Updated 2019 NFL draft order after Week 14: Bills draft 6th!!

[John from Riverside]

7 minutes ago, NJKBillsfan said:

Not trying to be a debbie downer.

But does anyone honestly care about the draft this year?

 

I could easily see McBeane butchering the pick anyway. 

Quite the troll aren’t  you

exactly what pick has he butchered

Edited December 24, 2018 by John from Riverside

[Dr.Sack]

We should lose next week but in all likelihood we win. I watched Aaron Donald today and believe we need someone that dominant after watching us get manhandled upfront today.

[Estro]

14 hours ago, JohnC said:

With a first round projection I don't see him staying. The economics of the draft with his first round grade make it difficult to stay in school. The financial consideration isn't only about the first contract. It is just as much about getting to the richer second contract sooner assuming the player develops as projected. 

He is no bueno, IMO.  Weak arm. Erratic accuracy downfield.  Was never impressed with him as a prospect.

 

Come on out! Maybe some team will want to trade up with the Bills!

3 minutes ago, NJKBillsfan said:

Passing on Mahomes, trading up for Zay Jones, trading up for a project QB who wasn't even good in college, etc.

Don't forget trading up for an avg. LT and trading up for a LB that looks very so so, when Dallas appeared to have gotten a much better one a few picks later.

 

Does anyone notice a trend? Trade up, trade up, trade up.....the exact thing smart teams dont do....and the one time we do trade down it's to pass on what looks to be one of the best QBs in the league (Mahomes) or one that looks really good (Watson), yet again showing this franchise has no ability to evaluate QB prospects.

[26CornerBlitz]

 

[SCBills]

Tough spot to be on.  You never gameplan to lose, especially when developing a young QB, but man.....a win/loss is the potential difference between a blue chip player OR perhaps an extra second round pick via trade down in a year where the 2nd Round should be loaded with good receiving talent. 

[FeelingOnYouboty]

Jonah Williams or DK Metcalf. Period!

[McBean]

Hollywood Brown.

 

No matter what.

[Pete]

tank, trade down, and load up on draft picks rounds 2-4 this and next year!

Edited December 24, 2018 by Pete

[26CornerBlitz]

2 minutes ago, Pete said:

tank, trade down, and load up on draft picks rounds 2-4 this and next year!

 

2019 will be year three of Beane and McDermott.  You can forget the tank talk as it will be time for their regime to produce results with plenty of cap space and ten draft picks to replenish the roster. 

[Mrbojanglezs]

I kind of want to be in the 7-10 range. Better chance we take an offensive player there

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The 2019 NFL draft will be held in Nashville, Tenn., from April 25-27.

1. Arizona Cardinals
Record: 3-12 (strength of schedule: .520)

2. Oakland Raiders
Record: 3-11 (.545)

3. San Francisco 49ers
Record: 4-11 (.484)

4. New York Jets
Record: 4-11 (.498)

5. Detroit Lions
Record: 5-10 (.509)

6. New York Giants
Record: 5-10 (.520)

7t. Buffalo Bills
Record: 5-10 (.529)

7t. Tampa Bay Buccaneers
Record: 5-10 (.529)

* A coin toss -- conducted during the NFL scouting combine -- will determine which team gets the No. 7 overall selection.

9. Jacksonville Jaguars
Record: 5-10 (.536)

10. Carolina Panthers
Record: 6-9 (.484)

[formerlyofCtown]

9 hours ago, NJKBillsfan said:

Excellent points.

I'm really starting to think we may have a really bad GM running our team. 

Ingnorant points.  Been wasn,t the GM for Dawkins or the Mahomes trade.  Edmonds has some better key stats than Vander Esch and has to command the D as well as playing in a true MLB roll as VE plays OLB.  I swear do people on this board do any research or do they just listen to other people that dont look into anything.  Lets talk about Edmonds at this time next year.  Allen as well.

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[NewEra]

10 hours ago, Estro said:

He is no bueno, IMO.  Weak arm. Erratic accuracy downfield.  Was never impressed with him as a prospect.

 

Come on out! Maybe some team will want to trade up with the Bills!   

Don't forget trading up for an avg. LT and trading up for a LB that looks very so so, when Dallas appeared to have gotten a much better one a few picks later.

