PlayoffsPlease Posted September 13, 2019 Share Posted September 13, 2019 Brady, Manning and Rothlisberger have dominated the QB position in the AFC in an insane way this century. Who is the fourth best. Sad to say even on one seasons experience, i think the strongest argument can be made for Pat Mahomes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaBillsFanSince1973 Posted September 13, 2019 Share Posted September 13, 2019 only 19 years in, still some time. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RiotAct Posted September 13, 2019 Share Posted September 13, 2019 Rivers 12 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PlayoffsPlease Posted September 13, 2019 Author Share Posted September 13, 2019 Just now, RiotAct said: Rivers I can go with this. Would you say his career has been a disappointment due to the lack of team successes? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBillies Posted September 13, 2019 Share Posted September 13, 2019 Luck. Minus the injuries, he was well on his way 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChevyVanMiller Posted September 13, 2019 Share Posted September 13, 2019 Peterman. Can there be any debate? 1 4 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PlayoffsPlease Posted September 13, 2019 Author Share Posted September 13, 2019 6 minutes ago, BuffaloBillies said: Luck. Minus the injuries, he was well on his way Question in intended to be about actual results , not potential. I think Rivers is the right answer. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chandler#81 Posted September 13, 2019 Share Posted September 13, 2019 This is a poor spin on the NFL ? celebration. Was this question even dreamed of in 1938? Of course not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MassHog Posted September 13, 2019 Share Posted September 13, 2019 Rivers for sure. Luck comes after him, then after that I guess its Maholmes? After that I guess its Flacco? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted September 13, 2019 Share Posted September 13, 2019 21 minutes ago, RiotAct said: Rivers I would go with this Possible debate: Alex Smith, but I think Rivers is the better QB and Smith had the luck to play for the better regular-season coach and team 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bangarang Posted September 13, 2019 Share Posted September 13, 2019 Rivers and it’s not even close 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BADOLBILZ Posted September 13, 2019 Share Posted September 13, 2019 31 minutes ago, PlayoffsPlease said: Brady, Manning and Rothlisberger have dominated the QB position in the AFC in an insane way this century. Who is the fourth best. Sad to say even on one seasons experience, i think the strongest argument can be made for Pat Mahomes. Rivers Luck Flacco in that order I'd say.........that's 40% of AFC teams that had some degree of stability(or in the Broncos case a brief run of dominance) at the position during those 19 seasons. I expect that % to be much higher over the next 20 years..........it's getting easier to play the position and the incoming talent level has been high in recent years and the salaries are making it worthwhile for players on the fence about baseball/football to choose football. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach Tuesday Posted September 13, 2019 Share Posted September 13, 2019 Brees 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoPoy88 Posted September 13, 2019 Share Posted September 13, 2019 (edited) Yeah it’s Rivers. Or Brees as Tuesday just said. Edited September 13, 2019 by JoPoy88 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yungmack Posted September 13, 2019 Share Posted September 13, 2019 1 minute ago, Coach Tuesday said: Brees Brees is in the NFC. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PlayoffsPlease Posted September 13, 2019 Author Share Posted September 13, 2019 22 minutes ago, Chandler#81 said: This is a poor spin on the NFL ? celebration. Was this question even dreamed of in 1938? Of course not. Hapless Bills Fan is a moderator who participated like an adult. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach Tuesday Posted September 13, 2019 Share Posted September 13, 2019 2 minutes ago, yungmack said: Brees is in the NFC. Ah. I missed the question. He started in the AFC, does that count? 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BADOLBILZ Posted September 13, 2019 Share Posted September 13, 2019 Just now, yungmack said: Brees is in the NFC. He would probably crack the top 15 AFC QB's for the period for his two excellent seasons in SD at a time when QB'ing was a lot harder. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PlayoffsPlease Posted September 13, 2019 Author Share Posted September 13, 2019 4 minutes ago, BADOLBILZ said: Rivers Luck Flacco in that order I'd say.........that's 40% of AFC teams that had some degree of stability(or in the Broncos case a brief run of dominance) at the position during those 19 seasons. I expect that % to be much higher over the next 20 years..........it's getting easier to play the position and the incoming talent level has been high in recent years and the salaries are making it worthwhile for players on the fence about baseball/football to choose football. I agree with this, unless you project Mahomes after 17 games as a starter, but won't quibble with anyone who says that is too soon. With Luck's retirement and the seeming demise of Cam Newton (NFC I know) It really shows how hard it is too have a QB that really "succeeds" the way fans would like them too. I would venture to guess that all of Rivers', Luck's and Flacco's fans are actually fairly disappointed with the careers, even while respecting their skills. 2 minutes ago, Coach Tuesday said: Ah. I missed the question. He started in the AFC, does that count? shot and a score with the Chargers reference. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yungmack Posted September 13, 2019 Share Posted September 13, 2019 1 minute ago, BADOLBILZ said: He would probably crack the top 15 AFC QB's for the period for his two excellent seasons in SD at a time when QB'ing was a lot harder. There is that. When you look at it, the AFC has had a pretty poor run of QBs the last 20 years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aristocrat Posted September 13, 2019 Share Posted September 13, 2019 Josh allen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PlayoffsPlease Posted September 13, 2019 Author Share Posted September 13, 2019 4 minutes ago, yungmack said: There is that. When you look at it, the AFC has had a pretty poor run of QBs the last 20 years. I am not sure this is true. Who would list as the top 4 QB;s in the NFC this century. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
