CowgirlsFan Posted October 12, 2018 Share Posted October 12, 2018 For the Bills to have one more point than the Texans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
416BillsFan Posted October 12, 2018 Share Posted October 12, 2018 54 minutes ago, nucci said: how is a win not the most important ? Because of 2 decades without a franchise quarterback. A win would be cool, but I'd take Allen looking consistently better at the end of the season going 4-12/5-11 over a 9-7 playoff appearance in a minute. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nedboy7 Posted October 12, 2018 Share Posted October 12, 2018 Where are all the “fans”? “Uhm id like a loss so we pick higher in the draft and we ain’t winning a SB but Allen to progress. Oh yeah and trade shady”. 3 minutes ago, 416BillsFan said: Because of 2 decades without a franchise quarterback. A win would be cool, but I'd take Allen looking consistently better at the end of the season going 4-12/5-11 over a 9-7 playoff appearance in a minute. Spoke too soon! There you are! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nucci Posted October 12, 2018 Share Posted October 12, 2018 4 minutes ago, 416BillsFan said: Because of 2 decades without a franchise quarterback. A win would be cool, but I'd take Allen looking consistently better at the end of the season going 4-12/5-11 over a 9-7 playoff appearance in a minute. you would rather finish 4-12 than go to the playoffs? Wow....I don't what to say... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JPP Posted October 12, 2018 Share Posted October 12, 2018 A solid looking win plus losses by the Yets--the Fish & the Cheatriots would complete the weekend! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Murray Posted October 12, 2018 Share Posted October 12, 2018 Honestly, the thing I’m most excited to watch is Tre White v DeAndre Hopkins... I’d love to see white mark him all game and shut him down i wouldnt mind seeing Hopkins make a few plays and just watching an elite v elite battle all day long. Would be fun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nedboy7 Posted October 12, 2018 Share Posted October 12, 2018 3 minutes ago, nucci said: you would rather finish 4-12 than go to the playoffs? Wow....I don't what to say... Losing for years rots your soul. You become obsessed w the draft. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Barbarian Posted October 12, 2018 Share Posted October 12, 2018 Winning Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
416BillsFan Posted October 12, 2018 Share Posted October 12, 2018 1 minute ago, nedboy7 said: Where are all the “fans”? “Uhm id like a loss so we pick higher in the draft and we ain’t winning a SB but Allen to progress. Oh yeah and trade shady”. Spoke too soon! There you are! I think you misunderstood my point. I'd LOVE to be 9-7 or higher and have Allen improve. However, to me Allen getting better is the most important, not winning games with the defense. I trust McD will be able to coach a good defense. I want to see what we have with Allen. As long as he's healthy, play him. I don't care if Derek Anderson gives us a better chance to win. If he doesn't get any better after 2 years draft a QB high again (or sign one). I'm tired of middling seasons, moral victories, and sub-par QB performances. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nucci Posted October 12, 2018 Share Posted October 12, 2018 (edited) 4 minutes ago, nedboy7 said: Losing for years rots your soul. You become obsessed w the draft. I guess but winning is much more fun...I must be different. i prefer winning 2 minutes ago, 416BillsFan said: I think you misunderstood my point. I'd LOVE to be 9-7 or higher and have Allen improve. However, to me Allen getting better is the most important, not winning games with the defense. I trust McD will be able to coach a good defense. I want to see what we have with Allen. As long as he's healthy, play him. I don't care if Derek Anderson gives us a better chance to win. If he doesn't get any better after 2 years draft a QB high again (or sign one). I'm tired of middling seasons, moral victories, and sub-par QB performances. If Allen is playing better then the Bills should win more games. They already have 2 wins...winning only 2 more would not be progress Edited October 12, 2018 by nucci Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Crowing Rooster Posted October 12, 2018 Share Posted October 12, 2018 ?️ That the game has mercifully come to its end after another Bills blowout loss? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rodneykm Posted October 12, 2018 Share Posted October 12, 2018 I honestly want a repeat of the Vikings game plus 10 points. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I'm Spartacus Posted October 12, 2018 Share Posted October 12, 2018 Cracking yet another beer, after the Bills victory is sealed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bray Wyatt Posted October 12, 2018 Share Posted October 12, 2018 (edited) Deandre Hopkins and KB switched teams Edited October 12, 2018 by Bray Wyatt 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted October 12, 2018 Share Posted October 12, 2018 -Shady still a Bill and not traded -Defense came out playing fast and hard -Frazier/McDermott had a plan to contain Watson (if he plays) and it more or less worked -White more or less kept Hopkins down to a dull roar -Offense played ball control, if Watson don't have it, Watson can't use it -Run blocking continues to work OK -Some signs of progress by Allen -WR play like they mean it and run good routes --All our players still in one piece, especially Allen, Shady, and Chris Ivory. (Mills got tossed around like a rag doll by Clay Matthews.) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Da webster guy Posted October 12, 2018 Share Posted October 12, 2018 1 hour ago, nucci said: how is a win not the most important ? I agree with him. We aren't winning the superbowl this year, but we DO need to have a major draft next year. And most importantly we need the kid to develop. I'd rather see a 30 point offensive showing and progress with Josh, but lose the game rather than win like we did last week. At home I would say differently, but on the road, it's all about development. Josh has played in like 29 real football games in his life (not counting Juco stuff) He needs to show he can keep his mechanics intact, find where to go with the ball based on coverage, and hit some accurate throws. That's more important than anything- if this kid can be good he's ours for the next 15 years. Remember a higher draft spot impacts all 7 rounds too, not just the first round. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted October 12, 2018 Share Posted October 12, 2018 14 minutes ago, The Monk said: ?️ That the game has mercifully come to its end after another Bills blowout loss? As an aspirational goal that would make you feel good, permit me to tell you yours blows. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malazan Posted October 12, 2018 Share Posted October 12, 2018 A win. All that matters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cash Posted October 12, 2018 Share Posted October 12, 2018 Love the idea! OP got us off to a great start, so I'll add to and comment on theirs: - Josh Allen's most memorable plays are with his arm, not his legs -Agreed. I'd like to see him throw for 200+ yards. - JA not hitting dudes in the ankles as he rolls out and throws -Agreed - JA being decisive and quick with his passes, not timid -Agreed - JA sacked no more than twice four times (I'm trying to be realistic about having a raw rookie behind our weak OL) - receivers make 2 catches on contested balls downfield -Would be nice, but more important to me is just to have actual WR downfield completions on regular plays. If the WR made such a great cut that he's wide open, great. But I'm looking for success due to our players, rather than a DB stumbling or a blown coverage or something. - running game goes for 120+ total yds -Agreed - offense ball security, no turnovers -I can live with a TO or two - again, rookie QB and all that. Just hopefully not repeating the same mistakes he's already made against GB. - Bills are + in the turnover ratio -Certainly wouldn't mind it, but in terms of feeling good going forward, not much would impress me more than winning a game where we LOSE the TO battle. The way our offense has looked to date, it's basically impossible for us to win or even score without multiple forced turnovers by the defense. Offense managing to score 20+ without the benefit of multiple short fields would really show me something. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
klos63 Posted October 12, 2018 Share Posted October 12, 2018 1 hour ago, nucci said: A win is something to build on.... a win? oh piss off. 10 minutes ago, Da webster guy said: I agree with him. We aren't winning the superbowl this year, but we DO need to have a major draft next year. And most importantly we need the kid to develop. I'd rather see a 30 point offensive showing and progress with Josh, but lose the game rather than win like we did last week. At home I would say differently, but on the road, it's all about development. Josh has played in like 29 real football games in his life (not counting Juco stuff) He needs to show he can keep his mechanics intact, find where to go with the ball based on coverage, and hit some accurate throws. That's more important than anything- if this kid can be good he's ours for the next 15 years. Remember a higher draft spot impacts all 7 rounds too, not just the first round. I rather win every week even if it's not a perfect game. Maybe if we win more than we lose and by December, Allen is improving enough we may make the playoffs. But i'm sure that would make a lot of people unhappy because we won't draft in the top 5. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nucci Posted October 12, 2018 Share Posted October 12, 2018 48 minutes ago, Da webster guy said: I agree with him. We aren't winning the superbowl this year, but we DO need to have a major draft next year. And most importantly we need the kid to develop. I'd rather see a 30 point offensive showing and progress with Josh, but lose the game rather than win like we did last week. At home I would say differently, but on the road, it's all about development. Josh has played in like 29 real football games in his life (not counting Juco stuff) He needs to show he can keep his mechanics intact, find where to go with the ball based on coverage, and hit some accurate throws. That's more important than anything- if this kid can be good he's ours for the next 15 years. Remember a higher draft spot impacts all 7 rounds too, not just the first round. You would rather finish 4-12 than make the playoffs? You can't justify that with any logical reasoning. I just can't get over the fact that people would rather lose than win. This is just incredible to me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krf139 Posted October 12, 2018 Share Posted October 12, 2018 A loss to get us closer to a top 5 draft pick 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nucci Posted October 12, 2018 Share Posted October 12, 2018 2 minutes ago, krf139 said: A loss to get us closer to a top 5 draft pick Some of you are so used to losing you seem to prefer it. Most fans want their team to win...not here...we prefer cap space and draft picks 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DuckyBoys Posted October 12, 2018 Share Posted October 12, 2018 I prefer to win but above all I want the Bills to get Allen going. Something to build on assuming they will be bringing in new talent with the cap space and all the picks next year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