 

Does anyone notice a trend? Trade up, trade up, trade up.....the exact thing smart teams dont do....and the one time we do trade down it's to pass on what looks to be one of the best QBs in the league (Mahomes) or one that looks really good (Watson), yet again showing this franchise has no ability to evaluate QB prospects.

Is this a serious post?  Eagles traded up and win a super bowl.  Rams traded up and are one of the best in the league,  KC traded up and now are one of the best in the league.  The saints traded up for a DE and are one of the best in the league.  Bears traded up, division winners.  Texans traded up, in the playoff hunt.  Lots of teams trade up.  Saying that trading up is the exact thing smart teams don’t do is just so off base you couldn’t be more wrong.  

10 hours ago, NJKBillsfan said:

Excellent points.

I'm really starting to think we may have a really bad GM running our team. 

LOL

[26CornerBlitz]

2019 NFL Draft Order: Cardinals No. 1; Broncos Close in on Top 10

 

This is a look at the first-round order for the 2019 NFL Draft through Week 16. The order is determined by record, using strength of schedule as a tiebreaker. Keep in mind -- teams 21-32 would make the playoffs if the season ended today (the Rams, Saints, Chiefs, Chargers, Bears, Patriots, Texans, Cowboys and Seahawks have already clinched playoff spots). The draft order for playoff teams is determined by the results of postseason play.

 

It's almost time. We're six days away from locking in the first 20 picks of the 2019 draft -- well, until one of those picks is traded -- and the Cardinals find themselves in the driver's seat to kick off the festivities on April 25 in Nashville.

 

With the Raiders' beatdown of the Broncos on Monday night, Arizona is alone at the bottom of the standings (and top of the draft board) entering the final Sunday of the regular season, so the Cards are a loss at Seattle away from clinching the top pick.

 

Here's the first-round order heading into Week 17, along with the top three needs for each team.

 

 

 

[Big Gun]

 It's going to be top 10 somewhere, so who cares if its 9 or 6 or 8 doesnt really matter.

[elijah]

On 12/24/2018 at 8:35 AM, FeelingOnYouboty said:

Jonah Williams or DK Metcalf. Period!

 

On 12/24/2018 at 8:42 AM, McBean said:

Hollywood Brown.

 

No matter what.

 

You've gotta watch the film, you can’t just rely on media outlets for this stuff. 

 

Both of these receivers are reaches in the second and maybe worth their value in the third. 

 

Metcalf is oft-injured, has sub par hands and can’t run routes. 

 

Hollywood Brown weighs 170 pounds and also has sub par hands. He’s so small that when he’s holding the ball it almost looks as big as a toddler in his hands. 170 pounds is how much i weigh, and i’m typing this behind a screen while taking a deuce on my toilet (ala, 170 pounds doesn’t take you to the NFL). He was 138 pounds going into college so it’s unlikely he’s going to add much more weight to his frame. 

 

These guys just just come from big market pipeline schools so it was easy for the media to find them, expect their draft stock to fall towards draft time and new names like Kelvin Harmon will be the ones we’re hearing about and eventually seeing go in the first round. 

[SoCal Deek]

So it’s settled then...Donte Whitner!

[billspro]

2 hours ago, elijah said:

 

 

You've gotta watch the film, you can’t just rely on media outlets for this stuff. 

 

Both of these receivers are reaches in the second and maybe worth their value in the third. 

 

Metcalf is oft-injured, has sub par hands and can’t run routes. 

 

Hollywood Brown weighs 170 pounds and also has sub par hands. He’s so small that when he’s holding the ball it almost looks as big as a toddler in his hands. 170 pounds is how much i weigh, and i’m typing this behind a screen while taking a deuce on my toilet (ala, 170 pounds doesn’t take you to the NFL). He was 138 pounds going into college so it’s unlikely he’s going to add much more weight to his frame. 

 

These guys just just come from big market pipeline schools so it was easy for the media to find them, expect their draft stock to fall towards draft time and new names like Kelvin Harmon will be the ones we’re hearing about and eventually seeing go in the first round. 

 

Metcalf seems like consensus number 1 at this time.

[Rock-A-Bye Beasley]

23 hours ago, formerlyofCtown said:

Ingnorant points.  Been wasn,t the GM for Dawkins or the Mahomes trade.  Edmonds has some better key stats than Vander Esch and has to command the D as well as playing in a true MLB roll as VE plays OLB.  I swear do people on this board do any research or do they just listen to other people that dont look into anything.  Lets talk about Edmonds at this time next year.  Allen as well.

