MAJBobby Posted March 13, 2019 Author Share Posted March 13, 2019 1 minute ago, BillsFan17 said: Not a real source. I find it hard to believe that the Bills linked to AB, Bell, and ODB getting leaked, but nothing about Clowney. OBJ stuff happened Last week. And it was reported when Today??? I get it I am taking the source with a grain of salt as well. But it is out there let’s see if it has legs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted March 13, 2019 Share Posted March 13, 2019 1 minute ago, Kirby Jackson said: I’m not a believer in the source but I’ll play. How about a swap of 1’s (the equivalent of pick 32) and a 4th? Given this draft class, the loss of an extra pick and his cap cost....I would pass and take my chances on a young, cheap stud at #9 while trusting in our scouts. Grow with the young nucleus. But maybe that’s just me. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay_Fixit Posted March 13, 2019 Share Posted March 13, 2019 28 minutes ago, Andy1 said: I’m concerned we’d get a Mario Williams performance out of Clowney. I think I’d rather draft a young and hungry DT at 9. Nothing stopping the Bills from drafting a DT at 9 and getting Clowney. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted March 13, 2019 Share Posted March 13, 2019 3 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: Mario was actually really good until the last year with Rex True, better than what I think we’d get from Clowney. I really want to like the guy, I always have. He’s from my wife’s hometown and I’ve been hearing about him since HS. While he’s extremely talented, I just don’t think he ever fully lived up to it, especially having that D and JJ Watt to draw attention. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan17 Posted March 13, 2019 Share Posted March 13, 2019 3 minutes ago, MAJBobby said: OBJ stuff happened Last week. And it was reported when Today??? I get it I am taking the source with a grain of salt as well. But it is out there let’s see if it has legs. The account has not broken anything since it was created in 2015. Not a single piece of insight or breaking information. I understand wanting this to be true, but there is zero chance no one of merit has picked this up. 6 minutes ago, SCBills said: Well, if true, it kinda just got leaked Leaked by a reputable source, not a no name on Twitter with 1,500 followers and only 23 tweets since 2015. None of which broke any Bills news. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JerseyBills Posted March 13, 2019 Share Posted March 13, 2019 Y'all came at me in the OBJ trade. I'm with Clowney all day though . We beat the Browns next year with our elite secondary Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solomon Grundy Posted March 13, 2019 Share Posted March 13, 2019 3 minutes ago, BillsFan17 said: The account has not broken anything since it was created in 2015. Not a single piece of insight or breaking information. I understand wanting this to be true, but there is zero chance no one of merit has picked this up. Man, can some of us dream??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan17 Posted March 13, 2019 Share Posted March 13, 2019 Just now, the skycap said: Man, can some of us dream??? I mean, sure, but maybe set your bar a little higher for what you allow to generate your dreams? I mean, not trying to be a d.... I do know that there are user on these boards who dont know how Twitter necessarily works. Just want to clear the air that's all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy1 Posted March 13, 2019 Share Posted March 13, 2019 6 minutes ago, Jay_Fixit said: Nothing stopping the Bills from drafting a DT at 9 and getting Clowney. Sign me up! Upon further review, I’ll take Clowney as long as we get/keep a 1st rd pick. He’s 26 and should have several productive years left. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted March 13, 2019 Share Posted March 13, 2019 8 minutes ago, Augie said: Given this draft class, the loss of an extra pick and his cap cost....I would pass and take my chances on a young, cheap stud at #9 while trusting in our scouts. Grow with the young nucleus. But maybe that’s just me. Personally, I have no issue giving up the 4th. The Bills have 10 picks and probably don’t have 10 roster spots. If they go to 23 they will have a chance to get Noah Fant or maybe even Hockenson or Wilkins. I’d rather have Clowney (and his salary) + Fant over Ferrell (for example) + a 4th. The money is irrelevant to the Bills. They have plenty now and lots moving forward. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solomon Grundy Posted March 13, 2019 Share Posted March 13, 2019 I'm just sayin 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted March 13, 2019 Share Posted March 13, 2019 (edited) 7 minutes ago, Kirby Jackson said: Personally, I have no issue giving up the 4th. The Bills have 10 picks and probably don’t have 10 roster spots. If they go to 23 they will have a chance to get Noah Fant or maybe even Hockenson or Wilkins. I’d rather have Clowney (and his salary) + Fant over Ferrell (for example) + a 4th. The money is irrelevant to the Bills. They have plenty now and lots moving forward. ‘That same money could get you a quality RT, for example. It’s not MY money, I’m ALL FOR spending it, but it’s a matter of the best use. Part of it may be me having hoped to see so much more out of Clowney, and part what else could you do. This draft is so deep in DL, he loses some value as you can get cheaper, younger options and spend more FA money where you need it. I’m not married to either approach, but I have reservations. Plus, that 4th has real value if, say, you want to move up in the 2nd for a guy you love. Edited March 13, 2019 by Augie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
formerlyofCtown Posted March 13, 2019 Share Posted March 13, 2019 1 hour ago, Mat68 said: In what realm is Clowney the B side to Ansah???.? The fact that he will cost more than just a contract. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillyWhiteShows Posted March 13, 2019 Share Posted March 13, 2019 4 minutes ago, the skycap said: I'm just sayin Joe Marino shared information that’s not reliable....that is a shocker Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26TrapDraw Posted March 13, 2019 Share Posted March 13, 2019 1 hour ago, JaCrispy said: I think I just prematurely ejaculatedd I wanted to but didn't get around to it I Procrastibated. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted March 13, 2019 Share Posted March 13, 2019 1 minute ago, BillyWhiteShows said: Joe Marino shared information that’s not reliable....that is a shocker What about it isn’t reliable? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
formerlyofCtown Posted March 13, 2019 Share Posted March 13, 2019 6 minutes ago, the skycap said: I'm just sayin Maybe a smoke screen. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wppete Posted March 13, 2019 Share Posted March 13, 2019 1 hour ago, Bills of Boston said: Similar deal to Dee Ford/SF? Would that be a hypothetical barometer Send them Shaq Lawson and a 3rd. Please let this one be true!!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted March 13, 2019 Share Posted March 13, 2019 1 minute ago, Augie said: ‘That same money could get you a quality RT, for example. It’s not MY money, I’m ALL FOR spending it, but it’s a matter of the best use. Part of it may be me having hoped to see so much more out of Clowney, and part what else could you do. This draft is so deep in DL, he loses some value as you can get cheaper, younger options and spend more FA money where you need it. I’m not married to either approach, but I have reservations. The way they structured these contracts though they have plenty of flexibility. Nsekhe is going to be the RT. You’d still have the 23rd pick which is probably prime territory for an OT (Dillard, Ford, or Little). You may even have a shot at Jonah Williams there. If you are taking a pass rusher at 9 you are hoping he becomes a pro bowler. Clowney is already that. With Hughes being in the final year of his deal (and Shaq) you need a known quantity. I’m fine with Ansah too and am fine drafting one early. I just think it needs to be addressed. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wppete Posted March 13, 2019 Share Posted March 13, 2019 1 hour ago, EmotionallyUnstable said: Despite many fans focus on his pass rush ability, he is tremendously good against the run. I'd love it He is very Versatile, he can play all over the line and can also play OLB. If this happens I will go crazy. He is perfect for our Defense and he is a stud! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted March 13, 2019 Share Posted March 13, 2019 Wasn’t he part of the hit that took out Allen’s elbow in October? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Logic Posted March 13, 2019 Share Posted March 13, 2019 Between the Frank Clark talk, the Ansah visit, and Beane's unsolicited talk about Hughes and Lawson both being up at the end of this season, it's become pretty clear to me that landing a good to great edge rusher was and is a top priority for the Bills. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted March 13, 2019 Share Posted March 13, 2019 3 minutes ago, Logic said: Between the Frank Clark talk, the Ansah visit, and Beane's unsolicited talk about Hughes and Lawson both being up at the end of this season, it's become pretty clear to me that landing a good to great edge rusher was and is a top priority for the Bills. No doubt. I love it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
