Dopey Posted August 31, 2019 Share Posted August 31, 2019 3 hours ago, gobills1212 said: Wasted valuable seconds telling us this Wasted valuable seconds replying to this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hondo in seattle Posted August 31, 2019 Share Posted August 31, 2019 8 minutes ago, mjd1001 said: Maybe for what they want in a role...Yeldon is better than McCoy. Meaning..if they decided that Singletary is going to get the bulk of the carries...and Gore is going to be the veteran/pass blocking back/locker room guy.....then the only 'position' left for RB3 is a guy who is a 3rd down back/ride the bench guy. Maybe they feel Yeldon will be better at...or at least fit the role better than McCoy...and a MUCH lower salary. I think you're probably right. McD wasn't necessarily looking at who's the best back, 2nd best, 3rd best, etc. He was looking at what 3 backs he wanted to go into the season with. Beane talked today about running back by committee. So the question becomes: Which backs collectively make up the best committee? You don't want all your backs to have identical skill sets. Singletary will be playing the Shady role this year. Even thinking this through, I'm still surprised and have some concerns. What if SIngletary gets hurt? And so far, to me, Singletary looks like a slower version of the original Shady. I really hope I'm wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iinii Posted August 31, 2019 Share Posted August 31, 2019 1 hour ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: Not at a $6.1M salary they couldn't Obviously no longer elite. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nihilarian Posted August 31, 2019 Share Posted August 31, 2019 Really hope this move doesn't come back to bite them in the a$$. Shady was an elite back in the NFL and Singletary hasn't proven a thing as the starting NFL RB yet. Even Todd Gurley had a down year behind a bad line in 2016 and yet that line was no where near as bad as the Bills line was last season. 6-10 was a gift with a revolving door at QB half the year. We will see...Beane may lose his god status...or Bills fans might be saying god a lot this year and it won't be with Beane. Like GDamn, Gdammit, for the love of God... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreggTX Posted August 31, 2019 Share Posted August 31, 2019 I think LeSean can still play, but Singletary obviously showed them that they don't need McCoy and he's a lot cheaper. There's no doubt several teams will be interested. Would Shady sign with a team that already has an established starter? I kinda doubt it because I think he can still be a #1 RB and be very good. He'd like to play in PA, I'd wager, but he'd probably be behind Conner in Pittsburgh. I'm not sure about Philly. I also don't know everyone's cap situation. Put you top guess down and then maybe I'll run a poll with the top handful of choices that I see. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fan in San Diego Posted August 31, 2019 Share Posted August 31, 2019 Dallas? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted August 31, 2019 Share Posted August 31, 2019 Chiefs, Chargers, Steelers, Texans are all options. Just now, Fan in San Diego said: Dallas? Zeke likely signing this weekend Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted August 31, 2019 Share Posted August 31, 2019 6 minutes ago, Nihilarian said: Really hope this move doesn't come back to bite them in the a$$. Shady was an elite back in the NFL and Singletary hasn't proven a thing as the starting NFL RB yet. Even Todd Gurley had a down year behind a bad line in 2016 and yet that line was no where near as bad as the Bills line was last season. 6-10 was a gift with a revolving door at QB half the year. We will see...Beane may lose his god status...or Bills fans might be saying god a lot this year and it won't be with Beane. Like GDamn, Gdammit, for the love of God... Even you said WAS not IS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whatdrought Posted August 31, 2019 Share Posted August 31, 2019 I doubt he gets a chance to start this late in the game... My guess is KC- reunite with Reid, though I've been saying that for a while. Philly makes sense for obvious reasons, but they're pretty set at RB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fan in San Diego Posted August 31, 2019 Share Posted August 31, 2019 I still feel bad about this cut even though my logical part understands it. Who are the top 3 RB's now Singletary, Gore, ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LSHMEAB Posted August 31, 2019 Share Posted August 31, 2019 59 minutes ago, Buffalo03 said: The thing I don't like about this move is that I'm not entirely convinced that Singletary is ready as of right now If he's not ready now...that's a problem. The only legit concern with a rookie back is pass blocking and Singletary doesn't appear to be a liability there. If he can play, he can play right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted August 31, 2019 Share Posted August 31, 2019 4 hours ago, Elite Poster said: If Sanoris freaking Perry makes the team, they truly are the "we started Peterman and still think it was correct" guys. Jesus your takes are bad....just....every single time Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fan in San Diego Posted August 31, 2019 Share Posted August 31, 2019 1 minute ago, LSHMEAB said: If he's not ready now...that's a problem. The only legit concern with a rookie back is pass blocking and Singletary doesn't appear to be a liability there. If he can play, he can play right now. I think Singletary is ready. Who is #3, the cliff gets steep at #3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoBills808 Posted August 31, 2019 Share Posted August 31, 2019 2 minutes ago, Fan in San Diego said: I still feel bad about this cut even though my logical part understands it. Who are the top 3 RB's now Singletary, Gore, ? Yeldon I'm guessing, and when you look at it from a $$$/production standpoint it probably makes sense Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted August 31, 2019 Share Posted August 31, 2019 3 minutes ago, Fan in San Diego said: I still feel bad about this cut even though my logical part understands it. Who are the top 3 RB's now Singletary, Gore, ? Yeldon? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo03 Posted August 31, 2019 Share Posted August 31, 2019 1 minute ago, LSHMEAB said: If he's not ready now...that's a problem. The only legit concern with a rookie back is pass blocking and Singletary doesn't appear to be a liability there. If he can play, he can play right now. I just don't think he is ready for lead back duties as of right now. I think he was more than ready to handle the role that we seen him have in preseason for this season. You're basically implying that it's a concern for what? He's a 3rd round rookie. It doesn't mean he's never gonna be ready. It just means I don't believe that he can handle lead back duties right now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reed83HOF Posted August 31, 2019 Share Posted August 31, 2019 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XABI64 Posted August 31, 2019 Share Posted August 31, 2019 Beane looks like a fool here. nothing new 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rc2catch Posted August 31, 2019 Share Posted August 31, 2019 I thought they’d keep him, but I am extremely happy I don’t have to watch him taking multiple losses dancing all over the place hoping to break a big one. He was always a dancer and homerun hitter but with Allen at quarterback I would rather see Gore get 3 and make it 2nd and 7 than McCoy get -3 and seeing 2nd and 13. This was an impactful move on first downs for the majority of the possessions this season 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SloanBillsFan Posted August 31, 2019 Share Posted August 31, 2019 On 8/24/2019 at 9:05 AM, Steptide said: I found it a little interesting that Singletary didn't play much last night. Can't imagine he's going anywhere. I'm 99% sure shady won't be here in a week. Who are you, the Incredible Erskine?!? Man did you ever call it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lurker Posted August 31, 2019 Share Posted August 31, 2019 Just now, XABI64 said: Beane looks like a fool here. nothing new Come on LeSean, it's time to move on... 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted August 31, 2019 Share Posted August 31, 2019 Thanks to Shady for everything he has done for us. I thought McCoy looked better this offseason....but there were things here and there you saw some things that had cause for concern......like when he would reverse field and defensive players would catch up to him......turning the corner and not quite getting there.....etc etc etc You see it....and you are like "well Shady is still good enough....and he is backed up by Gore" Well...when the rubber meets the road....and you look at: - THe amount of money he was getting paid - His age - Singletary.....who ha looked GREAT in pre season......waiting in the wings Its one of those tough decisions that had to be made.....the things I like on Singletary that made this a little easier - He understands and can execute blitz pick up concepts - He can actually catch the ball 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoBills808 Posted August 31, 2019 Share Posted August 31, 2019 7 minutes ago, XABI64 said: Beane looks like a fool here. nothing new No, he looks like a GM going out of his way to throw McCoy a bone and not have to say there wasn’t any interest in a 31 y/o RB making too much $$ for production. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Barbarian Posted August 31, 2019 Share Posted August 31, 2019 Are you friggin kidding me!! We can draft picks for bums but not Shady!? we should have traded him when McDermott got here and got something in return, as i said back then. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LSHMEAB Posted August 31, 2019 Share Posted August 31, 2019 7 minutes ago, Buffalo03 said: I just don't think he is ready for lead back duties as of right now. I think he was more than ready to handle the role that we seen him have in preseason for this season. You're basically implying that it's a concern for what? He's a 3rd round rookie. It doesn't mean he's never gonna be ready. It just means I don't believe that he can handle lead back duties right now It's a concern if he's not ready to be a semi-major contributor. 3rd round RB's come with higher expectations than say, a QB, DE, or LT. Those are premium positions and RB has become more dependent on scheme and much easier to plug and play late round picks/UDFA's. So yes, I will personally be concerned with his prospects if he doesn't produce immediately. Gore is more than capable of making something happen with 15 or so touches a game. Yeldon can at least play in this league. It's not like we're gonna be giving him 30 touches a game and expect 1300 yards. As far as RB's go, I actually WOULD say that we'll find out if he can play very quickly. Couple games to acclimate to the speed of the game and he'll be prepared to show what he can do in this league. Examples of RB's who take time to develop are few and far between. 3 minutes ago, Buffalo Barbarian said: Are you friggin kidding me!! We can draft picks for bums but not Shady!? we should have traded him when McDermott got here and got something in return, as i said back then. In addition to Shady's worth or lack thereof, that tells you what kind of premium the league in general places on the position. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted August 31, 2019 Share Posted August 31, 2019 4 minutes ago, Buffalo Barbarian said: Are you friggin kidding me!! We can draft picks for bums but not Shady!? we should have traded him when McDermott got here and got something in return, as i said back then. Water under the bridge....and we dont actually know what was being offered...he did have the huge contract 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted August 31, 2019 Share Posted August 31, 2019 5 minutes ago, Buffalo Barbarian said: Are you friggin kidding me!! We can draft picks for bums but not Shady!? we should have traded him when McDermott got here and got something in return, as i said back then. Because the bums made bum money. No one wanted to trade for a 31 year old RB at his non-bum salary. