills could lead the division after the Eagles week. Edited October 15, 2019 by K-GunJimKelly12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punching Bag Posted October 15, 2019 Share Posted October 15, 2019 9 hours ago, Estelle Getty said: Fairly easily at that. Darnold is the real deal and there is a good amount of talent on that roster. They are about to go on a fairly big run and it will start with the “upset” over brady as father time tightens it’s grip on the least physically gifted qb in the league. Mark my words. The *pats have been winning in spite of brady but playtimes over. Remember to wear your Darnold jersey on top not underneath what ever jersey you usually wear. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted October 15, 2019 Share Posted October 15, 2019 16 minutes ago, Joe in Winslow said: Correct. That defense is trash. I wouldn't call them trash, not at all. They have some good players. But from what I've seen, they're kind of middling, maybe top-of-the-bottom-third. 5 minutes ago, PatsFanNH said: If he does that to Brady he will be suspended for the year... Brady like the few other elite/legend QBs like Brees and Rogers gets a lot more calls and protection from the league. Is it right? Probably not.. but it has sent really shocking either. I applaud your honesty on both counts. Yes, the "Star Effect" is real. It Is what It Is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleedingreennc Posted October 15, 2019 Share Posted October 15, 2019 Hmmmm 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted October 15, 2019 Share Posted October 15, 2019 4 minutes ago, K-GunJimKelly12 said: I'm with the OP on this one. The Pats are not as good as they seem. I could see them finishing 12-4 or even 11-5 despite their 6-0 start. Who are the 4 or 5 teams who will beat them, and what logic or evidence have you that the Jets will be one of them? Hopefully more than "Darnold looked good vs the Boys"? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatsFanNH Posted October 15, 2019 Share Posted October 15, 2019 Just now, Bleedingreennc said: Hmmmm Lol I hope it’s a fun game watch... I think the Jets have a good AQB in Darnold but why did they choose Gase as HC!? Ugh I am pretty sure BB snickered with that hiring lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted October 15, 2019 Share Posted October 15, 2019 1 minute ago, Bleedingreennc said: Hmmmm It would actually make me rather happy for the Jets to beat the Patriots. But I don't think it will happen and if it does, it won't be "fairly easily". 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted October 15, 2019 Share Posted October 15, 2019 19 minutes ago, PatsFanNH said: Lol I hope it’s a fun game watch... I think the Jets have a good AQB in Darnold but why did they choose Gase as HC!? Ugh I am pretty sure BB snickered with that hiring lol Following this exchange, with popcorn. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elite Poster Posted October 15, 2019 Share Posted October 15, 2019 58 minutes ago, TwistofFate said: The Jets are NOT the same team without Darnold. New England had it easy against them the first time, it won't be easy the second time around. Im taking a Jets "upset" in that one. The Pats are OVERRATED and barely got by the Giants with multiple starters out of the game, a rookie Qb, and defense no where near as good as the Jets. Jets 20-17 Look! Somebody who actually watches the games and not just the Bills game! Darnold was on fire last week and looked better than any game Josh has had so far this year, just being honest. Paired with their defense getting Mosely back, there is a chance. So many people calling for a blowout are not paying attention, bunch of box score experts. I think it's a one score game either way. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H2o Posted October 15, 2019 Share Posted October 15, 2019 (edited) Where are all of these undercover Jets fans coming from? [] As for the game, I expect the Pats defense to keep them on the winning side of things. Edited October 15, 2019 by Hapless Bills Fan inappropriate language Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted October 15, 2019 Share Posted October 15, 2019 Source: Jets guard Kelechi Osemele done for season New York Jets guard Kelechi Osemele, one of the team's key offseason acquisitions, is having season-ending shoulder surgery, a source confirmed Tuesday. Osemele, 30, whom the Jets acquired in a March trade with the Oakland Raiders, was injured in a full-pads practice during the run-up to their Week 5 game against the Philadelphia Eagles. Coach Adam Gase noted at the time that the injury was potentially serious. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KD in CA Posted October 15, 2019 Share Posted October 15, 2019 No, but the Jets are not the Dolphins/Redskins-level doormat people were assuming they were last week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H2o Posted October 15, 2019 Share Posted October 15, 2019 3 minutes ago, SlimShady'sGhost said: Source: Jets guard Kelechi Osemele done for season New York Jets guard Kelechi Osemele, one of the team's key offseason acquisitions, is having season-ending shoulder surgery, a source confirmed Tuesday. Osemele, 30, whom the Jets acquired in a March trade with the Oakland Raiders, was injured in a full-pads practice during the run-up to their Week 5 game against the Philadelphia Eagles. Coach Adam Gase noted at the time that the injury was potentially serious. He hasn't played in the last couple of games and they were saying he might not get his job back if he did get healthy. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Posted October 15, 2019 Share Posted October 15, 2019 I'd like to see the Jets beat the Pats this Monday night, but kind of doubt it will actually happen. I'll be pulling for the Jets. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeGOATski Posted October 15, 2019 Share Posted October 15, 2019 It's definitely possible and I'd love it. Maybe it would start a losing streak for the Pats and ultimately allow the Bills to win the division. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted October 15, 2019 Share Posted October 15, 2019 (edited) 10 hours ago, Estelle Getty said: Fairly easily at that. Darnold is the real deal and there is a good amount of talent on that roster. They are about to go on a fairly big run and it will start with the “upset” over brady as father time tightens it’s grip on the least physically gifted qb in the league. Mark my words. The *pats have been winning in spite of brady but playtimes over. let us know how much $$$$ you are putting behind this for the Jets to win straight up. i'm sure you could rustle up $10,000 easily against you on this board alone. Edited October 15, 2019 by row_33 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted October 15, 2019 Share Posted October 15, 2019 42 minutes ago, Elite Poster said: Look! Somebody who actually watches the games and not just the Bills game! Darnold was on fire last week and looked better than any game Josh has had so far this year, just being honest. Paired with their defense getting Mosely back, there is a chance. So many people calling for a blowout are not paying attention, bunch of box score experts. I think it's a one score game either way. Darnold stats vs Cowboys: 23-32 71.9% completion 2 TD 1 INT, 338 yds passing, 2 rushs for 1 yd Allen stats vs Titans: 23-32 71.9% completion 2 TD 1 INT, 219 yds passing, 10 rushes for 27 yds Kind of seems like you might be hanging that "looked better than any game Josh has had so far this year" on a couple of deep completions, chiefly a ~42 air yard, 92 total yard pass TD play to Robby Anderson. It was a very nice play: gutsy call, good protection, good pocket movement by Darnold, great throw. But it's one play. I'm not sure one play is so much "looked better" As a football fan (not a Jets enemy) I'm actually more impressed that the Jets D stuffed Elliot and the Cowboys on 4 plays from 1st and 10 at the 15. 34 minutes ago, KD in CA said: No, but the Jets are not the Dolphins/Redskins-level doormat people were assuming they were last week. I'm not sure who those people are? I'm sure you're correct that there are some here. When folks here have said the Bills beat 4 bad teams and included the Jets, I have consistently pointed out that the Jets are not the same team without Darnold as with him. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Realist Posted October 15, 2019 Share Posted October 15, 2019 Winning in spite of Brady? Don't think so. Yeah, he hasn't had a great season so far, but I would hardly say they are winning in spite of him. Cowboys defense is no where near as good as the Pats*. Jets will not be able to move the ball like that next week.I wouldn't be surprised to see the Jets held to 10 points or less. Saying this, I hope the Jets do win. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Estelle Getty Posted October 15, 2019 Author Share Posted October 15, 2019 3 hours ago, Royale with Cheese said: "In spite of Brady"....who has is 10/3 TD to INT, 1,743 yards passing, 97.5 rating and an offense averaging 31.7 points per game. Anybody who can’t see the sharp decline in Brady yet will see it over the next few games when they start playing decent teams. 10tds mostly on 5 yard passes that get taken 40 yards. Pay closer attention. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted October 15, 2019 Share Posted October 15, 2019 1 minute ago, Estelle Getty said: Anybody who can’t see the sharp decline in Brady yet will see it over the next few games when they start playing decent teams. 10tds mostly on 5 yard passes that get taken 40 yards. Pay closer attention. Brady is declining but it doesn't mean he still isn't good. He's not elite anymore but still good. LOL...are you sure about that stat? You're saying that most of Brady's TD's are 40 yarders? