IDBillzFan Posted September 23, 2019 Share Posted September 23, 2019 1 hour ago, Joe in Winslow said: Odell Beckham. Period. And Landry. And Chubb. And a very good defense which almost won it for them last night if the offensive play calling wasn't so bad. Frankly, I was convinced they'd be a sleeper team this year, but I didn't know enough about Kitchens to factor that in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted September 23, 2019 Share Posted September 23, 2019 10 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: OMG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aristocrat Posted September 23, 2019 Share Posted September 23, 2019 11 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: is that a fireable call? i think so 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuck Wagon Posted September 23, 2019 Share Posted September 23, 2019 Part of me feels for Browns fans. At the same time I've seen them taking shots at Josh Allen all offseason long. So it's hard to say they deserve this, but they way they pumped up this team they do. They didn't beat a single playoff team in their run to end last season, will likely start 1-6 playing most all the playoff teams they'll see, then finish the year on a 6-3 run against subpar competition and get pumped up all offseason all over again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted September 23, 2019 Share Posted September 23, 2019 You can't throw a DIVA or two at a team and expect the W's to just drop in place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuck Wagon Posted September 23, 2019 Share Posted September 23, 2019 1 minute ago, IDBillzFan said: And Landry. And Chubb. And a very good defense which almost won it for them last night if the offensive play calling wasn't so bad. Frankly, I was convinced they'd be a sleeper team this year, but I didn't know enough about Kitchens to factor that in. Landry is badly overrated IMO. He was in a scheme designed for him to shine in Miami, ie the same scheme that made Crowder look like a world beater week 1. He can't make any plays down the field and best case is a much more hyped, much worse version of Edelman. That offense is Odell and Chubb and that's it. They ignored the oline (they cut their LT before the season and no team stepped in to try to sway him while he was free, which says all you need to know). All flash and zero substance with huge personalities the coach won't be able to control if they don't turn it around QUICK. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IDBillzFan Posted September 23, 2019 Share Posted September 23, 2019 Just now, Chuck Wagon said: All flash and zero substance with huge personalities the coach won't be able to control if they don't turn it around QUICK. This is a good point. Is Kitchens able to keep everyone focused, or will the OBJ's of the world start to gripe? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted September 23, 2019 Share Posted September 23, 2019 26 minutes ago, KGun12TD said: When you have a bunch of DBags talking too much about how great they're going to be...this is what you get. I hate their QB as well. it’s balanced by Bills fans on here telling me the Pats haven’t done enough to get the benefit of the doubt Probably the same dooshes 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted September 23, 2019 Share Posted September 23, 2019 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transient Posted September 23, 2019 Share Posted September 23, 2019 11 minutes ago, mrags said: I do like Baker as a personality and a person. It’s not his fault he’s been dubbed by the media and the idiot football “genius’s” that he would be the 2nd coming. But it I do really like his personality and his commercials. The ones about getting his house in order are awesome. I’m looking forward to Allen’s February Disney endorsement, myself. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Jokeman Posted September 23, 2019 Share Posted September 23, 2019 2 hours ago, Sweats said: Don’t know why they’re getting so many Prime time games.....they’re still the same ole Browns Baker was supposed to be the poster boy of the next great QB, toss in they have guys like Beckham and Myles Garrett. On paper they have as much talent as you'd want except maybe Baker's not reaching his full potential or he just played better last year as teams didn't have enough film on him and/or his HC is a better OC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted September 23, 2019 Share Posted September 23, 2019 Lots of expectations for a team that still needs to learn how to win 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cle23 Posted September 23, 2019 Share Posted September 23, 2019 6 minutes ago, Chuck Wagon said: Landry is badly overrated IMO. He was in a scheme designed for him to shine in Miami, ie the same scheme that made Crowder look like a world beater week 1. He can't make any plays down the field and best case is a much more hyped, much worse version of Edelman. That offense is Odell and Chubb and that's it. They ignored the oline (they cut their LT before the season and no team stepped in to try to sway him while he was free, which says all you need to know). All flash and zero substance with huge personalities the coach won't be able to control if they don't turn it around QUICK. They cut Robinson for a day, and he knew they would re-sign him. He isn't great, probably average at best, but the league as a whole is short on tackles. Cutting him allowed them to IR a player who otherwise would have had to go through waivers 1st. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuck Wagon Posted September 23, 2019 Share Posted September 23, 2019 Just now, cle23 said: They cut Robinson for a day, and he knew they would re-sign him. He isn't great, probably average at best, but the league as a whole is short on tackles. Cutting him allowed them to IR a player who otherwise would have had to go through waivers 1st. Yes. And no team stepped in to try to beat their offer on Robinson. You'd think in a league short on tackles if a starting caliber one hits the streets someone would at least make a competitive offer. Maybe the player / agent told other teams not to bother, but that seems like bad business. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrags Posted September 23, 2019 Share Posted September 23, 2019 4 minutes ago, The Jokeman said: Baker was supposed to be the poster boy of the next great QB, toss in they have guys like Beckham and Myles Garrett. On paper they have as much talent as you'd want except maybe Baker's not reaching his full potential or he just played better last year as teams didn't have enough film on him and/or his HC is a better OC. It’s their HC. Kitchens is a joke. I really want Baker to succeed. I like him. But he won’t be any good with that idiot for HC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted September 23, 2019 Share Posted September 23, 2019 (edited) I don't know why, I just don't know....but I hate the Browns. Not as much as the Pats but I always pull against them. It's just one of those things. I loved watching Baker struggle.... Edited September 23, 2019 by Royale with Cheese 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mannc Posted September 23, 2019 Share Posted September 23, 2019 2 hours ago, FeelingOnYouboty said: Kinda weird that Freddie Kitchens is a HC At least he looks (and sounds) the part...? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted September 23, 2019 Share Posted September 23, 2019 how do you hate a team that has been non-contending since 1964, a handful of years of decent play since. more crazy is thinking they will be one of the better teams just because their QB is hyped Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JinxedBill Posted September 23, 2019 Share Posted September 23, 2019 Browns collapse is good for us. They were going to be competing with us for playoff seeding at the onset of the season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JESSEFEFFER Posted September 23, 2019 Share Posted September 23, 2019 1 hour ago, Captain Hindsight said: Anyone paying attention this offseason could have told you they were going to struggle. No Oline to speak of and a rookie HC? I thought playoffs were possible with all that talent, but i thought people betting them to win the SB was laughably optimistic I got that vibe from their joint practices with Colts. Seemed to be lots of fights caused by the Browns after they struggled in the practices. Kitchens came with the "we won't back down and will impose our will" takes. That seemed like a total abdication from "don't be dumb, don't be dirty" thinking that a head coach should promote. Too much attititude at the expense of discipline doesn't earn anyone much in life. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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