“Tailgate Village”: New tailgating policy at New Era for bus/limo lot

[formerlyofCtown]

15 minutes ago, Logic said:

If it happens on private property owned by the Bills, it absolutely IS the business of the Pegulas. If someone dies in the Bills parking lot, does any part of you doubt that the family will be bringing a lawsuit against the Pegulas?

Another problem with our society.  Law suits.  So how many times has somebody died?

[SlimShady'sSpaceForce]

https://billswire.usatoday.com/2019/05/01/buffalo-bills-unveil-new-tailgate-policy-new-era-field/

 

Aimed at curbing large groups of fans traveling to the game via buses or limos, the Bills announced a policy that will require the large vehicles to purchase a tailgating package for its occupants and those traveling by bus or limo are no longer allowed to tailgate at their vehicle. Instead, the Bills will charge these fans to tailgate in an area designated as the “Tailgate Village.”

 

The cost for a 20-person vehicle is $300, then $600 for a 40-passenger vehicle and $900 for a 60-person vehicle. That’s $15 per passenger, and is paid in advance of a parking pass being issued. Vehicles that do not want to tailgate will have to pay $100 for a parking pass still, but are not required to purchase a tailgate package.

 

“We want to provide a safe and fun experience in the Bus and Limo Lot,” said Bills Vice President of Operations and Guest Experience, Andy Major.

[Boatdrinks]

10 minutes ago, coloradobillsfan said:

 

In this case the cop's partner was 1000% right.  They are trying to corral 70,000+ hooligans, you simply do not touch them under any circumstances period.  

Yep. Civilian was an idiot for doing that,. Unfortunately that’s the world we live in. 

[Jamie Nails]

Nothing will change anything as long as the stadium is out in OP. Sure the massive groups, might be more fragmented, but there are still plenty of places for idiots to congregate and do dumb things. This is about money, not fan experience or safety. 

[Capco]

3 minutes ago, coloradobillsfan said:

 

In this case the cop's partner was 1000% right.  They are trying to corral 70,000+ hooligans, you simply do not touch them under any circumstances period.  

 

And I do get that, as I noted the situation in my first sentence.  Tapping someone on the shoulder to ask a question in and of itself isn't illegal (afaik?), but like you said you have to be aware of the whole situation.  You're outstretching your arm toward a LEO in the middle of a crowded stadium lot while that LEO is in the middle of detaining someone.  

 

Some people won't look at it like that though.  They will be upset that a guy trying to ask a question got body checked (you should have heard the crowd when he hit the fence).  

 

Bottom line though, nothing happens if my drunk buddy doesn't start the pissing match to begin with.  God he was such an idiot then (this was like 10 years ago).  

[Rockpile233]

1 minute ago, ShadyBillsFan said:

https://billswire.usatoday.com/2019/05/01/buffalo-bills-unveil-new-tailgate-policy-new-era-field/

 

Aimed at curbing large groups of fans traveling to the game via buses or limos, the Bills announced a policy that will require the large vehicles to purchase a tailgating package for its occupants and those traveling by bus or limo are no longer allowed to tailgate at their vehicle. Instead, the Bills will charge these fans to tailgate in an area designated as the “Tailgate Village.”

 

The cost for a 20-person vehicle is $300, then $600 for a 40-passenger vehicle and $900 for a 60-person vehicle. That’s $15 per passenger, and is paid in advance of a parking pass being issued. Vehicles that do not want to tailgate will have to pay $100 for a parking pass still, but are not required to purchase a tailgate package.

 

“We want to provide a safe and fun experience in the Bus and Limo Lot,” said Bills Vice President of Operations and Guest Experience, Andy Major.

 

I’d be interested to see what is included with that fee. I’m sure it’s a bad deal.

[formerlyofCtown]

4 minutes ago, Boatdrinks said:

Of course I do. This type of incident was unusual and not common at games. Of course the liberal rag is going to stoke the flames. Doesn’t happen on the reg, like the rowdy bizzaro drunken behavior at every single game. Get it ? That was the point Logic made and I concurred. You might be the one with a comprehension issue. 

Well you should probably acknoweledge that it happened and not try to say your not aware of it.  BTW youre the one with liberal idealigy.

[Juice_32]

This is interesting for a few reasons. I still think the best way to curb the problem is to win games. The Bills were so bad for so long; it’s not a surprise that it got so out of hand.