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted October 15, 2019 Share Posted October 15, 2019 54 minutes ago, Happy Gilmore said: I'd like to see the Jets beat the Pats this Monday night, but kind of doubt it will actually happen. I'll be pulling for the Jets. I'd say its safe to say 110% of us would like that to happen 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prissythecat Posted October 15, 2019 Share Posted October 15, 2019 8 minutes ago, Estelle Getty said: Anybody who can’t see the sharp decline in Brady yet will see it over the next few games when they start playing decent teams. 10tds mostly on 5 yard passes that get taken 40 yards. Pay closer attention. Brady's yards / attempt this season is 7.6 . That is actually slightly above his career average which is 7.5 yards/attempt. Sharp decline indeed. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheFunPolice Posted October 15, 2019 Share Posted October 15, 2019 Patriots defense and special teams scores a lot. Their offense does not average 31 PPG NE offense vs the 30th ranked defense at home scored 21 last game. Defense and special teams tacked on 14. The most predictable thing in the world is everyone being shocked when NE drops a few. They haven't played a decent offense yet, including ours I'm sorry to say Every week they get backup or 3rd string QBs or totally decimated offenses or both NE Giants game was 21-14 late. I wouldn't be shocked if the Jets beat them. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RiotAct Posted October 15, 2019 Share Posted October 15, 2019 12 hours ago, MJS said: The Jets will get curb stomped by the Pats. I thought they were going to get curbstomped by the Cowboys, but it didn’t happen! Hoping for a repeat this coming Sunday 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocket94 Posted October 15, 2019 Share Posted October 15, 2019 2 hours ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: It would actually make me rather happy for the Jets to beat the Patriots. But I don't think it will happen and if it does, it won't be "fairly easily". The Jets can be unpredictable...this could be one of those games where they hang tough and create some breaks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djp14150 Posted October 15, 2019 Share Posted October 15, 2019 9 hours ago, Utah John said: The Jets D is good. The Pats D is much better. The Jets O might be somewhat better than the Pats, which keeps going I guess out of force of habit. Brady's arm is not getting it done most of the time, they have no WRs or TEs, they have good RBs and a good O line. Mostly they have Brady's eyes and brain which are enough. The Jets always play the Pats tough. It's possible they could win. But at the end of the day, Gase. With a healthy Darnold this will be a close game coming down to turnovers and big plays. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest K-GunJimKelly12 Posted October 15, 2019 Share Posted October 15, 2019 2 hours ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: Who are the 4 or 5 teams who will beat them, and what logic or evidence have you that the Jets will be one of them? Hopefully more than "Darnold looked good vs the Boys"? The Jets are completely different team now. Darnold is a good QB and the Jets as a whole will play better because he is in there. It is hard to get up when you are winless and Luke Faulk is your starting QB. Going from a terrible QB to good/potentially great QB does wonders for a team psyche. Also the Jets are going to play their best game of the season on Monday night. They are at home with the Pats coming in, the Jets and their fans are going to be amped and that will be a tough game for the Pats. Then the Pats play the Browns who they should beat, but the Browns are coming off a bye and are 2-4. If they lost that game their season is over. They also are likely going to play their best game of the season. The coaching advantage is probably enough to make all the difference the Pats need but with an extra week I could see the browns actually coming up with a decent game plan. Also I think Garrett and Chubb will tough for the Pats to handle. The Patriots then go to the Ravens. The Ravens always play the Pats tough and imo, John Harbaugh is the 2nd best coach in the league. Lamar Jackson's speed can be an x-factor for any defense and the Ravens can run the ball as good as anyone. I think the Ravens win this game. Then they go to the Eagles and say what you will about the Eagles, they have their problems but they can put up points. The also are in the NFC and will be fighting for their playoffs lives with every game. The Pats will have a tough game on the road their. Then they get Dallas at home. Should be a win but Dallas is more capable than most teams of pulling that one out. Then they go to Houston. If those two teams played this week, I would put my money on Houston. Then they host the Chiefs. I know the Chiefs have struggled the last couple games but I wouldn't be surprised at all if they win every game until New England. This game is a coin flip. Then the Pats host the Bills in week 16, which is an obvious loss for the Pats. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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