GreggTX Posted May 1, 2019 Share Posted May 1, 2019 Value-wise, this was our best pick of the draft. If we can get him to see more of the field, he'll not only be a starter, but he'll be a probowler. He needs to bulk up a bit, but that's the easy part. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocket94 Posted May 1, 2019 Share Posted May 1, 2019 Thats how I see it if all works out. Tremendous talent...needs a little polish. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Misterbluesky Posted May 1, 2019 Share Posted May 1, 2019 3 hours ago, GreggTX said: Value-wise, this was our best pick of the draft. If we can get him to see more of the field, he'll not only be a starter, but he'll be a probowler. He needs to bulk up a bit, but that's the easy part. Like Kiko,I think he's too high motor to put beef on...and I'm fine with that because his skill/mind set is to avoid and attack.Thankully,he not nuts like Kiko..but he plays like him.He's going to be a Bill for decade...great pick by Beane and his southeast scout.How much credit should Keith Jennings get for this selection? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted May 1, 2019 Share Posted May 1, 2019 5 hours ago, GreggTX said: Value-wise, this was our best pick of the draft. If we can get him to see more of the field, he'll not only be a starter, but he'll be a probowler. He needs to bulk up a bit, but that's the easy part. ...patience and developmental time....thought Milano was smallish even in the 5th....back under my rock on THAT one period.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LSHMEAB Posted May 1, 2019 Share Posted May 1, 2019 3 hours ago, Misterbluesky said: Like Kiko,I think he's too high motor to put beef on...and I'm fine with that because his skill/mind set is to avoid and attack.Thankully,he not nuts like Kiko..but he plays like him.He's going to be a Bill for decade...great pick by Beane and his southeast scout.How much credit should Keith Jennings get for this selection? Agreed. I think we tend to overvalue size. There are limitations(can't play LB at 190 pounds) but simply being 6-3 250 doesn't make a guy an effective football player. Joseph is 6-1 226. Zo is the same height and about 20 pounds heavier. I think Joseph can put on 10 pounds of MUSCLE, but it's his motor that makes him a really interesting prospect. I think he's gonna fit in perfectly at Zo's spot and he'll have a season to add SOME bulk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted June 11, 2019 Share Posted June 11, 2019 (edited) WELP Edited June 11, 2019 by YoloinOhio 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Who Posted June 11, 2019 Share Posted June 11, 2019 3 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: WELP Officially consigned to the outer darkness. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cripple Creek Posted June 11, 2019 Share Posted June 11, 2019 4 minutes ago, Dr. Who said: Officially consigned to the outer darkness. Yup, Sheffield, PA is the place for him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted August 9, 2019 Share Posted August 9, 2019 4 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocket94 Posted August 9, 2019 Share Posted August 9, 2019 5 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: Good. He likes wings and he can lay the lumber. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chandler#81 Posted August 9, 2019 Share Posted August 9, 2019 Thanks Yolo! I thought he showed well for the short time he was in. Surprised no one else cared to post about him.? 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocket94 Posted August 9, 2019 Share Posted August 9, 2019 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Chandler#81 said: Thanks Yolo! I thought he showed well for the short time he was in. Surprised no one else cared to post about him.? Give Joseph some time. He just effortlessly lays people out! He just needs to work on his game! I like the toughness that he brings. Edited August 9, 2019 by Rocket94 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted August 9, 2019 Share Posted August 9, 2019 Our LB depth is looking better and better. Dodson and Joseph both look solid. LB, WR, CB, OL will be very tough cuts. Whomever we cut at those positions will be picked up by another team. I'm not used to having this much depth! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sig1Hunter Posted August 9, 2019 Share Posted August 9, 2019 On 4/27/2019 at 3:11 PM, Sig1Hunter said: Buddy of mine that is a Gators season ticket holder said “he lays people out. But, he also misses a lot of tackles. All or nothing.” Guess my buddy was at least half right. Vosean was laying some people out last night! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chandler#81 Posted August 9, 2019 Share Posted August 9, 2019 17 minutes ago, Rocket94 said: Give Joseph some time. He just effortlessly lays people out! He just needs to work on his game! I follow Gator football closely here. The ‘knock’ on him during the Draft was that he was reckless and often out of position, while being an animal in hitting and tackling. To a large degree, this is accurate, but it was the designed scheme of the Gator D to play disciplined DL and let the LBs roam free to attack as they saw fit. So ‘Process education’ is what the Bills are doing with him as he’s a natural LB fit for our D. He’ll need to focus hard on STs to make the team this year because I fear he’ll be scooped up before we can sign him to PS if he’s cut. jmo. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted August 9, 2019 Share Posted August 9, 2019 9 minutes ago, Chandler#81 said: Thanks Yolo! I thought he showed well for the short time he was in. Surprised no one else cared to post about him.? I thought there was a thread about him earlier this week but couldn’t find it. In it, I mentioned that the reviews of him out of practices had not been great, that he was buried on the rep chart. I also said that he could make up ground in the preseason games if he takes advantage of his opportunities. I haven’t seen the game yet and need to wait for the replay, but it sounds like based on some of what I’ve read, he showed up last night. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chandler#81 Posted August 9, 2019 Share Posted August 9, 2019 3 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: I thought there was a thread about him earlier this week but couldn’t find it. In it, I mentioned that the reviews of him out of practices had not been great, that he was buried on the rep chart. I also said that he could make up ground in the preseason games if he takes advantage of his opportunities. I haven’t seen the game yet and need to wait for the replay, but it sounds like based on some of what I’ve read, he showed up last night. Replay tonight/tomorrow morning @ 2:00am, NFLN. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philo Posted August 9, 2019 Share Posted August 9, 2019 11 minutes ago, Chandler#81 said: I follow Gator football closely here. The ‘knock’ on him during the Draft was that he was reckless and often out of position, while being an animal in hitting and tackling. To a large degree, this is accurate, but it was the designed scheme of the Gator D to play disciplined DL and let the LBs roam free to attack as they saw fit. So ‘Process education’ is what the Bills are doing with him as he’s a natural LB fit for our D. He’ll need to focus hard on STs to make the team this year because I fear he’ll be scooped up before we can sign him to PS if he’s cut. jmo. Completely agree with your last paragraph. I think he is competing with Maurice Alexander for the final LB spot (assuming they keep 6 and Stanford and Thompson are your other depth guys) so showing up on ST is paramount. He just has so much potential in this defense to risk on waivers. EDIT: I like Dodson for PS 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magox Posted August 9, 2019 Share Posted August 9, 2019 (edited) The focus this year will be for him to be "process" oriented, to play more intelligently, better technique etc etc First year he will struggle and overthink. Once he settles down and absorbs the "process", he'll end up being a significant contributor. Edited August 9, 2019 by Magox 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bray Wyatt Posted August 9, 2019 Share Posted August 9, 2019 He also had that huge tackle on the Kick Return just a couple plays before that hit as well, if someone can find a clip of it 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocket94 Posted August 9, 2019 Share Posted August 9, 2019 11 minutes ago, Chandler#81 said: I follow Gator football closely here. The ‘knock’ on him during the Draft was that he was reckless and often out of position, while being an animal in hitting and talking. To a large degree, this is accurate, but it was the designed scheme of the Gator D to play disciplined DL and let the LBs roam free to attack as they saw fit. So ‘Process education’ is what the Bills are doing with him as he’s a natural LB fit for our D. He’ll need to focus hard on STs to make the team this year because I fear he’ll be scooped up before we can sign him to PS if he’s cut. jmo. I have read some scouting reports stating that he has a tendency to roam and even create his own zones. Joseph will benefit from strong coaching of course, and as one scout said, "You may have to staple a $50 bill on each page of his playbook to get his attention!" 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
njbuff Posted August 9, 2019 Share Posted August 9, 2019 Joseph was the most impressive player on the field last night, if you wanna take anything out of a preseason game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SWATeam Posted August 9, 2019 Share Posted August 9, 2019 1 minute ago, njbuff said: Joseph was the most impressive player on the field last night, if you wanna take anything out of a preseason game. Joseph makes amazing flash plays, but also misses assignments like crazy on D. He's strictly a ST'er to start, IMO 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocket94 Posted August 9, 2019 Share Posted August 9, 2019 10 minutes ago, SWATeam said: Joseph makes amazing flash plays, but also misses assignments like crazy on D. He's strictly a ST'er to start, IMO Another member here pointed that out. Start Joseph on special teams, then gradually give him more assignments until he has the confidence of the coaching staff. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Antonio Posted August 9, 2019 Share Posted August 9, 2019 He definitly delivered some big hits last night. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocket94 Posted August 9, 2019 Share Posted August 9, 2019 (edited) 48 minutes ago, Chandler#81 said: I follow Gator football closely here. The ‘knock’ on him during the Draft was that he was reckless and often out of position, while being an animal in hitting and tackling. To a large degree, this is accurate, but it was the designed scheme of the Gator D to play disciplined DL and let the LBs roam free to attack as they saw fit. So ‘Process education’ is what the Bills are doing with him as he’s a natural LB fit for our D. He’ll need to focus hard on STs to make the team this year because I fear he’ll be scooped up before we can sign him to PS if he’s cut. jmo. Oh yeah...he would definitely be snatched up by another team. Now that you mentioned it, most scouts did not mention the fact that the Gator Linebackers had the autonomy to act on their own. That may explain some of the recklessness. Edited August 9, 2019 by Rocket94 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alphadawg7 Posted August 9, 2019 Share Posted August 9, 2019 1 hour ago, Bray Wyatt said: He also had that huge tackle on the Kick Return just a couple plays before that hit as well, if someone can find a clip of it 1 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCBills Posted August 9, 2019 Share Posted August 9, 2019 (edited) So this guy has to make the 53, right? No way he makes it to the practice squad. He needs to be coached up, but from the looks of Thompson, our staff clearly knows what they’re doing at the LB position in terms of coaching/development. Edited August 9, 2019 by SCBills 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buffaloboyinATL Posted August 9, 2019 Share Posted August 9, 2019 18 minutes ago, SCBills said: So this guy has to make the 53, right? No way he makes it to the practice squad. He needs to be coached up, but from the looks of Thompson, our staff clearly knows what they’re doing at the LB position in terms of coaching/development. Hopefully he is helping his cause by performing on Special Teams. If he stands out there, he is harder to let go. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alphadawg7 Posted August 9, 2019 Share Posted August 9, 2019 18 minutes ago, SCBills said: So this guy has to make the 53, right? No way he makes it to the practice squad. He needs to be coached up, but from the looks of Thompson, our staff clearly knows what they’re doing at the LB position in terms of coaching/development. I thought since the night we drafted him that if he can be good on ST he will make this team. He’s trending that way now IMO, so I think he’s got a decent shot at the 53. Kid could be another Milano type find IMO in terms of value. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buffaloboyinATL Posted August 9, 2019 Share Posted August 9, 2019 2 hours ago, YoloinOhio said: That is the epitome of hitting through a guy. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted August 9, 2019 Share Posted August 9, 2019 17 minutes ago, buffaloboyinATL said: Hopefully he is helping his cause by performing on Special Teams. If he stands out there, he is harder to let go. I am thinking Joseph is a special teams monster this year......and makes the team. This is Lorax future replacement here 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeF Posted August 9, 2019 Share Posted August 9, 2019 (edited) Joseph and Johnson, Purveyors of Pain. The depth the Bills are building through the draft is impressive. Edited August 9, 2019 by JoeF 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocket94 Posted August 9, 2019 Share Posted August 9, 2019 31 minutes ago, Alphadawg7 said: I thought since the night we drafted him that if he can be good on ST he will make this team. He’s trending that way now IMO, so I think he’s got a decent shot at the 53. Kid could be another Milano type find IMO in terms of value. I agree. Joseph is extremely talented. He just needs experience and good coaching. I can't see the Bills getting rid of him. 16 minutes ago, John from Riverside said: I am thinking Joseph is a special teams monster this year......and makes the team. This is Lorax future replacement here We may be looking at a future star...not a scrub. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocket94 Posted August 9, 2019 Share Posted August 9, 2019 2 hours ago, Magox said: The focus this year will be for him to be "process" oriented, to play more intelligently, better technique etc etc First year he will struggle and overthink. Once he settles down and absorbs the "process", he'll end up being a significant contributor. I see him as a big time player...you are right on! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted August 9, 2019 Share Posted August 9, 2019 1 hour ago, Alphadawg7 said: Watched him closely last night, he flashed two or three times -- but this was the most important play for his immediate future imo. He's going to make the roster this year on his abilities on Teams above all else. And this was a beauty. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philo Posted August 9, 2019 Share Posted August 9, 2019 1 hour ago, John from Riverside said: I am thinking Joseph is a special teams monster this year......and makes the team. This is Lorax future replacement here Yup. Between Joseph and Thompson things are looking good for life after Zo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocket94 Posted August 9, 2019 Share Posted August 9, 2019 8 minutes ago, Deranged Rhino said: Watched him closely last night, he flashed two or three times -- but this was the most important play for his immediate future imo. He's going to make the roster this year on his abilities on Teams above all else. And this was a beauty. This will probably be a regular Sunday occurrence! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Helpmenow Posted August 9, 2019 Share Posted August 9, 2019 Gotta keep the guy. Let’s see other games too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCal Deek Posted August 9, 2019 Share Posted August 9, 2019 Those are the kind of hits I'd like to see from Edmonds. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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