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Can we please put the "Bills can't recruit FAs" narrative to bed now?


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I realize that not all of the Bills' signings have been marquee guys. Nevertheless, we're on day two of the tampering period and they've already signed quite a few helpful players. And none of them are super overpaid, either (at least not more than the usual free agency slight over-valuation). There aren't any deals in there that make your jaw drop.

So enough with the "Wah, no one wants to come to Buffalo!" narrative.

As always, money talks and B.S. walks.

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Just now, Logic said:



I realize that not all of the Bills' signings have been marquee guys. Nevertheless, we're on day two of the tampering period and they've already signed quite a few helpful players. And none of them are super overpaid, either (at least not more than the usual free agency slight over-valuation). There aren't any deals in there that make your jaw drop.

So enough with the "Wah, no one wants to come to Buffalo!" narrative.

As always, money talks and B.S. walks.

only a few bring it up....players only have so many options....Buffalo is one of them

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1 minute ago, Logic said:



I realize that not all of the Bills' signings have been marquee guys. Nevertheless, we're on day two of the tampering period and they've already signed quite a few helpful players. And none of them are super overpaid, either (at least not more than the usual free agency slight over-valuation). There aren't any deals in there that make your jaw drop.

So enough with the "Wah, no one wants to come to Buffalo!" narrative.

As always, money talks and B.S. walks.

We signed mid level FAs but a super star WR spit in our face.

 

So no.

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1 minute ago, BringBackOrton said:

We signed mid level FAs but a super star WR spit in our face.

 

So no.


The most recent reporting suggests that it was Beane that walked away due to contract demands, but ok.

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[Klemko] NFL players’ Top 5 free agency destinations, according to their agents: 1. Dallas 2. Seattle 3. Miami 4. L.A. Rams 5. Atlanta Bottom 5: 1. Buffalo 2. Oakland* 3. Cincinnati 4. Detroit 5. Cleveland *Vegas move will change things, respondents said.

We can but we have to overpay a bit. City and franchise history matter but cash talks.

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1 minute ago, Logic said:


The most recent reporting suggests that it was Beane that walked away due to contract demands, but ok.

Suuuuure.

1 minute ago, John from Riverside said:

That was not the question...the question was whether we can sign free agents which we obviously can.

The question was "can we put the narrative to rest."

 

I said no.

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While I think that narrative is a bit overblown, I also think its fair to look at the franchise's history with marquee FAs and recognize that they're really only ever landed one.

 

Today and yesterday have been exciting, but I don't see any of these guys -- perhaps with the exception of Morse (who still has injury questions) as any different from past years. I think the easy way to look at it is -- what would the LA Rams, Dallas Cowboys, Chicago Bears, etc. have offered guys like Brown or Beasley -- I think the clear answer is less. So while this season has perhaps been moving the needle in the right direction, I don't think that narrative is completely false, either.

 

 

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Just now, glazeduck said:

While I think that narrative is a bit overblown, I also think its fair to look at the franchise's history with marquee FAs and recognize that they're really only ever landed one.

 

Today and yesterday have been exciting, but I don't see any of these guys -- perhaps with the exception of Morse (who still has injury questions) as any different from past years. I think the easy way to look at it is -- what would the LA Rams, Dallas Cowboys, Chicago Bears, etc. have offered guys like Brown or Beasley -- I think the clear answer is less. So while this season has perhaps been moving the needle in the right direction, I don't think that narrative is completely false, either.

 

 

They've landed more than 1. Mario Williams type UFAs are also rare.

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4 minutes ago, Your Brown Eye said:

The signing of Cole Beasley does not "put the narrative to bed"

LOL    someone was VERY fast with Wikki  

 

Cole Dickson Beasley is an American football wide receiver for the Buffalo Bills of the National Football League. He was signed by the Cowboys as an undrafted free agent in 2012. He played college football at Southern Methodist University.

 

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Just now, BringBackOrton said:

I can barely walk outside without seeing a guy wearing a "Mitch Morse" jersey at the supermarket.


You're right. Only players whose names are on jersey are necessary to build a good team.

What a silly comment.

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The problem you are confusing yourself with is we can't sign top end talent …… Mainly because most top end talent prefer to live in a more diverse city , a legitimate QB , Sorry bills fans The NFL don't see Josh as nothing more than a blake bortles , . the cole beastys , john browns of the world is a waste of money 

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1 minute ago, liverpoolkev said:

The problem you are confusing yourself with is we can't sign top end talent …… Mainly because most top end talent prefer to live in a more diverse city , a legitimate QB , Sorry bills fans The NFL don't see Josh as nothing more than a blake bortles , . the cole beastys , john browns of the world is a waste of money 


^this guy :lol:

 

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Just now, Logic said:


You're right. Only players whose names are on jersey are necessary to build a good team.

