GG Posted October 10, 2018 Share Posted October 10, 2018 10 minutes ago, Doc said: Pretty much. I assume they worked him out and thought he would be passable if put into a game, but they brought him in mostly for mentoring. It depends on the situation. In a scenario where a team has a starter and they draft another QB high to eventually replace him, no, that older QB likely wouldn't want to mentor him. If he does, great, but odds are he won't. In this situation where the Bills drafted a QB high and are playing him and then bring in an older QB, yeah, they're expecting him to mentor Allen. And I agree, Anderson has been in the league for awhile for a reason. But his play isn't really one of them. I don't get why people get hung up on Anderson's playing ability. He wasn't brought in to be a long term QB. It doesn't matter whether the older QB wants to be a mentor or not. Many older QBs are naturally threatened by the youngsters and will want nothing to do with actively helping the kid. But that competitive drive by the veteran will also force him to work and harder to stay in the line up, and that work regimen in itself is a huge benefit to the youngster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted October 10, 2018 Share Posted October 10, 2018 3 minutes ago, GG said: I don't get why people get hung up on Anderson's playing ability. He wasn't brought in to be a long term QB. It doesn't matter whether the older QB wants to be a mentor or not. Many older QBs are naturally threatened by the youngsters and will want nothing to do with actively helping the kid. But that competitive drive by the veteran will also force him to work and harder to stay in the line up, and that work regimen in itself is a huge benefit to the youngster. Sure a "lead by example" can only help. But again, in this specific situation, he was brought in primarily to mentor. At his age he's not anyone's QB of the future and he knows this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted October 10, 2018 Share Posted October 10, 2018 43 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said: See above. McD brought in Anderson because he knows he can't keep Peterman on the bench behind Allen. And Anderson will come in, be the backup QB AND mentor JA. You act as if if you’ve been an NFL QB in multiple locker rooms and have seen backup experienced QBs shun the less experienced starter in every locker room. ONE OF the reasons he was brought in to pass along some of his experiences to JA. He will do that......along with being the backup QB. Which was another reason he was signed. You act as if there’s only one reason a player is signed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GG Posted October 10, 2018 Share Posted October 10, 2018 1 minute ago, Doc said: Sure a "lead by example" can only help. But again, in this specific situation, he was brought in primarily to mentor. At his age he's not anyone's QB of the future and he knows this. In this specific example he was brought in as a mentor AND as a replacement to Peterman. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brianmoorman4jesus Posted October 10, 2018 Share Posted October 10, 2018 If Allen doesn’t get better quick, Anderson will be starting regardless of health Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted October 10, 2018 Share Posted October 10, 2018 41 minutes ago, Doc said: Pretty much. I assume they worked him out and thought he would be passable if put into a game, but they brought him in mostly for mentoring. It depends on the situation. In a scenario where a team has a starter and they draft another QB high to eventually replace him, no, that older QB likely wouldn't want to mentor him. If he does, great, but odds are he won't. In this situation where the Bills drafted a QB high and are playing him and then bring in an older QB, yeah, they're expecting him to mentor Allen. And I agree, Anderson has been in the league for awhile for a reason. But his play isn't really one of them. So, pretty much, if NP was in the league for 3-4 years (for some veteran "seasoning" which is required to mentor) instead of 2, the Bills would have stood pat with him as the backup, despite his proven lack of ability to play QB if Allen was injured? Just now, Brianmoorman4jesus said: If Allen doesn’t get better quick, Anderson will be starting regardless of health No way, it will cut into his mentoring time. They would be just as well off with NP coming in in that scenario, pretty much... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted October 10, 2018 Share Posted October 10, 2018 5 minutes ago, Brianmoorman4jesus said: If Allen doesn’t get better quick, Anderson will be starting regardless of health Shall we care to make a bet on this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted October 10, 2018 Share Posted October 10, 2018 29 minutes ago, GG said: In this specific example he was brought in as a mentor AND as a replacement to Peterman. Of course. No one is going to pay a QB just to be a mentor and not be expected to play if the need arises. 