OldTimeAFLGuy Posted July 4, 2019 Share Posted July 4, 2019 3 hours ago, ExiledInIllinois said: Wow! Was your son wearing a seatbelt? ...unfortunately no, resulting in ejection through the windshield........debris field was 150 ft by 150 ft.....I knew which way he would have traveled and came upon the site....went under the caution tape to look for personal belongings and valuables....volunteer firefighter charged me , screaming to "get the hell outside the tape"......went after him and was restrained by 3 deputies who understood my rage when I said, "it is my son"........... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Posted July 4, 2019 Share Posted July 4, 2019 1 hour ago, MacGyver said: It is definitely possible. There was a kid in Iowa iirc, cut both his arms off above the elbow on a piece of farm equipment. He was alone, so he ran to the house and somehow called 911 with is face, this was before cell phones. They reattached both arms. I don't think he has much usage of them, but he has his arms. Found the story, it was North Dakota not Iowa: https://people.com/archive/too-tough-to-die-vol-37-no-4/ Thanks for the link. Pretty amazing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PetermansRedemption Posted July 4, 2019 Share Posted July 4, 2019 (edited) 7 hours ago, Bangarang said: I’ve never heard of paramedics amputating anything at the scene of an accident. I don’t believe thats in the scope of standard practice of any EMS agency in the country. If anything, it was a “SMART” team, a team of doctors that respond to serious accidents in a fly car (typically a Chevy Tahoe). They obviously have the medical scope to do anything necessary. The only exception I could see is, as others have mentioned, it was literally dangling by a flap of skin and needed to be removed to get him from the vehicle. Edited July 4, 2019 by Bills2ref Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Posted July 4, 2019 Share Posted July 4, 2019 Feel bad for this young man. He was hoping to make the team after being a seventh round draft pick and cut from Carolina. Doubt he'll be able to have full use of his arm, let alone play again, if they can re-attach the arm. I'm surprised an EMT has the pain numbing drugs and equipment to remove an arm on site. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
/dev/null Posted July 4, 2019 Share Posted July 4, 2019 Yikes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vorpma Posted July 4, 2019 Share Posted July 4, 2019 2 hours ago, Boca BIlls said: Hope it wasn't his drinking arm. (In a few days no one will care one bit about this story. So those people who are righteous right now will be back to forgetting bad stuff happens all the time. Get angry at what I say now but you will forget and make a joke in the same manner b.c in the end if we felt bad over every single thing that happened to every human in the world, this world would commit suicide.) Get off your moral high horse! Sorry throwing a big ass BS flag on this; not funny and pretty childish, no not even childish - moronic! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buddy Hix Posted July 5, 2019 Share Posted July 5, 2019 10 hours ago, OldTimeAFLGuy said: ....July 5, 2009.......had the ribs and chicken on the grill...my son had just helped me clean the pool....said he had to run over to a girl's house and would be back in 20 minutes.....my late wife's cell rang and it was the County Sheriff....."your son was involved in a serious accident and is en route to the hospital.......we're not sure if he will survive"......a call a parent NEVER wants...t-boned by a drunk 19 year old who drank through the day and night on the 4th into the 5th (he died a day later)....my son's Ford Explorer barrel rolled for 75 feet, ending up against a tree, stopping it from hitting a house with him ejected through the windshield....somehow after 80+ stitches and staples, broken femur, 4 broken ribs, collapsed lung and two broken hips, all of which required more surgical hardware than Home Depot could ever stock, we did make it.....today he is a 245 lb monster....PLEASE, PLEASE fellow TBD brethren, BE SAFE this holiday weekend..... I thought your post was ending a different way. This must still be a reflective holiday, hope your family is enjoying it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocket94 Posted July 5, 2019 Share Posted July 5, 2019 Best wishes to this young man. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TigerJ Posted July 5, 2019 Share Posted July 5, 2019 10 hours ago, keepthefaith said: They may have deemed it necessary to remove him from the vehicle. This is what I heard. 4 hours ago, Happy Gilmore said: Is that even possible? I thought once a limb was removed, it is gone for good. It can be if a checklist of conditions are met, including time limits and the condition of the limb. If they had to remove the arm to get him out of the wreck, his arm might not have been in great condition anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4merper4mer Posted July 5, 2019 Share Posted July 5, 2019 5 hours ago, Boca BIlls said: Hope it wasn't his drinking arm. (In a few days no one will care one bit about this story. So those people who are righteous right now will be back to forgetting bad stuff happens all the time. Get angry at what I say now but you will forget and make a joke in the same manner b.c in the end if we felt bad over every single thing that happened to every human in the world, this world would commit suicide.) Get off your moral high horse! Get off your high horse about people being on their high horse. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punching Bag Posted July 5, 2019 Share Posted July 5, 2019 11 hours ago, keepthefaith said: They may have deemed it necessary to remove him from the vehicle. If the car is in danger of going up in flames it is one circumstance which they will get doctor's permission and direction to do it. There are others. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted July 5, 2019 Share Posted July 5, 2019 (edited) 11 hours ago, Bangarang said: I’ve never heard of paramedics amputating anything at the scene of an accident. If they have to do it to save a life.... or you meant other people on the scene are more likely to remove a trapped arm or leg??? this is awful, made kind of worse by an article telling me that losing his arm might end his pro football career.... you think? Edited July 5, 2019 by row_33 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrags Posted July 5, 2019 Share Posted July 5, 2019 5 hours ago, Happy Gilmore said: Is that even possible? I thought once a limb was removed, it is gone for good. Naw. It’s like a lizards tail tho. If it’s amputated correctly and cut at a 45* angle, it will grow back 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted July 5, 2019 Share Posted July 5, 2019 (edited) 2 minutes ago, mrags said: Naw. It’s like a lizards tail tho. If it’s amputated correctly and cut at a 45* angle, it will grow back Like the House episode where they were all under a building threatening to collapse any second? My latent claustrophobia was triggered. Or whatever that fear is of being trapped in a small sliver of space and then a building falls on you Edited July 5, 2019 by row_33 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punching Bag Posted July 5, 2019 Share Posted July 5, 2019 5 hours ago, MacGyver said: It is definitely possible. There was a kid in Iowa iirc, cut both his arms off above the elbow on a piece of farm equipment. He was alone, so he ran to the house and somehow called 911 with is face, this was before cell phones. They reattached both arms. I don't think he has much usage of them, but he has his arms. Found the story, it was North Dakota not Iowa: https://people.com/archive/too-tough-to-die-vol-37-no-4/ Followup: 'The kid in the bathtub': Twenty years later https://bismarcktribune.com/news/state-and-regional/the-kid-in-the-bathtub-twenty-years-later/article_84f9bf0c-54d8-11e1-9123-0019bb2963f4.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted July 5, 2019 Share Posted July 5, 2019 11 hours ago, keepthefaith said: They may have deemed it necessary to remove him from the vehicle. That, and the limb was in bad shape, and he was in bad shape (i.e. likely to die without immediate attention.) If he were just pinned and stable, they'd probably work to get his arm freed. Doesn't happen often, maybe once a year nationwide. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted July 5, 2019 Share Posted July 5, 2019 9 minutes ago, DC Tom said: That, and the limb was in bad shape, and he was in bad shape (i.e. likely to die without immediate attention.) If he were just pinned and stable, they'd probably work to get his arm freed. Doesn't happen often, maybe once a year nationwide. Yup, it’s escaping death by a hair’s breath to be in that bad a situation and unable to get out of there Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bangarang Posted July 5, 2019 Share Posted July 5, 2019 2 hours ago, row_33 said: If they have to do it to save a life.... or you meant other people on the scene are more likely to remove a trapped arm or leg??? this is awful, made kind of worse by an article telling me that losing his arm might end his pro football career.... you think? Its just not something that I would assume they have the level of training to perform. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bookie Man Posted July 5, 2019 Share Posted July 5, 2019 Prayers for the young man. Any possibility he could play with a prosthetic arm? If there were any position that would have a better chance to do so, I would guess it would be DL. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimmy10 Posted July 5, 2019 Share Posted July 5, 2019 9 hours ago, Boca BIlls said: Hope it wasn't his drinking arm. (In a few days no one will care one bit about this story. So those people who are righteous right now will be back to forgetting bad stuff happens all the time. Get angry at what I say now but you will forget and make a joke in the same manner b.c in the end if we felt bad over every single thing that happened to every human in the world, this world would commit suicide.) Get off your moral high horse! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
