Reed83HOF Posted April 22, 2019 Share Posted April 22, 2019 (edited) https://www.rotoworld.com/football/nfl/player-news/headlines/8992506 NFL.com's Ian Rapoport reports the Raiders are considering "some sort of surprise pick" at No. 4 overall that would "necessitate absolute secrecy." Per Rapoport, a pick that "we are not expecting" seems to be in the offing. Forced to speculate on who that might be, Rapsheet mentioned LSU LB Devin White, a quarterback or offensive lineman. The Raiders, who are still looking to replace Khalil Mack, are in a defensive line-rich part of the board, but coach Jon Gruden has made it clear he is listening to no one but himself. Gruden is fast developing into the second coming of Al Davis. Edit: Seriously though sending all scouts home. I wonder if they did in fact work out a trade with ARZ to get Murray and are looking to move Carr... Edited April 22, 2019 by Reed83HOF 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wppete Posted April 22, 2019 Share Posted April 22, 2019 (edited) Edited April 22, 2019 by wppete Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridgewaycynic2013 Posted April 22, 2019 Share Posted April 22, 2019 For a surprise pick, how about a real barber to cut Mark Davis’ hair? 11 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wo-Bah Posted April 22, 2019 Share Posted April 22, 2019 4 minutes ago, Reed83HOF said: https://www.rotoworld.com/football/nfl/player-news/headlines/8992506 NFL.com's Ian Rapoport reports the Raiders are considering "some sort of surprise pick" at No. 4 overall that would "necessitate absolute secrecy." Per Rapoport, a pick that "we are not expecting" seems to be in the offing. Forced to speculate on who that might be, Rapsheet mentioned LSU LB Devin White, a quarterback or offensive lineman. The Raiders, who are still looking to replace Khalil Mack, are in a defensive line-rich part of the board, but coach Jon Gruden has made it clear he is listening to no one but himself. Gruden is fast developing into the second coming of Al Davis. Edit: Seriously though sending all scouts home. I wonder if they did in fact work out a trade with ARZ to get Murray and are looking to move Carr... Carr has been inconsistent/erratic, but he's still better than what I think Murray will be. Just my opinion. Also, as a side note, Gruden appears to be imploding the Raiders (which isn't a bad thing). 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TOboy Posted April 22, 2019 Share Posted April 22, 2019 1 minute ago, Ridgewaycynic2013 said: For a surprise pick, how about a real barber to cut Mark Davis’ hair? Then we'd miss out on countless pic and gif opportunities! 1 1 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted April 22, 2019 Share Posted April 22, 2019 I always thought Carr was way overrated. The Raiders apparently live Murray. I’m not sure that they can make it happen. My guess is that the pick is a big surprise because, Raiders. Metcalf? Hock? Wilkins? I don’t expect it to be someone that we have seen mocked that early (unless it’s a QB). 3 minutes ago, TOboy said: Then we'd miss out on countless pic and gif opportunities! 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrEpsYtown Posted April 22, 2019 Share Posted April 22, 2019 Lock or Metcalf? Maybe Jacobs? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WMDman Posted April 22, 2019 Share Posted April 22, 2019 It’ll be Kyler Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted April 22, 2019 Share Posted April 22, 2019 1 minute ago, MrEpsYtown said: Lock or Metcalf? Maybe Jacobs? Jacobs crosses my mind too 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Biscuit97 Posted April 22, 2019 Share Posted April 22, 2019 2 minutes ago, Kirby Jackson said: I always thought Carr was way overrated. The Raiders apparently live Murray. I’m not sure that they can make it happen. My guess is that the pick is a big surprise because, Raiders. Metcalf? Hock? Wilkins? I don’t expect it to be someone that we have seen mocked that early (unless it’s a QB). I agree about Carr but he has put up some numbers. With all their picks, they could have a good team if they don’t implode. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thenorthremembers Posted April 22, 2019 Share Posted April 22, 2019 (edited) Been thinking this for a few weeks. They may move up to #1 for Murray. But the one that makes the most sense to me is moving up to #2 to take Bosa, 49ers move down to #4 and take Devin White. Edited April 22, 2019 by thenorthremembers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Biscuit97 Posted April 22, 2019 Share Posted April 22, 2019 3 minutes ago, MrEpsYtown said: Lock or Metcalf? Maybe Jacobs? I’m terrified of Metcalf but him being a number 2 there could be pretty nasty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsfaninSB Posted April 22, 2019 Share Posted April 22, 2019 I would bet Metcalf if this is true. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wppete Posted April 22, 2019 Share Posted April 22, 2019 4 minutes ago, WMDman said: It’ll be Kyler I can see that happening. Trade up and get Kyler. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloHokie13 Posted April 22, 2019 Share Posted April 22, 2019 ? On 4/19/2019 at 3:45 PM, Kirby Jackson said: On 4/19/2019 at 3:59 PM, BuffaloHokie13 said: My guess is actually Mayock on this one, BTW Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted April 22, 2019 Share Posted April 22, 2019 2 minutes ago, C.Biscuit97 said: I agree about Carr but he has put up some numbers. With all their picks, they could have a good team if they don’t implode. He’s always been Tannehill(ish) to me. People think (and his numbers) are better than the player that I think he is. You could do worse than Carr but I don’t think that you can win with him. Just now, BuffaloHokie13 said: ? ? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Biscuit97 Posted April 22, 2019 Share Posted April 22, 2019 (edited) 8 minutes ago, wppete said: I can see that happening. Trade up and get Kyler. Wow, if the Cards don’t draft Murray at this point, they are the greatest poker players ever. 6 minutes ago, Kirby Jackson said: He’s always been Tannehill(ish) to me. People think (and his numbers) are better than the player that I think he is. You could do worse than Carr but I don’t think that you can win with him. ? Personally, and I know gruden doesn’t think like this, I load up on another skill player and draft a qb later in the first and give Carr one more year. Edited April 22, 2019 by C.Biscuit97 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloHokie13 Posted April 22, 2019 Share Posted April 22, 2019 3 minutes ago, Kirby Jackson said: ? Wouldn't it be so... Bortlesy? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Comebackkid Posted April 22, 2019 Share Posted April 22, 2019 Carr and draft picks to AZ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dje85 Posted April 22, 2019 Share Posted April 22, 2019 22 minutes ago, C.Biscuit97 said: I’m terrified of Metcalf but him being a number 2 there could be pretty nasty. He'd be a number three there. They signed Tyrell Williams and traded for he who shall not be named. Heck he might even be a fringe fourth wr there if they drafted him since the Raiders drafted Marcell Ateman last year. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Biscuit97 Posted April 22, 2019 Share Posted April 22, 2019 Just now, dje85 said: He'd be a number three there. They signed Tyrell Williams and traded for he who shall not be named. Heck he might even be a fringe fourth wr there if they drafted him since the Raiders drafted Marcell Ateman last year. Good call. Forgot about that. They won’t draft him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wppete Posted April 22, 2019 Share Posted April 22, 2019 (edited) Raiders Rumors: Jon Gruden Loves Kyler Murray, Not Derek Carr, Says Todd McShay https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2832514-raiders-rumors-jon-gruden-loves-kyler-murray-not-derek-carr-says-todd-mcshay "Jon Gruden loves Kyler Murray, I'm told. And does not necessarily love Derek Carr, I'm told, which is going to be the interesting thing to see," ESPN draft analyst Todd McShay said on Monday's episode of Get Up! "It may not play out in this draft, but I think at some point it's going to come to an end between Carr and Jon Gruden, from what I hear." Edited April 22, 2019 by wppete Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JerseyBills Posted April 22, 2019 Share Posted April 22, 2019 16 minutes ago, Wo-Bah said: Carr has been inconsistent/erratic, but he's still better than what I think Murray will be. Just my opinion. Also, as a side note, Gruden appears to be imploding the Raiders (which isn't a bad thing). Carr has been almost fascinating to me . He was an MVP candidate in 2016 , on a Raider team that was expected to be legit SB contenders and then suffered that horrific injury in week 16. He and the Raiders been basically all down hill since then . I guess it was the injury, I'm not sure , but I'm fascinated how much worse he has been since Week 16 of 2016. Again, a legit MVP candidate , 2 years later and alot of folks don't even consider him a Franchise QB. Very intriguing player and situation. And yes , Gruden has been cringe worthy up to this point. Just makes me appreciate McBeane that much more , seeing how bad these coaches/gm combos are working out. Think we struck gold with these 2 and they'll be in Buffalo for a long time 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
