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What is the size of Khaleesi’s army now? It seems so small. I don’t know how they stand a chance against Cersei. 

 

Obviously, the characters fates are determined by the writers, but boy did Khaleesi make a mistake. She should have taken her army straight to kings landing before helping the north. 

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7 hours ago, ShadyBillsFan said:

The poor dragon ?.  

 

Poor Misande 

 

Euron was surprised by what???

 

more dragons?

 

 

It'd be easy for a dragon to drop straight down on the ships and torch them. I'm surprised Dany didn't do it then and there. The scorpions can't shoot straight up. Euron is dead if he thinks he's gonna stand up to a dragon. He's lost the element of surprise.

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6 hours ago, frostbitmic said:

I'm guessing Misande's last words were ... "kill the B word" or "burn it down"

 

6 hours ago, Johnny Hammersticks said:

 

She said “Dracarys” which means dragonfire.

 

As Johnny said, Dracarys means dragonfire and is the command that Dany would give to her dragons to burn something

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21 minutes ago, LeGOATski said:

It'd be easy for a dragon to drop straight down on the ships and torch them. I'm surprised Dany didn't do it then and there. The scorpions can't shoot straight up. Euron is dead if he thinks he's gonna stand up to a dragon. He's lost the element of surprise.

Dany only had one dragon and she came to her senses and retreated after Drogon was almost hit with the  mass produced dragon killing machines. 

 

Euron is nuts.  They make that crystal clear in the books how twisted he is.  I wish the series introduced him earlier so we could learn to despise him as much as Ramsey.

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Good stuff last night.  I'll watch again tonight or tomorrow.

 

Really wish we could have seen Sansa's and Arya's immediate reactions to Bran telling them Jon's true lineage.

 

We now know that Bran told Tyrion everything during their conversation two episodes ago...they said "around 8" people know the truth -- Dany, Jon, Bran, Sansa, Arya, Tyrion, Varys, Sam...that's it, right?

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17 minutes ago, eball said:

Good stuff last night.  I'll watch again tonight or tomorrow.

 

Really wish we could have seen Sansa's and Arya's immediate reactions to Bran telling them Jon's true lineage.

 

We now know that Bran told Tyrion everything during their conversation two episodes ago...they said "around 8" people know the truth -- Dany, Jon, Bran, Sansa, Arya, Tyrion, Varys, Sam...that's it, right?

 

I don't think Brann told Tyrion about Jon, Sansa told Tyrion

 

And we did see Sansa's reaction => telling Tyrion who she knew would confide in Varys.

Little finger trained her well

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8 hours ago, Doc Brown said:

I thought this was the strongest episode of the season by far. 

Character endings w/o deaths 

 

Many thought Grey Worm would die...  it was the other way around.  

 

8 hours ago, row_33 said:

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okay so Euron, if he has a brain, might now realize that Cersei’s baby isn’t his, but I’m at the same time ready to believe this is a script oversight with the sloppiness of the show this season...

 

If he has a brain.  

2 hours ago, GETTOTHE50 said:

What is the size of Khaleesi’s army now? It seems so small. I don’t know how they stand a chance against Cersei. 

 

Obviously, the characters fates are determined by the writers, but boy did Khaleesi make a mistake. She should have taken her army straight to kings landing before helping the north. 

 

Half of what it was  w/o the dragons even strength with Cersei’s 

15 seconds in 

 

 

2 hours ago, LeGOATski said:

Greyworm's gonna go nuts.

 

\Where's he going to get a new set?  

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1 hour ago, LeGOATski said:

It'd be easy for a dragon to drop straight down on the ships and torch them. I'm surprised Dany didn't do it then and there. The scorpions can't shoot straight up. Euron is dead if he thinks he's gonna stand up to a dragon. He's lost the element of surprise.

 

I thought of that but every ship has one so the ships in the outer edge would get a good angle ...   in general  - IF you use logic.   We've seen logic ignored too often.

 

Cersei could have attacked Dany and small contingent, she could have blown Tryion apart with a ballista 

 

What got my attention in the opening - 

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It looks as if only the Lion survives. 

 

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1 hour ago, Doc Brown said:

Dany only had one dragon and she came to her senses and retreated after Drogon was almost hit with the  mass produced dragon killing machines. 

 

Euron is nuts.  They make that crystal clear in the books how twisted he is.  I wish the series introduced him earlier so we could learn to despise him as much as Ramsey.

Oh, me thinks they’ve done a pretty good job of it. Can’t say that I’m eager to see much more of him. 

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1 hour ago, Doc Brown said:

Dany only had one dragon and she came to her senses and retreated after Drogon was almost hit with the  mass produced dragon killing machines. 

 

Euron is nuts.  They make that crystal clear in the books how twisted he is.  I wish the series introduced him earlier so we could learn to despise him as much as Ramsey.

 

Thats a fact.  

59 minutes ago, eball said:

Good stuff last night.  I'll watch again tonight or tomorrow.

 

Really wish we could have seen Sansa's and Arya's immediate reactions to Bran telling them Jon's true lineage.