co_springs_billsfan Posted September 13, 2019 Share Posted September 13, 2019 4. Rivers 5. Luck 6. Carson Palmer Honorable mention: Cutler, Fitzpatrick, Pennington, McNair 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan5121 Posted September 13, 2019 Share Posted September 13, 2019 2 minutes ago, co_springs_billsfan said: 4. Rivers 5. Luck 6. Carson Palmer Honorable mention: Cutler, Fitzpatrick, Pennington, McNair Maybe Matt Schaub as honorable mention for a few seasons 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PlayoffsPlease Posted September 13, 2019 Author Share Posted September 13, 2019 2 minutes ago, co_springs_billsfan said: 4. Rivers 5. Luck 6. Carson Palmer Honorable mention: Cutler, Fitzpatrick, Pennington, McNair Carson Palmer's deserves a mention. Good call. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RiotAct Posted September 14, 2019 Share Posted September 14, 2019 34 minutes ago, aristocrat said: Josh allen not yet.... not yet! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CDogg20 Posted September 14, 2019 Share Posted September 14, 2019 It will be Mahomes very shortly if his numbers keep up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted September 14, 2019 Share Posted September 14, 2019 45 minutes ago, PlayoffsPlease said: Hapless Bills Fan is a moderator who participated like an adult. Everyone is entitled to his or her opinion, including that expressed by Chandler But I apologize for participating like an adult, I’ll try harder to channel my “inner child” next time Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PlayoffsPlease Posted September 14, 2019 Author Share Posted September 14, 2019 (edited) 18 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: Everyone is entitled to his or her opinion, including that expressed by Chandler But I apologize for participating like an adult, I’ll try harder to channel my “inner child” next time Chandler is more like a [. ], but whatever. (this is an opinion I assume I am entitled too) Edited September 14, 2019 by Hapless Bills Fan Inappropriate language Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan_34 Posted September 14, 2019 Share Posted September 14, 2019 1 hour ago, PlayoffsPlease said: Brady, Manning and Rothlisberger have dominated the QB position in the AFC in an insane way this century. Who is the fourth best. Sad to say even on one seasons experience, i think the strongest argument can be made for Pat Mahomes. Carr has been pretty good but not dominant like Mahomes. Luck maybe? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALLEN1QB Posted September 14, 2019 Share Posted September 14, 2019 Fitz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted September 14, 2019 Share Posted September 14, 2019 9 minutes ago, PlayoffsPlease said: Chandler is more like [], but whatever. (this is an opinion I assume I am entitled too) Mmmmm, when your opinion involves insulting another poster, you’re entitled to have it but keep it off the site. Thanks. (Mods are posters too) 5 minutes ago, ALLEN1QB said: Fitz Not even close 21 minutes ago, CDogg20 said: It will be Mahomes very shortly if his numbers keep up Has to keep up for a while. Bunch of guys who were good for a year or two not being mentioned. 53 minutes ago, PlayoffsPlease said: Carson Palmer's deserves a mention. Good call. Agree, Palmer had a good run with a meh team in Cincy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted September 14, 2019 Share Posted September 14, 2019 Yo Granny? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BullBuchanan Posted September 14, 2019 Share Posted September 14, 2019 I think Manning makes it twice, once as a colt and once as a bronco.I think he had two hall of fame careers and no one even noticed. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KD in CA Posted September 14, 2019 Share Posted September 14, 2019 2 hours ago, Coach Tuesday said: Ah. I missed the question. He started in the AFC, does that count? It counts more than Mahomes, who has played one year. Flacco is higher on the list than most want to admit. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RiotAct Posted September 14, 2019 Share Posted September 14, 2019 2 hours ago, PlayoffsPlease said: I can go with this. Would you say his career has been a disappointment due to the lack of team successes? For sure. I think if he was asked this question he would say “no”, but I’m sure privately he’s maybe a tad disappointed or even miffed (although he still has some years left in his NFL career... maybe he’ll even play as long as Brady!) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJS Posted September 14, 2019 Share Posted September 14, 2019 (edited) Umm, probably Rivers Edited September 14, 2019 by MJS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Posted September 14, 2019 Share Posted September 14, 2019 Fourth best...does it really matter? Not trying to be a douche... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PlayoffsPlease Posted September 14, 2019 Author Share Posted September 14, 2019 7 minutes ago, Happy Gilmore said: Fourth best...does it really matter? Not trying to be a douche... I think it matters. if you had a crystal ball and were told Josh Allen would be the fourth best QB over the next 12 years would you want the team to try to improve the position. Or would that be good enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Posted September 14, 2019 Share Posted September 14, 2019 Just now, PlayoffsPlease said: I think it matters. if you had a crystal ball and were told Josh Allen would be the fourth best QB over the next 12 years would you want the team to try to improve the position. Or would that be good enough. Ah, I see. In that case, I see pretty much a tie between Phillip Rivers and Alex Smith. Both **should** be good enough to win with, but thanks to Brady, Manning, and their coaches, no dice. So top four can matter, but so does coaching. Flacco is an honorable mention, though he got hot at the right time and really couldn't replicate his SB run. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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