[SlimShady'sSpaceForce]

Just now, Rockpile233 said:

 

I’d be interested to see what is included with that fee. I’m sure it’s a bad deal.

a place to park you fat ass and nothing else and tailgate.

 

not that having a fat as is wrong .....  just saying 

Just now, Juice_32 said:

This is interesting for a few reasons. I still think the best way to curb the problem is to win games. The Bills were so bad for so long; it’s not a surprise that it got so out of hand.

LOL

 

Drunken fools will be drunken fools ...  Win, Lose or Draw 

[Mr. WEO]

51 minutes ago, boater said:

 They had to do something to show they actively managing the game day environment-game day experience is a huge priority for the league.

 

I thought that was when they canned Rex and Doug?

[formerlyofCtown]

2 minutes ago, Capco said:

 

And I do get that, as I noted the situation in my first sentence.  Tapping someone on the shoulder to ask a question in and of itself isn't illegal (afaik?), but like you said you have to be aware of the whole situation.  You're outstretching your arm toward a LEO in the middle of a crowded stadium lot while that LEO is in the middle of detaining someone.  

 

Some people won't look at it like that though.  They will be upset that a guy trying to ask a question got body checked (you should have heard the crowd when he hit the fence).  

 

Bottom line though, nothing happens if my drunk buddy doesn't start the pissing match to begin with.  God he was such an idiot then (this was like 10 years ago).  

The cop should probably follow the general rule when it comes to concerts and things of that nature and let it be.  Instead he decided he was gonna be Wyatt Earp over some petty BS.

[Rockpile233]

1 minute ago, ShadyBillsFan said:

a place to park you fat ass and nothing else and tailgate.

 

not that having a fat as is wrong .....  just saying 

LOL

 

Drunken fools will be drunken fools ...  Win, Lose or Draw 

I mean, once you are in this village. How many drink and food vouchers does that come with. I assume you aren’t letting grills in there.

 

This would be a serious deterrent to taking a bus.

[Bobby Hooks]

I go to about three games a year on average for about 15 years now. Last year I was in the bus lot twice. I don’t know where all of this stuff is happening. I sure do hear about it, but I rarely see anything. 

 

I saw ONE table incident a few years ago. From all accounts you’d think 30k strong do it in unison. Sure, you get the occasional knucklehead, that’s standard at a football game with 80 thousand people. 

 

Ive been to other stadiums and it’s pretty much on par outside of the stadiums that are located in the middle of the city. I haven’t seen this insanity everyone is talking about.  

 

At this point it seems more urban urban legend than reality. What’s worse is it’s our own fans too afraid to see for themselves slandering the most. 

Edited May 1, 2019 by Bobby Hooks

[Capco]

Just now, formerlyofCtown said:

The cop should probably follow the general rule when it comes to concerts and things of that nature and let it be.  Instead he decided he was gonna be Wyatt Earp over some petty BS.

 

As we were walking by, my buddy looked at the cop funny.  Basically looked him up and down, giving him a look like, "you ain't sh|t."  Didn't say anything.  Didn't make any aggressive movements.  Just a look.  That's what started the whole thing.  Cop felt he had to pull him aside and teach him a lesson.  

 

Again, once it started my buddy didn't help things at all by being himself, but yeah.  That was how it started.  

[Juice_32]

1 minute ago, ShadyBillsFan said:

 

Drunken fools will be drunken fools ...  Win, Lose or Draw 

 

I agree, but there are a percentage of people that will want to be coherent for relevant games. Obviously it will not stop it all. Winning helps.

 

From what I saw, last season was more mild. I think part of that was because people wanted to see Allen and not be blacked out for it.

[MacGyver]

1 minute ago, Capco said:

 

As we were walking by, my buddy looked at the cop funny.  Basically looked him up and down, giving him a look like, "you ain't sh|t."  Didn't say anything.  Didn't make any aggressive movements.  Just a look.  That's what started the whole thing.  Cop felt he had to pull him aside and teach him a lesson.  

 

Again, once it started my buddy didn't help things at all by being himself, but yeah.  That was how it started.  

 

Cops must be trained to be #######s.  Either that's part of the training, or that position just attracts #######s...

[YoloinOhio]

Here is what I don’t get with NFL tailgating and it’s not just the Bills. Tailgating is a huge part of college football games and I’ve been to many campuses. No incidents that I’ve ever seen. I’ve seen more incidents inside the stadiums than outside.  Why is it different with NFL? There are giant lots on campus used for tailgating and some are even free parking. A large percentage of these tailgaters never even go into the game!

