26CornerBlitz Posted October 1, 2018 Share Posted October 1, 2018 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeterDude Posted October 1, 2018 Share Posted October 1, 2018 They'd be lucky to get a 6th for McCoy and a bag of chips for KB. It might be a bit too late... 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted October 1, 2018 Share Posted October 1, 2018 It is a catch 22 Not gonna get much......except cap space 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RPbillsfan Posted October 1, 2018 Share Posted October 1, 2018 Just now, PeterDude said: They'd be lucky to get a 6th for McCoy and a bag of chips for KB. It might be a bit too late... I disagree, I honestly think we could move McCoy to the Steelers. Benjamin is probably a 6 at best 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Happy Posted October 1, 2018 Share Posted October 1, 2018 KB isn't worth anything. Will probably be a FA after this year that we'll hopefully decline to sign. IMO, trading a player chosen team captain is sending the wrong message to the rest of the team. I think you have to hold onto him. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tisker A Tasker Posted October 1, 2018 Share Posted October 1, 2018 I don't think KB has much value. He's easily the worst #1 receiver the Bills have had since I started following them. I started in the mid 80s. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCBills Posted October 1, 2018 Share Posted October 1, 2018 Might as well evaluate players who will be here next year. ESPECIALLY when our running game looks better with Ivory/Murphy and Kelvin Benjamin is basically Andre Holmes with better name recognition. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Da webster guy Posted October 1, 2018 Share Posted October 1, 2018 If anyone looks at this year's tape on Benjamin and his injury history, they'd pass on the kid for sure. Honestly what does he do better than any other receiver already on your team? Block? Get separation? Hands? React to blitzes by shortening his route and offering a quick target to his qb? He's living off the first two years in the league when he looked like a good draft pick. He looks like a washed up bust now. Shady would have some trade value but we'll be using him more this season or Daboll will be fired. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted October 1, 2018 Share Posted October 1, 2018 Rodak is probably the leading "forward thinker" of this era IMO................ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Call_Of_Ktulu Posted October 1, 2018 Share Posted October 1, 2018 If KB was a FA right now their would need to be a astronomical amount of injurys to occur for another team to pick up this turd. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloRush Posted October 1, 2018 Share Posted October 1, 2018 I explained in another thread why this will never happen. Details are not trading a team captain for a seventh round pick. Only way I can see this happening is if shady asked for a trade. By all indications he seems happy in Buffalo. Also with Kelvin what team is going to give up any significant draft capital to rent a player for the second half of the year? It’s just not going to happen. The little that they get in return doesn’t even make the trade worth it.I explained in another thread why this will never happen. Details are not trading a team captain for a seventh round pick. Only way I can see this happening is if shady asked for a trade. By all indications he seems happy in Buffalo. Also with Calvin what team is going to give up any significant draft capital to rent a player for the second half of the year? It’s just not going to happen. The little that they get in return doesn’t even make the trade worth it. 2 minutes ago, Da webster guy said: If anyone looks at this year's tape on Benjamin and his injury history, they'd pass on the kid for sure. Honestly what does he do better than any other receiver already on your team? Block? Get separation? Hands? React to blitzes by shortening his route and offering a quick target to his qb? He's living off the first two years in the league when he looked like a good draft pick. He looks like a washed up bust now. Shady would have some trade value but we'll be using him more this season or Daboll will be fired. How much do you really think teams are willing to give up for a 30 year old RB with a huge salary? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tbarg12 Posted October 1, 2018 Share Posted October 1, 2018 The Bills aren't really utilizing a run game but so far I have been more impressed with Ivory, just looks to be a better fit with the offense and OL. As far as KB, I have been wanting him gone since the Chargers game. I don't know how many teams would be trying to pursue him after the way he has played so far. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted October 1, 2018 Share Posted October 1, 2018 2 minutes ago, BuffaloRush said: I explained in another thread why this will never happen. Details are not trading a team captain for a seventh round pick. Only way I can see this happening is if shady asked for a trade. By all indications he seems happy in Buffalo. Also with Kelvin what team is going to give up any significant draft capital to rent a player for the second half of the year? It’s just not going to happen. The little that they get in return doesn’t even make the trade worth it.I explained in another thread why this will never happen. Details are not trading a team captain for a seventh round pick. Only way I can see this happening is if shady asked for a trade. By all indications he seems happy in Buffalo. Also with Calvin what team is going to give up any significant draft capital to rent a player for the second half of the year? It’s just not going to happen. The little that they get in return doesn’t even make the trade worth it. How much do you really think teams are willing to give up for a 30 year old RB with a huge salary? