RD 3, Pick 74: RB Devin Singletary, Florida Atlantic

[BurpleBull]

I'll take Shifty over Shady everyday.

 

Bills' have been in need of a north/south runner, who can make defenders miss, for a long time.

 

Singletary looks like the next great Bills' RB.

[akm0404]

They aren't going to move Shady.  He's an important piece of this team and they certainly don't need the immediate cash savings against the cap.

 

Shady/Gore split the primary reps 60-40, with Yeldon handling a good part of the passing situation work.

 

Mix in the rookie for a series here and there to get his feet wet while he learns to be a pro from a couple of the best to ever play.

 

Sounds...terrible?  I dunno, not seeing the problem.

[Bookie Man]

17 minutes ago, Cripple Creek said:

Inferior competition.

Forced 15 missed tackled vs #16 UCF. I agree the MAC guys aren't as good competition, but his supporting cast was on the same level. I'm not sure if he'll be able to make NFL guys miss like that, but a lot of experts believe he will be a very good pro. Only time will tell. 

[SCBills]

8 minutes ago, akm0404 said:

They aren't going to move Shady.  He's an important piece of this team and they certainly don't need the immediate cash savings against the cap.

 

Shady/Gore split the primary reps 60-40, with Yeldon handling a good part of the passing situation work.

 

Mix in the rookie for a series here and there to get his feet wet while he learns to be a pro from a couple of the best to ever play.

 

Sounds...terrible?  I dunno, not seeing the problem.

 

At any other position, sure, doesn’t sound terrible.  However, you don’t draft a RB in the 3rd to stash them for a year.   RB picks that high are plug and play.   

[Punching Bag]

12 hours ago, DC Tom said:

 

But they can't play all 7...

 

They can but it would be unusual. Two of them would be declared eligible. 

[Kelly the Dog]

The only thing the 4.66 means is if he breaks away for a 40 yard TD run, if there is a 4.4 guy chasing him stride for stride Singletray will be tackled from behind at the one, where he is a TD machine. He's extremely quick and shifty. 

 

I didn't think they would go RB until late. I think Shady is gone, unfortunately. I guess it's possible to not have any allegiance to Gore and drop him, but it's hard to see them dress 4 RBs when none really play ST. 

[akm0404]

5 minutes ago, SCBills said:

 

At any other position, sure, doesn’t sound terrible.  However, you don’t draft a RB in the 3rd to stash them for a year.   RB picks that high are plug and play.   

Says...you?

 

Ignoring the future is something the bad teams do as they're always chasing a patch to the latest hole in their swiss cheese.

 

Wonder why the Patriots selected a third round running back after drafting one in the first round last year and having another weapon at RB in James White?  Granted, that's a pretty terrible franchise with an awful track record, but...

 

I know you're firm in your beliefs, but perhaps you should reconsider.

Edited April 27, 2019 by akm0404

[flomoe]

I think it’s pretty obvious that two things happened here:

1): Beane took the top player on their board

2): This pick was for next year when Yeldon is most likely the only RB under contract

 

this was definitely a forward thinking pick

Edited April 27, 2019 by flomoe

[Toesy]

I think he means that if Singletary can play he is gonna play-there is little for the kid to learn-you can't teach anybody the RB position-either can do it now or he can't do it later.

[SCBills]

1 minute ago, akm0404 said:

Says...you?

 

Ignoring the future is something the bad teams do as they're always chasing a patch to the latest hole in their swiss cheese.

 

Wonder why the Patriots selected a third round running back after drafting one in the first round last year and having another weapon at RB in James White?  Granted, that's a pretty terrible franchise with an awful track record, but...

 

I know you're firm in your beliefs, but perhaps you should reconsider.

 

Not everything the Patriots do is right.  It’s easy when you have the GOAT QB & HC.  

