Alphadawg7 Posted March 12, 2019 Share Posted March 12, 2019 Kwon Alexander. When will the 49ers learn? They love forking over massive UNEARNED contracts to "potential" as if those players are already Elite. They did it with Kap, Jimmy G, McKinnon, and now Kwon. Somehow, the answer to the trivia question "Who is the highest paid ILB in NFL History" is at the moment Kwon Alexander. How is this possible? He is an undersized LB whose best asset is speed. Now he is coming off a torn ACL so who knows how much that impacts his speed. He has missed at least 4 games in 3 of his first 4 seasons. He has one season over 100 tackles. Since 2011, only 9 players in the NFL have over 50 missed tackles. Kwon has been in the NFL since 2015 and already has 78. NOTE: He has missed a total of 16 games and parts of others. So he amassed those 78 missed tackles in just under 3 seasons too. YET, this guy is somehow the highest paid ILB in NFL History? While everyone was freaking out while guys like this (not him specifically) were getting grossly over paid for what they have done on the field, I am thrilled we don't have a FO making frivolous moves like this. This move could work out for the 49ers, time will tell. But man its crazy to see how much some of these guys are getting paid for doing so little. I think FA is off to a very good start for the Bills, now if we can land another quality OL like Williams, Saffold, Taylor, etc we will have had a pretty good FA overall. 14 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Your Brown Eye Posted March 12, 2019 Share Posted March 12, 2019 Do you feel better? 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptnCoke11 Posted March 12, 2019 Share Posted March 12, 2019 (edited) Wait did i log into the 49ers website? To their defense we made Morse the highest paid center in the league. I think every will agree he’s not the best center in the league but he’s pretty good. Just how it goes Edited March 12, 2019 by CaptnCoke11 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Golden Goat Posted March 12, 2019 Share Posted March 12, 2019 6 minutes ago, Alphadawg7 said: This move could work out for the 49ers, time will tell. But man its crazy to see how much some of these guys are getting paid for doing so little. Exhibit B: Funchess, Devin 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Bills Fan Posted March 12, 2019 Share Posted March 12, 2019 Some teams not being smart with the cap. They are not being judicious. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JerseyBills Posted March 12, 2019 Share Posted March 12, 2019 The Landon Collins contract is nuts to me too. 10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BADOLBILZ Posted March 12, 2019 Share Posted March 12, 2019 5 minutes ago, Alphadawg7 said: Kwon Alexander. When will the 49ers learn? They love forking over massive UNEARNED contracts to "potential" as if those players are already Elite. They did it with Kap, Jimmy G, McKinnon, and now Kwon. Somehow, the answer to the trivia question "Who is the highest paid ILB in NFL History" is at the moment Kwon Alexander. How is this possible? He is an undersized LB whose best asset is speed. Now he is coming off a torn ACL so who knows how much that impacts his speed. He has missed at least 4 games in 3 of his first 4 seasons. He has one season over 100 tackles. Since 2011, only 9 players in the NFL have over 50 missed tackles. Kwon has been in the NFL since 2015 and already has 78. NOTE: He has missed a total of 16 games and parts of others. So he amassed those 78 missed tackles in just under 3 seasons too. YET, this guy is somehow the highest paid ILB in NFL History? While everyone was freaking out while guys like this (not him specifically) were getting grossly over paid for what they have done on the field, I am thrilled we don't have a FO making frivolous moves like this. This move could work out for the 49ers, time will tell. But man its crazy to see how much some of these guys are getting paid for doing so little. I think FA is off to a very good start for the Bills, now if we can land another quality OL like Williams, Saffold, Taylor, etc we will have had a pretty good FA overall. I was shocked when I saw the $13.25M AAV. Worst deal in UFA so far, IMO. Honestly I thought he was going to have to settle for a one year $4M prove-it deal. Thomas Davis gotta' be perked up over this deal. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just Joshin' Posted March 12, 2019 Share Posted March 12, 2019 Nope - Bobby Hart by a mile. 5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