 

It’s always too early to evaluate the Bills decisions if it’s negative. But zay Jones is a true #2 after one good game.

 

As soon as it’s a proven mistake the homers say “let’s just move on! Stop living in the past!”

 

apparently there must be a sweet spot where it’s ok to admit the Bills have made a mistake; after enough time has passed but not before too much time has passed. 

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On December 24, 2018 at 8:35 AM, FeelingOnYouboty said:

Jonah Williams or DK Metcalf. Period!

They're saying he is a 2nd round guy now. Metcalf otoh I'm open to, I can understand that. If Quinnen Williams, Ed Oliver and the LB from LSU is gone, suuuuuuure I can get down with Metcalf.

[TheBeaneBandit]

58 minutes ago, NewDayBills said:

They're saying he is a 2nd round guy now. Metcalf otoh I'm open to, I can understand that. If Quinnen Williams, Ed Oliver and the LB from LSU is gone, suuuuuuure I can get down with Metcalf.

My exact thinking right now as well. If one of those defenders are there just take them and then do the happy dance. Even the LB where people will scoff "oh you don't take a MLB top 10"......shut up. Can you imagine an Edmunds, White, Milano trio??? But yeah if those guys are gone I'm cool with Williams or Metcalf for the offense.

[OldTimeAFLGuy]

...what an agonizing conundrum.....picking 6th with the same "fire Beane....fire McDermott" gang at the controls.....what to do...what to do......

[formerlyofCtown]

2 hours ago, Chemical said:

 

It’s always too early to evaluate the Bills decisions if it’s negative. But zay Jones is a true #2 after one good game.

 

As soon as it’s a proven mistake the homers say “let’s just move on! Stop living in the past!”

 

apparently there must be a sweet spot where it’s ok to admit the Bills have made a mistake; after enough time has passed but not before too much time has passed. 

As long as I see continued improvement I will.  Hes had a few good games this season.  You think Moulds was anything close to a ProBowl WR in year 2.  I got news for you bud.  I do expect marked improvement next season.  Just so you know its not too early to evaluate any position.  My evaluation just doesnt look for 100 catches or 1000 rec yards in year two from any WR.  Its just too early to write him off.  Year 3 is the one for WRs.  Always has been the rule of thumb.

 

BTW according to many on this board Robert Woods was a bumb.  I didnt think so.  Does he look like a bum now.

Edited December 25, 2018 by formerlyofCtown

[John from Riverside]

1 hour ago, TheBeaneBandit said:

My exact thinking right now as well. If one of those defenders are there just take them and then do the happy dance. Even the LB where people will scoff "oh you don't take a MLB top 10"......shut up. Can you imagine an Edmunds, White, Milano trio??? But yeah if those guys are gone I'm cool with Williams or Metcalf for the offense.

If I am at 6 I’m trading down

[TheBeaneBandit]

4 minutes ago, John from Riverside said:

If I am at 6 I’m trading down

I would need at least a 2nd and i'm not falling any lower than maybe around 12th. If a similar offer came about, sure. In a weak QB draft, unlikely, but hey, i'm listening for sure.

[GG]

28 minutes ago, formerlyofCtown said:

As long as I see continued improvement I will.  Hes had a few good games this season.  You think Moulds was anything close to a ProBowl WR in year 2.  I got news for you bud.  I do expect marked improvement next season.  Just so you know its not too early to evaluate any position.  My evaluation just doesnt look for 100 catches or 1000 rec yards in year two from any WR.  Its just too early to write him off.  Year 3 is the one for WRs.  Always has been the rule of thumb.

 

BTW according to many on this board Robert Woods was a bumb.  I didnt think so.  Does he look like a bum now.

I wish people would stop comparing Moulds' first two seasons to anyone else.  He was in Levy's dog house, but there was zero question about his ability to catch the damn ball.   

[formerlyofCtown]

6 minutes ago, GG said:

I wish people would stop comparing Moulds' first two seasons to anyone else.  He was in Levy's dog house, but there was zero question about his ability to catch the damn ball.   

I wish people would stop arguing with logical points just because is disproves their view point. I realise that research is too much work for people to do but Im done doing it for people that dont want to except it.  But it was the same for Andre Reed as well.  If you actually looked into it you would find that 3 years isnt my opinion it is the accepted NFL standard

Edited December 25, 2018 by formerlyofCtown

[elijah]

6 hours ago, billspro said:

 

Metcalf seems like consensus number 1 at this time.

