BuffaloBill Posted October 7, 2019 Share Posted October 7, 2019 6 minutes ago, Foxx said: they do however have to play the Patriots in NE later this year. us and KC may be all that stands between them and 16 - 0. Their D is a shocker this year but Brady is not playing so special. They will not have a perfect season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foxx Posted October 7, 2019 Share Posted October 7, 2019 1 minute ago, BuffaloBill said: Their D is a shocker this year but Brady is not playing so special. They will not have a perfect season. gosh i hope not. i know that, unlike in the recent past (cough*20 years cough) we are capable of beating them when we go to Gillette on 12/22. i think they understand that too now. it would be sweet to end this dynasty by punching them in the mouth so hard that it just knocks them back to the dark ages and ends it all for them. i want to see Marsha crying on the sideline at home. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
london_bills Posted October 7, 2019 Share Posted October 7, 2019 8 minutes ago, Foxx said: Chiefs visit the Patriots on Dec 8th, time is TBD. Right. KC are just gonna leak points again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RaoulDuke79 Posted October 7, 2019 Share Posted October 7, 2019 34 minutes ago, Seven-N-Nine said: Think of what this team would be with this D and Mahomes. Can't blame fans for wishing Mahomes was the pick. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBill Posted October 7, 2019 Share Posted October 7, 2019 2 minutes ago, Foxx said: gosh i hope not. i know that, unlike in the recent past (cough*20 years cough) we are capable of beating them when we go to Gillette on 12/22. i think they understand that too now. it would be sweet to end this dynasty by punching them in the mouth so hard that it just knocks them back to the dark ages and ends it all for them. i want to see Marsha crying on the sideline at home. It would be fitting. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJB Posted October 7, 2019 Share Posted October 7, 2019 I don't even need to come in these threads for me to know its usually sidetracked with Mahomes talk. Move on people 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bangarang Posted October 7, 2019 Share Posted October 7, 2019 1 minute ago, DJB said: I don't even need to come in these threads for me to know its usually sidetracked with Mahomes talk. Move on people you’re talking about a fan base that’s still upset we took TJ Graham over Russell Wilson.. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seven-N-Nine Posted October 7, 2019 Share Posted October 7, 2019 1 minute ago, DJB said: I don't even need to come in these threads for me to know its usually sidetracked with Mahomes talk. Move on people I think as long as the coach who passed on him is still here, it's a valid crit of the QB position. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJB Posted October 7, 2019 Share Posted October 7, 2019 1 minute ago, Bangarang said: you’re talking about a fan base that’s still upset we took TJ Graham over Russell Wilson.. Dont forget Whitner over Haloti lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBill Posted October 7, 2019 Share Posted October 7, 2019 2 minutes ago, Seven-N-Nine said: I think as long as the coach who passed on him is still here, it's a valid crit of the QB position. Until and unless the Bills and JA defeat them, especially in the playoffs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seven-N-Nine Posted October 7, 2019 Share Posted October 7, 2019 (edited) 1 minute ago, BuffaloBill said: Until and unless the Bills and JA defeat them, especially in the playoffs. I think it comes down to superbowls. Mahomes is likely to win one, Allen isn't really in the conversation, a lot has to be fixed before he is. Edited October 7, 2019 by Seven-N-Nine Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teef Posted October 7, 2019 Share Posted October 7, 2019 49 minutes ago, Seven-N-Nine said: Think of what this team would be with this D and Mahomes. Can't blame fans for wishing Mahomes was the pick. Do you really have to do this after every win? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boatdrinks Posted October 7, 2019 Share Posted October 7, 2019 40 minutes ago, Iverwig said: Except who knows how Mahomes would have developed in Buffalo. 4. reasons: 1. Different offensive staff 2. Mahomes got to sit his first year and learn 3. Totally different philosophy on offense 4. KC has explosive weapons Buffalo does not. While the dead horse beating needs to stop (I thought he was a boom or bust pick with no middle ground ) lets be real as fans. The Bills should have drafted him and it’s pretty obvious. They didn’t and it can’t be changed, but come on. He’s the best QB in history through 25 games and it’s not close. He’s an otherworldly talent , and he’d be pretty great anywhere. Fans definitely need to let it go at this point; he’s going to be around for awhile. Attempts to minimize his talent are as silly as the endless whining. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teddy KGB Posted October 7, 2019 Share Posted October 7, 2019 50 minutes ago, Seven-N-Nine said: Think of what this team would be with this D and Mahomes. Can't blame fans for wishing Mahomes was the pick. Who plays the role of Tre White in your Allen sucks crusade fantasy scenario? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebandit27 Posted October 7, 2019 Share Posted October 7, 2019 20 minutes ago, BuffaloBill said: Their D is a shocker this year but Brady is not playing so special. They will not have a perfect season. They would've lost to 4th Quarter Josh last week...and everyone knows it 3 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D. L. Hot-Flamethrower Posted October 7, 2019 Share Posted October 7, 2019 15 minutes ago, Seven-N-Nine said: I think as long as the coach who passed on him is still here, it's a valid crit of the QB position. Especially after every win.SMH Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seven-N-Nine Posted October 7, 2019 Share Posted October 7, 2019 13 minutes ago, teef said: Do you really have to do this after every win? I did not bring it up, but I will discuss it. 14 minutes ago, Teddy KGB said: Who plays the role of Tre White in your Allen sucks crusade fantasy scenario? QB is more important. And I don't think Allen sucks, he's just nowhere as near as good as Mahomes, most QB's aren't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teddy KGB Posted October 7, 2019 Share Posted October 7, 2019 9 minutes ago, Seven-N-Nine said: I did not bring it up, but I will discuss it. QB is more important. And I don't think Allen sucks, he's just nowhere as near as good as Mahomes, most QB's aren't. Oh, you said something about this defense too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fishgrappler Posted October 7, 2019 Share Posted October 7, 2019 32 minutes ago, Seven-N-Nine said: I think as long as the coach who passed on him is still here, it's a valid crit of the QB position. I think you need to let it go back seat driver!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott7975 Posted October 7, 2019 Share Posted October 7, 2019 2 hours ago, Bangarang said: Sweeney dropped an easy pass but I think the Knox play was just a really good pass break up by the defender rather than a drop. I agree with that. Was a good defensive play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seven-N-Nine Posted October 7, 2019 Share Posted October 7, 2019 10 minutes ago, Teddy KGB said: Oh, you said something about this defense too. Great QB's win superbowls more often than great defenses. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott7975 Posted October 7, 2019 Share Posted October 7, 2019 2 hours ago, Foxx said: i don't think i would even say that the interception was a terrible decision on his part. had Yeldon not stopped running, i don't think the interception is made, not that Yeldon catches it but no interception. i could be wrong though and would love to see a clip of the play. There is a great clip of it in the "grading" thread. You are correct. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stank_Nasty Posted October 7, 2019 Share Posted October 7, 2019 34 minutes ago, thebandit27 said: They would've lost to 4th Quarter Josh last week...and everyone knows it Im firmly convinced he would have fully removed head from butthole and won that game last week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prissythecat Posted October 7, 2019 Share Posted October 7, 2019 1 hour ago, Seven-N-Nine said: Mahomes was MVP in his second year, Allen is still trying not to make mistakes... He's the best QB in the league, spin your position any way you want I guess. Is that you billsareback or jeffismagic? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seven-N-Nine Posted October 7, 2019 Share Posted October 7, 2019 3 minutes ago, prissythecat said: Is that you billsareback or jeffismagic? No, but did you see that play Mahomes just made? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebandit27 Posted October 7, 2019 Share Posted October 7, 2019 Just now, Seven-N-Nine said: No, but did you see that play Mahomes just made? Dude, if the folks that we're onto Mahomes a full year before he started being touted as a 1st round pick can manage not to make every discussion about him, so too can you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transplantbillsfan Posted October 7, 2019 Author Share Posted October 7, 2019 (edited) Hey @Seven-N-Nine this thread is about Josh Allen's wildly improved completion percentage, not some other team's QB. Right now there's a gameday thread specifically for you to talk about Mahomes since the Chiefs are playing right now. Go over there and stop trolling. Edited October 7, 2019 by transplantbillsfan 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seven-N-Nine Posted October 7, 2019 Share Posted October 7, 2019 7 minutes ago, transplantbillsfan said: Hey @Seven-N-Nine this thread is about Josh Allen's wildly improved completion percentage, not some other team's QB. Right now there's a gameday thread specifically for you to talk about Mahomes since the Chiefs are playing right now. Go over there and stop trolling. Someone else brought up Mahomes dude. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldmanfan Posted October 7, 2019 Share Posted October 7, 2019 34 minutes ago, Seven-N-Nine said: Great QB's win superbowls more often than great defenses. You may want to check back through history on that. It would be interesting to see if that’s truly valid. 26 minutes ago, Seven-N-Nine said: No, but did you see that play Mahomes just made? Don’t care. Not my QB. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transplantbillsfan Posted October 7, 2019 Author Share Posted October 7, 2019 23 minutes ago, Seven-N-Nine said: Someone else brought up Mahomes dude. Tangentially and you're the one clinging to it. 38 minutes ago, Seven-N-Nine said: No, but did you see that play Mahomes just made? Here... you must be lost: 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teddy KGB Posted October 7, 2019 Share Posted October 7, 2019 34 minutes ago, Seven-N-Nine said: Someone else brought up Mahomes dude. You brought up the bills defense which doesn’t include Tre White in your scenario ??♂️??♂️ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CincyBillsFan Posted October 7, 2019 Share Posted October 7, 2019 2 hours ago, Seven-N-Nine said: Think of what this team would be with this D and Mahomes. Can't blame fans for wishing Mahomes was the pick. Yes we can. It's a ridiculous obsession. Every draft sees teams pass on studs. Do you think Jacksonville would have rather picked McCaffrey over Fournette in 2017? The Bills didn't even take a QB in 2017. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prissythecat Posted October 7, 2019 Share Posted October 7, 2019 2 hours ago, Seven-N-Nine said: No, but did you see that play Mahomes just made? Yah . I just saw a Mahomes led offense manage to score just 13 points at home against the Colts in a losing effort lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HappyDays Posted October 7, 2019 Share Posted October 7, 2019 3 hours ago, Seven-N-Nine said: No, but did you see that play Mahomes just made? One more amazing play and he might have scored more points than the Bills did today. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dakrider Posted October 7, 2019 Share Posted October 7, 2019 1 hour ago, prissythecat said: Yah . I just saw a Mahomes led offense manage to score just 13 points at home against the Colts in a losing effort lol yeah but he had a good stat line - 22/39 321 yards and 1 TD. Compare that to the lowly Colts QB stats -J. Brissett 18/29 151 yards, No TD's and 1 int! Some would rather lose looking good than win looking ugly. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FeelingOnYouboty Posted October 7, 2019 Share Posted October 7, 2019 Can Josh Allen develop into a perennial Top 10 QB? If he does both the Chiefs and Bills won that trade. Other than that can we leave the Mahomes talk please? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transplantbillsfan Posted October 7, 2019 Author Share Posted October 7, 2019 At the risk of the Mahomes talk continuing, a couple thoughts: Mahomes is a great QB and will continue to be a great QB for his entire career, health pending. BUT... He sat for a year behind a really good veteran QB under the tutelage of a Head Coach with tons of history in developing QBs. And for as much as he was labelled ad "raw" coming out of College, he had 600 more college passing attempts on a D1 team whose competition was significantly greater than that of what Allen saw in Wyoming. And you can go as far back as High School to find the lack of specialization or QB camps that all QBs who wind up in the NFL likely go through. Amazingly, Allen still has A LOT to learn in the NFL game. But you can see strides from last season he's made with regard to accuracy and especially decision making. Right now Allen is still learning while playing, and it's obvious. I don't know that Allen will ever be as good as Mahomes--who is certainly on the trajectory to be the best QB in NFL history statistically--but as cliche as this argument might be, Mahomes wouldn't have been Mahomes in Buffalo. He would have been forced into the starting lineup in 2017 when Taylor struggled in that Rick Dennison offense with a putrid OL and horrible WR corps and Mahomes wouldn't have been putting up the video game numbers he puts up in KC. Mahomes has had a great team and a great coach surrounding him the last 2 years. And he's been great. None of those things are mutually exclusive. Last year our Defense was great but our offense was bad, particularly at OL and WR. The Bills are still putting the pieces around Allen, and I don't think McBeane are done yet. But with those added pieces, you can SEE the improvements, even if the stats aren't reflected there. So while I honestly don't think it's reasonable to expect Allen to be better than Mahomes, over the span of their careers I do believe it's possible Allen can be the Jim Kelly to Mahomes's Marino. Give Mahomes the statistics and personal accolades. Give us the Championships... just make them NFL Championships rather than Conference Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FiftyPercent Posted October 7, 2019 Share Posted October 7, 2019 Allen has really taken a dump all over my forum avatar. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted October 7, 2019 Share Posted October 7, 2019 5 minutes ago, FiftyPercent said: Allen has really taken a dump all over my forum avatar. I'm sure you're broken up over it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted October 7, 2019 Share Posted October 7, 2019 17 hours ago, Seven-N-Nine said: Someone else brought up Mahomes dude. LOL... he scolded you for a Mahomes reference when this entire every living thread repeats the same old news. I think the NFL world is now accepting of the Inaccurate passer as a fallacy. We can almost say this thread is obsolete Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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