gjv001 Posted May 11, 2019 Share Posted May 11, 2019 I've been reading that the Bills are interested in signing a veteran TE. However, my understanding is that the primary reason for the veteran TE is to bring playing experience into the TE room. If that's the case, why not hire an experienced TE as an assistant coach. This would give the coaches the veteran experience they feel is important to their TE group with sacrificing valuable reps for these new players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted May 11, 2019 Share Posted May 11, 2019 ...Jesus, we do NOT have an effin' clue yet as to what we have via FA, draft picks as well as existing TE's on the roster knowing they have to "step it up"...BUT the "grass MUST be greener...."...no wonder I drink Bourbon with a Maalox chaser...good Lord............ 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gugny Posted May 11, 2019 Share Posted May 11, 2019 Why, pray tell, do so many people think that EVERY FORMER NFL PLAYER IS A COACHING CANDIDATE???????? 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Da webster guy Posted May 11, 2019 Share Posted May 11, 2019 Kroft is supposedly a great guy, helpful etc. Dude has 4 years in the league, 8TD's 66 catches for 670 yards, he learned behind Eifert who had excellent skills. That's enough veteran for me at the position. Now let the kids fight it out. I still think Croom is going to make the cut at TE, he's more of a receiver but started to block pretty well as the year went on, even singled up against some good pass rushers. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
formerlyofCtown Posted May 11, 2019 Share Posted May 11, 2019 11 minutes ago, Gugny said: Why, pray tell, do so many people think that EVERY FORMER NFL PLAYER IS A COACHING CANDIDATE???????? Its Ed Reeds fault. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted May 11, 2019 Share Posted May 11, 2019 13 minutes ago, Gugny said: Why, pray tell, do so many people think that EVERY FORMER NFL PLAYER IS A COACHING CANDIDATE???????? ...so I assume that is a no no as far as Manziel coaching Josh??...just askin'............. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOUSE Posted May 11, 2019 Share Posted May 11, 2019 (edited) This could get nasty .. Edited May 11, 2019 by HOUSE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted May 11, 2019 Share Posted May 11, 2019 1 minute ago, HOUSE said: This could get nasty ...well, we're in a dry spell, right?......surge in popcorn sales will benefit the Boy Scouts..... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LabattBlue Posted May 11, 2019 Share Posted May 11, 2019 (edited) 21 minutes ago, Gugny said: Why, pray tell, do so many people think that EVERY FORMER NFL PLAYER IS A COACHING CANDIDATE???????? ^^^ This. So many members of TSW, need a refresher course in RMPL. I suspect sometime between now and training camp, someone will once again suggest that Jim Kelly be hired as a QB coach/consultant. Edited May 11, 2019 by LabattBlue Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WideNine Posted May 11, 2019 Share Posted May 11, 2019 16 minutes ago, Gugny said: Why, pray tell, do so many people think that EVERY FORMER NFL PLAYER IS A COACHING CANDIDATE???????? This. Many former successful athletes do not have a clue about how to assess the talent of others and apply it, they tend to turn to what they were able to do as players as their baseline. Some should just never be in a position to "coach" others; Just watch an Edelman interview and you can virtually see the Neurons chasing the butterflies around. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LABILLBACKER Posted May 11, 2019 Share Posted May 11, 2019 Let's not overthink this. We couldn't land Oliver and Hockenson so we're just going to have to make the most of Knox, Kroft and Croom. The others can fight it out for a blocking spot. TE's like Watson, Gronk and ASJ are done. Maybe Knox plans out? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WideNine Posted May 11, 2019 Share Posted May 11, 2019 6 minutes ago, LABILLBACKER said: Let's not overthink this. We couldn't land Oliver and Hockenson so we're just going to have to make the most of Knox, Kroft and Croom. The others can fight it out for a blocking spot. TE's like Watson, Gronk and ASJ are done. Maybe Knox plans out? This is where I am at. The Bills went with prospects with high ceilings that are going to need some coaching up. In Jax Oliver will need some coaching up too, but I think his ceiling may be a bit higher than some of the later round picks we nabbed - time will tell. I have seen some pundits give the Jaguars a failing draft grade, but I think they had a solid draft and I am not one to give Marrone any credit for anything so it is not like I