machine gun kelly Posted July 5, 2019 Share Posted July 5, 2019 I don’t know anything about him, but sorry to read about this story. For the Old Time, I’m sorry you went through that, but glad you’re boy is ok. This is one of the reasons I try and stay off the road on the typical holidays where people drink too much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBill Posted July 5, 2019 Share Posted July 5, 2019 19 hours ago, OldTimeAFLGuy said: ....July 5, 2009.......had the ribs and chicken on the grill...my son had just helped me clean the pool....said he had to run over to a girl's house and would be back in 20 minutes.....my late wife's cell rang and it was the County Sheriff....."your son was involved in a serious accident and is en route to the hospital.......we're not sure if he will survive"......a call a parent NEVER wants...t-boned by a drunk 19 year old who drank through the day and night on the 4th into the 5th (he died a day later)....my son's Ford Explorer barrel rolled for 75 feet, ending up against a tree, stopping it from hitting a house with him ejected through the windshield....somehow after 80+ stitches and staples, broken femur, 4 broken ribs, collapsed lung and two broken hips, all of which required more surgical hardware than Home Depot could ever stock, we did make it.....today he is a 245 lb monster....PLEASE, PLEASE fellow TBD brethren, BE SAFE this holiday weekend..... AFLG - glad to know your son came through that but wow.... thank you for sharing. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringBackFergy Posted July 5, 2019 Share Posted July 5, 2019 Sad to hear he lost his arm but glad he is alive. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Hindsight Posted July 5, 2019 Share Posted July 5, 2019 Just awful. Stories like this always hit me hard. I cant even imagine how hard it would be to wake up and be missing a limb. Just terrible Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seasons1992 Posted July 5, 2019 Share Posted July 5, 2019 On 7/4/2019 at 11:46 AM, DC Tom said: https://www.foxnews.com/sports/dolphins-kendrick-norton-car-crash Gee, ya think? I had no idea that www.foxnews.com/sports was a thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted July 5, 2019 Share Posted July 5, 2019 17 hours ago, Buddy Hix said: I thought your post was ending a different way. This must still be a reflective holiday, hope your family is enjoying it. ...I anguished over posting this, fearing some would think I hijacked the thread.......but I merely wanted to share a real life, near tragic experience occurring on a holiday weekend which is to be celebratory occasion.....safety of TBD brethren was well worth the risk for me.... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punching Bag Posted July 5, 2019 Share Posted July 5, 2019 2 hours ago, Seasons1992 said: I had no idea that www.foxnews.com/sports was a thing. Fox News Sports seems to just be a video site now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobbRiddick Posted July 5, 2019 Share Posted July 5, 2019 Terrible story. Even worse when the victim is not at fault in any way. It'll never make up for the loss of an arm or his career but I hope he gets a ***** load of insurance money so he never has to worry about money ever again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted July 5, 2019 Share Posted July 5, 2019 5 minutes ago, Limeaid said: Fox News Sports seems to just be a video site now. ...exactly and it sucks IMO....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted July 5, 2019 Share Posted July 5, 2019 9 hours ago, machine gun kelly said: I don’t know anything about him, but sorry to read about this story. For the Old Time, I’m sorry you went through that, but glad you’re boy is ok. This is one of the reasons I try and stay off the road on the typical holidays where people drink too much. I was driving home one New Year’s Eve after a night out with my wife, her mother and her uncle. It was just after midnight and I had had ZERO to drink. I was driving, and it was NYE, so.... Sure enough, we come upon a DUI checkpoint and I finally get to the front of the line. The cop asks me where I’m going. Home, I say. What’s your address? I tell him (literally about 3 minutes away). He waves me through and I say “wait, that’s it?” He says “see that parking lot?” and points to a large appliance store with a big lot FULL of cars. He says “that lot is full with people who couldn’t do what you just did.” Hard to believe ANY of us got home that night! I was hesitant to go to a friends yesterday for a cookout, even knowing my wife wouldn’t drink (I drank for both of us!). It was the other fools that concerned me. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K-9 Posted July 5, 2019 Share Posted July 5, 2019 14 hours ago, R Y G A R said: Prayers for the young man. Any possibility he could play with a prosthetic arm? If there were any position that would have a better chance to do so, I would guess it would be DL. As much as I’d like to believe it and see it, I really doubt it. Leverage is so important to winning battles and hands and arms are so important to leverage, that I just can’t see a prosthetic offering the same advantages of a real arm. That said, prosthetic technology is evolving so rapidly that I’d never say never. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted July 5, 2019 Share Posted July 5, 2019 40 minutes ago, K-9 said: As much as I’d like to believe it and see it, I really doubt it. Leverage is so important to winning battles and hands and arms are so important to leverage, that I just can’t see a prosthetic offering the same advantages of a real arm. That said, prosthetic technology is evolving so rapidly that I’d never say never. it's difficult enough with two fully functioning arms built to maximum strength and leverage and if you were competing for a roster spot heading into camp the odds weren't the best for you to begin with Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaBillsFanSince1973 Posted July 5, 2019 Share Posted July 5, 2019 2 hours ago, RobbRiddick said: Terrible story. Even worse when the victim is not at fault in any way. It'll never make up for the loss of an