8 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said: So, pretty much, if NP was in the league for 3-4 years (for some veteran "seasoning" which is required to mentor) instead of 2, the Bills would have stood pat with him as the backup, despite his proven lack of ability to play QB if Allen was injured? No, not 3-4 years. That's AJM and they shipped him off. They're looking for someone with more than a decade of experience and someone who has proven not to be looking to be the starter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GG Posted October 10, 2018 Share Posted October 10, 2018 44 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said: So, pretty much, if NP was in the league for 3-4 years (for some veteran "seasoning" which is required to mentor) instead of 2, the Bills would have stood pat with him as the backup, despite his proven lack of ability to play QB if Allen was injured? Talk about the ultimate strawman argument. Bravo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted October 10, 2018 Share Posted October 10, 2018 42 minutes ago, Doc said: Of course. No one is going to pay a QB just to be a mentor and not be expected to play if the need arises. No, not 3-4 years. That's AJM and they shipped him off. They're looking for someone with more than a decade of experience and someone who has proven not to be looking to be the starter. ....LOL Doc....he'll be expected to wear a helmet versus cap & gown.........thinking we were "all set" at QB, dumping AJ for a coveted , envious 5th made no sense, despite the assuredness of "5th round blue chippers" in 2019.....played the last pre-season game with expected ring rust as shown through 3 quarters...but did launch a nice comeback in the 4th...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted October 10, 2018 Share Posted October 10, 2018 Derek Anderson: "I'm Excited About It" (8:36) New QB Derek Anderson talks about joining the team, providing veteran leadership and more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreatComeback Posted October 10, 2018 Share Posted October 10, 2018 (edited) Clayton has shown he doesn’t have a good idea about what’s going on with the Bills. I hope that he’s wrong here... Edited October 10, 2018 by GreatComeback 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bangarang Posted October 10, 2018 Share Posted October 10, 2018 People still take Clayton seriously? 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted October 10, 2018 Share Posted October 10, 2018 ..HILARIOUS.....my instigating "where is the who should start on Sunday poll" is hatched in another thread and quickly shut down........it's a nail biter NOT knowing..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted October 10, 2018 Share Posted October 10, 2018 I didn't know John Clayton was Italian. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreatComeback Posted October 10, 2018 Share Posted October 10, 2018 1 minute ago, 26CornerBlitz said: I didn't know John Clayton was Italian. He isn’t Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KD in CA Posted October 10, 2018 Share Posted October 10, 2018 I didn't know John Clayton was still alive. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JaCrispy Posted October 10, 2018 Share Posted October 10, 2018 (edited) If Anderson gets put in, I’ll have NO reason to watch the rest of the season, and I won’t care one bit...the Bills will have finally pushed me to the brink of my fandom. Edited October 10, 2018 by JaCrispy 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wppete Posted October 10, 2018 Share Posted October 10, 2018 How in the world does John Clayton still have a job as an NFL reporter. He really doesn’t know what the hell he is talking about and knows nothing about the Bills. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted October 10, 2018 Share Posted October 10, 2018 The opnion is being deservedly ridiculed on Social Media for the terrible idea that it is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted October 10, 2018 Share Posted October 10, 2018 3 minutes ago, Bangarang said: People still take Clayton seriously? He’s got a pretty sweet deal in his mom’s basement! 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Like A Mofo Posted October 10, 2018 Share Posted October 10, 2018 Why do I have a feeling this exactly what is going to happen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Red King Posted October 10, 2018 Share Posted October 10, 2018 I think this would be a horrible mistake. I still think there's a chance they'll do this, though. "The Process". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted October 10, 2018 Share Posted October 10, 2018 Just now, JaCrispy said: If Anderson gets put in, I’ll have NO reason to watch the rest of the season, and I won’t care one bit. You can watch the other side of the ball develop. The foundation on D is set Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fadingpain Posted October 10, 2018 Share Posted October 10, 2018 So for all these posters saying John Clayton is wrong, effectively, what will you do when Anderson starts games for the Bills? I firmly believe that time is coming. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreatComeback Posted October 10, 2018 Share Posted October 10, 2018 1 minute ago, 26CornerBlitz said: The opnion is being deservedly ridiculed on Social Media for the terrible idea that it is. I listen to him each week on Schopp and Bulldog. When he talks about the Bills, it’s clear he doesn’t follow the team closely Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted October 10, 2018 Share Posted October 10, 2018 6 minutes ago, Bangarang said: People still take Clayton seriously? Lol. My exact thoughts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stank_Nasty Posted October 10, 2018 Share Posted October 10, 2018 2 minutes ago, Fadingpain said: So for all these posters saying John Clayton is wrong, effectively, what will you do when Anderson starts games for the Bills? I firmly believe that time is coming. of course you do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roundybout Posted October 10, 2018 Share Posted October 10, 2018 4 minutes ago, Fadingpain said: So for all these posters saying John Clayton is wrong, effectively, what will you do when Anderson starts games for the Bills? I firmly believe that time is coming. Nothing because it won't happen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigdaddyinOrlando Posted October 10, 2018 Share Posted October 10, 2018 6 minutes ago, KD in CA said: I didn't know John Clayton was still alive. He isn't! He was pickled ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted October 10, 2018 Share Posted October 10, 2018 3 minutes ago, Fadingpain said: So for all these posters saying John Clayton is wrong, effectively, what will you do when Anderson starts games for the Bills? I firmly believe that time is coming. I don’t. McDermott has to stick with Josh. Josh’s development is more important than expecting an unemployed QB to get back to the playoffs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted October 10, 2018 Share Posted October 10, 2018 8 minutes ago, 26CornerBlitz said: I didn't know John Clayton was Italian. ...not an effin' chance........Uncle Guido would have 'em fitted with a pair of Sakrete size 10's..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victory Formation Posted October 10, 2018 Share Posted October 10, 2018 If that happens, it'll be short lived, Anderson will get crushed, it'll be a Nate Peterman/Tyrod Taylor situation essentially. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsbackto81 Posted October 10, 2018 Share Posted October 10, 2018 2 minutes ago, JaCrispy said: If Anderson gets put in, I’ll have NO reason to watch the rest of the season, and I won’t care one bit...the Bills will have finally pushed me to the brink of my fandom. That's a little extreme. In a perfect world a vet would be starting until Allen is ready. It didn't work that way, so be it. Andy Reid had the right idea with Mahomes and look at the benefits being reaped. Next year Allen will have way more tools to work with and better knowledge on how to run an offense and read defenses. That being said, he's in the water now so swim Josh... Swim!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly the Dog Posted October 10, 2018 Share Posted October 10, 2018 8 minutes ago, KD in CA said: I didn't know John Clayton was still alive. He's not. That w as John Claymation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JaCrispy Posted October 10, 2018 Share Posted October 10, 2018 (edited) 8 minutes ago, NewEra said: You can watch the other side of the ball develop. The foundation on D is set In all honesty, man, I’ve just been losing interest slowly over the last 30 years...they tried the defensive HC, they tried the offensive HC, they tried having the GM pick the HC, they tried having the HC pick the GM...I actually told myself that if the Bills can’t turn it around with this regime, they never will...this QB selection has my whole fandom riding on it...we’ve had great defenses and it’s gotten us nowhere, so without a good QB, I couldn’t care less how the defense develops...it’s been 30 years and I’m hanging by a very thin thread my friend!?? Edited October 10, 2018 by JaCrispy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted October 10, 2018 Share Posted October 10, 2018 Criticizing a typo. SMH. incite not insight Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punching Bag Posted October 10, 2018 Share Posted October 10, 2018 9 minutes ago, GreatComeback said: Clayton has shown he doesn’t have a good idea about what’s going on with the Bills. I hope that he’s wrong here... When was the last time Clayton was asked by a NFL team on their opinion on a player? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teef Posted October 10, 2018 Share Posted October 10, 2018 There’s just no !@#$ing way. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victory Formation Posted October 10, 2018 Share Posted October 10, 2018 1 minute ago, JaCrispy said: In all honesty, man, I’ve just been losing interest slowly over the last 30 years...they tried the defensive HC, they tried the offensive HC, they tried having the GM pick the HC, they tried having the HC pick the GM...I actually told myself that if the Bills can’t turn it around with this regime, they never will...this QB selection has my whole fandom riding on it...we’ve had great defenses and it’s gotten us nowhere, so without a good QB, I couldn’t care less how the defense develops...it’s been 30 years and I’m hanging by a very thin thread my friend! I don't think we'll know right away, with some QBs you just don't know for 3-4 years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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