row_33 Posted September 23, 2019 Share Posted September 23, 2019 12 minutes ago, JinxedBill said: Browns collapse is good for us. They were going to be competing with us for playoff seeding at the onset of the season. the Browns have shown NOTHING worthy of being a playoff contender for generations oh please Jinxed... tell me what proved they were going to go 11-5 this season? 2018 NFL Cleveland Browns 7 8 1 2017 NFL Cleveland Browns 0 16 0 2016 NFL Cleveland Browns 1 15 0 2015 NFL Cleveland Browns 3 13 0 2014 NFL Cleveland Browns 7 9 0 2013 NFL Cleveland Browns 4 12 0 2012 NFL Cleveland Browns 5 11 0 2011 NFL Cleveland Browns 4 12 0 2010 NFL Cleveland Browns 5 11 0 2009 NFL Cleveland Browns 5 11 0 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JinxedBill Posted September 23, 2019 Share Posted September 23, 2019 1 minute ago, row_33 said: the Browns have shown NOTHING worthy of being a playoff contender for generations oh please Jinxed... tell me what proved they were going to go 11-5 this season? 2018 NFL Cleveland Browns 7 8 1 2017 NFL Cleveland Browns 0 16 0 2016 NFL Cleveland Browns 1 15 0 2015 NFL Cleveland Browns 3 13 0 2014 NFL Cleveland Browns 7 9 0 2013 NFL Cleveland Browns 4 12 0 2012 NFL Cleveland Browns 5 11 0 2011 NFL Cleveland Browns 4 12 0 2010 NFL Cleveland Browns 5 11 0 2009 NFL Cleveland Browns 5 11 0 I just meant as a possible AFC team to fend off. Agreed tho they haven’t done much but we have not been stellar either. The bills and Browns this year were supposed to be better. So far only the bills have lived up to that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Hindsight Posted September 23, 2019 Share Posted September 23, 2019 2 minutes ago, JESSEFEFFER said: I got that vibe from their joint practices with Colts. Seemed to be lots of fights caused by the Browns after they struggled in the practices. Kitchens came with the "we won't back down and will impose our will" takes. That seemed like a total abdication from "don't be dumb, don't be dirty" thinking that a head coach should promote. Too much attititude at the expense of discipline doesn't earn anyone much in life. Yeah I'm struggling to find Kitchens philosophy. They will get killed if they can't find some discipline. I'm not sure Kitchens is the right coach for that McDermott would do very well there Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just Joshin' Posted September 23, 2019 Share Posted September 23, 2019 1 hour ago, YoloinOhio said: Element of surprise? Nope - bad play calling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted September 23, 2019 Share Posted September 23, 2019 2015 - 2017 4 and freaking 44 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatsFanNH Posted September 23, 2019 Share Posted September 23, 2019 The BROWNS BIGGEST MISTAKE WAS not REPLACING THEIR RETIRING ot WITH A TOM NOTCH TALENT EITHER IN fa OR THE dRAFT. Their O line been awful! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted September 23, 2019 Share Posted September 23, 2019 22 minutes ago, JinxedBill said: I just meant as a possible AFC team to fend off. Agreed tho they haven’t done much but we have not been stellar either. The bills and Browns this year were supposed to be better. So far only the bills have lived up to that. supposed to be? who above a dingbat thought the Browns were going to be a very good team? they suck, have for a long time oh yes, the NFL lets horrible teams suddenly win, it's only fair Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dollars 2 donuts Posted September 23, 2019 Share Posted September 23, 2019 3 hours ago, eball said: By losing two of their first three they've put themselves in a real tough spot...four of the next five are on the road (@BAL, @SF, SEA, @NE***, @DEN). By the time they catch a "break" playing the Broncos they might already be out of it at 1-6. Wow. You're mistaken, eball. They are a Super Bowl contender and they have the best QB in the draft from last year. Start reading the national media or miss out. It's your funeral. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WideNine Posted September 23, 2019 Share Posted September 23, 2019 3 hours ago, PromoTheRobot said: 50% comp 195 yds 1TD/1Int. What would people say if that was Josh Allen's stat line? "The sky is falling." "Grab your pitch forks and torches" "I told you so." "They should have picked Mahomes" for the 1,000,000,000th time? Just throwing out scenarios. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted September 23, 2019 Share Posted September 23, 2019 1 hour ago, mrags said: I do like Baker as a personality and a person. It’s not his fault he’s been dubbed by the media and the idiot football “genius’s” that he would be the 2nd coming. But it I do really like his personality and his commercials. The ones about getting his house in order are awesome. Eh I can’t get down with a QB who trashes his peers. https://www.google.com/amp/s/nypost.com/2019/08/20/baker-mayfield-trashes-daniel-jones-as-a-loser/amp/ 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dollars 2 donuts Posted September 23, 2019 Share Posted September 23, 2019 1 hour ago, Royale with Cheese said: I don't know why, I just don't know....but I hate the Browns. Not as much as the Pats but I always pull against them. It's just one of those things. I loved watching Baker struggle.... ...Mom?! 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted September 23, 2019 Share Posted September 23, 2019 6 minutes ago, WideNine said: "The sky is falling." "Grab your pitch forks and torches" "I told you so." "They should have picked Mahomes" for the 1,000,000,000th time? Just throwing out scenarios. Sounds about right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloHokie13 Posted September 23, 2019 Share Posted September 23, 2019 Think they'll ship us OBJ if they're 1-6? ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrags Posted September 23, 2019 Share Posted September 23, 2019 13 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: Eh I can’t get down with a QB who trashes his peers. https://www.google.com/amp/s/nypost.com/2019/08/20/baker-mayfield-trashes-daniel-jones-as-a-loser/amp/ “I cannot believe the Giants took Daniel Jones,” said Mayfield, who was motivated to make the comments by a “SportsCenter” segment on Jones so comment that he couldn’t believe the Giants took Jones early in the draft when everyone else was projecting him to be picked later is trashing him? Really? or maybe it’s the other take. Instead of coming off like he’s “trashing” Jones, maybe he’s showing his opinion about Eli Manning. Like he cannot believe the Giants are going to move on from the next Giant QB that’s ever suited up. I guess You saw what he said differently. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted September 23, 2019 Share Posted September 23, 2019 43 minutes ago, PatsFanNH said: The BROWNS BIGGEST MISTAKE WAS not REPLACING THEIR RETIRING ot WITH A TOM NOTCH TALENT EITHER IN fa OR THE dRAFT. Their O line been awful! can you translate that into English from Putz Speak Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick the Greek Posted September 23, 2019 Share Posted September 23, 2019 3 hours ago, row_33 said: Not sure why ao many people had some romantic fantasy about them suddenly being a great team They were everyone’s, cute, sexy pick to be good this year. Man, does to feel good to see them fall FLAT! The Rams are good tho, as they went to the super bowl last year. 1-2 is still a horrid start though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted September 23, 2019 Share Posted September 23, 2019 1 minute ago, SlimShady'sGhost said: can you translate that into English from Putz Speak CAPS LOCK IS CRUISE CONTROL FOR COOL 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatsFanNH Posted September 23, 2019 Share Posted September 23, 2019 Just now, SlimShady'sGhost said: can you translate that into English from Putz Speak Aww i'll use small words for you. All Pro Tackle retired from Browns.. Browns did not replace him... Mayfield is now running for his life. AKA all the talent around him means nothing if he has no time! 1 minute ago, Joe in Winslow said: CAPS LOCK IS CRUISE CONTROL FOR COOL Nah I had it on accidentally... and typing fast while working.. make a lot of mistakes lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted September 23, 2019 Share Posted September 23, 2019 11 minutes ago, mrags said: “I cannot believe the Giants took Daniel Jones,” said Mayfield, who was motivated to make the comments by a “SportsCenter” segment on Jones so comment that he couldn’t believe the Giants took Jones early in the draft when everyone else was projecting him to be picked later is trashing him? Really? or maybe it’s the other take. Instead of coming off like he’s “trashing” Jones, maybe he’s showing his opinion about Eli Manning. Like he cannot believe the Giants are going to move on from the next Giant QB that’s ever suited up. I guess You saw what he said differently. “Either you have a history of winning and being that guy for your team, or you don’t,” said Mayfield a guy who has a losing record as an nfl starter 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrags Posted September 23, 2019 Share Posted September 23, 2019 3 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: “Either you have a history of winning and being that guy for your team, or you don’t,” said Mayfield a guy who has a losing record as an nfl starter Hey didn’t read the original article. I read the link you posted. But it sounds like it’s taken out of context to me. The media chose to pick what they wanted out of that. I doubt Baker was talking about an arguable HOF QB in Eli Manning. But hey, that’s my opinion and what I took from the story. 