One of or both of Sweeney and Knox...

[whorlnut]

...will be studs. I really believe that by drafting two TEs and having Sweeney show something while Knox is out will pay huge dividends. These guys will push each other because they know that the other guy is breathing down their neck if they have a few bad plays. I’m really excited about the position for the first time in a VERY long time.

[Don Otreply]

Yup, like the youngsters at TE.

 

Go Bills!!!

[Maynard]

Yeah, I like what I’ve seen from Sweeney and Knox is supposed to be even more physically gifted! What is the word on Knox anyway?

[Alphadawg7]

9 minutes ago, whorlnut said:

...will be studs. I really believe that by drafting two TEs and having Sweeney show something while Knox is out will pay huge dividends. These guys will push each other because they know that the other guy is breathing down their neck if they have a few bad plays. I’m really excited about the position for the first time in a VERY long time.

 

Both 

[Warcodered]

2 minutes ago, Maynard said:

Yeah, I like what I’ve seen from Sweeney and Knox is supposed to be even more physically gifted! What is the word on Knox anyway?

 

20 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said:

[Maynard]

3 minutes ago, Warcodered said:

 

Great to know, thank you! 

 

[EmotionallyUnstable]

This is funny. 

 

Knox has been injured a majority of camp, yet based on his limited college statistics and media camp reports, he is going to be a stud.But don’t worry, hedge your bet by throwing in the 7th rd pick who has had a couple nice catches in preseason, and you can’t go wrong.

 

 

 

[Johnny Hammersticks]

Having Sweeney and Knox makes the Duke Williams vs McKenzie/McCloud decision easier, IMO.  We do have big guys other than Duke who can make contested catches in the red zone.

2 minutes ago, EmotionallyUnstable said:

This is funny. 

 

Knox has been injured a majority of camp, yet based on his limited college statistics and media camp reports, he is going to be a stud.But don’t worry, hedge your bet by throwing in the 7th rd pick who has had a couple nice catches in preseason, and you can’t go wrong.

 

 

 

 

If there wasn’t rampant speculation and unrealistic expectations to discuss, what the hell would we do around here in the offseason?

[The BLUES Brothers]

3 minutes ago, EmotionallyUnstable said:

This is funny. 

 

Knox has been injured a majority of camp, yet based on his limited college statistics and media camp reports, he is going to be a stud.But don’t worry, hedge your bet by throwing in the 7th rd pick who has had a couple nice catches in preseason, and you can’t go wrong.

 

 

 

 

 

Your user name and this post made me chuckle. 

 

There is no question a 7th rounder has a lot to prove but draft pundits spoke highly of Sweeny's hands/catching ability and sounds like veteran TE Lee Smith has taken Sweeny under his wing,.  Did you see Sweeny's over the shoulder catch Friday night?

[OldTimeAFLGuy]

9 minutes ago, Alphadawg7 said:

 

Both 

 

...sad that for YEARS the QB spot was THE #1 most neglected since the Kelly era....and I STILL think TE spot was a close #2.....BOTH are woefully unconscionable  WTF stains on OBD thinking.....BUT....McBeane and company, REAL football running the show have addressed BOTH positions in short order.....special thanks to Pegula for ignoring the "TBD Experts" clamoring for "...fire McBeane...fire McDermott..".....their "mea culpas" are forthcoming......crickets.......

[K-9]

Daboll has his Gronk and Hernandez to create matchup problems and dictate pace to exploit favorable sub packages. 

 

Now before anyone goes off, I’m not saying either is as good as Gronk; far from it. Just saying Daboll is discovering two new tools in his box,  he has seen up close how those tools may be used, and I won’t be the least bit surprised to see him utilize certain schemes as a result.

[EmotionallyUnstable]

Just now, Beef on Weck said:

 

 

Your user name and this post made me chuckle. 

 

There is no question a 7th rounder has a lot to prove but draft pundits spoke highly of Sweeny's hands/catching ability and sounds like veteran TE Lee Smith has taken Sweeny under his wing,.  Did you see Sweeny's over the shoulder catch Friday night?