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhoTom Posted August 31, 2019 Share Posted August 31, 2019 13 minutes ago, Lurker said: Come on LeSean, it's time to move on... LeSean is more mature than that guy. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoBills808 Posted August 31, 2019 Share Posted August 31, 2019 1 minute ago, Royale with Cheese said: Because the bums made bum money. No one wanted to trade for a 31 year old RB at his non-bum salary. Are you going to be ok? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted August 31, 2019 Share Posted August 31, 2019 Just now, GoBills808 said: Are you going to be ok? Was I too mean to Teller and Bodine? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Barbarian Posted August 31, 2019 Share Posted August 31, 2019 1 minute ago, John from Riverside said: Water under the bridge....and we dont actually know what was being offered...he did have the huge contract i would have traded him tyrod and not used a ton of great draft capital for Allen and Edmunds. Yes i know its under the bridge but i still hate it. We will be great under this leadership , this i believe for sure. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo03 Posted August 31, 2019 Share Posted August 31, 2019 3 minutes ago, LSHMEAB said: It's a concern if he's not ready to be a semi-major contributor. 3rd round RB's come with higher expectations than say, a QB, DE, or LT. Those are premium positions and RB has become more dependent on scheme and much easier to plug and play late round picks/UDFA's. So yes, I will personally be concerned with his prospects if he doesn't produce immediately. Gore is more than capable of making something happen with 15 or so touches a game. Yeldon can at least play in this league. It's not like we're gonna be giving him 30 touches a game and expect 1300 yards. As far as RB's go, I actually WOULD say that we'll find out if he can play very quickly. Couple games to acclimate to the speed of the game and he'll be prepared to show what he can do in this league. Examples of RB's who take time to develop are few and far between. In addition to Shady's worth or lack thereof, that tells you what kind of premium the league in general places on the position. There's a difference in being a big contributor and being the lead back. I think he was more than ready to be the a major contributor for this offense just not the top dog in the backfield and taking 20-25 carries a game. Right now, I see him as a 10-15 "touch" a game guy. I think now it's maybe a small concern because obviously we have no choice with Shady gone but it's not a big concern if he was still here. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Barbarian Posted August 31, 2019 Share Posted August 31, 2019 3 minutes ago, Royale with Cheese said: Because the bums made bum money. No one wanted to trade for a 31 year old RB at his non-bum salary. He was 29 then and i would have ate his contract to get the deal done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoBills808 Posted August 31, 2019 Share Posted August 31, 2019 2 minutes ago, Royale with Cheese said: Was I too mean to Teller and Bodine? Yes and now McCoy is gone too. You are ruining this team Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted August 31, 2019 Share Posted August 31, 2019 1 minute ago, Buffalo Barbarian said: i would have traded him tyrod and not used a ton of great draft capital for Allen and Edmunds. Yes i know its under the bridge but i still hate it. We will be great under this leadership , this i believe for sure. As long as we get there sir....:) I personally have no problem with the draft capital that was given up for Josh Allen and Edmunds.....Edmunds looks fantastic and Josh Allen as through the roof potential....your taking a chance on greatness in a "QB draft" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted August 31, 2019 Share Posted August 31, 2019 Just now, Buffalo Barbarian said: He was 29 then and i would have ate his contract to get the deal done. He still had value to us back then. It’s different now. We could have gotten about a 4th for him....you don’t trade your bell cow back after we had a revolving door of back ups. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chandler#81 Posted August 31, 2019 Share Posted August 31, 2019 22 minutes ago, XABI64 said: Beane looks like a fool here. nothing new Great final post! A Classic! It’ll go down in the annuls. Thank you for your contributions. We’re letting you go now so you can hook up with another team in time for the start of the season. Good Luck! 1 5 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Barbarian Posted August 31, 2019 Share Posted August 31, 2019 Just now, John from Riverside said: As long as we get there sir....:) I personally have no problem with the draft capital that was given up for Josh Allen and Edmunds.....Edmunds looks fantastic and Josh Allen as through the roof potential....your taking a chance on greatness in a "QB draft" yes but could imagine the players we would have on this team if we had all of those 6 picks in the first three rounds Plus the picks we would have gotten for shady and taylor. 2 minutes ago, Royale with Cheese said: He still had value to us back then. It’s different now. We could have gotten about a 4th for him....you don’t trade your bell cow back after we had a revolving door of back ups. Rbs are easy to replace wouldn't have been a problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marv's Neighbor Posted August 31, 2019 Share Posted August 31, 2019 I had a strong feeling they were playing him in the last two preseason games, just to show that he still had it, if any other teams may want him. Hard to believe they had to resort to cutting him.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CodeMonkey Posted August 31, 2019 Share Posted August 31, 2019 (edited) Likely no other GM wanted Shady's contract. Now that he's released he will get picked up by a team making a run this season when their RB gets hurt. He won't make nearly as much money, but could net him a ring. I wish him the best. Edited August 31, 2019 by CodeMonkey 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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