 

Most teams dont stockpile RBs and plan for the future with them.  This isn’t like drafting a DB to replace one you might lose in FA.  RBs drafted in the 3rd Round are expected to play, not learn for a year.... especially on teams that have needs elsewhere.   

 

Ill gladly eat my words if he’s the next Shady, but the timing of this pick, after signing Gore & Yeldon, is strange, that’s all.  

[C.Biscuit97]

5 minutes ago, akm0404 said:

Says...you?

 

Ignoring the future is something the bad teams do as they're always chasing a patch to the latest hole in their swiss cheese.

 

Wonder why the Patriots selected a third round running back after drafting one in the first round last year and having another weapon at RB in James White?  Granted, that's a pretty terrible franchise with an awful track record, but...

 

I know you're firm in your beliefs, but perhaps you should reconsider.

Are you really comparing us to the Pats? 

[Lurker]

2 minutes ago, Kelly the Dog said:

 I think Shady is gone  going to be motivated

 

They're challenging him to come in prepared (not distracted like last year) and happy (getting his workout buddy Gore to be a wing man).   

 

Shady's a prideful man who really wants that gold jacket.   With a better line and a young clone of a kid trying to take snaps away from him, I suspect we'll see a lot better result than last year. 

 

Then he can ride off into FA in 2020 with his head held high and maybe a chance to snag a good buck from some playoff contender looking for a change-of-pace guy with intangibles...

[Kelly the Dog]

1 minute ago, Lurker said:

 

They're challenging him to come in prepared (not distracted like last year) and happy (getting his workout buddy Gore to be a wing man).   

 

Shady's a prideful man who really wants that gold jacket.   With a better line and a young clone of a kid trying to take snaps away from him, I suspect we'll see a lot better result than last year. 

 

Then he can ride off into FA in 2020 with his head held high and maybe a chance to snag a good buck from some playoff contender looking for a change-of-pace guy with intangibles...

I like Shady, I like that concept, but I just don't get the numbers. I suppose they figure that there will be injuries, and that some games Gore or maybe Yeldon will not dress. Maybe they bring Singletary around slowly and don't dress him for a few games, and really mostly redshirt him. Will be interesting. I want them to keep McCoy. 

[thebandit27]

Kid's running style is going to remind fans of Travis Henry. Just darn difficult to tackle with excellent vision.

[SCBills]

Just now, Kelly the Dog said:

I like Shady, I like that concept, but I just don't get the numbers. I suppose they figure that there will be injuries, and that some games Gore or maybe Yeldon will not dress. Maybe they bring Singletary around slowly and don't dress him for a few games, and really mostly redshirt him. Will be interesting. I want them to keep McCoy. 

 

Only way I see Shady traded is in a deal involving a WR or DE.   No way, with where we are with the cap, we just move him for the sake of moving him.  

[akm0404]

6 minutes ago, C.Biscuit97 said:

Are you really comparing us to the Pats? 

 

I'm using a current example to refute a blanket statement that was clearly just wrong.  One that happened literally minutes before we "threw the pick away".

[Toesy]

IMO they are doing the same thing with the RBs as with the OL-there is going to be a fierce competition to see who is there on opening day-I don't think anybody is totally locked in as a starting RB right now. 

[Pine Barrens Mafia]

15 minutes ago, Kelly the Dog said:

The only thing the 4.66 means is if he breaks away for a 40 yard TD run, if there is a 4.4 guy chasing him stride for stride Singletray will be tackled from behind at the one, where he is a TD machine. He's extremely quick and shifty. 

 

I didn't think they would go RB until late. I think Shady is gone, unfortunately. I guess it's possible to not have any allegiance to Gore and drop him, but it's hard to see them dress 4 RBs when none really play ST. 

Too much math and physics in this post.

[Protocal69]

4 hours ago, dollars 2 donuts said:

I liked what I saw in this kid before the draft and this might be a good pick.

 

However, I am pumping the brakes on the idea that a 5'-7", 3rd round draft pick who is a poor receiver is going to end Lesean McCoy's career in Buffalo.

