YoloinOhio Posted March 13, 2019 Share Posted March 13, 2019 (edited) 12 minutes ago, BarkleyForGOATBackupPT5P said: That's literally all Bell wanted. This is twice as much as the Steelers guaranteed. We're ripping him for taking this contract but the Jets got a great deal since the Steelers offer such little guarantees and Bell got a reduced contract with more guaranteed. He said a million times he wanted more guaranteed money. Steelers policy is to give guarantees only in signing bonus.. like 15M for Bell. It's more guaranteed, so he lost money but ultimately got what he really wanted. More importantly, Jets got out of this with a phenomenal contract compared to what was expected.. which ain't good. They got the best FA in the market on a great deal. At least the Dolphins are tanking. the Jets/Bills rebuild race should be fun. Praying we come out on top down the road.. and the Patriots are old and decrepit. Steelers guaranteed him 33 mill. He just didn’t like that it was all in first 2 years especially if he got injured. But Steelers are known for honoring the contract for injured players, regardless. https://www.post-gazette.com/sports/steelers/2019/03/13/le-veon-bell-jets-contract-steelers/stories/201903130074 Edited March 13, 2019 by YoloinOhio 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted March 13, 2019 Share Posted March 13, 2019 1 hour ago, dave mcbride said: Bell is an *incredible*, Marshall Faulk-level receiver. Honestly, who gives a flying eff about his financial situation? Whatever he did or didn’t do, he is gonna make far more than I’ll ever make and is set for life. All that matters is how he plays for the Jets. All the rest about contracts etc. is just noise. Who cares if he makes more than you ever will? He was a fool to sit out for a year and lose $14M. 18 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: Steelers guaranteed him 33 mill. He just didn’t like that it was all in first 2 years especially if he got injured. But Steelers are known for honoring the contract for injured players, regardless. https://www.post-gazette.com/sports/steelers/2019/03/13/le-veon-bell-jets-contract-steelers/stories/201903130074 Like I said above... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JerseyBills Posted March 13, 2019 Share Posted March 13, 2019 I wonder what Bell looks like minus the best ol in the game . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay_Fixit Posted March 13, 2019 Share Posted March 13, 2019 1 hour ago, Doc said: He wasted a year and $14M for this? He chose...poorly. I’ll take any day when we get a Last Crusade reference. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Reed83HOF Posted March 13, 2019 Share Posted March 13, 2019 3 hours ago, Scorp83 said: Yea Reed that was my original point. But screw that, here's a better one lol. It's like Mayfield & Darnold got steak & lobster...& we got really good pizza. I was sleepy and half paying attention last night, watching Bell and OBJ news and playing the PS4 . I don't think Bell is going to help the Jets that much with their OL right now - the Jets almost feel like we used to be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wayne Cubed Posted March 13, 2019 Share Posted March 13, 2019 5 minutes ago, Reed83HOF said: I was sleepy and half paying attention last night, watching Bell and OBJ news and playing the PS4 . I don't think Bell is going to help the Jets that much with their OL right now - the Jets almost feel like we used to be. Yea they really have some work to do on that OL in NY. They don't have a center at this point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
One Buffalo Posted March 13, 2019 Share Posted March 13, 2019 (edited) Edited March 13, 2019 by One Buffalo 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scorp83 Posted March 13, 2019 Share Posted March 13, 2019 12 minutes ago, Reed83HOF said: I was sleepy and half paying attention last night, watching Bell and OBJ news and playing the PS4 . I don't think Bell is going to help the Jets that much with their OL right now - the Jets almost feel like we used to be. Lol... yea... I agree. Their O-line is horrendous & I think Darnold & Bell are going to have a harder time producing this year Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCBills Posted March 13, 2019 Share Posted March 13, 2019 Two most devalued positions in the modern day NFL: LB & RB Two massive deals handed out by the Jets to... A LB & RB Jets got better. Crowder and Bellamy don't do much for me but Osemele is a nice Guard if he regains 2017 form, Bell could be a huge weapon for Darnold, and Moseley is a top 5 Linebacker. That being said, they spent a ton of money on two positions that don't move the needle as much as the others, and for their big OL acquisition, they signed a guy to $10 mil per who was good 2 years ago, and plays the most devalued position on the OL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teef Posted March 13, 2019 Share Posted March 13, 2019 6 minutes ago, ScottLaw said: The Guard from the raiders they got is among the better Guards in the league. Despite Barr going back to Minnesota, Jets have been very active and improved the team a ton. how about the bills? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave mcbride Posted March 13, 2019 Share Posted March 13, 2019 (edited) 27 minutes ago, Doc said: Who cares if he makes more than you ever will? He was a fool to sit out for a year and lose $14M. Like I said above... Why do you care? Seriously. It's not even remotely interesting whether he makes $74 million over the course of his career or $62 million. I suppose if it makes you feel smarter than Bell, then I guess there is that solace. Edited March 13, 2019 by dave mcbride 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Bing Bong Posted March 13, 2019 Share Posted March 13, 2019 50 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: Steelers guaranteed him 33 mill. He just didn’t like that it was all in first 2 years especially if he got injured. But Steelers are known for honoring the contract for injured players, regardless. https://www.post-gazette.com/sports/steelers/2019/03/13/le-veon-bell-jets-contract-steelers/stories/201903130074 Bell's stated it was 17 mil guaranteed from 1 year but whatever.. either way, he just didn't want that kind of contract. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wayne Cubed Posted March 13, 2019 Share Posted March 13, 2019 (edited) 24 minutes ago, ScottLaw said: The Guard from the raiders they got is among the better Guards in the league. Despite Barr going back to Minnesota, Jets have been very active and improved the team a ton. They needed to replace the guard position anyways. They still have holes along that line and protecting Darnold should be priority. It's nice he has weapons but Bell isn't going to fix that OL a whole lot. Edited March 13, 2019 by Wayne Cubed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dubs Posted March 13, 2019 Share Posted March 13, 2019 36 minutes ago, ScottLaw said: The Guard from the raiders they got is among the better Guards in the league. Despite Barr going back to Minnesota, Jets have been very active and improved the team a ton. Or the Jets big signings have been a guard, RB, and run stopping LB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted March 13, 2019 Share Posted March 13, 2019 21 minutes ago, dave mcbride said: Why do you care? Seriously. It's not even remotely interesting whether he makes $74 million over the course of his career or $62 million. I suppose if it makes you feel smarter than Bell, then I guess there is that solace. Why do you think I care if you find it interesting or not? I do find it interesting that he took a gamble and lost $14M. And if he were honest with himself, he'd say the same thing. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Man with No Name Posted March 13, 2019 Share Posted March 13, 2019 (edited) I feel for Bell. It was always going to be difficult to recoup that 14 million, and I hope his agent was honest about that. I hope that he did this as much out of principle as he did for money. It really isn't right that a premier player in a position that ages out of their prime by around 28 is handcuffed to a rookie contract on top of the possibility of multiple franchise tags almost entirely through their prime, killing chances of ever getting a long term, big $$$ contract. The players need to stand up for themselves in the next collective bargaining go-around. Edited March 13, 2019 by Man with No Name grammar/spelling Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted March 13, 2019 Share Posted March 13, 2019 53 minutes ago, BarkleyForGOATBackupPT5P said: Bell's stated it was 17 mil guaranteed from 1 year but whatever.. either way, he just didn't want that kind of contract. I trust Ed Bouchette to get the details right on anything Steelers related - it would not have been printed in the PPG if not fact checked (I’ve seen it elsewhere too) but there was a lot of spin going around from both sides last summer - and both he and AB didn’t like how the Steelers do contracts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted March 13, 2019 Share Posted March 13, 2019 1 hour ago, teef said: how about the bills? No answer yet? Ah, well. Trolls gonna troll I suppose Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teef Posted March 13, 2019 Share Posted March 13, 2019 3 minutes ago, Joe in Winslow said: No answer yet? Ah, well. Trolls gonna troll I suppose i assume he got caught up with work, but i'm not sure. he won't let us know anything about him. age, work, family, etc. we just don't know what makes scotty tick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bing Bong Posted March 13, 2019 Share Posted March 13, 2019 (edited) 34 minutes ago, Man with No Name said: I feel for Bell. It was always going to be difficult to recoup that 14 million, and I hope his agent was honest about that. I hope that he did this as much out of principle as he did for money. It really isn't right that a premier player in a position that ages out of their prime by around 28 is handcuffed to a rookie contract on top of the possibility of multiple franchise tags almost entirely through their prime, killing chances of ever getting a long term, big $$$ contract. The players need to stand up for themselves in the next collective bargaining go-around. This article is a pretty good feel good piece. https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.theringer.com/platform/amp/nfl/2019/3/13/18263367/leveon-bell-new-york-jets-gamble-new-contract-steelers-holdout Tldr: he got what he wanted. And he will be ridiculed for not getting all the money he could have. But he burned his own money willingly and did it for a reason. It's his money to earn and lose. Really no reason for ripping him over what any financial advisor will recommend to someone in a very precarious profession. Sorry Bell is fiscally responsible. Or that that seems to irk people for some dumb reason. I see zero character problems with what went down. How many rookie holdouts do we see over the most frivolous things? Like Joey Bosa with the Chargers. This held much more weight Edited March 13, 2019 by BarkleyForGOATBackupPT5P 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted March 13, 2019 Share Posted March 13, 2019 1 hour ago, ScottLaw said: The Guard from the raiders they got is among the better Guards in the league. Despite Barr going back to Minnesota, Jets have been very active and improved the team a ton. Well seeing as how they suck I certainly hope so? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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formerlyofCtown Posted March 13, 2019 Share Posted March 13, 2019 11 hours ago, Bubba Gump said: We only paid 8 million less for a center Who is their center? Have to imagine they draft Bradbury. 