 

Yes it was a really nice play.

 

No doubt he can get separation, despite his average measurables. I’m optimistic about our TE situation, actually, for the first time in years. Yet, we still have a glaring, unproven hole at the position. Bringing in a couple young players sparking with potential and coupling it with some feel-good stories and a few nice plays, isn’t enough to have me feeling that we’ve got “studs” at the position. 

2 minutes ago, H2o said:

 

 

I’m neither of those guys, but I was just behind them to their right about twenty minutes ago 

[ColoradoBills]

43 minutes ago, H2o said:

 

 

[whorlnut]

55 minutes ago, EmotionallyUnstable said:

This is funny. 

 

Knox has been injured a majority of camp, yet based on his limited college statistics and media camp reports, he is going to be a stud.But don’t worry, hedge your bet by throwing in the 7th rd pick who has had a couple nice catches in preseason, and you can’t go wrong.

 

 

 

Thanks for living up to your screen name...?

[EmotionallyUnstable]

10 minutes ago, whorlnut said:

Thanks for living up to your screen name...?

 

No worries, it comes natural to me! 

 

One thing we can agree on is that we’re optomistic regarding the position. One thing we vastly disagree on is that these potential players are studs. I mean, show some confidence in this prediction and narrow it down. If you feel strongly about it, which TE is going to be a stud, in your opinion. 

 

To me, Ed Oliver is going to be a stud. To put any TE on this roster in the same class is ridiculous. You're entitled to your thoughts and opinions, and no hard feelings over a disagreement. I just don't understand the confidence you have 

[Doc]

I wish Sweeney had more speed.  But he still looks like he can be a really good TE.

[Shaw66]

1 hour ago, Johnny Hammersticks said:

Having Sweeney and Knox makes the Duke Williams vs McKenzie/McCloud decision easier, IMO.  We do have big guys other than Duke who can make contested catches in the red zone.

 

I dont think one has much to with the other.  I think the receiver question will be about deep speed and special teams.  That's where Duke may have a disadvantage.  

 

You cant have too many receivers who can make contested catches in the red zone. 

[Johnny Hammersticks]

20 minutes ago, Shaw66 said:

I dont think one has much to with the other.  I think the receiver question will be about deep speed and special teams.  That's where Duke may have a disadvantage.  

 

You cant have too many receivers who can make contested catches in the red zone. 

 

Duke just doesn’t seem to fit in with what they’re doing on offense.  If the idea is to keep Duke on the roster to be that red zone “go up and get it” guy, I think we have other players that can fit that need.

 

Duke fits into the WR room like a turd in a punch bowl.  He seems to have good hands, but ultimately he’s slow, not a great route runner, and isn’t great at creating separation.

 

JMO

 

I think they keep McKenzie over DJ and Ray Ray.

37 minutes ago, EmotionallyUnstable said:

 

No worries, it comes natural to me! 

 

One thing we can agree on is that we’re optomistic regarding the position. One thing we vastly disagree on is that these potential players are studs. I mean, show some confidence in this prediction and narrow it down. If you feel strongly about it, which TE is going to be a stud, in your opinion. 

 

To me, Ed Oliver is going to be a stud. To put any TE on this roster in the same class is ridiculous. You're entitled to your thoughts and opinions, and no hard feelings over a disagreement. I just don't understand the confidence you have 

 

So, in other words.   Let’s get excited, but not too excited, eh?

 

I already had Knox and Sweeney going to the HOF.  Bummer ?

[Gugny]

Bofe.

[Augie]

1 hour ago, Beef on Weck said:

 

 

Your user name and this post made me chuckle. 

 

There is no question a 7th rounder has a lot to prove but draft pundits spoke highly of Sweeny's hands/catching ability and sounds like veteran TE Lee Smith has taken Sweeny under his wing,.  Did you see Sweeny's over the shoulder catch Friday night?