klos63 Posted October 12, 2018 Share Posted October 12, 2018 25 minutes ago, krf139 said: A loss to get us closer to a top 5 draft pick That really shouldn't be our goal. 14 minutes ago, DuckyBoys said: I prefer to win but above all I want the Bills to get Allen going. Something to build on assuming they will be bringing in new talent with the cap space and all the picks next year. Can we try to accomplish both. How about we win as Allen progresses? 35 minutes ago, nucci said: You would rather finish 4-12 than make the playoffs? You can't justify that with any logical reasoning. I just can't get over the fact that people would rather lose than win. This is just incredible to me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nedboy7 Posted October 12, 2018 Share Posted October 12, 2018 1 hour ago, 416BillsFan said: I think you misunderstood my point. I'd LOVE to be 9-7 or higher and have Allen improve. However, to me Allen getting better is the most important, not winning games with the defense. I trust McD will be able to coach a good defense. I want to see what we have with Allen. As long as he's healthy, play him. I don't care if Derek Anderson gives us a better chance to win. If he doesn't get any better after 2 years draft a QB high again (or sign one). I'm tired of middling seasons, moral victories, and sub-par QB performances. Reasonable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frostbitmic Posted October 12, 2018 Share Posted October 12, 2018 A 3 in the W column ... There are no other victories to claim, a loss is a loss. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nedboy7 Posted October 12, 2018 Share Posted October 12, 2018 41 minutes ago, krf139 said: A loss to get us closer to a top 5 draft pick What jersey you wearing Sunday? Watt? Or watson? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted October 12, 2018 Share Posted October 12, 2018 40 minutes ago, nucci said: Some of you are so used to losing you seem to prefer it. Most fans want their team to win...not here...we prefer cap space and draft picks Meh it's just some here 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nedboy7 Posted October 12, 2018 Share Posted October 12, 2018 (edited) 1 hour ago, Da webster guy said: I agree with him. We aren't winning the superbowl this year, but we DO need to have a major draft next year. And most importantly we need the kid to develop. I'd rather see a 30 point offensive showing and progress with Josh, but lose the game rather than win like we did last week. At home I would say differently, but on the road, it's all about development. Josh has played in like 29 real football games in his life (not counting Juco stuff) He needs to show he can keep his mechanics intact, find where to go with the ball based on coverage, and hit some accurate throws. That's more important than anything- if this kid can be good he's ours for the next 15 years. Remember a higher draft spot impacts all 7 rounds too, not just the first round. So you are rooting against the bills to win. Brilliant. Btw trust me I get your 7 round draft BS. Edited October 12, 2018 by nedboy7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wilton Bills Posted October 12, 2018 Share Posted October 12, 2018 An entertaining win, then switching over to the traditional Sunday Gin and Tonics after drinking ice cold pints watching the game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo03 Posted October 12, 2018 Share Posted October 12, 2018 A win Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColoradoBills Posted October 12, 2018 Share Posted October 12, 2018 JA leading the Bills on a game winning drive to end the game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wppete Posted October 12, 2018 Share Posted October 12, 2018 Aggressive Defense and a Win. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ehfeuh57 Posted October 12, 2018 Share Posted October 12, 2018 If we have 8 total catches by WR's that are down the field we will need good blocking to do this 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zow2 Posted October 12, 2018 Author Share Posted October 12, 2018 1 hour ago, nucci said: You would rather finish 4-12 than make the playoffs? You can't justify that with any logical reasoning. I just can't get over the fact that people would rather lose than win. This is just incredible to me Not sure how old any of the commenters are here...I kinda’ think the whole “it’s better to lose for draft position” mindset are from the younger set (maybe 30 and under). In my view its better to win, as much as possible. Create a winning culture and never accept losing. I mean if a team is worried about not having a high draft pick QB then buy someone else’s QB when they hit free agency, or make a big trade to move up. Wishing your team to lose is weak. It’s not being a fan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
klos63 Posted October 12, 2018 Share Posted October 12, 2018 Just now, zow2 said: Not sure how old any of the commenters are here...I kinda’ think the whole “it’s better to lose for draft position” mindset are from the younger set (maybe 30 and under). In my view its better to win, as much as possible. Create a winning culture and never accept losing. I mean if a team is worried about not having a high draft pick QB then buy someone else’s QB when they hit free agency, or make a big trade to move up. Wishing your team to lose is weak. It’s not being a fan. You'd think that would be a given. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsfanAZ Posted October 12, 2018 Share Posted October 12, 2018 I would be happy with a Win no matter how ugly it is. I will tell you what I dont want to see is the Bills getting blown out because the offense cant do anything. I can accept a close game and the Bills losing.....I wont like it but I can accept it. The Bills looking inept and Allen struggling will be hard to swallow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SinceThe70s Posted October 12, 2018 Share Posted October 12, 2018 3 hours ago, BuffaloBillies said: Nonstop coverage on all football channels discussing how in the world the Patriots are going to manage without Brady the rest of the year. You my friend are a true visionary. Since they aren't playing until 4 hours later, how do you see this going down? Arrest? Practice injury? Slapped by beaver tail? Or maybe deported by ICE in a case of mistaken identity? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nucci Posted October 12, 2018 Share Posted October 12, 2018 47 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: Meh it's just some here I know but I just don't understand Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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