offyourocker Posted March 12, 2019 Share Posted March 12, 2019 1 minute ago, JerseyBills said: The Landon Collins contract is nuts to me too. Especially considering how many good safeties are available 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobChalmers Posted March 12, 2019 Share Posted March 12, 2019 1 minute ago, JerseyBills said: The Landon Collins contract is nuts to me too. Honestly Collins was the most ridiculous of all so far - $84M/6 years for a SAFETY who's BAD IN COVERAGE???? 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ethan in Cleveland Posted March 12, 2019 Share Posted March 12, 2019 Explain Murphy, Ivory, Gore, and Bodine? All just as bad. Just now, BobChalmers said: Honestly Collins was the most ridiculous of all so far - $84M/6 years for a SAFETY who's BAD IN COVERAGE???? Even Beane wouldn;t mess up that bad... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted March 12, 2019 Share Posted March 12, 2019 12 minutes ago, Alphadawg7 said: Kwon Alexander. When will the 49ers learn? They love forking over massive UNEARNED contracts to "potential" as if those players are already Elite. They did it with Kap, Jimmy G, McKinnon, and now Kwon. Somehow, the answer to the trivia question "Who is the highest paid ILB in NFL History" is at the moment Kwon Alexander. How is this possible? He is an undersized LB whose best asset is speed. Now he is coming off a torn ACL so who knows how much that impacts his speed. He has missed at least 4 games in 3 of his first 4 seasons. He has one season over 100 tackles. Since 2011, only 9 players in the NFL have over 50 missed tackles. Kwon has been in the NFL since 2015 and already has 78. NOTE: He has missed a total of 16 games and parts of others. So he amassed those 78 missed tackles in just under 3 seasons too. YET, this guy is somehow the highest paid ILB in NFL History? While everyone was freaking out while guys like this (not him specifically) were getting grossly over paid for what they have done on the field, I am thrilled we don't have a FO making frivolous moves like this. This move could work out for the 49ers, time will tell. But man its crazy to see how much some of these guys are getting paid for doing so little. I think FA is off to a very good start for the Bills, now if we can land another quality OL like Williams, Saffold, Taylor, etc we will have had a pretty good FA overall. Actually it would be OT Bobby Hart getting 21M over three years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alphadawg7 Posted March 12, 2019 Author Share Posted March 12, 2019 1 minute ago, MAJBobby said: Actually it would be OT Bobby Hart getting 21M over three years. Another doozy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bing Bong Posted March 12, 2019 Share Posted March 12, 2019 (edited) Lol. That's how I feel about football in general.. it's a crapshoot: unless you're the Bills, Jags, Browns, Lions, Titans Edited March 12, 2019 by BarkleyForGOATBackupPT5P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alphadawg7 Posted March 12, 2019 Author Share Posted March 12, 2019 (edited) 14 minutes ago, CaptnCoke11 said: Wait did i log into the 49ers website? To their defense we made Morse the highest paid center in the league. I think every will agree he’s not the best center in the league but he’s pretty good. Just how it goes Morse: Pretty good and young Center. Kwon: Undersized, cant tackle, torn ACL. I understand FA is going to create new highest paid players at positions each year, but at least Morse earned his payday by being a pretty good center. Kwon has missed 25% of his games in his 4 years and cant tackle. Edited March 12, 2019 by Alphadawg7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay_Fixit Posted March 12, 2019 Share Posted March 12, 2019 10 minutes ago, Ethan in Portland said: Explain Murphy, Ivory, Gore, and Bodine? All just as bad. Even Beane wouldn;t mess up that bad... This post is much worse than any of those deals. 4 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BubbaT Posted March 12, 2019 Share Posted March 12, 2019 (edited) The bar for what becomes the highest paid changes every free agency period and by the time the cap gets re-set, it's not nearly as bad as you thought it would be. These teams are loaded with money. They have needs because they havent been very good, so they spend the money. I never care much if somebody gets "overpaid" if I think the player is a good player. You cant survive in a cash rich NFL as a bottom feeder all the time. Edited March 12, 2019 by BubbaT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Da webster guy Posted March 12, 2019 Share Posted March 12, 2019 Like Buddy Nix always said, everyone overpays in free agency. There are no deals to be had. I'm glad we got our guy at C. Now lets get our LT in the first and have him compete with Dawk, loser goes to the right side or in Dawk's place guard (where he was projected to play all along by most scouts) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alphadawg7 Posted March 12, 2019 Author Share Posted March 12, 2019 11 minutes ago, Ethan in Portland said: Explain Murphy, Ivory, Gore, and Bodine? All just as bad. Even Beane wouldn;t mess up that bad... Murphy had an easy out after one year and still does. Ivory, Gore and Bodine were all cheap. Ivory was also a solid contributor for us. Bodine is decent rotational guy who guy forced to start where he is not good enough to do that. None of those contracts are remotely close to as bad as the things we have seen today. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BADOLBILZ Posted March 12, 2019 Share Posted March 12, 2019 9 minutes ago, MAJBobby said: Actually it would be OT Bobby Hart getting 21M over three years. I gotta' say Kwon. $54M with $27M guaranteed.........just wow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alphadawg7 Posted March 12, 2019 Author Share Posted March 12, 2019 Just now, BADOLBILZ said: I gotta' say Kwon. $54M with $27M guaranteed.........just wow. Agreed. Hart was a doozy itself, but not like the madness of Kwon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keepthefaith Posted March 12, 2019 Share Posted March 12, 2019 21 minutes ago, Alphadawg7 said: Kwon Alexander. When will the 49ers learn? They love forking over massive UNEARNED contracts to "potential" as if those players are already Elite. They did it with Kap, Jimmy G, McKinnon, and now Kwon. Somehow, the answer to the trivia question "Who is the highest paid ILB in NFL History" is at the moment Kwon Alexander. How is this possible? He is an undersized LB whose best asset is speed. Now he is coming off a torn ACL so who knows how much that impacts his speed. He has missed at least 4 games in 3 of his first 4 seasons. He has one season over 100 tackles. Since 2011, only 9 players in the NFL have over 50 missed tackles. Kwon has been in the NFL since 2015 and already has 78. NOTE: He has missed a total of 16 games and parts of others. So he amassed those 78 missed tackles in just under 3 seasons too. YET, this guy is somehow the highest paid ILB in NFL History? While everyone was freaking out while guys like this (not him specifically) were getting grossly over paid for what they have done on the field, I am thrilled we don't have a FO making frivolous moves like this. This move could work out for the 49ers, time will tell. But man its crazy to see how much some of these guys are getting paid for doing so little. I think FA is off to a very good start for the Bills, now if we can land another quality OL like Williams, Saffold, Taylor, etc we will have had a pretty good FA overall. It is dumb but the players and agents love the contract leapfrogging that goes on every year. Gives them data and leverage for negotiations and keeps player salaries on the steady rise. It's a great gig (player or agent) if you can get it. Owners and GM's often don't look smart in the process. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted March 12, 2019 Share Posted March 12, 2019 4 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HappyDays Posted March 12, 2019 Share Posted March 12, 2019 Worst deal of the day has to be Landon Collins. I somehow missed that earlier. A safety who can't cover got $80 million? In 2019?? What happened there? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aussie Joe Posted March 12, 2019 Share Posted March 12, 2019 22 minutes ago, Da webster guy said: Like Buddy Nix always said, everyone overpays in free agency. There are no deals to be had. If you are outbidding 31 other teams for any particular players service then I think that says it all.. On another note.. interested to see what Jordan Mills gets after the Hart signing.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alphadawg7 Posted March 12, 2019 Author Share Posted March 12, 2019 22 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: I agree with this list. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ol Dirty B Posted March 12, 2019 Share Posted March 12, 2019 Just now, Alphadawg7 said: I agree with this list. I'm not sure what is so great about the gore deal... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alphadawg7 Posted March 12, 2019 Author Share Posted March 12, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, Golden Goat said: Exhibit B: Funchess, Devin While the $13M a year is crazy for him, its just a 1 year deal and Colts have so much cap room. So not a bad deal for Colts, if he plays up to it with Luck, they can resign him next year to a long term deal. He falls short, he is off the books or resigns a longer term deal for a more appropriate price. 