 

He certainly looked very fluid and natural. This team has a LOT of guys I want to see more of. Much more than previous years....and that’s a very good thing! 

[EmotionallyUnstable]

3 minutes ago, Johnny Hammersticks said:

 

Duke just doesn’t seem to fit in with what they’re doing on offense.  If the idea is to keep Duke on the roster to be that red zone “go up and get it” guy, I think we have other players that can fit that need.

 

Duke fits into the WR room like a turd in a punch bowl.  He seems to have good hands, but ultimately he’s slow, not a great route runner, and isn’t great at creating separation.

 

JMO

 

I think they keep McKenzie over DJ and Ray Ray.

 

So, in other words.   Let’s get excited, but not too excited, eh?

 

I already had Knox and Sweeney going to the HOF.  Bummer ?

 

Yes, 100. I ain't going to lie, def said I was going to buy a Sweeney HOF jersey. But if there is one thing we do well (or me at least), it's getting overly excited for a usually disappointing reason 

[{::'KayCeeS::}]

Did you notice Sweeney last game?  When he caught the second pass and he hit the ground and the ball popped out and he got it back?  He was PISSED that it wasn't a totally clean catch.  That's the best sign I can think of, as far as 7th round rooks go.

[DaBillsFanSince1973]

 

[Mr. WEO]

Sweeney was ready to get too it and is making the most his preseason.

 

Knox, despite his rep as some sort workout freak in the gym, got "a hammy" 3 days into camp and hasn't played since.  He has hardly any production in college--far less than Sweeney.   Time Knox spent in the Red Zone in college was while walking back to the locker room after each half.

 

If it comes down to one, Sweeney wins.

[VW82]

I could see us rolling with Smith, Knox, and Sweeney to start the season. Croom has two games to take his spot back. Either way, that third guy is likely getting cut when Kroft comes back from PUP. 

Edited August 18, 2019 by VW82

[Victory Formation]

1 hour ago, EmotionallyUnstable said:

This is funny. 

 

Knox has been injured a majority of camp, yet based on his limited college statistics and media camp reports, he is going to be a stud.But don’t worry, hedge your bet by throwing in the 7th rd pick who has had a couple nice catches in preseason, and you can’t go wrong.

 

 

 

Knox actually had a fairly underwhelming college career, but has all the measurable of a 1st round pick. Sweeney actually produced more in college.

[Ethan in Cleveland]

1 hour ago, K-9 said:

Daboll has his Gronk and Hernandez to create matchup problems and dictate pace to exploit favorable sub packages. 

 

Now before anyone goes off, I’m not saying either is as good as Gronk; far from it. Just saying Daboll is discovering two new tools in his box,  he has seen up close how those tools may be used, and I won’t be the least bit surprised to see him utilize certain schemes as a result.

Can you clarify which of the rookie Bills TEs is a future Hall of Fame player?

[Johnny Hammersticks]

4 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said:

Sweeney was ready to get too it and is making the most his preseason.

 

Knox, despite his rep as some sort workout freak in the gym, got "a hammy" 3 days into camp and hasn't played since.  He has hardly any production in college--far less than Sweeney.   Time Knox spent in the Red Zone in college was while walking back to the locker room after each half.

 

If it comes down to one, Sweeney wins.

 

Knox is making the 53 dude.  They traded up into the 3rd round to get him.  No way he doesn’t make the team.

 

I could see Lee Smith being the odd man out.

[Ethan in Cleveland]

6 minutes ago, VW82 said:

I could see us rolling with Smith, Knox, and Sweeney to start the season. Croom has two games to take his spot back. Either way, that third guy is likely getting cut when Kroft comes back from PUP. 

I would rather keep 4 TE and get rid of DiMarco. 

[Mr. WEO]

1 minute ago, Johnny Hammersticks said:

 

Knox is making the 53 dude.  They traded up into the 3rd round to get him.  No way he doesn’t make the team.