Consensus number one according to media outlets. 

 

You’re not seeing people within the league or even media members quoting ‘execs’ or what not talking about Metcalf.  

 

As it gets closer to the combine, his injury issues pop up more and get examined deeper, his physicals gifts start to get offset by what he lacks intangibly, he’ll start to fall. I’d bet lots of money that he won’t be the first receiver off the board, maybe not even one of the first 3. 

[billspro]

1 hour ago, elijah said:

Consensus number one according to media outlets. 

 

You’re not seeing people within the league or even media members quoting ‘execs’ or what not talking about Metcalf.  

 

As it gets closer to the combine, his injury issues pop up more and get examined deeper, his physicals gifts start to get offset by what he lacks intangibly, he’ll start to fall. I’d bet lots of money that he won’t be the first receiver off the board, maybe not even one of the first 3. 

 

I would be surprised, he is a pretty special talent and athlete. Haven’t watched much of Harmon yet though.

 

Also, he is very similar to the type of players we took in the first round last year. Raw but an elite talent. I wouldn’t be surprised at all if we drafted him.

[nemhoff]

I seriously wouldn’t mind if the spent every draft pick on OL and WR, look what the Colts did in last year’s draft with their Oline.  Take OL with first three picks...after they trade down

[John from Riverside]

1 minute ago, nemhoff said:

I seriously wouldn’t mind if the spent every draft pick on OL and WR, look what the Colts did in last year’s draft with their Oline.  Take OL with first three picks...after they trade down

If we do that we are gonna have to find a way to get playmakers on the team.......

 

I really would not be against drafting a OL high.....and then going playmakers the rest of the way while using our free agency money on veteran offensive linemen......they come stir and ready.....and we have a lot of offensive postiion holes to fill....which is also why if the opportunity presents itself I would like to trade down.

 

If this team COULD JUST RUN THE DAMN BALL....our offense would look so much better

[FeelingOnYouboty]

20 hours ago, NewDayBills said:

They're saying he is a 2nd round guy now. Metcalf otoh I'm open to, I can understand that. If Quinnen Williams, Ed Oliver and the LB from LSU is gone, suuuuuuure I can get down with Metcalf.

 

There's no precedent for a 6'4 230 WR with 4.4 speed to drop in the 2nd. I guess maybe the neck issue but even Mike Williams went 7th a few years ago.

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2 hours ago, FeelingOnYouboty said:

 

There's no precedent for a 6'4 230 WR with 4.4 speed to drop in the 2nd. I guess maybe the neck issue but even Mike Williams went 7th a few years ago.

I'm talking about Jonah Williams, not Metcalf. I agree that Metcalf is a legit 1st RD prospect.

[26CornerBlitz]

This could impact the Bills opportunity to trade down with a team looking for a franchise QB in the 2019 draft.

 

 

[WMDman]

Lmao poor giants

[YoloinOhio]

5 minutes ago, WMDman said:

Lmao poor giants

Flacco?

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[GG]

On 12/25/2018 at 2:03 PM, formerlyofCtown said:

I wish people would stop arguing with logical points just because is disproves their view point. I realise that research is too much work for people to do but Im done doing it for people that dont want to except it.  But it was the same for Andre Reed as well.  If you actually looked into it you would find that 3 years isnt my opinion it is the accepted NFL standard

 

Why don't bring up the many more Bills' 2nd round WR busts in your history lesson?  Funny how Zay looks a heck of a lot more like Reed's 2nd round draftmate than Reed himself.  Too bad Zay isn't an all-pro special teamer either to try to salvage his career.  

[formerlyofCtown]

3 hours ago, GG said:

 

Why don't bring up the many more Bills' 2nd round WR busts in your history lesson?  Funny how Zay looks a heck of a lot more like Reed's 2nd round draftmate than Reed himself.  Too bad Zay isn't an all-pro special teamer either to try to salvage his career.  

Oh yup other GMs took some other bust WRs.  As a lot of teams do.  So far McBeanes drafts and young talent aquisitions look pretty good.  Just look at our UDFA WR and CB.  He may very well end up being a bust but as I said the rule of thumb is 3 years and it isnt our draft history is NFL reality but you would have to actually research to see it.  90% of the time I do some research before I type.