 

I mean seriously can we at least step back and be reasonable when we say these things?  Even I thought about it briefly and then slapped myself upside the head.

Poor receiver? Show me the drops please. I’m waiting.

Edited April 27, 2019 by Protocal69

[SCBills]

2 minutes ago, Protocal69 said:

Poor receiver? Show me the drops please. I’m waiting.

 

Lol, people are just saying stuff now.   I’m perplexed by the pick but pretty soon Singletary will be a 5’2 back, who ran a 5.0/40 and was born without thumbs. 

[DuckyBoys]

He measures almost exactly the same size as Barry Sanders  I think he'll be fine and would be a nightmare behind a good line that could pull  You wont even see that guy behind his line.  They didnt use his as a receiver but he ran routes at the combine and looked smooth. 

[Punching Bag]

12 hours ago, Herc11 said:

 

Emmitt was never a fast burner back.. He had an outstanding O-line and what made Emmitt great was his longevity.

 

And his acting ability to give him a break getting a season ending injury and going back in sometimes 2 plays later.

[C.Biscuit97]

2 minutes ago, DuckyBoys said:

He measures almost exactly the same size as Barry Sanders  I think he'll be fine and would be a nightmare behind a good line that could pull  You wont even see that guy behind his line.  They didnt use his as a receiver but he ran routes at the combine and looked smooth. 

And now, he’s Barry Sanders!!! Beane is a genius. 

[Punching Bag]

12 hours ago, Tcali said:

gee i thought he looked great...

 

emmit wasnt as good as gayle sayers or OJ or Brown  ....not close 

 

Emmitt was a better actor than OJ or Brown and never got in movies.

[DuckyBoys]

1 minute ago, C.Biscuit97 said:

And now, he’s Barry Sanders!!! Beane is a genius. 

lol same size  Sanders had a 4.37 40   My point is he cant handle the punishment  Guy had a bazillion carries in college and didnt break down

[D. L. Hot-Flamethrower]

The NE Running Back model: have a diversity of options and different looks.

[FlaFitz1]

Absolutely LOVE this pick!!!

 

I watch a lot of FAU football both on TV and in person and this guy can move!!  There is a cliche about making someone miss in a phone booth but for him that's reality!!  Every team in the conference knew he was going to get that ball, get it a lot and stacked their defense to stop him but couldn't allowing him to average 6 yards a carry.  He hasn't got the fastest straight line speed but with the separation he creates by getting defenders off balance and then miss it doesn't matter.  He also isn't the biggest back but he's damn tough.  Plus big hits in spite of his 700+ carries?  They didn't happen!!!  

 

BTW his 1.74 rushing TDs per game?  Behind only Steve Owens of Oklahoma in '67, '68 and '69, Ed Marinaro of Cornell in '69, 70, and '71, and Marshall Faulk in '91, '92 and '93 oh and Faulk? 5'9" 210 - Singletary 5'7' 205

 

The one knock on "Motor" I would say is he didn't catch the ball a lot out of the back field but that was mostly because Kiffen's offense targeted him less and less each year.  Not because he couldn't catch.

 

 

[C.Biscuit97]

1 minute ago, DuckyBoys said:

lol same size  Sanders had a 4.37 40   My point is he cant handle the punishment  Guy had a bazillion carries in college and didnt break down

Haha. I still don’t like the pick because of the position and our other needs.  But I agree that his size doesn’t worry me that much since he’s compact. 

4 minutes ago, Josh "Real Deal" Allen said:

The NE Running Back model: have a diversity of options and different looks.

Now, just get Brady and Belichick.

[SCBills]

5 minutes ago, Josh "Real Deal" Allen said:

The NE Running Back model: have a diversity of options and different looks.

 

Shady/Singletary = Ankle Break Backs

 

Gore = Power Back

 

Yeldon = 3rd Down/Receiving Back

 

Ok... I’m with it.  Slowly coming around on the pick. 