What a silly comment.

We aren't talking about "necessary to build a good team."  A good long snapper is "necessary." That doesn't make it a marquee signing. 

 

Try to pay attention.

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11 minutes ago, Logic said:
I realize that not all of the Bills' signings have been marquee guys.

 

 

That's ? The ? Whole ? Point ?

 

I don't really care that Buffalo isn't a premier destination because you almost always overpay for "marquee" players, but you either don't understand the argument or deliberately undermined your point in the first sentence.  Did anyone really suggest that the team literally couldn't sign free agents?

 

If you really can't understand this, look into how everyone, including Antonio Brown, reacted to the possibility that he would become a Bill.

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12 minutes ago, BringBackOrton said:

We signed mid level FAs but a super star WR spit in our face.

 

So no.

 

So, who exactly said that AB spit in our face?  Seems to me that all the people involved say the Bills walked away.  The only ones saying otherwise are pundits who are making assumptions, not stating facts.  And guess what, these guy depend on clicks and hot takes to remain relevant.  Saying AB refused is a much more attractive story line for them.

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Just now, fridge said:

 

 

That's ? The ? Whole ? Point ?

 

I don't really care that Buffalo isn't a premier destination because you almost always overpay for "marquee" players, but you either don't understand the argument or deliberately undermined your point in the first sentence.  Did anyone really suggest that the team literally couldn't sign free agents?

 

If you really can't understand this, look into how everyone, including Antonio Brown, reacted to the possibility that he would become a Bill.


Nice clap emojis, I guess?

By the way, who says the Bills even WENT AFTER the marquee guys?

They've been saying all along that they were going to spend judiciously in free agency. Nothing about Beane's history or comments suggested he was going to go after the biggest fish in the pond.

Am I just supposed to assume that because he didn't sign Le'Veon Bell or Landon Collins, that it means he tried to and they both said no?

Talk about assumptions fueled by Napoleon complex.

Sheesh.

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12 minutes ago, Virgil said:

I have to say it’s nice that they are all offensive players.  Beane is true to his word and our BPA flexibility in the draft keeps getting better

Which is huge. Hughes is coming due next year, Shaq is up, Murphy is ? BPA and flexibility is what is needed. Good roster building right now imo

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1 minute ago, oldmanfan said:

To answer the question, no. Anddthe reason is there are some folks in this board who want to see the Bills fail.  And we all know it.

 

Exactly. There are people here who'd rather be miserable than see the Bills succeed.

 

 

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18 minutes ago, Logic said:



I realize that not all of the Bills' signings have been marquee guys. Nevertheless, we're on day two of the tampering period and they've already signed quite a few helpful players. And none of them are super overpaid, either (at least not more than the usual free agency slight over-valuation). There aren't any deals in there that make your jaw drop.

So enough with the "Wah, no one wants to come to Buffalo!" narrative.

As always, money talks and B.S. walks.

I'm guessing the showed these players highlights of Josh Allens last few games this past season. That would be an incentive to play here.

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14 minutes ago, Virgil said:

I have to say it’s nice that they are all offensive players.  Beane is true to his word and our BPA flexibility in the draft keeps getting better

well except for K Johnson ;)

 

But yes, it is nice to see Beane addressing our massive holes somewhat in this round of FA.  Now draft well next month, and we’re cooking with gas!

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Just now, Logic said:


Nice clap emojis, I guess?

By the way, who says the Bills even WENT AFTER the marquee guys?

They've been saying all along that they were going to spend judiciously in free agency. Nothing about Beane's history or comments suggested he was going to go after the biggest fish in the pond.

Am I just supposed to assume that because he didn't sign Le'Veon Bell or Landon Collins, that it means he tried to and they both said no?

Talk about assumptions fueled by Napoleon complex.

Sheesh.

 

They did go after a marquee guy.  His name is Mitch Morse.  They needed a C.  They went after the best one.  They landed him Day One. 

They also threw their hat in the ring to TRADE for a WR- another position of need, and pulled out when they decided he was way too expensive and a nut job.  I guess I don't really get the whole narrative.  Obviously no one really wants to live in Buffalo, but we sign guys- marquee or otherwise- all the time.  I think the argument SHOULD be sort of the converse: the Bills can't sign the free agents that they truly want.  The Bills have repeatedly proven that they can sign free agents that they want.

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