Jump to content

WR Cole Beasley (Dallas) to the Bills


Recommended Posts

35 minutes ago, Coach Tuesday said:

 

CRABTREE???

 

are you serious? hes 100000000x more dependable than beasley. he is way more consistent every year, is much better 3rd down possession guy.

 

as far as the tight end we got fleeced on there is a few more guys as well

3 hours ago, gobills1212 said:

Bolded is your problem/issue. 

You idea of 'ideal' differs from McBeane.

That is why ive already said you are better off accepting it, or finding another rooting interest bc its no fun complaining about 'your' team - is it?

Again, it is what it is. He has control of the roster of an NFL team and you dont. Id venture to guess there is a reason behind that

 

"rooting against my team" lol k. cant give any criticism to some people, I remember going through this when I said I didnt like drafting EJ

Link to comment
Share on other sites

3 minutes ago, FreeMaxB585 said:

 

are you serious? hes 100000000x more dependable than beasley. he is way more consistent every year, is much better 3rd down possession guy.

 

as far as the tight end we got fleeced on there is a few more guys as well

 

"rooting against my team" lol k. cant give any criticism to some people, I remember going through this when I said I didnt like drafting EJ

 

Crabtree is washed.  He used to be a dependable underneath guy with great hands.  Last year he lost his quicks and somehow also got the drops.  He's done, you haven't been watching.

  • Like (+1) 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites

1 hour ago, FreeMaxB585 said:

 

are you serious? hes 100000000x more dependable than beasley. he is way more consistent every year, is much better 3rd down possession guy.

 

as far as the tight end we got fleeced on there is a few more guys as well

 

"rooting against my team" lol k. cant give any criticism to some people, I remember going through this when I said I didnt like drafting EJ

Once again, simply deflecting. Instead of actually discussing the issue you have created - you respond w something thats totally irrelevant and didnt even happen on this board...

1 hour ago, Coach Tuesday said:

 

Crabtree is washed.  He used to be a dependable underneath guy with great hands.  Last year he lost his quicks and somehow also got the drops.  He's done, you haven't been watching.

Get ready for another film breakdown, a walk back. And then some other rando recivers name instead of discussing crabtree

  • Like (+1) 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites

2 hours ago, FreeMaxB585 said:

 

are you serious? hes 100000000x more dependable than beasley. he is way more consistent every year, is much better 3rd down possession guy.

 

as far as the tight end we got fleeced on there is a few more guys as well

 

"rooting against my team" lol k. cant give any criticism to some people, I remember going through this when I said I didnt like drafting EJ

 

Nah, maybe 4 or 5 years ago and I still don't think he would be100000000x better. Maybe a little bit better back then but not by much. But nah, you're wayyyyy off with that, but anyways carry on......

Edited by Patrick_Duffy
Link to comment
Share on other sites

2 hours ago, FreeMaxB585 said:

are you serious? hes 100000000x more dependable than beasley. he is way more consistent every year, is much better 3rd down possession guy.

 

 

2018 catch stats:

 

- Beasley:  65 catches on 85 targets, 74.7% catch percentage.   https://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/B/BeasCo00.htm

- Crabtree:  54 catches on 100 targets, 54% catch percentage.  https://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/C/CrabMi00.htm  

 

Might want to check those links, Bealey's catch percentage is more often than not, higher than Crabtrees...

 

  • Haha (+1) 1
  • Thank you (+1) 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites

12 minutes ago, Heitz said:

 

 

2018 catch stats:

 

- Beasley:  65 catches on 85 targets, 74.7% catch percentage.   https://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/B/BeasCo00.htm

- Crabtree:  54 catches on 100 targets, 54% catch percentage.  https://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/C/CrabMi00.htm  

 

Might want to check those links, Bealey's catch percentage is more often than not, higher than Crabtrees...

 

That pretty much settles that?

  • Like (+1) 1
  • Haha (+1) 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites

14 minutes ago, Heitz said:

 

 

2018 catch stats:

 

- Beasley:  65 catches on 85 targets, 74.7% catch percentage.   https://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/B/BeasCo00.htm

- Crabtree:  54 catches on 100 targets, 54% catch percentage.  https://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/C/CrabMi00.htm  

 

Might want to check those links, Bealey's catch percentage is more often than not, higher than Crabtrees...

 

 

Zip it with your facts. How dare you let reality get in the way of this guy's crusade.

  • Like (+1) 1
  • Haha (+1) 3
Link to comment
Share on other sites

7 hours ago, FreeMaxB585 said:

 

williams is younger and has 10000x more upside. you do realize on everyones rankings williams was #1 or 2 and beasley wasnt right? brown was further down by a bit to. williams is one of the best jump ball guys as well perfect for allen, and the upside isnt even close, brown is just another goodwin

 

You clearly dont watch Tyrell play.  NO ONE, and I mean NO ONE exaggerates Tyrell the way you are.  