[BillsfanAZ]

I am not sure why people are confused they went RB. He isnt the RB I thought they would pick.....I was thinking Bryce Love in a later round and let him sit for the season. The Bills have two RBs at the end of their great careers that wont be under contract after this season. Ford and Murphy are not players that are going to make a difference. Get a young RB into the system and let him learn while getting some snaps in relief. It woudnt surprise me if the Bills pick a RB in next years draft too.  I always think it is funny that fans watch highlights of players or watch college games and think they know more about players than NFL teams. 

[1ManRaid]

2 hours ago, Limeaid said:

After snagging 26 passes in 2016, Singletary had only nine receptions last season. 

Why risk a bad pass when the guy leads the nation in broken tackles and rushing touchdowns?  If it aint broke, don't fix it.

[RyanC883]

11 hours ago, Golden Goat said:

 

Wasn't Ivory cut?

 

we have Gore, Shady, Yeldon, and Singletary now.   Hopefully add Love as UDFA.  

[keepthefaith]

Looking at his highlight film, very much not impressed with the talent of the defenses he played against. 

[Kelly the Dog]

1 minute ago, keepthefaith said:

Looking at his highlight film, very much not impressed with the talent of the defenses he played against. 

That is my only worry, too. 

[BillsfanAZ]

11 minutes ago, keepthefaith said:

Looking at his highlight film, very much not impressed with the talent of the defenses he played against. 

You can say this for every RB not playing in the SEC. 

[dollars 2 donuts]

1 hour ago, Protocal69 said:

Poor receiver? Show me the drops please. I’m waiting.

 

Protocol in the cbs rating of him up above in this thread of the guys they had listed I believe he was the worst rated receiver.

 

it doesn’t me he has had drops and maybe doesn’t mean he is a poor receiver.  It does mean it is not a surpurlarive of his and...I kind of will take Shady McCoys receiving skills over his.

 

If he is a better running back and a better receiver than Shady please show me. I’m waiting.

[HappyDays]

5 hours ago, dollars 2 donuts said:

, I am pumping the brakes on the idea that a 5'-7", 3rd round draft pick who is a poor receiver

 

Is he a poor receiver? I know he doesn't have the receiving stats in college but he seemingly has the skill set to play a big role in our passing game.

[C.Biscuit97]

I hope I’m wrong but I would have rather had Bryce Love in the 4th.  

[OldTimer1960]

13 hours ago, starrymessenger said:

He'll be as good as his O-line. You can see the difference between his Oklahoma tape and where his O-line is more effective against lesser competition. Only thing that bothers me is the tread on his tires and the fact that he's useless in the passing game. Re tread maybe he will take after  Frank Gore. Re receiving out of the backfield we've got Yeldon. This is going to be situational backfield by committee. I think maybe Daboll makes good use of him. Measurables aren't there but the kid looks like a gamer and a football player.

I see no reason that he can’t be very effective on short swing passes or screens.  Those plays generally yield easy catches and his run skills will take over after the catch.

[dollars 2 donuts]

11 minutes ago, HappyDays said:

 

Is he a poor receiver? I know he doesn't have the receiving stats in college but he seemingly has the skill set to play a big role in our passing game.

 

Scribo linked to this early.

 

https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/news/nfl-draft-2019-running-back-rankings-lets-break-down-skills-of-top-rbs-from-elusiveness-to-contact-balance/

 

does not not mean he is poor receiver nd please see my more recent above.  He was the worst rated among that group of rookies.  Respectfully, I’m not sure he makes a great long armed target.  He he has been on the field a lot in 3 years and had 51 grabs, half of high in 1 season. 

 

my point is even though this is a guy I like and I was one of the first 8 or so posters in this thread, is that I just don’t believe Singletary spells the end of McCoy’s career in Buffalo.  

 

Edited April 27, 2019 by dollars 2 donuts