purple haze Posted April 22, 2019 Share Posted April 22, 2019 21 minutes ago, MrEpsYtown said: Lock or Metcalf? Maybe Jacobs? Haskins. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rampage Posted April 22, 2019 Share Posted April 22, 2019 Metcalf would be such a Raiders move. Great measureables, mediocre tape. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted April 22, 2019 Share Posted April 22, 2019 13 minutes ago, BuffaloHokie13 said: Wouldn't it be so... Bortlesy? I would laugh so hard. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOUSE Posted April 22, 2019 Share Posted April 22, 2019 40 years of complete nonsense. Always trying to outsmart everyone and they end up with with a pile of ***** 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridgewaycynic2013 Posted April 22, 2019 Share Posted April 22, 2019 34 minutes ago, Kirby Jackson said: ? Leave Gase and the Jets out of this. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Jokeman Posted April 22, 2019 Share Posted April 22, 2019 (edited) 46 minutes ago, WMDman said: It’ll be Kyler In a trade up? As can't see him lasting past Arizona unless they really been bluffing this whole offseason. Edited April 22, 2019 by The Jokeman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsfaninSB Posted April 22, 2019 Share Posted April 22, 2019 I just don’t see AZ giving up Murray. Not with what has been observed with Mahommes and Mayfield. And I certainly hope it does not happen. Don’t need another possible stud QB in the AFC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WMDman Posted April 22, 2019 Share Posted April 22, 2019 Just now, The Jokeman said: In a trade up? As can't see him lasting past Arizona unless they really been bluffing this whole offseason. ive never bought into az picking kyler Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billzgobowlin Posted April 22, 2019 Share Posted April 22, 2019 44 minutes ago, BillsfaninSB said: I would bet Metcalf if this is true. That is exactly who I am thinking Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dpberr Posted April 22, 2019 Share Posted April 22, 2019 One could argue their pick of Janikowski in the 1st round (17th overall) turned out alright for the Raiders. There weren't any superstars taken after him in that first round. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phxbacker Posted April 22, 2019 Share Posted April 22, 2019 Surprise pick will be Marquise Brown to pair with his cousin. They have 3 first rounders. You know that A. Brown is talking him up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrEpsYtown Posted April 22, 2019 Share Posted April 22, 2019 28 minutes ago, purple haze said: Haskins. That makes sense too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Jokeman Posted April 22, 2019 Share Posted April 22, 2019 Just now, WMDman said: ive never bought into az picking kyler To me it makes little sense as Beane might a great argument in drafting QBs, he mentioned getting a guy that can in multiple offenses as you can't guarantee your OC going to be with your team long term and to me Rosen has more flexibility in terms of offense. I'm not sold on Murray and if I were them I'd go Bosa.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kmart128 Posted April 22, 2019 Share Posted April 22, 2019 I think they could reach on Brian Burns Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Jokeman Posted April 22, 2019 Share Posted April 22, 2019 12 minutes ago, Kmart128 said: I think they could reach on Brian Burns Hard to say with Mayock but Josh Jacobs could be in the discussion too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Florida Bills Fanatic Posted April 22, 2019 Share Posted April 22, 2019 1 hour ago, Reed83HOF said: https://www.rotoworld.com/football/nfl/player-news/headlines/8992506 NFL.com's Ian Rapoport reports the Raiders are considering "some sort of surprise pick" at No. 4 overall that would "necessitate absolute secrecy." Per Rapoport, a pick that "we are not expecting" seems to be in the offing. Forced to speculate on who that might be, Rapsheet mentioned LSU LB Devin White, a quarterback or offensive lineman. The Raiders, who are still looking to replace Khalil Mack, are in a defensive line-rich part of the board, but coach Jon Gruden has made it clear he is listening to no one but himself. Gruden is fast developing into the second coming of Al Davis. Edit: Seriously though sending all scouts home. I wonder if they did in fact work out a trade with ARZ to get Murray and are looking to move Carr... It wouldn't surprise me if they replace Carr so they can make a big splash for their move to Vegas. With Chuckie, who knows for sure. I still believe that there is a good chance AZ takes Murray and trades Rosen to the Giants for their high second round pick. I've read in several different forums that AZ has been offered second round picks by a couple of different teams. But again, nobody knows for sure. That's why the televised draft is so entertaining to watch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted April 22, 2019 Share Posted April 22, 2019 1 hour ago, thenorthremembers said: Been thinking this for a few weeks. They may move up to #1 for Murray. But the one that makes the most sense to me is moving up to #2 to take Bosa, 49ers move down to #4 and take Devin White. Fred warmer and Kwon Alexander are both 3 down LBs. Give me the best DL available Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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