arm or his career but I hope he gets a ***** load of insurance money so he never has to worry about money ever again. so far, no charges. Florida Highway Patrol says Norton’s 2017 Ford F250 was heading west on the Dolphin Expressway (State Road 836) around 1:18 a.m. near the Palmetto Expressway (State Road 826) intersection when it hit a concrete barrier. The truck flipped and, when it stopped, was on its roof. Norton’s left arm suffered the injury. Miami Beach Police said two off-duty officers and an emergency medical technician were able to give “life-saving aid” until Miami-Dade Fire Rescue could arrive. FHP also said a Maserati was involved, but driver Jessie Pena was uninjured. The crash investigation report isn’t available yet. A family friend of Norton’s said his vehicle got cut off before it flipped link if not his fault he could come in to good amount but if he was at fault, depending on coverage which I'm sure he was able to afford full. it would seem that would only cover damage and medical costs? he's fortunate to be alive, had they not amputated he likely would of bled to death. it will be a tough hill to climb, both mentally and physically for the young man. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fansince88 Posted July 6, 2019 Share Posted July 6, 2019 On 7/4/2019 at 11:17 AM, OldTimeAFLGuy said: ....July 5, 2009.......had the ribs and chicken on the grill...my son had just helped me clean the pool....said he had to run over to a girl's house and would be back in 20 minutes.....my late wife's cell rang and it was the County Sheriff....."your son was involved in a serious accident and is en route to the hospital.......we're not sure if he will survive"......a call a parent NEVER wants...t-boned by a drunk 19 year old who drank through the day and night on the 4th into the 5th (he died a day later)....my son's Ford Explorer barrel rolled for 75 feet, ending up against a tree, stopping it from hitting a house with him ejected through the windshield....somehow after 80+ stitches and staples, broken femur, 4 broken ribs, collapsed lung and two broken hips, all of which required more surgical hardware than Home Depot could ever stock, we did make it.....today he is a 245 lb monster....PLEASE, PLEASE fellow TBD brethren, BE SAFE this holiday weekend..... Glad your story ended well. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fansince88 Posted July 6, 2019 Share Posted July 6, 2019 16 hours ago, Augie said: I was driving home one New Year’s Eve after a night out with my wife, her mother and her uncle. It was just after midnight and I had had ZERO to drink. I was driving, and it was NYE, so.... Sure enough, we come upon a DUI checkpoint and I finally get to the front of the line. The cop asks me where I’m going. Home, I say. What’s your address? I tell him (literally about 3 minutes away). He waves me through and I say “wait, that’s it?” He says “see that parking lot?” and points to a large appliance store with a big lot FULL of cars. He says “that lot is full with people who couldn’t do what you just did.” Hard to believe ANY of us got home that night! I was hesitant to go to a friends yesterday for a cookout, even knowing my wife wouldn’t drink (I drank for both of us!). It was the other fools that concerned me. NYE is often called rookie night. With all the uber and lyft servisesthere is no reason to get behind the wheel. I have a nephew that has a disease that prevents him from touching alcohol. In fact he has a constant dry mouth that causes him to be hard to understand. That all said, many people in his town have him on speed dial. Many of them take advantage of his kindness but he gives rides home at 3 am if they call him. I say that to say this. Be available people. That call is better then the one to tell you a loved one is dead. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woodman19 Posted July 6, 2019 Share Posted July 6, 2019 On 7/4/2019 at 4:34 PM, ALLEN1QB said: Too bad Tom Brady wasn't with him What a scummy post. All for the horrible crime of being good at a sport and beating up on an ineptly run franchise for the bulk of his career. 5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted July 6, 2019 Share Posted July 6, 2019 56 minutes ago, Woodman19 said: What a scummy post. All for the horrible crime of being good at a sport and beating up on an ineptly run franchise for the bulk of his career. ....ignorance is sadly bliss for some......I'm with you bro...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted July 6, 2019 Share Posted July 6, 2019 1 hour ago, Woodman19 said: What a scummy post. All for the horrible crime of being good at a sport and beating up on an ineptly run franchise for the bulk of his career. And cheating. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fansince88 Posted July 6, 2019 Share Posted July 6, 2019 1 hour ago, DC Tom said: And cheating. Yes, but even an old man sniping at people from a balcony wouldnt wouldn't wish that on anyone.....right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted July 6, 2019 Share Posted July 6, 2019 Just now, fansince88 said: Yes, but even an old man sniping at people from a balcony wouldnt wouldn't wish that on anyone.....right? I think the original poster meant "Too bad Tom Brady wasn't with him" in the sense that Mr. Bundchen could have laid hands on him or given him some magic water and healed him on the spot. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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