 

I have watched his whole career, and you talk about him like he's the next Randy Moss while he goes out every Sunday and plays like the next guy you wont remember when he retires.  

 

Does Tyrell have upside, sure.  But he is no where near as good nor has no where near your exaggerations.  I have watched most his games and never once did I think to myself that is a game changing player and the best WR on the market.  

 

And citing some media created rankings by no means translates to how scouts, GM's and coaches rank or value these players.  So because you read a few articles by non professional football people, doesnt mean Tyrell was this or that with every team.  

7 hours ago, FreeMaxB585 said:

 

Well its clear you didnt watch much then. Hes one of the most athletic guys in the league, over the top speed and one of the best jump ball redzone guys. and yes because on that team last year they had a ton of guys who would catches including the RB........but yea all the guys who talk football for a living who all had williams as the #1-#3 best wr FA this year know nothing. All the gm's where info has leaked where he was the #1 guy they went after know nothing. Brown will be solid just think gave a little much, hes a better goodwin. williams offers the same thing just better and also has the height and has proven to be one of the besr jump ball guys

 

How many times do I have to say tho that i am FINE WITH BROWN!!! Just think a little over paid and williams is better but im fine with it. But beasley over throwing front load money at Cook, Crabtree, Tate, Roberts etc is terrible

 

Regardless if not him then get tate or Crabtree and front load them, a mediocre slot guy like beasley is useless compared to what possession guys like Crab could for for Allen.

 

Same with cook and other tight ends compared to the no name trash injury prone guy we gave that $ to. prob 3x more than any other team wouldve given him

 

This is about the worst Tyrell analysis I have ever seen written on him in terms of accurately describing him.  His mom wouldn't even be this over the top on describing him.  

 

He has upside and potential, but wow your over exaggeration is about as bad as I have seen on any player around here in quite some time.  

  • Like (+1) 2
  • Haha (+1) 1
  • Thank you (+1) 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites

6 minutes ago, akm0404 said:

“But I’ve seen Crabtree on SportsCenter more so he is clearly 10000000x better. “

 

"Sir, may I refer you to their respective rankings in Madden '17?" Case closed and good day.

  • Like (+1) 1
  • Haha (+1) 3
Link to comment
Share on other sites

18 hours ago, JoPar_v2 said:

Zip it with your facts. How dare you let reality get in the way of this guy's crusade.

 

I know, I felt bad.  But, man, we're all on the Internet - one can't spout "stats" (that are actually "feelings") and not expect us to at least try to verify...

Edited by Heitz
  • Like (+1) 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites

4 hours ago, Chandler#81 said:

 

Amanda is more articulate than freemax.

 

That kid is going to need some parents like Lori Laughlin to get into college. She also probably has parents with a matching intellect to let her write and send that.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Interestingly, I listened to the Sky Sports "Inside the Huddle" podcast this morning and one of the hosts, Jeff Reinbold, explained one of the Bills personnel team called him some time before the Super Bowl to get his take on Beasley as a person and what his character was like from a young age.

 

This one wasn't a snap reaction to missing out on other WR targets. 

 

 

  • Like (+1) 2
Link to comment
Share on other sites

20 hours ago, FreeMaxB585 said:

 

Well its clear you didnt watch much then. Hes one of the most athletic guys in the league, over the top speed and one of the best jump ball redzone guys. and yes because on that team last year they had a ton of guys who would catches including the RB........but yea all the guys who talk football for a living who all had williams as the #1-#3 best wr FA this year know nothing. All the gm's where info has leaked where he was the #1 guy they went after know nothing. Brown will be solid just think gave a little much, hes a better goodwin. williams offers the same thing just better and also has the height and has proven to be one of the besr jump ball guys

Why are the Chargers letting Williams go if if he a cross between Antonio Brown and Randy Moss?

 

Why would they let a clear first ballot hall of famer walk?

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Cole Beasley explains choosing Bills over Cowboys and Patriots, why moving to Buffalo won't be difficult

Quote

 

Cole Beasley said Thursday that his final free agency decision came down to the Buffalo Bills, New England Patriots or staying with the Cowboys.

Beasley ultimately picked the Bills and their four-year, $29 million offer, which was significantly higher than the Cowboys were willing to spend on the veteran slot receiver.

 

 

 

https://twitter.com/i/broadcasts/1OyKAyDWkQbKb

 

 

Edited by ShadyBillsFan
Link to comment
Share on other sites

2 hours ago, SoCal Deek said:

I’m not sure where the conversation has drifted off to but I really like the Beasley signing. He seems to be the kind of tough nosed slot receiver the Bills have needed. I see him doing really well here.