End The Drought Posted March 13, 2019 Share Posted March 13, 2019 6 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: Wasn’t he part of the hit that took out Allen’s elbow in October? Whitney Mercilus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mat68 Posted March 13, 2019 Share Posted March 13, 2019 (edited) From all my years of combing the web for Bills FA information, I can not remember a time where a rumor turned into anything. Either it happens and you hear about or it doesn't. Whether its PR that they tried, or trolling. TO, Mario, came out of left field. Those lasted as long as they did because that's when there were visits. Edited March 13, 2019 by Mat68 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted March 13, 2019 Share Posted March 13, 2019 7 minutes ago, Kirby Jackson said: The way they structured these contracts though they have plenty of flexibility. Nsekhe is going to be the RT. You’d still have the 23rd pick which is probably prime territory for an OT (Dillard, Ford, or Little). You may even have a shot at Jonah Williams there. If you are taking a pass rusher at 9 you are hoping he becomes a pro bowler. Clowney is already that. With Hughes being in the final year of his deal (and Shaq) you need a known quantity. I’m fine with Ansah too and am fine drafting one early. I just think it needs to be addressed. No question the pass rush needs to be addressed, even if Jerry was a little younger with another year on his contract. I see Oliver or an edge player at 9 because that’s the strength of this draft. I think we can get something “like” Clowney without paying wild dollars and giving up picks. Keep it simple. (Which means a deal will be announced by the time I wake up.) Lots of ways to go, time will tell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan17 Posted March 13, 2019 Share Posted March 13, 2019 6 minutes ago, Logic said: Between the Frank Clark talk, the Ansah visit, and Beane's unsolicited talk about Hughes and Lawson both being up at the end of this season, it's become pretty clear to me that landing a good to great edge rusher was and is a top priority for the Bills. Frank Clark talk was debunked, Ansah is in for a visit but nothing concrete. As far as Hughes/Lawson situation, might seem unsolicited to you, but in the scheme of how to spend their money... they need to look into the future and not just this year. Holes open up every year via injury, free agency, retirement, trades, etc... So to just spend like crazy this year, when you know in the back of your head you might be losing assets next year... That being said, edge rusher needed to be a priority regardless of Hughes/Lawson. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billspro Posted March 13, 2019 Share Posted March 13, 2019 1 hour ago, Inigo Montoya said: If the Bills grab either Ansah or Clowney in free agency you can go ahead and pre-order your Hockenson Bills jersey now. I would love the Bills to draft Hockenson. I’m expecting Hockenson and Tillery or Oliver and Irv Smith Jr. I will be happy either way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2020 Our Year For Sure Posted March 13, 2019 Share Posted March 13, 2019 19 minutes ago, Logic said: Between the Frank Clark talk, the Ansah visit, and Beane's unsolicited talk about Hughes and Lawson both being up at the end of this season, it's become pretty clear to me that landing a good to great edge rusher was and is a top priority for the Bills. #Logical Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted March 13, 2019 Share Posted March 13, 2019 19 minutes ago, Logic said: Between the Frank Clark talk, the Ansah visit, and Beane's unsolicited talk about Hughes and Lawson both being up at the end of this season, it's become pretty clear to me that landing a good to great edge rusher was and is a top priority for the Bills. I don't know why but I have this feeling that the Bills are going to sign a pass rusher and trade Hughes for a WR. My wild guess is Hughes+ to LA Rams for Brandin Cooks. Why? I have no idea why Cooks. But I remember there was talk the Rams wanted Hughes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RalphWilson'sNewWar Posted March 13, 2019 Share Posted March 13, 2019 (edited) 2 hours ago, C.Biscuit97 said: Seems like we always get our name mentioned in these but never actually get the player. Source seems a little questionable. and I’ll say it now. Is Clowney overrated? I mean he’s good but he was in a great situation and he’s never seems overly dominate to me. Glad you mentioned this. I’ve been thinking about Buffalo always popping up in these stories and never getting the guys since probably 2010-2011. You could say...they’ve always been bad so why wouldn’t they always be in