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HurlyBurly51 Posted October 1, 2018 Share Posted October 1, 2018 firesale Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Call_Of_Ktulu Posted October 1, 2018 Share Posted October 1, 2018 KB being released makes the Bills a better team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K-9 Posted October 1, 2018 Share Posted October 1, 2018 ESPN should explore trades for Rodak. 2 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted October 1, 2018 Author Share Posted October 1, 2018 5 minutes ago, BuffaloRush said: I explained in another thread why this will never happen. Details are not trading a team captain for a seventh round pick. Only way I can see this happening is if shady asked for a trade. By all indications he seems happy in Buffalo. Also with Kelvin what team is going to give up any significant draft capital to rent a player for the second half of the year? It’s just not going to happen. The little that they get in return doesn’t even make the trade worth it.I explained in another thread why this will never happen. Details are not trading a team captain for a seventh round pick. Only way I can see this happening is if shady asked for a trade. By all indications he seems happy in Buffalo. Also with Calvin what team is going to give up any significant draft capital to rent a player for the second half of the year? It’s just not going to happen. The little that they get in return doesn’t even make the trade worth it. How much do you really think teams are willing to give up for a 30 year old RB with a huge salary? We have 5K reasons to never believe anything you post. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Call_Of_Ktulu Posted October 1, 2018 Share Posted October 1, 2018 If McD wants to keep his friends KB and Castillo he can work with them recycling used condoms at the latex reclamation plant near the Titans stadium. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBillyG Posted October 1, 2018 Share Posted October 1, 2018 There is no doubt in my mind that Beane can find a sucker...uh...team to give up even a 5th or 6th for Benjamin. He has 2 good years, size and other teams can say "Yea, Buffalo doesnt know how to use WRs." Someone would take a chance on him. McCoy in my opinion is a guy that teams may look at as a 1 or 2 year rental himself. Philly was rumored to be sniffing around for a Bell trade, but they had intrest in bringing Shady back last year. I can see them inquiring again this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted October 1, 2018 Share Posted October 1, 2018 25 minutes ago, John from Riverside said: It is a catch 22 Not gonna get much......except cap space I doubt even that John. Re-tweeting re-posting Roadhacks garbage - and I mean garbage. Of all that went wrong and what went good he comes up with that lame "hot take" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sleeby Posted October 1, 2018 Share Posted October 1, 2018 24 minutes ago, Happy Gilmore said: KB isn't worth anything. Will probably be a FA after this year that we'll hopefully decline to sign. IMO, trading a player chosen team captain is sending the wrong message to the rest of the team. I think you have to hold onto him. As far as his performance this season goes, we've seen time and again that the nation does not watch bills games and generally just go with the talking points. We know what he is but I bet there's a team out there not in the know and will assume he could be an addition. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Posted October 1, 2018 Share Posted October 1, 2018 1 minute ago, sleeby said: As far as his performance this season goes, we've seen time and again that the nation does not watch bills games and generally just go with the talking points. We know what he is but I bet there's a team out there not in the know and will assume he could be an addition. I completely agree that the national media knows little to nothing about the Bills. But I disagree with this regarding the other 31 teams. Each team has a pro personnel department, whose job it is to scout other teams and know their players, especially FAs and those likely on the trade block. They're not relying on the national media for this. I'd bet that they know exactly who and what KB is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsSbSoon Posted October 1, 2018 Share Posted October 1, 2018 If beane can get anything for either one, i dont think he would care. We traded dareus for a 5th. Hes prolly itching to get that 7th back we gave up for coleman. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleeding Bills Blue Posted October 1, 2018 Share Posted October 1, 2018 If you could get something for benjamin sure. He just doesn't seem like a very good football player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted October 1, 2018 Share Posted October 1, 2018 Not sure why anyone would trade for KB. He’s just terrible at playing WR. I hope we trade ahady so he so he can get what he wants. To be in the HoF. Another year in Buffalo could keep him out Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