 

I could see Lee Smith being the odd man out.

 

He's my surprise cut.

 

But yeah, moving up to get Knox seems like a bit of a head scratcher.  So little to go on, it seems.  Ol Miss hardly used him.

[Johnny Hammersticks]

1 minute ago, Ethan in Portland said:

I would rather keep 4 TE and get rid of DiMarco. 

 

Me too.  But DiMarco had a sweet block on the Shady TD though.  Thing of beauty.

 

My stance on FBs in the modern day NFL....unless they’re legit pass catchers, I really don’t see the need.

[CaptnCoke11]

Sweeney, Knox, Croom, Smith, Kroft(PUP)

Edited August 18, 2019 by CaptnCoke11

[Ethan in Cleveland]

14 minutes ago, Johnny Hammersticks said:

 

Me too.  But DiMarco had a sweet block on the Shady TD though.  Thing of beauty.

 

My stance on FBs in the modern day NFL....unless they’re legit pass catchers, I really don’t see the need.

For me I keep either DiMarco or Smith, not both. Like someone else posted, Lee Smith may be surprise cut especially if Croom is able to play and DiMarco keeps up decent play. I still hate the idea of a FB in 2019 but I get he does other things. They have enough OL swing tackles to line up in heavy sets and report as eligible.  

[K-9]

18 minutes ago, Ethan in Portland said:

Can you clarify which of the rookie Bills TEs is a future Hall of Fame player?

Ah, there it is. What part of, “Now before anyone goes off, I’m not saying either is as good as Gronk; far from it,” was hard to understand? 

 

My post was offered in a far larger context than a mere comparison between the talent levels of Gronk and anyone on our roster. It was about Daboll more than anything else.

[Johnny Hammersticks]

2 minutes ago, K-9 said:

Ah, there it is. What part of, “Now before anyone goes off, I’m not saying either is as good as Gronk; far from it,” was hard to understand? 

 

My post was offered in a far larger context than a mere comparison between the talent levels of Gronk and anyone on our roster. It was about Daboll more than anything else.

 

Anyone with half a brain understood what you were trying to convey.

[HappyDays]

27 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said:

But yeah, moving up to get Knox seems like a bit of a head scratcher.  So little to go on, it seems.  Ol Miss hardly used him.

 

Knox was looking good in OTAs and early camp and appeared to have a good connection going with Allen. His athletic traits are outstanding and this regime will always take a chance on a hard working athletic specimen. I hope he is a full participant soon so they can rebuild that connection.

[BobbyC81]

2 hours ago, K-9 said:

Daboll has his Gronk and Hernandez to create matchup problems and dictate pace to exploit favorable sub packages. 

 

Now before anyone goes off, I’m not saying either is as good as Gronk; far from it. Just saying Daboll is discovering two new tools in his box,  he has seen up close how those tools may be used, and I won’t be the least bit surprised to see him utilize certain schemes as a result.

 

And Beasley in the Edelman/Walker role. ?

[K-9]

1 minute ago, ColeB said:

 

And Beasley in the Edelman/Walker role. ?

Absolutely. We’ve seen that manifest throughout camp and in the two preseason games. 

[Mr. WEO]

6 minutes ago, HappyDays said:

 

Knox was looking good in OTAs and early camp and appeared to have a good connection going with Allen. His athletic traits are outstanding and this regime will always take a chance on a hard working athletic specimen. I hope he is a full participant soon so they can rebuild that connection.

 

 

That's all great but still a stretch at 3rd.

 

Sweeney is same size and is working well right now. No connection to rebuild. 

[Augie]

22 minutes ago, K-9 said:

Ah, there it is. What part of, “Now before anyone goes off, I’m not saying either is as good as Gronk; far from it,” was hard to understand? 

 

My post was offered in a far larger context than a mere comparison between the talent levels of Gronk and anyone on our roster. It was about Daboll more than anything else.

 

Hey, you did everything you could. I don’t know what more I can tell you.....