elijah Posted May 9, 2019 Share Posted May 9, 2019 (edited) After missing out on Ziggy Ansah, it’s time to look forward to the next wave of cuts coming. June 1 is a big day in a lot of contracts and takes off some of the dead cap that teams have to carry in the case of cutting a player, so I looked at some teams tight against the cap and some players they would save a lot of money by cutting and compiled a list. NOTE: I’m not saying every name on this list is going to get cut, I understand it would take some crazy scenarios for a couple of these players to get cut, but this is just a list of players that won’t weigh heavy to cut on a team that’s up against the salary cap. I’m also not saying the Bills would be interest in everyone, or anyone, on the list. Just some names to keep our eyes on as June 1 and training camp approach closer. I may have missed a few but from glancing through spotrac these are the names that popped out too me. Paranthesis are roughly (team savings by cutting player/teams cap space) DE, Everson Griffin - Vikings ($7.5M/-$17M) DT, Gerald McCoy - Buccaneers ($13M/-$13M) OLB, Lavonte David - Buccaneers ($10M/-$13M) WR, Mohammed Sanu - Falcons ($6M/-$14M) CB, Joe Haden - Steelers ($10M/-$14M) DE, Dante Fowler Jr. - Rams ($12M/-$6M) CB, Aqib Talib - Rams ($8M/-$6M) DE, Mike Daniels - Packers ($8M/-$10M) CB, Tramon Williams - Packers ($4M/-$6M) DE, Mario Addison - Panthers ($8M/-$5.5M) CB, Chris Harris - Broncos ($8M/-$6M) DE, Derek Wolfe - Broncos ($8M/-$6M) DE/OLB, Ryan Kerrigan - Redskins ($10M/-$3M) TE, Vernon Davis - Redskins ($5M/-$3M) DE, Calais Campbell - Jaguars ($12M/-$5M) OLB, Sean Lee - Cowboys ($6M, -$250k) DT, Tyrone Crawford - Cowboys ($7M, -$250k) DT, Xavier Williams - Chiefs ($3M, -$2M) RT, Marcus Gilbert - Cardinals ($5M, $500k) DE, Chris Long - Eagles ($5M/$4.5M) If any of the above were to get cut, there’s quite a few players that I think would be worth taking a flier on for the Bills. Namely being Everson Griffin, Mario Addison, Ryan Kerrigan, Calais Campbell, Mohammed Sanu, Aqib Talib, Joe Haden and Chris Harris. Chris Harris is really someone to keep your eyes on with the reports of wanting a trade if not restructured. Edited May 9, 2019 by elijah 6 2 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Big Turk Posted May 9, 2019 Share Posted May 9, 2019 8 minutes ago, elijah said: After missing out on Ziggy Ansah, it’s time to look forward to the next wave of cuts coming. June 1 is a big day in a lot of contracts and takes off some of the dead cap that teams have to carry in the case of cutting a player, so I looked at some teams tight against the cap and some players they would save a lot of money by cutting and compiled a list. NOTE: I’m not saying every name on this list is going to get cut, I understand it would take some crazy scenarios for a couple of these players to get cut, but this is just a list of players that won’t weigh heavy to cut on a team that’s up against the salary cap. I’m also not saying the Bills would be interest in everyone, or anyone, on the list. Just some names to keep our eyes on as June 1 and training camp approach closer. I may have missed a few but from glancing through spotrac these are the names that popped out too me. Paranthesis are roughly (team savings by cutting player/teams cap space) DE, Everson Griffin - Vikings ($7.5M/-$17M) DT, Gerald McCoy - Buccaneers ($13M/-$13M) OLB, Lavonte David - Buccaneers ($10M/-$13M) WR, Mohammed Sanu - Falcons ($6M/-$14M) CB, Joe Haden - Steelers ($10M/-$14M) DE, Dante Fowler Jr. - Rams ($12M/-$6M) CB, Aqib Talib - Rams ($8M/-$6M) DE, Mike Daniels - Packers ($8M/-$10M) CB, Tramon Williams - Packers ($4M/-$6M) DE, Mario Addison - Panthers ($8M/-$5.5M) CB, Chris Harris - Broncos ($8M/-$6M) DE, Derek Wolfe - Broncos ($8M/-$6M) DE/OLB, Ryan Kerrigan - Redskins ($10M/-$3M) TE, Vernon Davis - Redskins ($5M/-$3M) DE, Calais Campbell - Jaguars ($12M/-$5M) OLB, Sean Lee - Cowboys ($6M, -$250k) DT, Tyrone Crawford - Cowboys ($7M, -$250k) DT, Xavier Williams - Chiefs ($3M, -$2M) RT, Marcus Gilbert - Cardinals ($5M, $500k) DE, Chris Long - Eagles ($5M/$4.5M) If any of the above were to get cut, there’s quite a few players that I think would be worth taking a flier on for the Bills. Namely being Everson Griffin, Mario Addison, Ryan Kerrigan, Calais Campbell, Mohammed Sanu, Aqib Talib, Joe Haden and Chris Harris. Chris Harris is really someone to keep your eyes on with the reports of wanting a trade if not restructured. How many CB's do we need? We probably have 5 starting caliber corners already and one who is a legit all-pro level corner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whatdrought Posted May 9, 2019 Share Posted May 9, 2019 Man, I would give my right nut to put Calais Campbell on our defense right now... 2 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SMAKCruiser Posted May 9, 2019 Share Posted May 9, 2019 Dante Fowler was just signed to a 1 year deal in March, why would they cut him June 1st? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BarleyNY Posted May 9, 2019 Share Posted May 9, 2019 2 minutes ago, whatdrought said: Man, I would give my right nut to put Calais Campbell on our defense right now... Agreed. I very highly doubt that he would be a cap casualty anytime soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whatdrought Posted May 9, 2019 Share Posted May 9, 2019 Just now, BarleyNY said: Agreed. I very highly doubt that he would be a cap casualty anytime soon. Maybe if that Defense lays an egg again this year. More likely a mid-season trade candidate if they're done by Halloween. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elijah Posted May 9, 2019 Author Share Posted May 9, 2019 4 minutes ago, matter2003 said: How many CB's do we need? We probably have 5 starting caliber corners already and one who is a legit all-pro level corner. That’s a stretch. Tre White is very talented and a top cornerback in the league, but he’s not quite an all-pro level corner yet. Pro bowl caliber? Yes. But all-pro is a whole new tier of cornerback’s, you’re talking about top 5 in the league, I’m not sure Tre is top 5 in the league yet. And I’m not sure I would go as far to say we have 5 starting caliber corners. Gaines showed capable back in 2017 when he was healthy. Taron Johnson had a terrific year, but again that’s when he was healthy. On top of not consistently being healthy, McDermott seemed to like Taron in the slot rather than on the outside. Levi Wallace had a good year but he had a very small amount of playing time and being an undrsfted free agent, you can hope for the best but ultimately should expect his game to regress with more exposure. And who who are you considering the fifth? Kevin Johnson? He may not even make the roster and is extremely injury prone. We we have one sure fire starter and then a bunch of borderline starters that provide for excellent depth. Bringing in another starting caliber corner could really improve this defense. 2 minutes ago, SMAKCruiser said: Dante Fowler was just signed to a 1 year deal in March, why would they cut him June 1st? I’ll edit him out of the list, I thought he was on the last year of his old contract, not the first one of a new one year deal. Thank you ? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whatdrought Posted May 9, 2019 Share Posted May 9, 2019 Just now, elijah said: That’s a stretch. Tre White is very talented and a top cornerback in the league, but he’s not quite an all-pro level corner yet. Pro bowl caliber? Yes. But all-pro is a whole new tier of cornerback’s, you’re talking about top 5 in the league, I’m not sure Tre is top 5 in the league yet. And I’m not sure I would go as far to say we have 5 starting caliber corners. Gaines showed capable back in 2017 when he was healthy. Taron Johnson had a terrific year, but again that’s when he was healthy. On top of not consistently being healthy, McDermott seemed to like Taron in the slot rather than on the outside. Levi Wallace had a good year but he had a very small amount of playing time and being an undrsfted free agent, you can hope for the best but ultimately should expect his game to regress with more exposure. And who who are you considering the fifth? Kevin Johnson? He may not even make the roster and is extremely injury prone. We we have one sure fire starter and then a bunch of borderline starters that provide for excellent depth. Bringing in another starting caliber corner could really improve this defense. I think Tre played at dang near close to an all-pro level his rookie year, but stepped back a bit this year. If Johnson comes back from injury I expect him to be a top 3 nickel back in the league this year. As for Wallace, people seem to sleep on how well he played last year. Definitely it needs to be tempered and we can't expect anything amazing, but I wouldn't be shocked if he became a solid-very good starter this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BarleyNY Posted May 9, 2019 Share Posted May 9, 2019 Just now, whatdrought said: Maybe if that Defense lays an egg again this year. More likely a mid-season trade candidate if they're done by Halloween. It’s the Jags so you never know. He’d be an incredible pick up for anything less than a premium draft pick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whatdrought Posted May 9, 2019 Share Posted May 9, 2019 Just now, BarleyNY said: It’s the Jags so you never know. He’d be an incredible pick up for anything less than a premium draft pick. Honestly, I know he's older and he has a big cap hit, but I'd give them our 2020 second rounder right now. I think we're at a point where we can recover from that and his addition would send this defense to the top of the league very quickly. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elijah Posted May 9, 2019 Author Share Posted May 9, 2019 5 minutes ago, BarleyNY said: Agreed. I very highly doubt that he would be a cap casualty anytime soon. I’m not necessarily saying he would, more so saying it shouldn’t be that surprising if it did happen. They’re tight against the cap, actually negative right now, and they just drafted Josh Allen. The other side is set with Ngakue and cutting Campbell would save them $12 million. Out of this list, I expect maybe 2 or 3 of them to actually get cut. A lot of guys are talented players that you wouldn’t expect a team to cut, but when cap space gets tight we’ve seen crazier things happen. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BarleyNY Posted May 9, 2019 Share Posted May 9, 2019 Just now, elijah said: I’m not necessarily saying he would, more so saying it shouldn’t be that surprising if it did happen. They’re tight against the cap, actually negative right now, and they just drafted Josh Allen. The other side is set with Ngakue and cutting Campbell would save them $12 million. Out of this list, I expect maybe 2 or 3 of them to actually get cut. A lot of guys are talented players that you wouldn’t expect a team to cut, but when cap space gets tight we’ve seen crazier things happen. I get that older players making a lot are the usual suspects for cap savings. But I think you might be underestimating how good Calais Campbell is. He’s been an absolute freaking stud for the last several seasons. I think you have a good list overall, but the Jags probably are not letting Campbell go at all. If they were to, it’d be for significant draft value. As for their cap issues, I really don’t think things are that bad for the Jags. They only show being over the cap if you count all contracts. They have over $14M available under the rule of 51. The draft picks will trim that down, but they won’t have to make any cap moves to accommodate them. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColoradoBills Posted May 9, 2019 Share Posted May 9, 2019 13 minutes ago, elijah said: I’m not necessarily saying he would, more so saying it shouldn’t be that surprising if it did happen. They’re tight against the cap, actually negative right now, and they just drafted Josh Allen. The other side is set with Ngakue and cutting Campbell would save them $12 million. Out of this list, I expect maybe 2 or 3 of them to actually get cut. A lot of guys are talented players that you wouldn’t expect a team to cut, but when cap space gets tight we’ve seen crazier things happen. It's quite common for teams to try to trade these contracts before outright cutting them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just Joshin' Posted May 9, 2019 Share Posted May 9, 2019 26 minutes ago, whatdrought said: Man, I would give my right nut to put Calais Campbell on our defense right now... Bookmarked for future reference if needed. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted May 9, 2019 Share Posted May 9, 2019 Did the jags not just take a DE high? They are against the cap Toss them a later pick for their DE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whatdrought Posted May 9, 2019 Share Posted May 9, 2019 Just now, Just Joshin' said: Bookmarked for future reference if needed. Cheaper than birth control. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustWinPlease Posted May 9, 2019 Share Posted May 9, 2019 36 minutes ago, elijah said: After missing out on Ziggy Ansah, it’s time to look forward to the next wave of cuts coming. June 1 is a big day in a lot of contracts and takes off some of the dead cap that teams have to carry in the case of cutting a player, so I looked at some teams tight against the cap and some players they would save a lot of money by cutting and compiled a list. NOTE: I’m not saying every name on this list is going to get cut, I understand it would take some crazy scenarios for a couple of these players to get cut, but this is just a list of players that won’t weigh heavy to cut on a team that’s up against the salary cap. I’m also not saying the Bills would be interest in everyone, or anyone, on the list. Just some names to keep our eyes on as June 1 and training camp approach closer. I may have missed a few but from glancing through spotrac these are the names that popped out too me. Paranthesis are roughly (team savings by cutting player/teams cap space) DE, Everson Griffin - Vikings ($7.5M/-$17M) DT, Gerald McCoy - Buccaneers ($13M/-$13M) OLB, Lavonte David - Buccaneers ($10M/-$13M) WR, Mohammed Sanu - Falcons ($6M/-$14M) CB, Joe Haden - Steelers ($10M/-$14M) DE, Dante Fowler Jr. - Rams ($12M/-$6M) CB, Aqib Talib - Rams ($8M/-$6M) DE, Mike Daniels - Packers ($8M/-$10M) CB, Tramon Williams - Packers ($4M/-$6M) DE, Mario Addison - Panthers ($8M/-$5.5M) CB, Chris Harris - Broncos ($8M/-$6M) DE, Derek Wolfe - Broncos ($8M/-$6M) DE/OLB, Ryan Kerrigan - Redskins ($10M/-$3M) TE, Vernon Davis - Redskins ($5M/-$3M) DE, Calais Campbell - Jaguars ($12M/-$5M) OLB, Sean Lee - Cowboys ($6M, -$250k) DT, Tyrone Crawford - Cowboys ($7M, -$250k) DT, Xavier Williams - Chiefs ($3M, -$2M) RT, Marcus Gilbert - Cardinals ($5M, $500k) DE, Chris Long - Eagles ($5M/$4.5M) If any of the above were to get cut, there’s quite a few players that I think would be worth taking a flier on for the Bills. Namely being Everson Griffin, Mario Addison, Ryan Kerrigan, Calais Campbell, Mohammed Sanu, Aqib Talib, Joe Haden and Chris Harris. Chris Harris is really someone to keep your eyes on with the reports of wanting a trade if not restructured. Lavonte David or Sean Lee would be awesome additions to this defense...I'd prefer David, but Lee would be solid too. That would allow McDermott and Frazier to use Lorenzo Alexander in a variety of ways, and give them three LBs that are good in coverage too. David/Lee - Edmunds - Milano would be a top-5 LB unit in the NFL. And I might prefer Alexander at DE over anyone not named Jerry Hughes, especially on passing downs (where I'd prefer a better coverage LB). Other than that, I'd take Sanu or Davis...we still need a big (proven) WR and a #1 TE. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canadian Bills Fan Posted May 9, 2019 Share Posted May 9, 2019 omg I would be on Sean Lee so fast if he were cut. Like a gold digger at millionaires retirement home 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Watkins90 Posted May 9, 2019 Share Posted May 9, 2019 Lol at taking a "flier" on a DE who is in his prime, Everson Griffin. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glazeduck Posted May 9, 2019 Share Posted May 9, 2019 Sean Lee ain't going anywhere (unless it's in a wheelchair). But seriously, he's the heart and soul of that Dallas defense. They'll find other ways trim that massive amount of fat... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rock-A-Bye Beasley Posted May 9, 2019 Share Posted May 9, 2019 1 hour ago, John from Riverside said: Did the jags not just take a DE high? They are against the cap Toss them a later pick for their DE Why would the Jags do that? Just because we traded them a dlineman for almost nothing in the past? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turk71 Posted May 9, 2019 Share Posted May 9, 2019 Calais Campbell, Chris Harris would be amazing additions. Hard to imagine them being available though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BubbaT Posted May 9, 2019 Share Posted May 9, 2019 1 hour ago, whatdrought said: Man, I would give my right nut to put Calais Campbell on our defense right now... I'd give your right nut to add Campbell too. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ethan in Cleveland Posted May 9, 2019 Share Posted May 9, 2019 Top priority at this point is to add another middle linebacker. After Edmunds there is not another guy on the roster that would make another NFL team. Adding another pass rushing DE or edge guy would be second. Of course that depends alot on PED Murphy's health. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elijah Posted May 9, 2019 Author Share Posted May 9, 2019 Just now, Ethan in Portland said: Top priority at this point is to add another middle linebacker. After Edmunds there is not another guy on the roster that would make another NFL team. Adding another pass rushing DE or edge guy would be second. Of course that depends alot on PED Murphy's health. I would love to bring in Navorro Bowman for some depth and to increase competition. I’m not sure if he’s still a free agent, or if he’d sign here almost surely as a backup though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Florida Bills Fanatic Posted May 9, 2019 Share Posted May 9, 2019 Great work compiling the list. There are some definite future cap casualties on it. Some of the better players are likely to restructure existing deals to stay where they are. Guys like Harris are being difficult to get more cash and probably don't care where they play next year. As other posters have indicated, there are a few that would be great fits for our Bills. I think there will be some surprises that aren't on the list, maybe a couple of Bills. I'm sure Beane is on top of this and will be ready to move if the right guy becomes available. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gugny Posted May 9, 2019 Share Posted May 9, 2019 4 hours ago, Canadian Bills Fan said: omg I would be on Sean Lee so fast if he were cut. Like a gold digger at millionaires retirement home 4 hours ago, glazeduck said: Sean Lee ain't going anywhere (unless it's in a wheelchair). But seriously, he's the heart and soul of that Dallas defense. They'll find other ways trim that massive amount of fat... Sean Lee is the heart and soul of Dallas' injury report. No thanks! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orlando Tim Posted May 10, 2019 Share Posted May 10, 2019 I would love a quick DE otherwise i think the cost will be higher than worth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted May 10, 2019 Share Posted May 10, 2019 9 hours ago, elijah said: I’m not necessarily saying he would, more so saying it shouldn’t be that surprising if it did happen. They’re tight against the cap, actually negative right now, and they just drafted Josh Allen. The other side is set with Ngakue and cutting Campbell would save them $12 million. Out of this list, I expect maybe 2 or 3 of them to actually get cut. A lot of guys are talented players that you wouldn’t expect a team to cut, but when cap space gets tight we’ve seen crazier things happen. Two things- I suppose a question and a point 1) are the savings noted the specific June 1 distinction savings? 2) now that you can designate a guy a June 1, the actual day is no longer particularly important Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloHokie13 Posted May 10, 2019 Share Posted May 10, 2019 Could be something or nothing, but Brandon Beane was the person who signed Mario Addison to the Panthers from Washington's practice squad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALF Posted May 10, 2019 Share Posted May 10, 2019 After Knox signs, Bill's cap about $25.5M , that would be a nice roll over https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/buffalo-bills/cap/ 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted May 10, 2019 Share Posted May 10, 2019 (edited) 20 hours ago, Canadian Bills Fan said: omg I would be on Sean Lee so fast if he were cut. Like a gold digger at millionaires retirement home How does your wife feel about this? 10 minutes ago, ALF said: After Knox signs, Bill's cap about $25.5M , that would be a nice roll over https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/buffalo-bills/cap/ it would But I believe the Bills need to spend more to meet the league 4 year spending limit This rule mandates that over a set 4 year span a club must average spending of at least 89% of the allocated cap. We are currently in year 3 of the current 4 year span (2017-2020). Based on publicly available figures from Spotrac and the NFLPA, the Bills are required to spend about $213.95 million in cash dollars between 2019 and 2020 (assuming a $10 million salary cap increase in 2020) in order to comply with the CBA-required 89% team minimum cash spend. Currently, the Bills are at around 88.3% for 2017 and 2018 (the minimum is computed-based on a 2017-2020 average), and need to spend around $83.1 million in 2019 in order to be on pace to meet the minimum of 89%. The team already has $87.375 million in 2019 committed cash, so it shouldn’t be difficult. If only the minimum cash spending to be on pace is equaled in 2019, the team would then be required to spend a whopping $130.85 million in cash in 2020. The Bills currently only have $46.25 million in committed cash for 2020. https://www.buffalorumblings.com/2019/2/11/18218124/buffalo-bills-need-to-spend-cash-this-offseason-to-meet-nfl-requirements-nflpa-salary-cap Of course 2020 there are still 20 ish spots to fill in 2020 so... factor that in. Edited May 10, 2019 by ShadyBillsFan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted May 10, 2019 Share Posted May 10, 2019 19 hours ago, elijah said: I would love to bring in Navorro Bowman for some depth and to increase competition. I’m not sure if he’s still a free agent, or if he’d sign here almost surely as a backup though. He is a Raider. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsbackto81 Posted May 10, 2019 Share Posted May 10, 2019 21 hours ago, BarleyNY said: Agreed. I very highly doubt that he would be a cap casualty anytime soon. 21 hours ago, BarleyNY said: It’s the Jags so you never know. He’d be an incredible pick up for anything less than a premium draft pick. Doubt he gets released. They cut Malik Jackson and restructured Dareus so they can keep Campbell. But, he would look great in a Bills jersey. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted May 10, 2019 Share Posted May 10, 2019 21 hours ago, whatdrought said: Man, I would give my right nut to put Calais Campbell on our defense right now... Is the right one the $12million one? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canadian Bills Fan Posted May 10, 2019 Share Posted May 10, 2019 1 hour ago, ShadyBillsFan said: How does your wife feel about this? If he stays healthy and is productive, she's ok with it 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elijah Posted May 10, 2019 Author Share Posted May 10, 2019 13 hours ago, NoSaint said: ) are the savings noted the specific June 1 distinction savings? yes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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