 

We now know that Bran told Tyrion everything during their conversation two episodes ago...they said "around 8" people know the truth -- Dany, Jon, Bran, Sansa, Arya, Tyrion, Varys, Sam...that's it, right?

eeehhh   Maybe.   It may have been Sansa who told Tyrion.

 

"around 8" yes. 

Speaking of Varys..   He's sure to die with his talk of treason 

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So many things to ponder on how the show will end, and, at this moment, I can't imagine an ending that would leave me satisfied.  Maybe it's best to just "burn them all..."?

 

That said, there is one very important (to me at least) incident that happened in the show, and it certainly seemed it was done for a reason, that has to come into play before it ends: in the scene at the Tower of Joy, Bran calling out after his father who reacted to it, and Bran saying "he heard me."  Will there be a point where he tries to change recent history?  If not, what was the point of that scene?  

 

I think I better temper my expectations for these last two episodes...

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Oh   I nearly forgot ...  @John from Riverside will be sad about the dragon so I'll leave him a gift 

 

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38 minutes ago, TPS said:

So many things to ponder on how the show will end, and, at this moment, I can't imagine an ending that would leave me satisfied.  Maybe it's best to just "burn them all..."?

 

That said, there is one very important (to me at least) incident that happened in the show, and it certainly seemed it was done for a reason, that has to come into play before it ends: in the scene at the Tower of Joy, Bran calling out after his father who reacted to it, and Bran saying "he heard me."  Will there be a point where he tries to change recent history?  If not, what was the point of that scene?  

 

I think I better temper my expectations for these last two episodes...

So many scenarios are open.

 

Does Cersei win and fool us all?

 

Who kills Cersei?   Jon, Dany, Arya, Jamie, Tyrion, Grey Worm?

 

Does Dany go all Mad King and need to be taken out? 

 

 

Does Sansa really have any further part to play? 

Does Brann really have any further part to play? 

Does Gendry really have any further part to play? 

Does Bronn really have any further part to play? 

 

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9 minutes ago, ShadyBillsFan said:

Oh   I nearly forgot ...  @John from Riverside will be sad about the dragon so I'll leave him a gift 

 

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So many scenarios are open.

 

Does Cersei win and fool us all?

 

Who kills Cersei?   Jon, Dany, Arya, Jamie, Tyrion, Grey Worm?

 

Does Dany go all Mad King and need to be taken out? 

 

Does Bronn really have any further part to play? 

Does Bronn really have any further part to play? 

Does Bronn really have any further part to play? Does Bronn really have any further part to play? 

 

I think that's why Jamie left Brienne behind, he's going to use that secret passageway to get in undetected that Tyrion used to talk to him last season.

 

It could also be why urine looked startled on the preview for next week.

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3 hours ago, LeGOATski said:

Greyworm's gonna go nuts.

 

Been hard times for his folk this season

 

1 hour ago, ShadyBillsFan said:

 

Thats a fact.  

eeehhh   Maybe.   It may have been Sansa who told Tyrion.

 

"around 8" yes. 

Speaking of Varys..   He's sure to die with his talk of treason 

 

Blondie is going to go insane and have to be taken out?

 

 

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58 minutes ago, TPS said:

So many things to ponder on how the show will end, and, at this moment, I can't imagine an ending that would leave me satisfied.  Maybe it's best to just "burn them all..."?

 

That said, there is one very important (to me at least) incident that happened in the show, and it certainly seemed it was done for a reason, that has to come into play before it ends: in the scene at the Tower of Joy, Bran calling out after his father who reacted to it, and Bran saying "he heard me."  Will there be a point where he tries to change recent history?  If not, what was the point of that scene?  

 

I think I better temper my expectations for these last two episodes...

 

I think it was the setup for the Hodor episode.

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It seems like they are telegraphing Jon/Aegon''s demise a bit too much, which makes me think him prevailing might be a/the big surprise.

 

Basically going down an identical path as Ned (choosing unbending honor instead of survival/power/love), booting his direwolf, "final-seeming" goodbyes to Tormund and Sam, heading south to King's landing as a Stark.

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25 minutes ago, frostbitmic said:

I think that's why Jamie left Brienne behind, he's going to use that secret passageway to get in undetected that Tyrion used to talk to him last season.

 

It could also be why urine looked startled on the preview for next week.

 

dam thing posted before I was finished editing my copy paste ...  Dany's army could also use that secret passageway to get in undetected. 

 

Urine was looking up at the sky.   High Altitude Green Fire bombs that Tyrion secreted out.  

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14 minutes ago, eball said:

 

I think it was the setup for the Hodor episode.

Ahhh, yes.  I expected Bran to have a much bigger role in the outcome; maybe not...

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I think Bran’s role is done. When he said he mostly lives in the past, just seems that he is fading into the background. Doubt he has any large role in the Kings Landing events.

 

I’m worried about Arya surviving now that she’s left the north for good. 

 

 

 

 

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45 minutes ago, row_33 said:

 

Been hard times for his folk this season

 

 

Blondie is going to go insane and have to be taken out?

 

 

 

that's one scenario they are lining up.  Its what Varys and Tyrion were speaking about.

 

You saw she was "weirding" out when Jon was getting the attention and being called King . 