Edited May 1, 2019 by YoloinOhio

[teef]

1 hour ago, Cson76 said:

All this does is eliminate people jumping off of buses onto tables.  Still drink on the way to the game, all morning until game time.  They are just moving the masses to another location.  

Maybe a tailgate village fight club?!

[Seasons1992]

10 minutes ago, Juice_32 said:

This is interesting for a few reasons. I still think the best way to curb the problem is to win games. The Bills were so bad for so long; it’s not a surprise that it got so out of hand.

 

I waited a long time to get to this thread on page 2. This is exactly it. The people I see acting terribly and giving the tailgate experience a bad public view are all pretty young and not of the "winning" generation between 1988-2000. It's solely an event to get blasted and who gives a crap about the actual game. 

 

***Please note: I've met PLENTY of great, younger fans, at Hammer's Lot and elsewhere around the stadium in the past five years and of course there's always a few duds that ruin things for the rest of us. @LeviF91 you fit into the good group along with all of @plenzmd1 's myriad kids, adopted strangers, and vagabonds. @mead107 definitely needs to clean up his act, however.........?.***

2 minutes ago, teef said:

Maybe a tailgate village fight club?!

 

Hmmmm. We should start a "Royal Rumble" thread about the 30 filthiest brawlers on TBD and who would win in the end........

[That's No Moon]

18 minutes ago, Rockpile233 said:

 

I’d be interested to see what is included with that fee. I’m sure it’s a bad deal.

Let's say you have a 60 passenger bus, they will charge you $100 for a parking pass and no tailgating.  That's $6 a head to park.  If you want to tailgate it becomes $15 a head.  So you're really only paying an additional $9.  How much value do you expect for $9???  Even if I'm interpreting that incorrectly and they are charging an additional $15 per person to tailgate, fine, what precisely do you expect for $15?  You know what most of that $15 will go toward?  Additional security for the tailgating area.  Every bit of that security is warranted based on repeated past behavior by drunken morons.

 

I have no sympathy whatsoever for the idiots in the bus lot, they brought this on themselves.  Everyone else that tailgates?  Consider this a shot fired across your collective bows.  There are plenty of places that restrict tailgating activity to specific parking lots. 

[Wsam4031]

Personally i think this is Crap. I am one of those people who do rent party busses with my friends and family and don't jump through tables. I had season tickets from 90-99 and have been a regular at game since. To me the environment hasn't changed that much from when i was a kid. Still fights, still drunk fans puking. So now for us to go get a bus with say 15 people goes from spending$75 on a ticket to the game,  $50 on the bus or limo and whatever we get, spend in food and drink to bring with us, $20 for the parking each ($300 for under 20 people) then we get told where to go and spend $20 on a beer and $10 on a hot dog. So this goes from spending $150 on the gameday experience to at least double that. I for one don't care about the drunk idiot fans let people have fun in the way they seem fit. If it doesn't affect me and they aren't breaking the law who cares. If they are breaking the law then let the police do their jobs. My favorite memories from games are from tailgating and the bills seem to be set on ruining that experience. To each their own but the bills have just lost my money

[Bobby Hooks]

2 minutes ago, That's No Moon said:

Let's say you have a 60 passenger bus, they will charge you $100 for a parking pass and no tailgating.  That's $6 a head to park.  If you want to tailgate it becomes $15 a head.  So you're really only paying an additional $9.  How much value do you expect for $9???  Even if I'm interpreting that incorrectly and they are charging an additional $15 per person to tailgate, fine, what precisely do you expect for $15?  You know what most of that $15 will go toward?  Additional security for the tailgating area.  Every bit of that security is warranted based on repeated past behavior by drunken morons.

 

I have no sympathy whatsoever for the idiots in the bus lot, they brought this on themselves.  Everyone else that tailgates?  Consider this a shot fired across your collective bows.  There are plenty of places that restrict tailgating activity to specific parking lots. 

Cool. Spoken like a true creepazoid with zero perspective. So, out of towners that pay extra to come to a game safely and support our favorite football team are “morons” and “idiots”? 

[SlimShady'sSpaceForce]

19 minutes ago, Rockpile233 said:

I mean, once you are in this village. How many drink and food vouchers does that come with. I assume you aren’t letting grills in there.

 

This would be a serious deterrent to taking a bus.

 

I put this in the shout box this AM 

 

https://www.buffalobills.com/news/bills-revamped-2019-bus-and-limo-parking-lot-policy-includes-new-fan-area-tailga?

