ChevyVanMiller Posted February 17, 2019 Share Posted February 17, 2019 The worm is turning. https://www.wivb.com/news/national/brothers-say-jussie-smollett-paid-them-to-participate-in-alleged-attack-source-says/1788608654?fbclid=IwAR23MwnbrFp-Sm0lU3mjFcihQT_2bp9ABtpbBXsXhWXM1tX-FozDB_x25hQ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledInIllinois Posted February 17, 2019 Share Posted February 17, 2019 1 hour ago, row_33 said: Why do they call prison the slammer? Because when the jailhouse door shuts... It slams! ???? Johnny! Tell this lovely contestant Jussie what they just won! A 3 year all inclusive stay in "The Slammer." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeGOATski Posted February 17, 2019 Share Posted February 17, 2019 3 hours ago, RaoulDuke79 said: Hate crime charges for all involved I say. For sure. What a disgrace. Can't wait to see how they try to spin this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rico Posted February 17, 2019 Share Posted February 17, 2019 The movie should be pretty good. Chadwick Boseman or Donald Glover as Jussie please. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just Joshin' Posted February 17, 2019 Share Posted February 17, 2019 4 hours ago, RaoulDuke79 said: Hate crime charges for all involved I say. Are you suggesting just Smallette or all the politicians and talking heads advancing agendas without the facts? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeGOATski Posted February 17, 2019 Share Posted February 17, 2019 50 minutes ago, Just Joshin' said: Are you suggesting just Smallette or all the politicians and talking heads advancing agendas without the facts? You've pushed agendas before... Don't be actin like you don't push agendas, bro! 1 hour ago, Rico said: The movie should be pretty good. Chadwick Boseman or Donald Glover as Jussie please. Cuba Gooding Jr has my vote. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted February 17, 2019 Share Posted February 17, 2019 3 hours ago, ExiledInIllinois said: Because when the jailhouse door shuts... It slams! ???? Johnny! Tell this lovely contestant Jussie what they just won! A 3 year all inclusive stay in "The Slammer." Seemed more sinister when they asked it to Beavis and Butthead for their backfired Scared Straight Day Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RaoulDuke79 Posted February 17, 2019 Author Share Posted February 17, 2019 (edited) 6 hours ago, Just Joshin' said: Are you suggesting just Smallette or all the politicians and talking heads advancing agendas without the facts? Not the politicians. They're just terrible opportunists who decided to try and capitalize on a bad opportunity. It is a sad state of affairs though, and is evidence of very poor judgment thay they decided to hitch their horse to this wagon when the story was so preposterous and full of holes to begin with. Edited February 17, 2019 by RaoulDuke79 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo716 Posted February 17, 2019 Share Posted February 17, 2019 This is the America we live in... sad... Race relations since Barack Obama... our first black president , have significantly regressed over these last 10 years its a shame because I have never seen color in people... I see human beings... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledInIllinois Posted February 17, 2019 Share Posted February 17, 2019 26 minutes ago, Buffalo716 said: This is the America we live in... sad... Race relations since Barack Obama... our first black president , have significantly regressed over these last 10 years its a shame because I have never seen color in people... I see human beings... And yet... In last 3 years we became hyper-PC. I thought Political Correctness was suppose to be less. Ooops. Go figure, it's gotten worse. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RaoulDuke79 Posted February 17, 2019 Author Share Posted February 17, 2019 (edited) 6 minutes ago, ExiledInIllinois said: And yet... In last 3 years we became hyper-PC. I thought Political Correctness was suppose to be less. Ooops. Go figure, it's gotten worse. It's gotten worse because the left has went further left where everything under the sun is offensive. Edited February 17, 2019 by RaoulDuke79 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledInIllinois Posted February 17, 2019 Share Posted February 17, 2019 1 minute ago, RaoulDuke79 said: It's gotten worse because the left has went further left. Exactly. As in 2008+ with race relations. The right went further right in response to Obama, just like left did in response to Trump & PCness. Funny how those things happen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RaoulDuke79 Posted February 17, 2019 Author Share Posted February 17, 2019 6 minutes ago, ExiledInIllinois said: Exactly. As in 2008+ with race relations. The right went further right in response to Obama, just like left did in response to Trump & PCness. Funny how those things happen. You have a point, but I dont recall anything to the extent of antifa when Obama was elected. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snafu Posted February 17, 2019 Share Posted February 17, 2019 16 hours ago, Rico said: The movie should be pretty good. Chadwick Boseman or Donald Glover as Jussie please. Guest star Ike Enemkpali Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledInIllinois Posted February 17, 2019 Share Posted February 17, 2019 44 minutes ago, RaoulDuke79 said: You have a point, but I dont recall anything to the extent of antifa when Obama was elected. Left is just a little more passionate. Cares. Cares about what, I don't know. But... They organize a little better than say your run of the mill standard whiney azz Snowflake TeaBagger. Yet, when push comes to shove, that organizing is all over the place with too many heads in the clouds. Chaos. Classic cafe society till the barrel of the tank comes smashing through window and command is given to all get in line... That's where the conservatives excel! Case in point... Just look at this wonderful story... Holy Moly... Is this the best they can do? Noose? Shout: "This is MAGA country!" and throw bleach during a Polar Vortex Event. A+ for creativity F for believability & logistics. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledInIllinois Posted February 17, 2019 Share Posted February 17, 2019 Socialist Fascists still make the trains run on time! Socialist Communists... Well let's just say they get rounded up by the biggest bully and taken to a secluded forest. So much for that power lunch cafe dream session. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted February 17, 2019 Share Posted February 17, 2019 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted February 17, 2019 Share Posted February 17, 2019 ANOTHER FAKE HATE CRIME? OF COURSE IT IS What a shock! Of course, no one who pays attention is surprised. It is another left-wing hoax, promoted by news outlets that probably knew better. But it’s all for the anti-Trump narrative, like so much of what we read in newspapers these days. . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chef Jim Posted February 18, 2019 Share Posted February 18, 2019 2 hours ago, ExiledInIllinois said: Left is just a little more passionate. Cares. Cares about what, I don't know. But... They organize a little better than say your run of the mill standard whiney azz Snowflake TeaBagger. Yet, when push comes to shove, that organizing is all over the place with too many heads in the clouds. Chaos. Classic cafe society till the barrel of the tank comes smashing through window and command is given to all get in line... That's where the conservatives excel! Case in point... Just look at this wonderful story... Holy Moly... Is this the best they can do? Noose? Shout: "This is MAGA country!" and throw bleach during a Polar Vortex Event. A+ for creativity F for believability & logistics. The only F here is your assumption of who the “they” were. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledInIllinois Posted February 18, 2019 Share Posted February 18, 2019 8 minutes ago, Chef Jim said: The only F here is your assumption of who the “they” were. They were Hollywood idiots which tend to be overwhelmingly liberal idiots (sorry @Deranged Rhino you don't keep good company and no offense). My point is real Deplorables would have been less creative with the stupidity (noose, liquid in -20° weather) and better on the logistics: "Ah, wait till this gets warmer." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chef Jim Posted February 18, 2019 Share Posted February 18, 2019 1 hour ago, ExiledInIllinois said: They were Hollywood idiots which tend to be overwhelmingly liberal idiots (sorry @Deranged Rhino you don't keep good company and no offense). My point is real Deplorables would have been less creative with the stupidity (noose, liquid in -20° weather) and better on the logistics: "Ah, wait till this gets warmer." Your point?? Your babbling had a point? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted February 18, 2019 Share Posted February 18, 2019 I think you're all missing the important point here, that even if it is a hoax, it's not a hoax, because it represents the real fear that black gay men face every day of their lives, and we should use this opportunity Smollett's given us to address the problem of MAGA-hat-wearing racist Trump supporters who would even do such a thing to a black man. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leh-nerd skin-erd Posted February 18, 2019 Share Posted February 18, 2019 11 minutes ago, DC Tom said: I think you're all missing the important point here, that even if it is a hoax, it's not a hoax, because it represents the real fear that black gay men face every day of their lives, and we should use this opportunity Smollett's given us to address the problem of MAGA-hat-wearing racist Trump supporters who would even do such a thing to a black man. I was thinking about that earlier today. If this all had happened exactly as he had said, he would have been 100% truthful about everything. We all need to think about the seriousness of what he might have gone through had it actually occurred. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SinceThe70s Posted February 18, 2019 Share Posted February 18, 2019 21 hours ago, Rico said: The movie should be pretty good. Chadwick Boseman or Donald Glover as Jussie please. Jussie should play himself. It would give him a second chance to make it more believable. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GG Posted February 18, 2019 Share Posted February 18, 2019 1 hour ago, DC Tom said: I think you're all missing the important point here, that even if it is a hoax, it's not a hoax, because it represents the real fear that black gay men face every day of their lives, and we should use this opportunity Smollett's given us to address the problem of MAGA-hat-wearing racist Trump supporters who would even do such a thing to a black man. These aren’t your thoughts. You’re just parroting a WaPo editorial I read today 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bbb Posted February 18, 2019 Share Posted February 18, 2019 7 hours ago, Buffalo716 said: Race relations since Barack Obama... our first black president , have significantly regressed over these last 10 years It's just unbelievable that that is what happened. WTF 6 hours ago, ExiledInIllinois said: Exactly. As in 2008+ with race relations. The right went further right in response to Obama, I keep hearing this type of thing. What did the right do in response to Obama being black? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted February 18, 2019 Share Posted February 18, 2019 1 hour ago, DC Tom said: I think you're all missing the important point here, that even if it is a hoax, it's not a hoax, because it represents the real fear that black gay men face every day of their lives, and we should use this opportunity Smollett's given us to address the problem of MAGA-hat-wearing racist Trump supporters who would even do such a thing to a black man. I’ve started to respond several times, but I have to weigh the burden a muppet must be subjected to against the sting of a warning here. I’m wimping out. (But I thought it was REALLY funny!) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledInIllinois Posted February 18, 2019 Share Posted February 18, 2019 49 minutes ago, bbb said: I keep hearing this type of thing. What did the right do in response to Obama being black? It's more subtle than that. I know you want straight up answers. You're not going to get those answers... Because they don't exist out in the open. It really isnt that easy to put your finger on in a de facto standard environment. Of course there was obstructionism, the victory of "no" in Congress... And the resetting the clock after 2016. From the BBC: https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-38536668 An outsider's (the BBC) perspective @ the start (when this article was written) of the Trump years. "...His formative years were spent in Hawaii, America's most racially integrated state, and the whites he encountered, namely his mother and grandparents, were doting and loving. Obama was not the victim of discrimination in the same way as a black kid growing up in Alabama, Mississippi, Georgia, or even New York or Illinois. As a result, he may have underestimated the forces that would seek to paralyse his presidency and to impede racial advance more broadly..." "...For as we enter the final days of the Obama presidency, the more accurate descriptor of race relations is a fault-line - the most angry fault-line in US politics and American life, and one that continues to rumble away, threatening small explosions at any time. From Obama we expected seismic change of a more positive kind. And although it was a presidency that began atop a mountain, it ended in something of a valley..." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted February 18, 2019 Share Posted February 18, 2019 3 hours ago, bbb said: I keep hearing this type of thing. What did the right do in response to Obama being black? A lot of 'em voted for him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bbb Posted February 18, 2019 Share Posted February 18, 2019 1 hour ago, ExiledInIllinois said: It's more subtle than that. I know you want straight up answers. You're not going to get those answers... Because they don't exist out in the open. So nothing. 3 minutes ago, Deranged Rhino said: A lot of 'em voted for him. Very true. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledInIllinois Posted February 18, 2019 Share Posted February 18, 2019 14 minutes ago, bbb said: So nothing. No. I figured you'd misread what I wrote. It's easy to do. ? Oh, there is something, it's just not easily exposed the way you want it to be. The right paralyzed his presidency and impeded a more broad racial agenda. What was accomplished, then was promptly undone after 2016. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringBackOrton Posted February 18, 2019 Share Posted February 18, 2019 5 hours ago, ExiledInIllinois said: No. I figured you'd misread what I wrote. It's easy to do. ? Oh, there is something, it's just not easily exposed the way you want it to be. The right paralyzed his presidency and impeded a more broad racial agenda. What was accomplished, then was promptly undone after 2016. He was still able to get that pallet of cash to Iran. I love how we can point to Blasey-Ford, Covington, Justice for Jussie all the in last 6 months as leftist bad behavior, and you can’t name a single specific thing that the “right” did to Obama because of his skin color over 8 years. Kinda telling, no? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leh-nerd skin-erd Posted February 18, 2019 Share Posted February 18, 2019 5 hours ago, ExiledInIllinois said: No. I figured you'd misread what I wrote. It's easy to do. ? Oh, there is something, it's just not easily exposed the way you want it to be. The right paralyzed his presidency and impeded a more broad racial agenda. What was accomplished, then was promptly undone after 2016. When someone disagrees with you, it doesn't necessarily mean they misunderstood. I'll summarize the situation the way I think it played out. No need for subtle introspection or conservative ot liberal think tanks. Some people likely hated Barrack Obama. For some it might have been because he's black/biracial, some because of his personality and style, some because of his religious beliefs, some because of his policies, some because he was a Democrat, some because he is male. And so on. Some people likely hated Donald Trump. For some it might be because he's white, some because he's wealthy, some because of his personality and style, aome because he ran as a Republican, some because he's male. And so on. As you move toward the center from the extremes, there likely was some crossover on all these points, but the end result as I see it is hanging some bs underlying animus toward one candidate without acknowledging the reality that someone always hates a president discredits what that president actually accomplished. Obama for all his faults navigated some incredibly difficult landscape in his ascension to the seat of power, but so did Trump. In fact it could be argued that the level of hatred and animosity toward Trump vastly exceeds the Obama presidency. And personally, if I was a Trump hater (and I thought i might be at least a Trump detestor), I'd at least acknowledge his ability to take body shot after body shot and shed 'em like it was water off a ducks back. As for dismantling Obama's legacy, Trump was pretty clear that was his goal and he won the election on that platform. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledInIllinois Posted February 18, 2019 Share Posted February 18, 2019 19 minutes ago, BringBackOrton said: He was still able to get that pallet of cash to Iran. I love how we can point to Blasey-Ford, Covington, Justice for Jussie all the in last 6 months as leftist bad behavior, and you can’t name a single specific thing that the “right” did to Obama because of his skin color over 8 years. Kinda telling, no? The Birther Movement. Obstruct and just say: "No." Basically undoing by Executive Order things he did... Okay, even if that was by Executive Order also. Anything else? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringBackOrton Posted February 18, 2019 Share Posted February 18, 2019 8 minutes ago, ExiledInIllinois said: The Birther Movement. Obstruct and just say: "No." Basically undoing by Executive Order things he did... Okay, even if that was by Executive Order also. Anything else? The Birther Movement, which got so much mainstream support and wasn’t laughed at? Things done in Trump’s Presidency count as things done in Obama’s presidency? Please stop. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledInIllinois Posted February 18, 2019 Share Posted February 18, 2019 (edited) 12 minutes ago, leh-nerd skin-erd said: When someone disagrees with you, it doesn't necessarily mean they misunderstood. I'll summarize the situation the way I think it played out. No need for subtle introspection or conservative ot liberal think tanks. Some people likely hated Barrack Obama. For some it might have been because he's black/biracial, some because of his personality and style, some because of his religious beliefs, some because of his policies, some because he was a Democrat, some because he is male. And so on. Some people likely hated Donald Trump. For some it might be because he's white, some because he's wealthy, some because of his personality and style, aome because he ran as a Republican, some because he's male. And so on. As you move toward the center from the extremes, there likely was some crossover on all these points, but the end result as I see it is hanging some bs underlying animus toward one candidate without acknowledging the reality that someone always hates a president discredits what that president actually accomplished. Obama for all his faults navigated some incredibly difficult landscape in his ascension to the seat of power, but so did Trump. In fact it could be argued that the level of hatred and animosity toward Trump vastly exceeds the Obama presidency. And personally, if I was a Trump hater (and I thought i might be at least a Trump detestor), I'd at least acknowledge his ability to take body shot after body shot and shed 'em like it was water off a ducks back. As for dismantling Obama's legacy, Trump was pretty clear that was his goal and he won the election on that platform. Exactly. As I just stated. Why are guys like @bbb having such a hard time. Sure things aren't out in open... The racism is underground, incideous. Funny anecdote: Literally... My supervisor at work (I am Fed) had Trump's picture in hand on Inauguration Day and the second Trump's hand went on Bible, he ordered Obama's picture to be taken down. Now I have been around Federal offices for 30 years. Replaced 4 Presidents on the wall... I have never seen that much venom towards a President. Of course as Fed workers, we are not the fastest... But why the change now with picture? LMAO... Why? Because there was a Black Man on the wall above the chain of of command. In past, it took some time to get the photos out. This time, the transition team had it all done and ready... LoL... I mean... It's not a big deal... But really? Tell us how you really feel? 1 minute ago, BringBackOrton said: The Birther Movement, which got so much mainstream support and wasn’t laughed at? Things done in Trump’s Presidency count as things done in Obama’s presidency? Please stop. The head Birther is now POTUS. Yes... When one is purposely evicerating a legacy... Tell us how you really feel? Edited February 18, 2019 by ExiledInIllinois Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Senator Posted February 18, 2019 Share Posted February 18, 2019 Anyway, getting back to Smallette, looks like the idiot got the 15 minutes of famed he pined for, and then some. He may be facing a felony conviction and 3 years in prison for filing a false report. Now, if he truly did not stage the entire thing, and all he had to do to prove his innocence was let the police check out his cell phone, why won’t he do that? What a freakin ‘ moron! Oh well, he got what he wanted - before his act of blatant stupidity, I never heard of him, now, everyone has. . 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledInIllinois Posted February 18, 2019 Share Posted February 18, 2019 2 minutes ago, The Senator said: Anyway, getting back to Smallette, looks like the idiot got the 15 minutes of famed he pined for, and then some. He may be facing a felony conviction and 3 years in prison for filing a false report. Now, if he truly did not stage the entire thing, and all he had to do to prove his innocence was let the police check out his cell phone, why won’t he do that? What a freakin ‘ moron! Oh well, he got what he wanted - before his act of blatant stupidity, I never heard of him, now, everyone has. . God knows what else is on that phone! Is he living a deviant life? Check out 8/10 Americans phones... Probably an utter mess. /smh... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nanker Posted February 18, 2019 Share Posted February 18, 2019 I hope whoever committed this crime gets prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledInIllinois Posted February 18, 2019 Share Posted February 18, 2019 1 minute ago, Nanker said: I hope whoever committed this crime gets prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law. How much resources, $$$ wasted on this Shi...Show? Bill them the hours. /smh 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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