thebandit27 Posted March 12, 2019 Share Posted March 12, 2019 4 minutes ago, thurst44 said: They do realize that if you sign with a team, you don't use the "visitors locker room," right? No, I'm sure they have no idea of that. Seriously though, the point that I made was that it leaves a really lousy impression on visiting players. It hardly reeks of a first-class organization. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Biscuit97 Posted March 12, 2019 Share Posted March 12, 2019 5 minutes ago, BillsRdue said: Taxes too. Florida has no state tax and nice weather. CA and NY taxes are horrible. When you make that much taxes can add hundreds of thousands in lost revenue, so the "crap" cities in high tax states like Oakland and Buffalo are going to rank higher. You mean I have to pay more to live here and not get laid. Hello Miami. You can always tell the posters who couldn’t get laid in WNY. I had no problems and I’m sure most of the pro athletes didn’t either. Sorry you struggled. ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Golden Goat Posted March 12, 2019 Share Posted March 12, 2019 2 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said: It's not "anonymous sources". The sources are obviously known--they were specifically were asked to poll by SI. For obvious reasons, SI promised them anonymity. You're saying that Si fabricated the results? The entire story? I'm saying anonymous sources in any type of "journalism" is BS. Yep, that's what I'm saying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Biscuit97 Posted March 12, 2019 Share Posted March 12, 2019 14 minutes ago, Chemical said: Whats good about the weather? Honestly during most of the season, the weather isn’t too bad. The worst parts of WNY are January through April. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhyteDwarf Posted March 12, 2019 Share Posted March 12, 2019 15 minutes ago, Golden Goat said: "anonymous sources" = "we can just make ***** up and nobody will know." They don't really need to make this up though... It's 100% believable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mannc Posted March 12, 2019 Share Posted March 12, 2019 16 minutes ago, Golden Goat said: "anonymous sources" = "we can just make ***** up and nobody will know." Why would they “make **** up”? What possible motive would there be? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nelius Posted March 12, 2019 Share Posted March 12, 2019 (edited) Western NY summers are highly underrated. Gimme that over the Madmax feel of the Southwest and ridiculous butt sweat of the Southeast during the same period any day. Edited March 12, 2019 by Nelius Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Golden Goat Posted March 12, 2019 Share Posted March 12, 2019 2 minutes ago, WhyteDwarf said: They don't really need to make this up though... It's 100% believable. Two years ago, I'd agree. We have some key pieces and a lot of $$$$$$$ now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted March 12, 2019 Share Posted March 12, 2019 Woe, woe is us. We should just close up shop and let the team move. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Biscuit97 Posted March 12, 2019 Share Posted March 12, 2019 9 minutes ago, Coach Tuesday said: Taxes don't help. Minnesota is higher and I think they have been pretty good at signing FA. They also have worse weather yet people say how wonderful it is (I’ve never been). Again, this is lazy journalism. Mid we didn’t suck for 2 decades, we won’t have these problems. And for as bad as people say it is, what major FA that mattered have we missed out on? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnC Posted March 12, 2019 Share Posted March 12, 2019 If a player is on the market and doesn't want to play in Buffalo that's his prerogative. I'm not going to feel slighted about it. There is another side to this preference equation: That is the Bills aren't interested in a certain type of player and personality. If a player requires a more lively night life compared to what LA or NYC has to offer then he shouldn't come to Buffalo because it would be a bad fit. The main consideration for players is the salary. And included in that picture is a reality that Buffalo has to play a premium to get a player to come here. So what! Another factor that historically has hurt the appeal is that the Bills have been a historically losing franchise. That certainly isn't an appealing factor to a player who wants to play playoff games and more. This market has more appeal to some than to others. What's so surprising? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