 

Fans have the option to enhance their experience in Tailgate Village through a variety of catering options provided by Delaware North for an additional fee, or they may bring their own food and beverage items for no additional cost.

 

9 minutes ago, teef said:

Maybe a tailgate village fight club?!

 

What happens in fight club stays in fight club

[Rockpile233]

7 minutes ago, That's No Moon said:

Let's say you have a 60 passenger bus, they will charge you $100 for a parking pass and no tailgating.  That's $6 a head to park.  If you want to tailgate it becomes $15 a head.  So you're really only paying an additional $9.  How much value do you expect for $9???  Even if I'm interpreting that incorrectly and they are charging an additional $15 per person to tailgate, fine, what precisely do you expect for $15?  You know what most of that $15 will go toward?  Additional security for the tailgating area.  Every bit of that security is warranted based on repeated past behavior by drunken morons.

 

I have no sympathy whatsoever for the idiots in the bus lot, they brought this on themselves.  Everyone else that tailgates?  Consider this a shot fired across your collective bows.  There are plenty of places that restrict tailgating activity to specific parking lots. 

It’s not about what is included, it’s about not being able to bring your own food to cook and own drinks. That’s where it is a cash grab. Cooking, for me, has always been a critical feature of the tailgating experience.

 

The rules were already being enforced at the lots. Your statement is too general. People will go to the private lots. This is all money.

 

edit: if you can bring your own food and drink it’s not bad, but still can’t do the cooking I’m sure.

Edited May 1, 2019 by Rockpile233

[SlimShady'sSpaceForce]

14 minutes ago, Juice_32 said:

 

I agree, but there are a percentage of people that will want to be coherent for relevant games. Obviously it will not stop it all. Winning helps.

 

From what I saw, last season was more mild. I think part of that was because people wanted to see Allen and not be blacked out for it.

 

Oh no doubt ..  the drunken fools always find a way to ruin it for the coherent people.

 

I went to the Ravens game and the "locals" that were drunk were even more belligerent to Bills Fans because of the blowout 

[JM57]

1 minute ago, ShadyBillsFan said:

 

I put this in the shout box this AM 

 

https://www.buffalobills.com/news/bills-revamped-2019-bus-and-limo-parking-lot-policy-includes-new-fan-area-tailga?

 

Fans have the option to enhance their experience in Tailgate Village through a variety of catering options provided by Delaware North for an additional fee, or they may bring their own food and beverage items for no additional cost.

 

I didn't read the article just came to complain btw what does the wristband come with? 

[SlimShady'sSpaceForce]

2 minutes ago, JM57 said:

I didn't read the article just came to complain btw what does the wristband come with? 

 

LOL...  I'm out of state so ... I really didn't read deeply into this.   

 

All I see thus far is a FEE to park in a designated Tailgate area where Big Brother can keep a closer eye on the tailgaters

Edited May 1, 2019 by ShadyBillsFan

[wagon127]

So what happens, when I get my sandwich out of my lunch bag. Am I not allowed to eat said sandwich around my bus? How does that conversation go? Is the bus lot supposed to act like a private restaurant that doesn't allow any outside food or drinks. Hopefully they can all still use the bus bathroom.

[4_kidd_4]

21 minutes ago, teef said:

Maybe a tailgate village fight club?!

 

 Kickboxer fists of glass or gtfo. 

[dpberr]

Frankly, the Bills are doing the fans a solid by not banning alcohol outright in the Tailgatin' Village.  

 

Our merry band of binge drinkers and functional alcoholics should recognize that the team can tighten that screw if just one table dies in *the* Village this season.  

 

 

 

[JÂy RÛßeÒ]

The Bills have been looking for ways to improve gameday experience for years, and have done a fairly good job of late.  The whole table-slamming thing has been an issue with the team since my time on the Fan Advisory Board.

 

Any parking provider, be it the team or a private lot, is able to set rules for using their facilities.  Some do a better job than others at setting and enforcing rules.  Hammer happens to be the best at it, with no table slamming, no "dizzy bats", no funnels allowed.  He's expelled people.

 

And people are free use whatever transportation and parking their situation allows.

 

The Bills have put elevated platforms in the bus lots for enforcement to get a better view of what's going on - doesn't stop motivated people from doing prohibited things.  As the article stated, this didn't just come from the team but also from the bus/limo companies as well as their law enforcement, parking, and security partners.  The current situation can be dangerous for fans as well as people and property.  It also states that 6 other teams have similar set-ups so it's not just Buffalo.