45 minutes ago, Man with No Name said: I feel for Bell. It was always going to be difficult to recoup that 14 million, and I hope his agent was honest about that. I hope that he did this as much out of principle as he did for money. It really isn't right that a premier player in a position that ages out of their prime by around 28 is handcuffed to a rookie contract on top of the possibility of multiple franchise tags almost entirely through their prime, killing chances of ever getting a long term, big $$$ contract. The players need to stand up for themselves in the next collective bargaining go-around. Yes I feel bad for a guy that is going to make 52mil for 4 years of work.? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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/dev/null Posted March 13, 2019 Share Posted March 13, 2019 (edited) 7 hours ago, BillsVet said: I take it Joe and dev/null aren't fully functional anymore. Sad. I've heard there's medication for those sorts of problems. fully functional, and programmed in multiple techniques Edited March 13, 2019 by /dev/null 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PrimeTime101 Posted March 13, 2019 Share Posted March 13, 2019 another reason to get Ed Oliver round 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted March 13, 2019 Share Posted March 13, 2019 6 minutes ago, PrimeTime101 said: another reason to get Ed Oliver round 1 Every time i do a mock draft, if Oliver isn’t there at 9 I curse out loud and start over 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PrimeTime101 Posted March 13, 2019 Share Posted March 13, 2019 25 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: Every time i do a mock draft, if Oliver isn’t there at 9 I curse out loud and start over Why because you want a WR/OL guy? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted March 13, 2019 Share Posted March 13, 2019 33 minutes ago, PrimeTime101 said: Why because you want a WR/OL guy? No because I won’t do a mock draft without him in it 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted March 13, 2019 Share Posted March 13, 2019 1 hour ago, /dev/null said: fully functional, and programmed in multiple techniques Owned Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted March 13, 2019 Share Posted March 13, 2019 2 hours ago, /dev/null said: fully functional, and programmed in multiple techniques Data? That you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iron Maiden Posted March 14, 2019 Share Posted March 14, 2019 12 hours ago, Stank_Nasty said: Have you paid attention to the production of anyone that has ran behind the Steelers line over the last 4-5 years? I’m not trying to be a jerk I’m just asking. An over the hill deangelo Williams was resurrected behind it. A couple years later Conner produced big time. When he goes down a mid round rookie steps in a rushes for 130 in a game last year. Bell isn’t gonna be the same back without it. He’s very good. I’m never happen when a talented player is landed by a rival. But the jets line isn’t in the same stratosphere as the Steelers. My point is he might not the Bell we saw in Pittsburgh, but he is a major improvement on I. Crowell....or C. West etc....by reading some of the comments, you'd think a back like Bell is easily found...he's good...really good... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBill Posted March 14, 2019 Share Posted March 14, 2019 20 hours ago, thunderingsquid said: The Jets will be in cap hell for a long time. Feels good. I’ve not seen the numbers but I really hope this is the truth. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Virgil Posted March 14, 2019 Share Posted March 14, 2019 2 hours ago, YoloinOhio said: No because I won’t do a mock draft without him in it With the QB's moving up the draft board, would you rather Oliver at 9 or Josh Allen at 5 (trade up using our 3rd) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted March 14, 2019 Share Posted March 14, 2019 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Virgil said: With the QB's moving up the draft board, would you rather Oliver at 9 or Josh Allen at 5 (trade up using our 3rd) I would stay at 9 and take Oliver. My man is the next Aaron Donald. He would launch this defense into the next level Edited March 14, 2019 by YoloinOhio Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bills Survivor Posted March 14, 2019 Share Posted March 14, 2019 ***** the Jets. This is a good pickup for them and will be massively beneficial to Darnold. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bing Bong Posted March 14, 2019 Share Posted March 14, 2019 (edited) 10 hours ago, YoloinOhio said: Does that necessarily make it harder on the offensive line? Genuine question. Watching Bell run seems like the DL have to stay very disciplined and see where the gaps are growing.. looks like it has an element of pass blocking to it. I just watched a video analysis of his running style in a Steelers Bills game. He obviously hits the hole hard when he has it. But he had a lot of chunk yardage plays where he intentionally lets the protection break down while he pivots to a good spot to counter over aggressive defenders. Be interesting how his style works with a crap OL. He obviously benefits as much as anyone from a good push. But it'd be scary if he's more independent from weak OL play than most RBs. Edited March 14, 2019 by BarkleyForGOATBackupPT5P 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Barbarian Posted March 14, 2019 Share Posted March 14, 2019 Just wanted to say i was right when i said bell wouldn't come close to 15 million let alone 20. Narcissism cost him 14.5 last year that he will never recoup. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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