3 minutes ago, Ol Dirty B said: I'm not sure what is so great about the gore deal... Not that its great, he's cheap value and really expect us to cut Ivory and then Gore becomes cheaper than Ivory. Maybe Gore can also help his buddy McCoy extend his career like him and play well for another year or two. Overall response to Gore deal has been positive outside this board. Not a game changing signing by any means, but I mean he is super cheap and despite his age has been solid. They are saying best deal in terms of value. Edited March 12, 2019 by Alphadawg7 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan4 Posted March 12, 2019 Share Posted March 12, 2019 This free agency tampering window has been insane! Sooo many crazy deals... There are always some head scratching contracts given out every year in free agency. But this year there just seems to be more than usual and we are not even 24hrs in yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Golden Goat Posted March 12, 2019 Share Posted March 12, 2019 7 minutes ago, Alphadawg7 said: While the $13M a year is crazy for him, its just a 1 year deal and Colts have so much cap room. So not a bad deal for Colts, if he plays up to it with Luck, they can resign him next year to a long term deal. He falls short, he is off the books or resigns a longer term deal for a more appropriate price. True. I guess I'm just mind-boggled to see a guy who led the league in drop % getting paid $13M. Hell, I could EASILY lead the league in drops, and I'd do it for $9-10M less! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alphadawg7 Posted March 12, 2019 Author Share Posted March 12, 2019 2 minutes ago, Golden Goat said: True. I guess I'm just mind-boggled to see a guy who led the league in drop % getting paid $13M. Hell, I could EASILY lead the league in drops, and I'd do it for $9-10M less! For real right! Only saving grace, and I mean only, is that its a 1 year deal and Colts have stupid amount of cap space. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan2313 Posted March 12, 2019 Share Posted March 12, 2019 Hmm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bing Bong Posted March 12, 2019 Share Posted March 12, 2019 1 hour ago, Alphadawg7 said: Agreed. Hart was a doozy itself, but not like the madness of Kwon. Haha I'm confused here. We're you hoping to get Kwon on the cheap here and are mad that the 49ers made a ludicrous offer or just annoyed that Kwon set an unreasonable market price for other linebackers you wanted? What's eating you Alpha? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billsguy Posted March 12, 2019 Share Posted March 12, 2019 2 hours ago, Ethan in Portland said: Explain Murphy, Ivory, Gore, and Bodine? All just as bad. Even Beane wouldn;t mess up that bad... Please don't challenge Beane. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ol Dirty B Posted March 12, 2019 Share Posted March 12, 2019 2 hours ago, Alphadawg7 said: Not that its great, he's cheap value and really expect us to cut Ivory and then Gore becomes cheaper than Ivory. Maybe Gore can also help his buddy McCoy extend his career like him and play well for another year or two. Overall response to Gore deal has been positive outside this board. Not a game changing signing by any means, but I mean he is super cheap and despite his age has been solid. They are saying best deal in terms of value. I know he's not expensive, but I'm going to disagree. You can take a chance on s lot of other guys that are low risk high reward... he seems like his reward is always going to be eh... he won't kill you, but he has no upside. I'm not quite sure I get the point in it. 37 minutes ago, Billsguy said: Please don't challenge Beane. Why not? I don't get what the deal is with this fanbase where you have to make them a deity. They can be good at their job and make mistakes. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Chicken Boo Posted March 12, 2019 Share Posted March 12, 2019 6 hours ago, Ol Dirty B said: I'm not sure what is so great about the gore deal... 4.6ypc last season. Despite his age, Gore is still getting it done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Senator Posted March 12, 2019 Share Posted March 12, 2019 What is this ‘Free Agency ‘ ? . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreggTX Posted March 12, 2019 Share Posted March 12, 2019 There are always so many guys with issues in FA. Injuries, character, excessive pay demands, etc. It seems Beane is willing to take a chance on guys with injury concerns over guys with character concerns like laziness. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just Joshin' Posted March 12, 2019 Share Posted March 12, 2019 2 minutes ago, GreggTX said: There are always so many guys with issues in FA. Injuries, character, excessive pay demands, etc. It seems Beane is willing to take a chance on guys with injury concerns over guys with character concerns like laziness. An injured player may recover, a lazy player stays lazy. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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