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1 minute ago, gobills1212 said:

Im not normally one of those people who will correct grammer etc, esp since i abbreviate as much as i do. I dont know why, but that particular mis-speak always makes me cringe lol. I cldnt resist!! ;)

 

It’s a WNY staple. I don’t have a single family member who doesn’t talk that way as did every person I graduated high school with. 

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6 hours ago, Warcodered said:

 

 

Despite my skepticism entering into the offseason about how he will fare against better competition in the WR room, I do sincerely hope he takes a step forward and proves he can be a long term good player for this team.  This was a good interview from him too.

 

I still do not think his 2nd year was good, and he has earned the critical comments with the drops and general lack of production in well over 70% of his career games.  But at the end of the day, he has a great opportunity to prove himself and I could care less about being right about a gut feeling I had in the offseason.  I want the best team on the field, and will be rooting for Zay to prove he is part of that best team all camp and preseason.  He has got a great work ethic and attitude and is the kind of guy you want to succeed.

 

That being said, it won't be easy.  Brown, Foster, Cole, and Duke will all be vying to significant minutes themselves, so it will be fun to watch and wish the kid all the best.  

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7 hours ago, John from Riverside said:

Robert Foster has it all....size....speed....he gets open

 

My concern with him last year was I felt like he didnt fight for 50/50 balls hard enough.....but by the midway point of the season (after Josh Allen got back from injury...after Foster was brought back up from the practice squad) I thought he had even overcame that.

 

I think John Brown and Robert Foster are going to terrorize defenses because Josh Allen can put that ball ANYWHERE and on a rope.....their vertical threat is very good....which is going to open up the running game underneath.

 

I feel that the bills are about to take off in a BIG way

It’s all set up John.  We didn’t sign big name playmakers but the playmakers we did sign excel at certain aspects.  Brown is a threat to go deep every play. As is Foster.  Both with big time speed.  They open up the underneath for Beasley,, the new TEs and a solid stable of RBs.  The OL looks to be so much more improved with the added talent and the firing of Castillo and addition of Johnson (who seems to be loved).  

 

Now we just need Josh to convert 3rd downs

and score TDs. 

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4 minutes ago, GunnerBill said:

 

Guards the opposite way around from what I might have expected but otherwise that is what I'd have predicted.

 

I'm gonna assume that for right now they are going to try all the LG's that they signed this off-season at RG to figure out who can man it best...TY has played some OG as well so maybe we see him in there too

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16 hours ago, BuffAlone said:

I said that to my ex wife...once. Turned out to not be a wise decision. Hey, it was my Honeymoon too?

 

 

Can I ask why you were discussing EJ Gaines on your Honeymoon - of course that was not a wise decision- LOL ? 

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11 hours ago, TPS said:

Interesting tidbit from Joe B that they are trying Shaq on the right side as Jerry's back up. That's the side he played at Clemson, so maybe he's more comfortable there. 

Yes always wondered about that. The first switch in Bills’ OTA to LDE in 2016 was when his shoulder became a concern. Maybe he was used to babying that shoulder coming from the other side.

 

The  main problem in 2016-2017 was that he was regarded as a starter and Jerry was well entrenched at RDE. Now that they did not pick up his option, there is no doubt that he is a backup. This maybe the change he needs. 

 

I didnt realize that Yarbrough had the opposite problem. He looked great in 2017 as Shaq’s Backup and not so well as Jerry’s backup.

 

So the switch makes great sense.

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11 minutes ago, IgotBILLStopay said:

Yes always wondered about that. The first switch in Bills’ OTA to LDE in 2016 was when his shoulder became a concern. Maybe he was used to babying that shoulder coming from the other side.

 

The  main problem in 2016-2017 was that he was regarded as a starter and Jerry was well entrenched at RDE. Now that they did not pick up his option, there is no doubt that he is a backup. This maybe the change he needs. 

 

I didnt realize that Yarbrough had the opposite problem. He looked great in 2017 as Shaq’s Backup and not so well as Jerry’s backup.

 

So the switch makes great sense.

Jerry led the DL in snap count last year. A better shaq could allow them to go a bit easier on him in his 30s...?

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Just now, Royale with Cheese said:

 

When do you see Ford sliding in with the 1's and where at?  Do you think he pushes Long early?

 

They have said quite clearly they want to see Ford at RT. I expect by the middle of camp if he is performing with the #2s that they start to work him in with the #1s. I expect Ty to start the first pre-season game RT but as long as Ford is coming along at the right rate I think they will get him out there with the 1st team in the 2nd or 3rd game.

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11 hours ago, gobills1212 said:

Im not normally one of those people who will correct grammer etc, esp since i abbreviate as much as i do. I dont know why, but that particular mis-speak always makes me cringe lol. I cldnt resist!! ;)

When you try to correct "grammer" it always backfires.

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1 hour ago, Tsaikotic said:

 

I'm gonna assume that for right now they are going to try all the LG's that they signed this off-season at RG to figure out who can man it best...TY has played some OG as well so maybe we see him in there too

 

There is another option Tsaik.... a bit Machiavellian but could it be that:

 

- they know Spain is a starter for them.

- they don't know yet whether Dawkins will hold his job at LT (thought clearly they want him to)

- if Dawkins isn't the starting LT he will be the starting LG

- therefore by making that the spot where you cycle through the guys competing for "other" guard job you make it that if at some point they decide to move Dawkins inside and put Ty at LT you are only messing up one guard spot, not two?