purple haze Posted March 12, 2019 Share Posted March 12, 2019 17 minutes ago, Chemical said: Whats good about the weather? Same thing that's good about Green Bay weather or New England weather. Nothing. Nobody cares if you're winning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted March 12, 2019 Share Posted March 12, 2019 Ehh, it is what it is. If they start winning that will change. Players who go there love it (regardless of their agents). Overspend if necessary 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Golden Goat Posted March 12, 2019 Share Posted March 12, 2019 2 minutes ago, mannc said: Why would they “make **** up”? What possible motive would there be? Seriously? How about for the sake of getting clicks? You're aware that anonymous sources were once (not-too-long-ago) frowned upon en masse, yes? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Biscuit97 Posted March 12, 2019 Share Posted March 12, 2019 1 minute ago, Nelius said: Western NY summers are highly underrated. Gimme that over the Madmax feel of the Southwest and ridiculous butt sweat of the Southeast during the same period any day. The summers and early fall in WNY are perfect. Winters aren’t as bad as they are made out to be but they drag on forever. February and March suck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted March 12, 2019 Share Posted March 12, 2019 3 minutes ago, Golden Goat said: I'm saying anonymous sources in any type of "journalism" is BS. Yep, that's what I'm saying. You must not read a lot of journalism. Sources for obvious reasons often speak only anonymously. To you, this means the author of the article, and his editor, simply "made up" the story they are reporting in all cases? Wow. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Golden Goat Posted March 12, 2019 Share Posted March 12, 2019 2 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said: You must not read a lot of journalism. This makes... zero... sense. ? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Biscuit97 Posted March 12, 2019 Share Posted March 12, 2019 10 minutes ago, thurst44 said: They do realize that if you sign with a team, you don't use the "visitors locker room," right? But that is a player’s first visual of what the Bills offer. I like giving opponents crappy locker rooms but I do believe some organizations (I think Mavs in basketball) have great visitors locker rooms because it might help with FAs. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicken Boo Posted March 12, 2019 Share Posted March 12, 2019 9 minutes ago, Golden Goat said: Seriously? How about for the sake of getting clicks? You're aware that anonymous sources were once (not-too-long-ago) frowned upon en masse, yes? That's not true at all. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Golden Goat Posted March 12, 2019 Share Posted March 12, 2019 1 minute ago, Chicken Boo said: That's not true at all. Are you over 30? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Murica Posted March 12, 2019 Share Posted March 12, 2019 Heard the city of Philly is beautiful and the winters are impeccable. ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicken Boo Posted March 12, 2019 Share Posted March 12, 2019 9 minutes ago, Golden Goat said: Are you over 30? 35 and in a journalism related field. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mannc Posted March 12, 2019 Share Posted March 12, 2019 (edited) 31 minutes ago, SCBills said: Yup... If it's truly all about "weather and sex", places like Green Bay, Pittsburgh, Cinci etc.. are similar to Buffalo. Just have to win and everything works out. None of those places did particularly well in the survey either. Let’s face it, if this survey is any indication, weather and glamor are far and away the biggest factors. Edited March 12, 2019 by mannc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reed83HOF Posted March 12, 2019 Share Posted March 12, 2019 4 minutes ago, C.Biscuit97 said: The summers and early fall in WNY are perfect. Winters aren’t as bad as they are made out to be but they drag on forever. February and March suck. I will never forget Roscoe and his fear of snow LOL 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Golden Goat Posted March 12, 2019 Share Posted March 12, 2019 1 minute ago, Chicken Boo said: 35 and in a journalism related field. As was I in the '90s. Completely. Different. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Golden*Wheels Posted March 12, 2019 Share Posted March 12, 2019 6 minutes ago, JohnC said: If a player is on the market and doesn't want to play in Buffalo that's his prerogative. I'm not going to feel slighted about it. There is another side to this preference equation: That is the Bills aren't interested in a certain type of player and personality. If a player requires a more lively night life compared to what LA or NYC has to offer then he shouldn't come to Buffalo because it would be a bad fit. I agree with this. I've often thought Miami gets a lot of guys who I think go there for nightlife first, football second. With Buffalo, you either came to play, or came for the money. Beaches and babes weren't a factor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