want to like what they did in the draft. I do not know enough about our TE coach Boras to have an opinion on his ability to get it done, but he did not do a terrible job with Croom with a season of coaching and he has had little talent to work with overall. Would like to see what he is able to produce with this new crop before looking for position coach upgrades. Older clip with Boras getting after it in practice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed_Formerly_of_Roch Posted May 11, 2019 Share Posted May 11, 2019 (edited) 25 minutes ago, OldTimeAFLGuy said: ...so I assume that is a no no as far as Manziel coaching Josh??...just askin'............. Well I think to qualify as a former player, you need to have played more than about 2 weeks! 20 minutes ago, LabattBlue said: ^^^ This. So many members of TSW, need a refresher course in RMPL. I suspect sometime between now and training camp, someone will once again suggest that Jim Kelly be hired as a QB coach/consultant. You can see how much it helped with his nephew Chad! Edited May 11, 2019 by Ed_Formerly_of_Roch 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1ManRaid Posted May 11, 2019 Share Posted May 11, 2019 Crazy idea, but how about instead of hiring some random vet TE to be a TE coach, you just hire a TE coach. I went to school, doesn't make me a teacher. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
klos63 Posted May 11, 2019 Share Posted May 11, 2019 1 hour ago, Gugny said: Why, pray tell, do so many people think that EVERY FORMER NFL PLAYER IS A COACHING CANDIDATE???????? It's really getting annoying. Fred Jackson, D Anderson, Lorax when he retires.... That and every veteran is a 'mentor'. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
without a drought Posted May 11, 2019 Share Posted May 11, 2019 I think we need an assistant to the assistant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted May 11, 2019 Share Posted May 11, 2019 I think they actually want a vet TE to be able to play as well. It’s a very difficult position to learn out of the gate in the nfl. The only blocking TEs they have are a 7th rd rookie and a guy converting from OT. I don’t think they need another TE Coach. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vorpma Posted May 11, 2019 Share Posted May 11, 2019 1 hour ago, OldTimeAFLGuy said: ...Jesus, we do NOT have an effin' clue yet as to what we have via FA, draft picks as well as existing TE's on the roster knowing they have to "step it up"...BUT the "grass MUST be greener...."...no wonder I drink Bourbon with a Maalox chaser...good Lord............ Post of the Decade!!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColoradoBills Posted May 11, 2019 Share Posted May 11, 2019 1 minute ago, YoloinOhio said: I think they actually want a vet TE to be able to play as well. It’s a very difficult position to learn out of the gate in the nfl. The only blocking TEs they have are a 7th rd rookie and a guy converting from OT. I don’t think they need another TE Coach. Exactly, and I would think they just need another body in camp and it probably should be a vet. With only 4 true TEs and the Fisher project one more is needed. Heck they got 13 WRs for about 6 spots and 8 RB/FBs for 4 in camp. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted May 11, 2019 Share Posted May 11, 2019 9 minutes ago, vorpma said: Post of the Decade!!!!!! ...damn you...just wasted a perfectly good pair of Depends..."post of the decade"?...seriously?....I have 14,717 ALL of which by unanimous consent have been declared effin' USELESS.....better distance yourself from me bud.... 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Formerly Allan in MD Posted May 11, 2019 Share Posted May 11, 2019 I believe we have a receivers coach and a TE with 4 years experience, which certainly qualifies as "veteran experience." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
US Egg Posted May 11, 2019 Share Posted May 11, 2019 (edited) The NFL ratio of coaches to players likely is the highest of any other Pro sport. ...though I've seen youth hockey teams with higher ratios with wanna be coaches/Dads. The trend is growing more coaches are needed to win but has not been proven to be an absolute. Here is the breakdown of coaches per team for 2018: (Warning ! This might be painful for some to read.) Bills – 28 49ers – 27 Browns – 26 Eagles – 26 Saints – 25 Raiders – 25 Cowboys – 24 Jaguars – 24 Rams – 24 Seahawks – 24 Buccaneers – 24 Titans – 24 Packers – 23 Redskins – 23 Cardinals – 22 Bears – 22 Broncos – 22 Colts – 22 Dolphins – 22 Jets – 22 Lions – 21 Texans – 21 Chargers – 21 Vikings – 21 Giants – 21 Falcons – 20 Panthers – 20 Bengals – 20 Chiefs – 20 Ravens – 19 Steelers – 17 Patriots – 14 (source:https://www.headcoachranking.com/inside-numbers-nfl-coaching-staffs/) Edited May 11, 2019 by I am the egg man 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gugny Posted May 11, 2019 Share Posted May 11, 2019 15 minutes ago, I am the egg man said: The NFL ratio of coaches to players has to be highest of any other Pro sport. ...though I've seen youth hockey teams with a higher ratio with wanna be coaches/Dads. The trend is growing that more coaches are required but it has not been proven to be an absolute. Here is the breakdown of coaches per team for 2018: (Warning ! This might be painful for some to read.) Bills – 28 49ers – 27 Browns – 26 Eagles – 26 Saints – 25 Raiders – 25 Cowboys – 24 Jaguars – 24 Rams – 24 Seahawks – 24 Buccaneers – 24 Titans – 24 Packers – 23 Redskins – 23 Cardinals – 22 Bears – 22 Broncos – 22 Colts – 22 Dolphins – 22 Jets – 22 Lions – 21 Texans – 21 Chargers – 21 Vikings – 21 Giants – 21 Falcons – 20 Panthers – 20 Bengals – 20 Chiefs – 20 Ravens – 19 Steelers – 17 Patriots – 14 (source:https://www.headcoachranking.com/inside-numbers-nfl-coaching-staffs/) Sweet Jesus. That's almost one coach for every two players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBill Posted May 11, 2019 Share Posted May 11, 2019 1 hour ago, without a drought said: I think we need an assistant to the assistant. Who also needs a Jr Assistant to lead the intern.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Misterbluesky Posted May 11, 2019 Share Posted May 11, 2019 6 minutes ago, Gugny said: Sweet Jesus. That's almost one coach for every two players. 28 coaches and no true starting TE's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punching Bag Posted May 11, 2019 Share Posted May 11, 2019 1 hour ago, Gugny said: Sweet Jesus. That's almost one coach for every two players. The choosing of what members of staff are coaches is questionable. For Chiefs "Statistical Analysis Coordinator" is listed as a coach. Trainers used to be listed separately but for that article they grouped them into coaches and per NFLPA they are not coaches hence why they can work with players during certain phases of voluntary camps. 4 hours ago, Gugny said: Why, pray tell, do so many people think that EVERY FORMER NFL PLAYER IS A COACHING CANDIDATE???????? Well I have not heard anyone mention Billy Joe Tolliver as a coaching candidate and he has LOTS of experience other than reading playbooks. I think you are exaggerating slightly. 3 hours ago, OldTimeAFLGuy said: ...so I assume that is a no no as far as Manziel coaching Josh??...just askin'............. Someone said EVERY PLAYER so I guess that is a maybe. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
without a drought Posted May 11, 2019 Share Posted May 11, 2019 I wonder how Mike Ditka is doing...he is a former TE and head coach. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted May 11, 2019 Share Posted May 11, 2019 4 hours ago, formerlyofCtown said: Its Ed Reeds fault. Oh man...remember that dude? No? Well, no one does. As "coach" anyway. what a mess the was Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just Joshin' Posted May 11, 2019 Share Posted May 11, 2019 2 hours ago, Misterbluesky said: 28 coaches and no true starting TE's. How does the number of coaches effect no true starting TE? They seem independent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gjv001 Posted May 11, 2019 Author Share Posted May 11, 2019 5 hours ago, OldTimeAFLGuy said: ...Jesus, we do NOT have an effin' clue yet as to what we have via FA, draft picks as well as existing TE's on the roster knowing they have to "step it up"...BUT the "grass MUST be greener...."...no wonder I drink Bourbon with a Maalox chaser...good Lord............ Your consumption of Bourbon and Maalox is obvious. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gjv001 Posted May 11, 2019 Author Share Posted May 11, 2019 5 hours ago, Gugny said: Why, pray tell, do so many people think that EVERY FORMER NFL PLAYER IS A COACHING CANDIDATE???????? Who said they were? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreggTX Posted May 11, 2019 Share Posted May 11, 2019 (edited) And don't count Sweeney out. He has great hands and is a decent blocker. If he learns to runs routes well, he could be a factor. We may not have any 1 guy that is probowl caliber in 2019, but maybe soon after. I agree that these young TE's need more reps. Edited May 11, 2019 by GreggTX Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted May 12, 2019 Share Posted May 12, 2019 4 hours ago, gjv001 said: Your consumption of Bourbon and Maalox is obvious. Its one of the less shocking things I’ve seen on here lately, even with the Derek Anderson retirement Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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