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11 minutes ago, ShadyBillsFan said:

 

that's one scenario they are lining up.  Its what Varys and Tyrion were speaking about.

 

You saw she was "weirding" out when Jon was getting the attention and being called King . 

I still see her as the only one who makes sense to finish on the throne. 

 

Does anyone really see Jon taking on the role? 

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32 minutes ago, ShadyBillsFan said:

 

that's one scenario they are lining up.  Its what Varys and Tyrion were speaking about.

 

You saw she was "weirding" out when Jon was getting the attention and being called King . 

 

Faith in dragons isn’t what it once once

 

 

21 minutes ago, Rockpile233 said:

I still see her as the only one who makes sense to finish on the throne. 

 

Does anyone really see Jon taking on the role? 

 

One of the deformed will win out

 

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24 minutes ago, Deranged Rhino said:

More dragons coming to the rescue? Where DID Drogon go for all those months when he/she disappeared?

 

Have the hatchlings grown up enough to do some damage? 

 

Should be fun to see either way. 

 

they have worked themselves into a corner of 90 possible plot twists, not intentionally, so they'll do whatever no matter how it bends any sense of science or fantasy

 

 

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I don't think Jon ever sits on the Iron Throne.  I'll stick to my belief that he is already "dead" but just serving a purpose to get a rightful ruler in place.  I don't think he currently knows who that ruler is, but it won't wind up being Dany.

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5 minutes ago, eball said:

I don't think Jon ever sits on the Iron Throne.  I'll stick to my belief that he is already "dead" but just serving a purpose to get a rightful ruler in place.  I don't think he currently knows who that ruler is, but it won't wind up being Dany.

I completely agree with this assessment, but I do think Dany takes it.

 

Jon will fulfill his role with some sort of sacrifice that brings her back down to earth with perspective. 

 

Who else could possibly sit on the throne? Sansa/Tyrion possibly, but Sansa as lady of Winterfell seems more appropriate.

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I really hope Sansa doesn't end up as the "last man standing" and hold all the power at the end.  She is probably my least favorite "main" character throughout the books and the show.  Her whole transition from "I like songs" to some sort of ruler was hastily done, was forced and doesn't make a lot of sense.  When Arya says that Sansa is the smartest person she knows or something, I was like "wut?".  Like what smart thing has she done or concocted in the entire series?  She is crafted as one of the "dumbest" characters who has trained only to be a "Lady" as intently as Arya has trained to fight/kill.  
I know she has 'been through a lot", and got a few lessons on being a sneak from Littlefinger, but I think its lazy to suggest she is suddenly a stone-cold ruler at this point.

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8 minutes ago, May Day 10 said:

I really hope Sansa doesn't end up as the "last man standing" and hold all the power at the end.  She is probably my least favorite "main" character throughout the books and the show.  Her whole transition from "I like songs" to some sort of ruler was hastily done, was forced and doesn't make a lot of sense.  When Arya says that Sansa is the smartest person she knows or something, I was like "wut?".  Like what smart thing has she done or concocted in the entire series?  She is crafted as one of the "dumbest" characters who has trained only to be a "Lady" as intently as Arya has trained to fight/kill.  
I know she has 'been through a lot", and got a few lessons on being a sneak from Littlefinger, but I think its lazy to suggest she is suddenly a stone-cold ruler at this point.

One smart thing Sansa has done? How about saving Jon Snow, Davos, Tormund and  their entire army from annihilation at the Battle of the Bastards?

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1 minute ago, K-9 said:

One smart thing Sansa has done? How about saving Jon Snow, Davos, Tormund and  their entire army from annihilation at the Battle of the Bastards?

 

That wasn't that 'smart' though.  If she had told Snow up front about it, like she should have, he would have probably said "hell yes, tell them to come, do it yesterday".... and probably formed a different battle plan that could have saved 1000s of lives.  

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Nothing about how Rheagal got killed quickly and how Drogon was like Neo in the Matrix? Cersei could have wiped them all out right there, she didn't. I love how quickly everyone can move from location to location now. The poor fight strategy in episode 3 and their approach into King's fall was awful, even D&D said that Dany just forgot about Euron and his fleet, hence Rheagal getting killed.  The writing has been awful this season, with each episode is getting progressively worse - it's baffling.

 

I did like the Tyrion and Varys discussions, that was the best part of the episode.  I'm curious to see how this all ends up, but man they are fumbling the ball...

 

 

 

Edit: I also wonder if Drogon will get killed in short order, much like Cersei losing her 3 children, Dany loses her 3?

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2 hours ago, May Day 10 said:

It seems like they are telegraphing Jon/Aegon''s demise a bit too much, which makes me think him prevailing might be a/the big surprise.

 

Basically going down an identical path as Ned (choosing unbending honor instead of survival/power/love), booting his direwolf, "final-seeming" goodbyes to Tormund and Sam, heading south to King's landing as a Stark.

I thought the same thing.  But part of me thinks all of it was symbolic of everyone saying goodbye to Jon Snow as we knew him, which allows his character to fully become Aegon. 

 

Or he ends up dead, which will essentially ruin the show for me.

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