34-78-83 Posted March 12, 2019 Share Posted March 12, 2019 its amazing that we've really not had issues attracting FA's then since we got an owner who doesn't use a cash to cap model. How do they explain that? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BIGBOY Posted March 12, 2019 Share Posted March 12, 2019 7 minutes ago, Nelius said: Western NY summers are highly underrated. Gimme that over the Madmax feel of the Southwest and ridiculous butt sweat of the Southeast during the same period any day. You’re right but How is this relevant to FA’s? The players are in their respective cities for a sliver of summer on the back end.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted March 12, 2019 Share Posted March 12, 2019 The rest of the worst teams list debunks the weather thing. New England got honorable mention. And jets/giants certainly should not lose the stuff to do / nightlife argument. And the Bottom 5: 1. Buffalo, 12 votes 2. Oakland, 11 3. Cincinnati, 8 4. Detroit, 7 5. Cleveland, 6 Others receiving votes: Jacksonville (5), N.Y. Giants (3), N.Y. Jets (4), Green Bay (3), New England (3), San Francisco (3), Washington (3), L.A. Chargers (2), Arizona, Denver, Minnesota, New Orleans, Tampa Bay It’s probably more about, how nice the creature comforts are, how nice facilities are, and how the public worships the players around town and the long term history of dealing with the front office. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted March 12, 2019 Share Posted March 12, 2019 3 minutes ago, Chicken Boo said: 35 and in a journalism related field. This explains much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Firebaugh Kid Posted March 12, 2019 Share Posted March 12, 2019 Ross Tucker was on WGR last night raving about Buffalo. #1 place he played out of 5 teams because of the fans and the gameday experience. (Sidebar-Reasons to keep stadium in OP) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffAlone Posted March 12, 2019 Share Posted March 12, 2019 Yet Oakland gets players to sign. Cleveland, Detroit, Buffalo all been players this year already.If it was weather related to that point, add NYJ and NYG, Green Bay, NE, and both PA teams to that list Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BIGBOY Posted March 12, 2019 Share Posted March 12, 2019 9 minutes ago, C.Biscuit97 said: Minnesota is higher and I think they have been pretty good at signing FA. They also have worse weather yet people say how wonderful it is (I’ve never been). Again, this is lazy journalism. Mid we didn’t suck for 2 decades, we won’t have these problems. And for as bad as people say it is, what major FA that mattered have we missed out on? The twin cities are a booming metropolis. This helps shapes perception. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaBillsFanSince1973 Posted March 12, 2019 Share Posted March 12, 2019 whelp, that does it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheFunPolice Posted March 12, 2019 Share Posted March 12, 2019 Weather? It's winter for maybe a month of the season. I could see if they played here in March or February. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mannc Posted March 12, 2019 Share Posted March 12, 2019 5 minutes ago, Golden Goat said: Seriously? How about for the sake of getting clicks? You're aware that anonymous sources were once (not-too-long-ago) frowned upon en masse, yes? Actually, anonymous sources are widely used and not frowned upon, so long as certain journalistic standards are maintained. The most important media stories of the past century were based in large part on anonymous sources. Are you suggesting that the anonymous agents are making stuff up about NFL teams “for clicks” or that Sports Illustrated is making everything up and there are no sources? Either way, your strange little conspiracy theory makes zero sense, but that’s America today, i guess. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Golden*Wheels Posted March 12, 2019 Share Posted March 12, 2019 2 minutes ago, TheFunPolice said: Weather? It's winter for maybe a month of the season. I could see if they played here in March or February. True but I''ve seen southerners react to weather we all think is a normal in say, March...they act like it's snowmageddon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dubs Posted March 12, 2019 Share Posted March 12, 2019 Taxes are bad. Wait till the majorities in the state legislature push through Medicare for All and the highest bracket goes up to 16%. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Like A Mofo Posted March 12, 2019 Share Posted March 12, 2019 (edited) Bottom line: Sorry to say there will be some FA's that will not want to play in a city like Buffalo. Even winning might not change this. Honestly, if I am 25 and in perfect shape and can go out and have fun with nightlife, have lots of money, some other NFL markets are more attractive. Not much will change this. And this is OK! However, there are players that would like to come here. Plenty available. And regardless, if you don't' win at the NFL draft consistently, FA does not matter all that much. Win the draft most years, players will stay, more players, not all, will start coming. The end. Edited March 12, 2019 by Like A Mofo 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted March 12, 2019 Share Posted March 12, 2019 ...special thanks to Drew Outhouse........a really honorable, standup guy........flush the Kohler............. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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