 

As someone who was never a 'tailgate to the point of rediculousness' guy, I'm pretty OK with this plan.  We'll see if it helps, and what other unintended consequences it has (you know there will be many).

[JM57]

18 minutes ago, ShadyBillsFan said:

 

LOL...  I'm out of state so ... I really didn't read deeply into this.   

 

All I see thus far is a FEE to park in a designated Tailgate area where Big Brother can keep a closer eye on the tailgaters

Sorry I was being facetious with my reply

[That's No Moon]

8 minutes ago, Bobby Hooks said:

Cool. Spoken like a true creepazoid with zero perspective. So, out of towners that pay extra to come to a game safely and support our favorite football team are “morons” and “idiots”? 

Cool, spoken like a true moron with an axe to grind.  If you were a moron in the bus lot then yes I guess I meant you.  if you were just a person riding a bus, well then I guess I wasn't referring to you was I though with your response I somewhat doubt it.

 

When people REPEATEDLY act they way they have acted for a period of years this is the inevitable outcome.  I'm an out of towner too.  I pay plenty extra to attend a game and it's a heluva lot more than the shared cost of a bus ride.  I was a season ticket holder up until 1994 and the attitude towards extreme drunkenness was lax even then.  I brought some friends to a pre-season game as a 17 year old kid and one of my buddies got could not stand up drunk at a tailgate party.  He was 17 years old and obviously 17 years old.  We got into the stadium with him, walked past a phalanx of cops and stadium personnel and nobody did squat.  The guys sitting around me in the stadium were ALL season ticket holders and they would each sneak about a 12 pack of beer into the stadium inside their coats every single game. Sneak is a strong term because nobody cared.  My father tells stories of when the stadium opened people buying a seat for the keg and carrying it in.

 

Speaking of no perspective.  Go to a game somewhere else and see how tailgating is treated there.  Buffalo is essentially the Wild West in the parking lots.  Now the bus folks have to bring their own food and bev to a special area.  Well guess what, that pretty much eliminates putting some kegs and a full bar on the bus doesn't it.  Be prepared to show some ID for that beer you're carrying in as well.

[MacGyver]

25 minutes ago, Wsam4031 said:

the bills seem to be set on ruining that experience

 

It's not the Bills, it's the NFL.

[formerlyofCtown]

39 minutes ago, Capco said:

 

As we were walking by, my buddy looked at the cop funny.  Basically looked him up and down, giving him a look like, "you ain't sh|t."  Didn't say anything.  Didn't make any aggressive movements.  Just a look.  That's what started the whole thing.  Cop felt he had to pull him aside and teach him a lesson.  

 

Again, once it started my buddy didn't help things at all by being himself, but yeah.  That was how it started.  

The crowd shoulda kicked the sht outa that cop.

1 minute ago, MacGyver said:

 

It's not the Bills, it's the NFL.

Of coarse if the ruin the market then the team can be moved to a bigger one.

[Buffalo716]

Our college style tailgate IS THE REASON why peapple think we are the best fans in the NFL... it’s not our attendance numbers lmao 

 

it will really Put a blow to the Bills game day experience if the move downtown and get Rid of tailgating...

 

heck that's why Oliver is pumped to play here lol

Edited May 1, 2019 by Buffalo716

[youngjebrey]

I don’t know why the table smashing gets such a negative connotation. I can think of a lot worse cultural traditions. Running of the bulls in Spain comes to mind. 

[4_kidd_4]

8 minutes ago, Buffalo716 said:

Our college style tailgate IS THE REASON why peapple think we are the best fans in the NFL... it’s not our attendance numbers lmao 

 

it will really out a blow blow to them Bills game day experience if the move downtown and get Rid of tailgating...

 

heck that's why Oliver is pumped to play here lol

 

You, uh, tailgating right now?

[Helpmenow]

About time, we used just go to the game, forget all the other tailgating.

[LeviF]

8 minutes ago, youngjebrey said:

I don’t know why the table smashing gets such a negative connotation. I can think of a lot worse cultural traditions. Running of the bulls in Spain comes to mind. 

 

I get it when it happens in the official lots...but if private lot owners don't give a damn why should the Bills?  I've never had a bad game day experience, so I'm not sure where this idea that table slamming is somehow detrimental to the fan experience comes from.  If you don't want to see that stuff, park in a place where it's not allowed.  I love tailgating at Hammer's, but I also don't mind wandering around and seeing folks act a fool at other lots.