It got hijacked by the 1% for a while. Thanks for bringing it back on track!?

Link to comment
Share on other sites

image: http://walterfootball.com/images/fball/billsb_logo.gif

billsb_logo.gif Bills sign WRs John Brown and Cole Beasley (3 years, $27 million; 4 years, $29 million): B Grade 
The Bills signed two receivers in the same hour, so I thought I should group the two signings together, given that they are so similar. 

John Brown is the better of the two wideouts, which would explain why he's getting more money per year. Brown has a checkered injury history that nearly caused him to retire, but he was healthy last year and could finally be over his injury woes. Brown is an explosive play-maker who seems like he'd be a great fit in Buffalo's offense. Brown has great speed, which had to appeal to Buffalo, considering how strong Josh Allen's arm is. 

Cole Beasley, on the other hand, has been a very reliable slot receiver for the Cowboys over the years. He hasn't produced monster numbers, but he's a better player than the stats indicate. He'll be a highly dependable target for Allen going forward. 

I like both of these moves, and I think Buffalo deserves a "B" grade for each of them. We've seen receivers obtain colossal contracts on the market recently, and neither signing is egregious. Neither is a bargain either, but the Bills made a couple of solid moves to improve their horrendous receiving corps. 

Read more: http://walterfootball.com/freeagentsigninggrades.php#ixzz5iFuKEj8t

Read more at http://walterfootball.com/freeagentsigninggrades.php#PopJP9iFZSK9p4pd.99

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Just listened to John Murphy interview him a few minutes ago.  He did his research on Buffalo and said Buffalo fans are all in on their team.  His exact words were Bills fans are "ride or die" type fans.  I was surprised to hear him say that when Dallas wasn't in the playoffs, fans just came to "watch the show" (he said it in a negative connotation).  

 

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Yards Per Reception - NFL Since 2015 (min. 80 receptions) 1. J.J. Nelson (17.8 avg.) 2. DeSean Jackson (16.8 avg.) 3. Marquise Goodwin (16.5 avg.) 4. T.Y. Hilton (16.4 avg.) 5t. Rob Gronkowski (16.3 avg.) 5t. @TyrellWilliams_

 

we couldve even got jj nelson for super cheap and been our deep guy burner/ again brown is average but frpntloading tate and crabtree they prove to produce every year. wouldve done much more as possession guys than beasley. we arent the Pats where mediocre slot guys will always be amazing

14 hours ago, Mountain Man said:

Why are the Chargers letting Williams go if if he a cross between Antonio Brown and Randy Moss?

 

Why would they let a clear first ballot hall of famer walk?

 

whomever said hes a 1st ballot HOF'r lol. its not very complicated but let me walk you through it. they did want him back, and did make him a solid offer. they have a lot of other guys who took up their salary cap, have a good roster and other guys coming up. The raiders were 4th as far as cap space going into FA and they out bid the chargers. We know what Brown is, while Williams has the chance of being elite and has shown he can be. But yea all the other teams who targeted him as the best possible guy in this years class while brown was nowhere on their top 10's they know nothing

 

If want to say screw williams then fine. But he is better than brown, wouldve been better for Allen not just in the deep ball but as a possesion guy to while brown is a 1 tricker like goodwin. But again forget williams, crabtree and tate produce every year and are much better than beasley

 

Im sure you think we got a steal at tight end to

Edited by FreeMaxB585
Link to comment
Share on other sites

On 3/14/2019 at 3:48 PM, Heitz said:

 

 

2018 catch stats:

 

- Beasley:  65 catches on 85 targets, 74.7% catch percentage.   https://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/B/BeasCo00.htm

- Crabtree:  54 catches on 100 targets, 54% catch percentage.  https://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/C/CrabMi00.htm  

 

Might want to check those links, Bealey's catch percentage is more often than not, higher than Crabtrees...

 

 

lmao smh....... because for one once lamar jackson came in all the wr stats went down. and it shouldnt be hard for you to understand beasley caught a lot of screens and quick little outs, while crab always runs longer routes and is a move the chains 3rd down guy. and is an actual red zone threat. He also was questionable every week the hamstring and wasnt 100% and is now. Took Lamar time to do anything passing wise, beasley for that $ front loaded or not others nothing for allen opposed to someone physical who can line out wide. has shown he can get more than 5 td's in a single year.. Of course he will have a higher catch % last year when he is running 3-5 yard outs, try watching the games

 

Even front loading Tate on a 1 or 2 years would be better than beasley even if was a little more expensive, we had the money

 

 

Regardless we got fleeced on a tight end a no name injury prone bum when couldve had cook and a few other better options

8 hours ago, DisplacedBillsFan said:

Beasley chose us over the Patriots. Nice!