the game for FAs. Or Agents just always using Buffalo as pawns to raise the price for their players. Or the more cynical side of me says that Buffalo Fans are suckers and rabid and will click on anything that puts the team in a positive direction. If your a twitter Reporter and need clicks or hits. No better fan base to bait than Buffalo Fans. You could say “so and so FA is getting interest from Seattle, Jacksonville and...Buffalo” and the clicks will pour in. Edited March 13, 2019 by RalphWilson'sNewWar Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreggTX Posted March 13, 2019 Share Posted March 13, 2019 Why not trade Murphy or Shaq as part of the deal. I still want Oliver in the 1st. Someone has to replace Kyle and right now, I don't think either Phillips can do that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BakersBills Posted March 13, 2019 Share Posted March 13, 2019 i think hes a bit overrated, better run defender then pass rusher. id rather have a stud pass rusher. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreggTX Posted March 13, 2019 Share Posted March 13, 2019 2 minutes ago, RalphWilson'sNewWar said: Glad you mentioned this. I’ve been thinking about Buffalo always popping up in these stories and never getting the guys since probably 2010-2011. You could say...they’ve always been bad so why wouldn’t they always be in the game for FAs. Or Agents just always using Buffalo as pawns to raise the price for their players. Or the more cynical side of me says that Buffalo Fans are suckers and rabid and will click on anything that puts the team in a positive direction. If your a twitter Reporter and need clicks or hits. No better fan base to bait than Buffalo Fans. You could say “so and so FA is getting interest from Seattle, Jacksonville and...Buffalo” and the clicks will pour in. ALL fan bases. We're no different. Besides, I'm sure nearly everyone understands it's just a rumor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RalphWilson'sNewWar Posted March 13, 2019 Share Posted March 13, 2019 4 minutes ago, GreggTX said: ALL fan bases. We're no different. Besides, I'm sure nearly everyone understands it's just a rumor. I think Buffalo fans are a cut above. We put up higher ratings for Super Bowls than the cities the teams are actually in. We score higher NHL ratings than anyone don’t we? I think we are rabid. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wppete Posted March 13, 2019 Share Posted March 13, 2019 This Clowney nonesense is fake news. Wish it was real real but it’s fake. Now where to be found anywhere. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eball Posted March 13, 2019 Share Posted March 13, 2019 2 hours ago, FluffHead said: 19 lifetime tweets from “SportsNewsBuff” Yeah but what were the other 18? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ndirish1978 Posted March 13, 2019 Share Posted March 13, 2019 (edited) I think that tweet was a connect the dots situation off of this tweet, which that troll account retweeted. The account was registered in 2015 and has only tweeted 28x, claims to be a "local news source" that doesn't have a website and send out tweets that are nonsensical like this gem "Plenty of interest in getting news out to better bargaining power." They also lifted their banner logo, which is trademarked, from Rogers channel 999, which you can find here: https://twitter.com/spn500 . That is why the banner image looks like garbage. Edited March 13, 2019 by ndirish1978 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsredneck1 Posted March 13, 2019 Share Posted March 13, 2019 (edited) 58 minutes ago, GreggTX said: Why not trade Murphy or Shaq as part of the deal. I still want Oliver in the 1st. Someone has to replace Kyle and right now, I don't think either Phillips can do that. i suggested before....send shaq to atlanta for a deal to get grady....with the caveat of trading 9 for 14 and their second. they're gonna be uptight with money if they tag grady. the bills can afford it (for one year anyways before redo or release of starr and or murphy). they then trade 14 for 16 with carolina for a 3rd. with that 16th pick they take montez sweat and with the extra 2 (hopefully early 3rd,) they grab o.ximines. that gives them an all pro dt and two possibly all pro ends for years to come....not to mention still having a 2nd, 3rd and 2 4ths to go bpa on offense or whatever. ....that could be te /wr/ ol i would suggest daniel wise dt in the 4th to replace starr in the future. that buttons up a great, young, premier defense for years to come. i love what they're doing. i just am curious as to how they settle the oline order. Edited March 13, 2019 by billsredneck1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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