papazoid Posted October 1, 2018 Share Posted October 1, 2018 nobody is trading for shady and his $9 mil cap hit. this is his last year with the team. he will be cut after this season with 1 yr remaining on his contract. nobody is trading for KB unless we include draft picks with less coming back. he will not be resigned by the bills next season as a free agent in the meantime, both need more targets Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billsflyer12 Posted October 1, 2018 Share Posted October 1, 2018 51 minutes ago, John from Riverside said: It is a catch 22 Not gonna get much......except cap space McBeane are really good at trading players for a almost nothing to free up cap space. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted October 1, 2018 Share Posted October 1, 2018 1 minute ago, Billsflyer12 said: McBeane are really good at trading players for a almost nothing to free up cap space. That has been part of the plan Its called rebiulding....which is what we are doing 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atlbillsfan1975 Posted October 1, 2018 Share Posted October 1, 2018 They need to get one big game from McCoy and then trade him. I still think you could get a third for McCoy from a team in contention needing a RB. If anyone have the Bills a 7th with it maybe moving to a 6th for Benjamin I would jump on it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billykay Posted October 1, 2018 Share Posted October 1, 2018 38 minutes ago, No Place To Hyde said: There is no doubt in my mind that Beane can find a sucker...uh...team to give up even a 5th or 6th for Benjamin. He has 2 good years, size and other teams can say "Yea, Buffalo doesnt know how to use WRs." Someone would take a chance on him. McCoy in my opinion is a guy that teams may look at as a 1 or 2 year rental himself. Philly was rumored to be sniffing around for a Bell trade, but they had intrest in bringing Shady back last year. I can see them inquiring again this year. The Jets ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjd1001 Posted October 1, 2018 Share Posted October 1, 2018 55 minutes ago, Happy Gilmore said: KB isn't worth anything. Will probably be a FA after this year that we'll hopefully decline to sign. IMO, trading a player chosen team captain is sending the wrong message to the rest of the team. I think you have to hold onto him. At this point you might be doing McCoy a favor he would want. Does he like Buffalo and his teammates? It does appear so. But if you gave him an opportunity to trade him to a team in the playoff race, I think he would go for it and appreciate the Bills for doing it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fadingpain Posted October 1, 2018 Share Posted October 1, 2018 Surprise trades and surprise compensation for players in trades happens all the time. Maybe we could get something for Shady with the right team. No one in this thread is calling up GMs around the league and feeling out the situation. If Beane can get something of value for Shady, do it! Shady won't be back here next year anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LABILLBACKER Posted October 1, 2018 Share Posted October 1, 2018 1 hour ago, RPbillsfan said: I disagree, I honestly think we could move McCoy to the Steelers. Benjamin is probably a 6 at best I think maybe a 4th for McCoy and no more than a 6th for KB. Benjamin has basically committed career suicide. Other teams see this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Like A Mofo Posted October 1, 2018 Share Posted October 1, 2018 56 minutes ago, K-9 said: ESPN should explore trades for Rodak. Agree, Rodak is a happy camper today. His beloved Pats with a huge win. Tom is back. Buffalo had a bad game. His usual talking points work again. Makes his job easier. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Misterbluesky Posted October 1, 2018 Share Posted October 1, 2018 1 hour ago, Call_Of_Ktulu said: KB being released makes the Bills a better team. When he was out yesterday,McD had Foster,Holmes and Jones on the field.Not one of those three belong on a NFL roster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billspro Posted October 1, 2018 Share Posted October 1, 2018 1 hour ago, Happy Gilmore said: KB isn't worth anything. Will probably be a FA after this year that we'll hopefully decline to sign. IMO, trading a player chosen team captain is sending the wrong message to the rest of the team. I think you have to hold onto him. I don’t think any team is signing KB this offseason 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobChalmers Posted October 1, 2018 Share Posted October 1, 2018 (edited) 1 hour ago, SCBills said: Might as well evaluate players who will be here next year. ESPECIALLY when our running game looks better with Ivory/Murphy and Kelvin Benjamin is basically Andre Holmes with better name recognition. That's an insult to Andre Holmes - Holmes is much faster than KB and acts like he is at least trying to catch contested balls. Edited October 1, 2018 by BobChalmers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeterDude Posted October 1, 2018 Share Posted October 1, 2018 1 hour ago, RPbillsfan said: I disagree, I honestly think we could move McCoy to the Steelers. Benjamin is probably a 6 at best I think it's one year too late for McCoy to have much value. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canadian Bills Fan Posted October 1, 2018 Share Posted October 1, 2018 I would love to get the cap space. How much dead money would there be if we traded McCoy? (If any) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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