1 hour ago, Royale with Cheese said: I don't know why, I just don't know....but I hate the Browns. Not as much as the Pats but I always pull against them. It's just one of those things. I loved watching Baker struggle.... Nothing like keeping some pit cash around. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apuszczalowski Posted September 23, 2019 Share Posted September 23, 2019 3 hours ago, YoloinOhio said: It’s funny. I don’t have a dog in the fight (no pun intended) because I neither like nor dislike the Browns but living here and listening to the homer media all offseason has been nauseating especially when they constantly put down josh Allen and crow about baker. The main thing they always go back to is accuracy. Mind you I’m pretty sure they’ve never actually watched him play but whatever. Baker is “incredibly accurate. Pinpoint accurate” they say over and over while making their plans to go to canton for his HOF speech. Every Thursday when they pick the games, they pick the Bills to lose simply because “I just don’t believe in josh Allen. He’s just not accurate.” They never say anything but that. Apparently he’s the only player on the team but I digress. Yet I’m constantly watching baker throw the ball haphazardly in the direction of no one. At least they could take off the homer glasses for a second. They do the same thing with Lamar Jackson too btw. “He’s a gimmick. He won’t last. It’s not sustainable. Baker is Drew Brees.” Maybe he is the most accurate QB to ever play the game. Maybe every single one of his throws go to the exactly spot that he intended to throw it to and it's everyone else that aren't where they should be? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Vader Posted September 23, 2019 Share Posted September 23, 2019 4 hours ago, Sweats said: Don’t know why they’re getting so many Prime time games.....they’re still the same ole Browns The league was enamored by Baker Mayfield and Odell Beckham being on the same team. Just like last year when the 49'ers got a bunch of prime time games all because they signed Jimmy Garoppolo, not because they were a good team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MR8 Posted September 23, 2019 Share Posted September 23, 2019 4 hours ago, BuffaloBill said: They won the offseason(s). Drafted a QB with a huge personality, then picked up a WR with the same. Now all they need to do is sign AB and they will have the trifecta. Oh my god, can you imagine how bad things would get if AB went in to Cleveland to play with OBJ and Landry? People would be all about them being the best offense ever then AB would go all AB and the melt down would be AMAZING. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBaumer Posted September 23, 2019 Share Posted September 23, 2019 I think Browns fans would be saying the same thing if we had to face that Rams D. Losing by 7 to them while they had the ball at the 5 yard line in the end is hardly a red flag and shows how far they have come in 1 year. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrDawkinstein Posted September 23, 2019 Share Posted September 23, 2019 4 hours ago, GunnerBill said: I don't put last night on Baker, really. The Head Coach is waaaaaaaay out of his depth. He is Steve Wilks of this year. One and done. He showed it in the postgame presser too. Had a bit of what I'd consider a meltdown on the press when they were asking him basic, thought-process questions. Just on the postgame alone, it seemed he isnt cut out for the job. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted September 23, 2019 Share Posted September 23, 2019 5 minutes ago, BuffaloBaumer said: I think Browns fans would be saying the same thing if we had to face that Rams D. Losing by 7 to them while they had the ball at the 5 yard line in the end is hardly a red flag and shows how far they have come in 1 year. What does their drubbing at home at the hands of the Titans say? They're looking to be in a lousy place. Upcoming schedule road-heavy against TOUGH competition. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted September 23, 2019 Share Posted September 23, 2019 6 minutes ago, BuffaloBaumer said: I think Browns fans would be saying the same thing if we had to face that Rams D. Losing by 7 to them while they had the ball at the 5 yard line in the end is hardly a red flag and shows how far they have come in 1 year. They should have won the game and didn’t. That’s exactly where they were a year ago. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dopey Posted September 23, 2019 Share Posted September 23, 2019 2 hours ago, YoloinOhio said: Simple, he was trying to fool everyone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cd1 Posted September 23, 2019 Share Posted September 23, 2019 3 hours ago, billsfan1959 said: It really is funny how a national narrative / perspective on a player can establish such deep roots that, no matter what the actual evidence may show, the player seems to be constantly judged by that narrative / perspective. We know what it is with Allen. In Mayfield's case, it has almost been the opposite: Annointed as a QB who will lead the Browns to the SB, even though, in games against good defenses, he has struggled. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted September 23, 2019 Share Posted September 23, 2019 okay, so hold on those Cleveland Browns 2019 Amazing Champions of All Time t-shirts for a bit... can't wait for the offseason to read 14,000 posts about how the 2020 Browns will shock and awe the world.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridgewaycynic2013 Posted September 23, 2019 Share Posted September 23, 2019 9 minutes ago, Dopey said: Simple, he was trying to fool everyone. Including himself. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted September 23, 2019 Share Posted September 23, 2019 THIS is the 2019 Browns, as played by Terry Bradshaw Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dpberr Posted September 23, 2019 Share Posted September 23, 2019 That team played better under Gregg Williams last year. Kitchens IMO is another coordinator who's a great, bright coordinator but a mediocre coach. As head coach, he can't focus on what he did well last year with Mayfield and play calling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridgewaycynic2013 Posted September 23, 2019 Share Posted September 23, 2019 (edited) Jeebus, nowadays that hit on Bradshaw would be a five year ban for the defensive player. Compensatory draft picks, too, to the QB’s team if you’re connected...? Edited September 23, 2019 by Ridgewaycynic2013 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCBills Posted September 23, 2019 Share Posted September 23, 2019 28 minutes ago, BuffaloBaumer said: I think Browns fans would be saying the same thing if we had to face that Rams D. Losing by 7 to them while they had the ball at the 5 yard line in the end is hardly a red flag and shows how far they have come in 1 year. I think we'd all be freaking out if Josh Allen played like Baker Mayfield has in the first 3 games. That's really the end all, be all of this. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted September 23, 2019 Share Posted September 23, 2019 15 minutes ago, Ridgewaycynic2013 said: Jeebus, nowadays that hit on Bradshaw would be a five year ban for the defensive player. Compensatory draft picks, too, to the QB’s team if you’re connected...? could you imagine them calling it seriously on tape ??? NFL films GLORIFIED in this hit, got Jon Facenda to call it and the orchestra with xylophone to hype it up some fans for that team still are touchy about it, basically cost them the 1976 season as a top dog, and a three-peat ------------------------ the Browns suck again??? actually 7-9 might take the division and a home playoff game in 2019.... but that can't quite be what i was reading about all offseason.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridgewaycynic2013 Posted September 23, 2019 Share Posted September 23, 2019 Just now, row_33 said: some fans for that team still are touchy about it, basically cost them the 1976 season as a top dog, and a three-peat I wonder if anyone had the foresight to do ‘before’ and ‘after’ interviews with Bradshaw after this hit? * Before: “My role is to drop back, stay in protection, and wait until the receiver is clear before throwing”. After: “Hoo-WEE! You ever et good fresh catched gator?!” 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bookie Man Posted September 23, 2019 Share Posted September 23, 2019 I feel bad for Browns fans (kinda). But that's also one less team in the WC hunt, if they don't get it together. One that was expected to be there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted September 23, 2019 Share Posted September 23, 2019 26 minutes ago, Ridgewaycynic2013 said: I wonder if anyone had the foresight to do ‘before’ and ‘after’ interviews with Bradshaw after this hit? * Before: “My role is to drop back, stay in protection, and wait until the receiver is clear before throwing”. After: “Hoo-WEE! You ever et good fresh catched gator?!” i watched the game, they duct-taped Terry to a board and stretchered him off, think they dropped him a few times on the way out of the stadium they didn't play "down on the corner" on the PA system like they did when Clark knocked McGahee out in the playoff game I understand Terry has mellowed a bit over the years on the play..... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Socal-805 Posted September 23, 2019 Share Posted September 23, 2019 Cleveland probably makes the playoffs ahead of Buffalo: We have beaten 3 teams with a collective 1-8 record - from behind yesterday. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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