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4 minutes ago, GunnerBill said:

 

They have said quite clearly they want to see Ford at RT. I expect by the middle of camp if he is performing with the #2s that they start to work him in with the #1s. I expect Ty to start the first pre-season game RT but as long as Ford is coming along at the right rate I think they will get him out there with the 1st team in the 2nd or 3rd game.

 

How do you see it playing out game 1?

I don't know much about Ty other than it sounds like it's going to be tough to keep him off the field.  Maybe?

LT - Nsheke

LG - Dawkins

C - Morse

RG - Spain

RT - Ford

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2 hours ago, GunnerBill said:

 

Guards the opposite way around from what I might have expected but otherwise that is what I'd have predicted.

 

Same, and I'm really glad they have Long at G. I think he will crack the starting 5 there.

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3 minutes ago, Royale with Cheese said:

 

How do you see it playing out game 1?

I don't know much about Ty other than it sounds like it's going to be tough to keep him off the field.  Maybe?

LT - Nsheke

LG - Dawkins

C - Morse

RG - Spain

RT - Ford

I’m all for anyway the coaches decide who the 5 best are, but I really like this combo -if Dawkins buys into it. Having Spain & Morse on Cody’s left will be great for him and accelerate his maturity at RT. jmo

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12 minutes ago, GunnerBill said:

 

There is another option Tsaik.... a bit Machiavellian but could it be that:

 

- they know Spain is a starter for them.

- they don't know yet whether Dawkins will hold his job at LT (thought clearly they want him to)

- if Dawkins isn't the starting LT he will be the starting LG

- therefore by making that the spot where you cycle through the guys competing for "other" guard job you make it that if at some point they decide to move Dawkins inside and put Ty at LT you are only messing up one guard spot, not two?

 

I feel that this is exactly what they're doing, save for the idea that Spain is a definite starter. They may simply be trying to establish his positional flexibility since they're going to have serious competition for interior roster spots.

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7 minutes ago, Chandler#81 said:

I’m all for anyway the coaches decide who the 5 best are, but I really like this combo -if Dawkins buys into it. Having Spain & Morse on Cody’s left will be great for him and accelerate his maturity at RT. jmo

 

I see Dawkins buying in...seems like that kind of guy.  I do feel, and I think he's stated it publicly, that he wants LT.  

I still feel good about him.  I think he meant it when he said he go too comfortable last year and won't let that happen again.  He will start somewhere.

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14 minutes ago, Royale with Cheese said:

 

How do you see it playing out game 1?

I don't know much about Ty other than it sounds like it's going to be tough to keep him off the field.  Maybe?

LT - Nsheke

LG - Dawkins

C - Morse

RG - Spain

RT - Ford

 

I still think:

 

Dawkins

Long / Feliciano

Morse

Spain

Ford

 

But I think your version is definitely possible - see my post about why they might be using Spain at RG rather than LG.

6 minutes ago, thebandit27 said:

 

I feel that this is exactly what they're doing, save for the idea that Spain is a definite starter. They may simply be trying to establish his positional flexibility since they're going to have serious competition for interior roster spots.

 

I don't see any way Spain isn't one of their best 5.

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9 minutes ago, GunnerBill said:

 

I still think:

 

Dawkins

Long / Feliciano

Morse

Spain

Ford

 

But I think your version is definitely possible - see my post about why they might be using Spain at RG rather than LG.

 

I don't see any way Spain isn't one of their best 5.

 

Agreed. You know how much these guys value positional flexibility though 

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14 minutes ago, thebandit27 said:

 

Agreed. You know how much these guys value positional flexibility though 

 

24 minutes ago, GunnerBill said:

 

I still think:

 

Dawkins

Long / Feliciano

Morse

Spain

Ford

 

But I think your version is definitely possible - see my post about why they might be using Spain at RG rather than LG.

 

I don't see any way Spain isn't one of their best 5.

I do agree with that base, but also with the flexibility that bandit is mentioning. 

 

I haven't forgotten some of the formations that Roman had dreamed up. With a young QB, and two possible Hall of Fame running backs, and no dominant receiving targets it makes a lot of sense to have the run open up the pass. With Nseshke as a swing tackle, you can throw him out on some unbalanced lines and create some mismatches that Shady will be salivating over.

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1 hour ago, Royale with Cheese said:

 

When do you see Ford sliding in with the 1's and where at?  Do you think he pushes Long early?

But seriously ...   I think he'll move up with the 1's

Ford could realistically play at either guard or tackle at the professional level as Ford has experience has both positions.

Ford  played guard throughout his first two seasons at Oklahoma and to right tackle in 2018, where he excelled

 

Has anyone seen Mike Roadhack?  Or will ESPN assign a different beat reporter? 

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2 hours ago, 4merper4mer said:

When you try to correct "grammer" it always backfires.

Lol, spell check cant correct everything.  Good thing i wasnt getting on him for spelling and also admitting i spell things wrong all the time.... bc that just would have been - o wait.... nevermind

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37 minutes ago, BillsDiehard said:

I was looking at the photo shoot slides and they didn't have a picture of him...playing catch-up with vids. Thanks.

again ..  in the thread I started there is a link from the Bills that have photographs of all 91 players 

 

 

this is why duplicate threads are a PITA.  

 

 

halfway down  Page 6   91 players 

 

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