 

we offered him 3x the $ lol

Edited by FreeMaxB585
Link to comment
Share on other sites

8 hours ago, MAJBobby said:

image: http://walterfootball.com/images/fball/billsb_logo.gif

billsb_logo.gif Bills sign WRs John Brown and Cole Beasley (3 years, $27 million; 4 years, $29 million): B Grade 
The Bills signed two receivers in the same hour, so I thought I should group the two signings together, given that they are so similar. 

John Brown is the better of the two wideouts, which would explain why he's getting more money per year. Brown has a checkered injury history that nearly caused him to retire, but he was healthy last year and could finally be over his injury woes. Brown is an explosive play-maker who seems like he'd be a great fit in Buffalo's offense. Brown has great speed, which had to appeal to Buffalo, considering how strong Josh Allen's arm is. 

Cole Beasley, on the other hand, has been a very reliable slot receiver for the Cowboys over the years. He hasn't produced monster numbers, but he's a better player than the stats indicate. He'll be a highly dependable target for Allen going forward. 

I like both of these moves, and I think Buffalo deserves a "B" grade for each of them. We've seen receivers obtain colossal contracts on the market recently, and neither signing is egregious. Neither is a bargain either, but the Bills made a couple of solid moves to improve their horrendous receiving corps. 

Read more: http://walterfootball.com/freeagentsigninggrades.php#ixzz5iFuKEj8t

Read more at http://walterfootball.com/freeagentsigninggrades.php#PopJP9iFZSK9p4pd.99

 

HELL YEA ITS A LOCK THEY WORK OUT NOW! Walter football the same guy that said EJ was a steal and would be competing with Brady the next decade, the same guy from the write up who gave our abysmal 2015-2016 classes A's. Mario Williams the steal of the year, CJ Spiller the next barry sanders, and Benjamin the sleeper move of the off season who will have pro bowl #'s and Zay would be a 80 catch player. I feel great now

Link to comment
Share on other sites

I remember watching the week 16 game NYG v DAL, praying for a giants win so that they could finish 6-10 so we move above them in the draft....anyway, with just seconds left in a game the Cowboys did not need to win, they have a 4th and goal, Dak throws it deep in the end zone, Beasley makes an incredible effort to pull it in at full stretch but it is ruled incomplete as it appears that he is well out of bounds - until the review shows that he gets both feet in with an inch to spare. Man I was pissed off. Another draft position down the pecking order we go. ************!!!

 

Fair to say I'm a little less upset now.

 

Welcome to Buffalo, Cole!!!

 

 

Edited by SydneyBillsFan
  • Like (+1) 2
  • Awesome! (+1) 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites

8 hours ago, FreeMaxB585 said:

Yards Per Reception - NFL Since 2015 (min. 80 receptions) 1. J.J. Nelson (17.8 avg.) 2. DeSean Jackson (16.8 avg.) 3. Marquise Goodwin (16.5 avg.) 4. T.Y. Hilton (16.4 avg.) 5t. Rob Gronkowski (16.3 avg.) 5t. @TyrellWilliams_

 

we couldve even got jj nelson for super cheap and been our deep guy burner/ again brown is average but frpntloading tate and crabtree they prove to produce every year. wouldve done much more as possession guys than beasley. we arent the Pats where mediocre slot guys will always be amazing

 

whomever said hes a 1st ballot HOF'r lol. its not very complicated but let me walk you through it. they did want him back, and did make him a solid offer. they have a lot of other guys who took up their salary cap, have a good roster and other guys coming up. The raiders were 4th as far as cap space going into FA and they out bid the chargers. We know what Brown is, while Williams has the chance of being elite and has shown he can be. But yea all the other teams who targeted him as the best possible guy in this years class while brown was nowhere on their top 10's they know nothing

 

If want to say screw williams then fine. But he is better than brown, wouldve been better for Allen not just in the deep ball but as a possesion guy to while brown is a 1 tricker like goodwin. But again forget williams, crabtree and tate produce every year and are much better than beasley

 

Im sure you think we got a steal at tight end to

When you're in a hole, stop digging....

  • Like (+1) 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites

7 hours ago, Andy1 said:

I think Cole is going to quickly become a fan favorite catching 3rd down passes and moving the chains. This guy is a great addition to help Josh out when things break down. 

I think so as well. Some of Josh’s best plays were scrambling right from pressure and throwing short passes back to Ivory who had at least 40 yards of complete freedom to run before Safety’s could get an angle on him. 

Seeing the freakishly skilled moves Beasley makes on designed plays with Dallas should mandate that Dabol design these as well and not wait til Josh is forced to pull a rabbit out of his hat. Per Dak Prescott, Cole is “Always Open”.

  • Like (+1) 1
  • Awesome! (+1) 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites

×
×
  • Create New...